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Obama's Surrogate Connection to the Keating Five
One of Senator Obama's surrogates, Sen. John Glenn was apart of the Keating Five as well. Like Senator McCain he was cleared by the Senate Ethics Committee. I was listing to the Neal Boortz Show and he read from parts of a New York Times article dated September 30, 1999, that showed some people were raising the alarm then.
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I really don't like both candidates but Palin worries me and that's what's made my mind up really. I can't believe something like that is what won me over, it's sad really.
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He makes a good point. Most youth have dmeocratic views, and that's to be expected. They are usually naive to the workings of the world outside their own. No, I won't mince words, or try to sound nice over teh intarwebs. Youth of today -including me- are somewhat ignorant of how the world actually work, no matter how many figures we can find, or how smart we think we are.
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After watching the debate, I have to say it failed to meet my expectations of a town hall format debate. As I suspected, most of the questions were on the economy but it seams that both sides were able to reiterate their campaign talking points. I was hoping for other questions besides the economy and health care like gun control and immigration. In my opinion the first debate was better then the second.
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I agree with red, most of it was just campaign rhetoric and "he voted for this and I didn't". I was left feeling very dissatisfied. There was a lot of dancing around the questions and not a lot of real debate.
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Overhead projectors are killing our economy!
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With the financial crisis, both parties are responsible. The 40-year loan nonsense started with Clinton, Bush should've put a stop to that during his presidency. Six years ago the Republicans said we have a problem here, we should do something. Democrats said nah. Now we have an $80 billion bailout with to pay for parties of those responsible. Way to go both parties. The amount of spin is incredible. Both parties have the same view on gay marriage, but the Democrats make it out that Republicans want them destroyed. So, even if it's untrue - your options as a youth are the supposed perfect party or support the devil. No one actually bothers to look into anything or view the platform and actually be informed. |
I *kinda* meant both the democratic & the youth are out of the loop, but you explained it much better, especially since I had to re-read it twice =D.
I think I may be democratic, I haven't decided. But no matter what the party, it is far too important to look outside the ass or the trunk, and do original reasearch. The youth of today has far too much time on their hands, thinking they can understand everything about the world through the news & the internets. And 97% of the internets is porn, so there that goes. And don't get me started on those liberal youths. Rebublican youth actually annoy me more. I just hate young people >=[ |
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Sorry for not being able to give opinions for 2 days, but HS comes first before PC. I would have a much better reply than this but it was accidentally deleted earlier....
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I know it's necessary for the improvement of the supply. But it's just too morally questionable to put profits first. Also didn't Congress already pass that offshore oil-drilling Act? Yes, we need to become Energy Independent but how are we going to learn how to live without oil if we keep on looking for ways to get it? Quote:
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The extremists kill me, honestly, and I don't mean to be biased but a lot of the people I know who are liberal are the ones who bite your head off when it comes to expressing their views and that to me is just stupid. There's nothing wrong with trying to get things across and expressing your viewpoints/beliefs in an honest, clean fashion instead of screaming so the whole cafeteria/restaurant/store/etc. can hear you say "ARE YOU SERIOUS!?! OMG *RANTS ABOUT HOW WRONG SAID PERSON THEY'RE TALKING TO IS*" I don't mind if people are excited or really positive about what they think, but there's definitely a line that must be drawn. Politics is a lot, but it's not life (well..alright, so it determines a hell of a lot, but you get the picture :P). |
Normally, I'd just vote for a Democratic president anyway, but I have another reason not to vote for McCain. I mean, that would mean, putting Sarah Palin in office, and... um... no thanks. She waffles any question she can't answer and replies by saying how much she's done for Alaska. My advice? She can freeze her ass off in Alaska. No reason to make someone like that VP.
If someone thought she was being courageous for being a woman running for high office, been there, done that. Biden, on the other hand, usually answers the questions he gets, and is a much better VP choice. Now, about the actual presidents, either one would be fine for me... but I just can't deal with Palin. |
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Also, I never said that I was any difference, I was correctly noting on something I have seen. To say that I feel I am better is very,very immature thinking. Bad enough you mistook my words, but I figured the young would. This is just what I mean about the youth. Almost all youth finds the government corrupt, yet can only reason with wild theories. And anyone that is rich is fatcats. EDIT:Wait, I even included myself with my summaries of the youth in politics. So where are you getting this from? |
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As much as I like having the ability to vote the moment I turn eighteen, it's painfully obvious the majority of my peers don't use this right to their advantage. I've studied the issues, I've weighed the sides which is ten times more than the average student at my school (thankfully, though, this being such an important election, most of my friends, classmates and neighbors have really gotten into things and are taking sides/learning/etc. which I think is a good start.) In the end, however, I still feel as if an overwhelming percentage of the issues cannot possibly be grasped by my brain nor that of anyone who is eighteen years of age in these United States because we just. haven't. been. there. period. To top it all off, things are never going to just hit you upside the head like a bag of bricks and suddenly you're an expert on politics, big business, the economy as a whole, global everything, etc. It's a gradual process and a lot of such things can be difficult to start learning, let alone master by age twenty. |
Bill Clinton coming back to finish what he started through other people?
I'm surprised he's still alive. Not for long >;D! |
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BTW, democrats FTW. I said it. |
if i could, i would possibly vote for Barack Obama because i think he can make a big difference. i think he would do extremely well as President.
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Oh, I meant that. I hate everyone younger. Hence my high school nickname, "Grampa". Even in college, I've been called bitter like an old man. Always with their Myspace, and their hippity-hop music, and their MP3s & 123s.
That said, this has been a pretty pissy election thus far. |
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Ok I am restating and retracting my former comments since now I could see our misunderstanding. Also I was just making spontanious comments since I barely had the time to comment and was just skimming through the replies. Not I have 30 Minutes to clear this up. New Comments in Bold.
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But us Youth still have uncrushed ideals and while we still have it we must use our power of protest to get people to listen. Quote:
Your right the age gap and technological difference can make things look different. But please understand that the Youth are people too. They just want to take things slow before we start worrying about the problems of "real" life. While we still have the free time to pay attention to Global affairs, we must use it for the betterment of Society. Because once you get older their is just so many domestic problems for you to have the time to do real reaserch on how Global Things work. Please dont hate the youth. Please understand our positions. I just didn't have the "free time" that you were talking about. High School comes first. Why do I even bother to go to school if I didn't want to learn how the world works. Also again, I apologize. What do you mean "Pissy" election? :D |
Those are all youthful opinions, that will change with age. I'm not reading all that, far too much >=[. But as we said, those opinions won't nearly be the same when you go out there. Adults may not hhave all the answers,but they damn sure know more than the young. & I don't mean those special, "out of the loop" adults, I mean real working, striving adults, having to support a family or just themselves, those that own businesses & those whose job depends on this stock crash, or the nex pres. As I said, I never mentioned that the young only "watches the carnage", and I don't really feel like mentioning it again, but I will. We can keep ourselves informed, but it will never match experience. And as I keep saying, over 9000 tyemz, we can still have a voice, but their is a reason the young cannot vote. We can try our best to get the message across, however, I never disputed that. Well, yaw'll can try. I can vote. Burn. Epic burn. (Although I said it 9001 teimz, I never made it this clear. Didn't think I'd have too)
I always hear how "corrupt" politicians are, yet I never get a clear reasoning as to why. It usually comes from those that are in high school. It is never that black & white. Do we see the world as grey, or do we only see what we can watch on the news? Those domestic problems are what shape America, and is what makes the average American voter's (foriegn or otherwise) opinion. No harm done. |
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Want to talk about corruption? "Why do we still don't have Universal Healthcare?" when every other "Modern" Western Country does. The problem is were talking about a huge amount of money. But we have the the money (Medicare, Medicaid), so people hold back. What about those pork barrel spending John McCain keeps talking about, what about those last-minute add-ons to Apropriations Bills. Hay...So how are politicians not corrupt? It's part of human nature. I'm just tired now. -_- Letz be friendz ^_^ and talk about Pocket Monsters... |
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So don't repeat it yourself. All you are doing is repeating everything I say, only in a simplier way. I won't go all multi quoting, as i laxz teh knowledge. We are in a national debt. Been so for a while. I won't go into detail, as I don't have em' all at the time. We do not have the money. Hell, there was just a huge Wall Street backlash, affecting everyone in the US, trader or not. The 7 billion (million?) dollar bail out failed, as we just don't have the funds for it. We do not have the money. I'm not saying politics isn't corrupt, and that everything is peachy keen, but at the same time, things are not a simple as you think. It cannot just be chalked down to just "they're corrupted, and are doing it for teh cash". You're just proving what I mean. I keep sayin gthis, while taking on your points, but it doesn't get through exactly, and it ends up with you nearly repeating everything. Ironically, the elder members got what I meant perfectly. |
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