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Goldeneyes September 16th, 2008 12:01 AM

Bibarel for Uber!
 
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Deoxys-e @ Expert Belt
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 160 Atk/96 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spe, -SpD)
- Superpower
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
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Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SpA)
- Close Combat
- Swords Dance
- Extremespeed

- Crunch
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Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def/40 Hp/216 SDef
Calm nature (+SpD, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy

- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled
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Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Surf
- Roar
- Hidden Power [Electric]
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Gliscor (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SpA)
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Roost
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Tangrowth (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Leaf Guard
EVs: 252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SpA)
- Knock Off
- Sleep Powder
- Leech Seed

- Power Whip
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I think I need a spinner and I was going to replace Tangrowth with Forretress but I can't decide wheteher to or not.

Darkness_Dreams September 16th, 2008 12:36 PM

Deoxys-e: I would pick Grass knot over Superpower
Lucario: try etreme speed/ bullet punch / Swords dance / close combat and stash ?
Blissey: fine....IMO I would put ice beam somewhere in there else dusk laughs at you :S
Vap: Twas upseting to to see sub in there =( its 100HP subs + Wish PWN
Gliscor: Fine
Tangrowth: If you CAN Morning Sun > Rest...but MEH

And BTW Forry > Growth IMO =]

Hope this helped =]

. September 16th, 2008 2:30 PM

Grass Knot > Superpower is a big no no. Superpower lets you NOT be walled by Tyranitar, Blissey, Snorlax, Metagross, etc...

Skip Shot September 16th, 2008 8:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldeneyes (Post 3943455)
http://veekun.com/dex-images/dp/386-speed.png
Deoxys-e @ Expert Belt
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 160 Atk/96 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spe, -SpD)
- Grass Knot Superpower
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam

The Atk EVs aren't needed for a deoxys w/o superpower. However,Superpower is needed, as it kills off Bliss, who else horribly walls you.
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Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SpA)
- Close Combat
- Swords Dance
- Extremespeed

- Crunch

Standard
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Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def/40 Hp/216 SDef
Calm nature (+SpD, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy

- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled
Again, standard.
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Vaporeon (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/68 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Wish
- Surf
- Roar
- Hidden Power [Electric]
Agh too many standards
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Gliscor (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SpA)
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Roost
Consider Stealth Rock over Knock Off for support. Otherwise, standard yet again.
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Tangrowth (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Leaf Guard
EVs: 252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SpA)
- Rest Knock Off
- Sleep Powder
- Leech Seed

- Power Whip
Eww, Rest w/o Sleep Talk is asking for opponents to set up. Knock off>> Rest.
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I think I need a spinner and I was going to replace Tangrowth with Forretress but I can't decide wheteher to or not.

Comments in bold.

You don't really need a spinner, considering Luke is the only character to take damage from Spikes.

This team has a grudge against Gyarados, but apart from that, I don't see a glaring weakness.

Archer September 16th, 2008 9:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardc0rerock (Post 3945521)
Comments in bold.

You don't really need a spinner, considering Luke is the only character to take damage from Spikes.

This team has a grudge against Gyarados, but apart from that, I don't see a glaring weakness.

Lol, Grudge against Gyara? Tangrowth is an Awesome Gyara counter. DD Ice Fang is like a 4HKO.

Edit: I don't like Deoxys as a lead. It is shut down when they have a counter, so it's best to bait that out first.

. September 17th, 2008 3:36 AM

Tangrowth was a decent counter for the BulkyGyara set, however, the LO Gyara is much more fearsome.

1 DD Gyara's Ice Fang (w/ LO) vs. Max HP/Max Def Tangrowth (+ Nature) = 44.55%-52.97%

With Stealth Rock, that's a guaranteed 2HKO

Ársa September 17th, 2008 3:42 AM

That Deoxys wants to change or it's removed plox.

[email protected] Clay
Hasty
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

Stealth Rock
Taunt
Recover
Reflect/Light Screen

oh, and that title is win. =)

Sora_8920 September 17th, 2008 3:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortured_Soul (Post 3945905)
That Deoxys wants to change or it's removed plox.

[email protected] Clay
Hasty
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe

Stealth Rock
Taunt
Recover
Reflect/Light Screen

oh, and that title is win. =)

Agreed.

But yeah, no need to change Tangrowth for Forry if you have Gliscor on your team as they have pretty much the same purpose.

Relaxed >> Impish and HP Ice can be considered on Tangrowth as it's pretty cool.

Something >> SR on Gliswhorecor could do better unless this is a stall team.

Goldeneyes September 19th, 2008 10:01 PM

I was tired when I made the team.
I can't believe I put Rest on Tangrowth.

Renyui! September 19th, 2008 11:33 PM

Well, i'm not much a rater, but here goes. Please comment on my profile If I am pathetic.

Deoxys seems a little cheap, no? And Superpower could be replaced.... Dunno, but maybe grass knot? (like the other guy suggested)
Lucario looks good, it seems his attack is his main thing. Sword dance works, and, well, in my opinion, Nice team altogether.

genesis42 September 19th, 2008 11:56 PM

This thing can seriously hurt your team

Gengar @ Life Orb/Choice Scarf
Levitate
Timid/Modest - 252 Sp .Atk, 252 Spd, 6 Hp
~ Shadow Ball
~ Focus Blast
~ Thunderbolt
~ HP (Ice)

Sora_8920 September 20th, 2008 2:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diamond mew (Post 3953765)
glicor is a urber !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>____< How is Gliscor an Uber? It's OU. Definitely not Uber.


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