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My intention is to make a server preserving pre-Platinum gameplay. >=O If only just 'cause I don't really want to deal with the changes, and there appear to be a number of people who share that view. =P Blegh, Trick Gengar, blegh.
Anyhow, since Scizor is making it hard on things for offensive teams in the Platinum game, I've got the idea of packing Rotom on my Platinum offensive team. The thing's pretty much a perfect counter to dual-priority Scizor... or that's what I'm thinking. -SD -Quick Attack -Bullet Punch -Roost/Brick Break. Supposedly. Since the new Rotom's pretty much Spiritomb with more sweeperly stats, it should be cool. :D Toaster forme will be the awesomest-ever way to deal with Scizor. |
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Presumably to try and catch switch-ins like Registeel unawares and switch off to something that can better deal, while sapping HP (which most of them can't really recover all that well)... as shedinjask said in the post you just quoted. ._. Psychic's mainly just a huge filler, anyways.
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He's right. Status moves are usually just to take up space and it's still damned useful. Roserade does it well.
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Cool we can have a wannabe togekiss shaymin =p
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i'd like to point out that outrage on gyarados , while seemingly pointless, is quite promising. water + dragon covers everything but empoleon, but if you run LOdd gyara w/ EQ, you're hitting everything with a good amount of coverage, including dragons. ice fang does more damage to quad weaks but not when they're running yache berry. only downside is that once they've figured out you have outrage, it doesn't take much for forretress to explode in your face or skarmory to blow it away, and hell, heatran might be able to get away with surviving + retaliating w/ hp electric.
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That's the thing. Sure, it opens up coverage, but it laacks any real power. Stone Edge & Waterfall has great coverage. Earthquake & Ice Fang has great coverage. Hell, water alone has great coverage. So, I don't see a point in Outrage, which locks you into a moove you can't break out of, and allowing steels to set up.
Still, can't knock it if you didn't try it, so... |
i'm kinda disappointed they didn't give more NU/UU pokes trick. those tiers are really reliant on items and status. shaking the tiers up a bit wouldn't hurt.
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Outrage on Gyarados would suck. Too much of a set up fodder, and loses STAB, which hurts.
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Hmm, soon the debate will start on moving Sky Forme Shaymin to Ubers. Everyone knows it's coming. If it wasn't so weak to ice then Seed Flare, Air Slash and Serene Grace wouldn't be scared of too much.
I'm going to take a Stab at Rotom assuming some stuff since I'm probabley one of the most frequent users of him anyways. <3 Toaster [email protected] Scarf Levitate-Modest 252 Sp.Atk/248 Spd/8 HP ~Thunderbolt ~Overheat/Fire move ~Shadow Ball ~HP Ice That's assuming he can still learn Thunderbolt, if not then Reflect, or set up and switch moves work. He was an underrated lead for me when I used him before, I'm sure he can still pull it off. I always found this more effective then the status version Though those EV's give him 406 or 405 speed, (wasn't able to check.) Speed could be lowered to 395. Looks like fun for me, even if know one else is intimidated bye a Toaster. Here's hoping he's a Fire/Ghost type, though I guess Ghost/Electric give him less weaknesses. |
Then it would be a late game sweeper, when you know of steels and get them out of the way.
And for the fun of it Rotom freezer:@ choice scarf Modest 252 spatt, 252 spd, 6 def -Blizzard/ Ice beam (if it gets it, which I'm sure of) -Thunderbolt (I think it will have it) -Trick -Hp Ground This thing has stab ice beam, access to boltbeam, and has good spatt and defences. |
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I can't wait for Platinum moves to get posted on Shoddy. Abuse Ubers with Chompy and Giratina. I rlly think that some rotom forms should move up a tier(I forgot wat tier they r in) due to movesets. Freezer Rotom is gonna pwn on Hail teams w/ Blizzard and T-Wave and such. I posted a Blizzard set on the first page somewhere. Some of the new moves pokes are getting is weird though. Srsly, name a reason why Crobat should have Heat Wave. I rlly think that theses r just test runs, and some of the controversial moves are false, like Heat Wave Crobat. |
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Hardcorerock, how does it cover everything? It doesn't hit empoleon, starmie, and other pure waters?
And mobile tsk, it is useful. It drains away 12% of hp and restores your own. Not to mention it forces switches usually. |
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Maggy said it best. Utility moves on Choiced pokes are a great way for over all scouting, and hampering counters.
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wtf...Zapdos and Crobat learn Heat Wave, Donphan gets Seed Bomb, Gyarados gets Outrage. THEY HAVE COMPLETELY RETARDED THE METAGAME.
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Crobat has Heat Wave. Prepare for Crobat to become Uber. I'm bringing it back baby!
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Zapdos and crobat have heat wave because of it's smelly farts. =X
Anyways, where do you guys find this info? |
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