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Ársa September 21st, 2008 8:34 PM

UU Rain Dance - Platinum Edition
 
Introduction:

Well, I've been out of battling for awhile, so I decided to come back in via the UU metagame, of which I've done horribly in the past. Please keep in mind I WILL be using Platinum moves, so Outrage Kingdra is legitimate.

Over-View:

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http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/electrode.png
[email protected] Rock
Hasty
252 Atk / 28 SpA / 228 Spe
Static

Rain Dance
Thunder
Explosion
Taunt

Standard Electrode Lead
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http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/kingdra.png
[email protected] Orb
Lonely
168 Atk / 68 Def / 252 SpA / 20 Spe
Swift Swim

Dragon Dance
Outrage
Hydro Pump
Hidden Power Electric

Kingdra got Outrage in Platinum, meaning this set IS POSSIBLE. As such, you may wonder why I'm running Swift Swim+Dragon Dance. The extra speed never hurt anybody did it?

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http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/aerodactyl.png
[email protected] Scarf
Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe

Stone Edge
Ice Fang/Stealth Rock
Aqua Tail
Earthquake

Yeah, Aqua Tail Aerodactyl plox. In the rain it's a weapon, and I intend to abuse it. Choice Scarf is unexpected on something as fast as Aero, but it does have its merrits. I no longer need to run any speed, as Adamant Choice Scarf outspeeds Jolly/252 Aerodactyl easily.
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http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/bibarel.png
[email protected] Berry
Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Simple

Substitute
Curse
Waterfall
Return

Curse Bibarel is gonna pwn your metagamez! Seriously, after Liechi activates +4 Atk / +2 Def after 1 curse is scary. Couple that with powerful STAB moves and an increase in the rain, and Bibarel is a viable physical sweeper if I ever saw one.
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http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/clefable.png
[email protected] Orb
Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Magic Guard

Trick
Facade
Meteor Mash
Protect

Clefable got Trick in Platinum, along with every other second pokemon. However, Clefable comes with an added bonus, the Toxic Orb damage doesn't take effect due to Magic Guard. We know what this means people! Trick Toxic Orb to a pesky wall such as Hypno/Grumpig/Sandslash and watch their health wittle down while Protecting and firing away STAB Facade. Nice.
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http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/hypno.png
[email protected]
Calm
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Insomnia

Wish
Rain Dance
Seismic Toss
Reflect

Standard Hypno. Provides sleep resists and Wish support, as well as Reflect. Also my second Rain Dancer.
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*Note: At time of posting, I didn't know Kingdra was BL. (Don't asky me why, I must have had a brain fade) So yeah...can we consider it UU? XD

UUUser September 21st, 2008 11:48 PM

IMO,
[email protected] Orb
Lonely
252 SpAtk/168 Atk/88 Spe
Swift Swim

Ice Beam
Outrage
Hydro Pump
Hidden Power Electric

Kingdra is too overpowered for UU >_>. He's BL.

[email protected] Orb
Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Magic Guard

Trick
Facade
Meteor Mash
Softboiled

Softboiled over Protect

Swap Aerodactyl with Rotom/Surfing Pikachu

[email protected] Ball
Hardy
252 SpAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Static

Thunder
Surf
Grass Knot
Hidden Power Ice

Zetta-Chan September 22nd, 2008 3:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UUUser (Post 3962150)
IMO,
[email protected] Orb
Lonely
252 SpAtk/168 Atk/88 Spe
Swift Swim

Ice Beam
Outrage
Hydro Pump
Hidden Power Electric

Kingdra is too overpowered for UU >_>. He's BL.

[email protected] Orb
Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Magic Guard

Trick
Facade
Meteor Mash
Softboiled

Softboiled over Protect

Swap Aerodactyl with Rotom/Surfing Pikachu

[email protected] Ball
Hardy
252 SpAtk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
Static

Thunder
Surf
Grass Knot
Hidden Power Ice

Clefable can keep protect, it helps her scout out what the opponnent is doing, and activates Toxic Orb without damage.

Syaoran September 22nd, 2008 3:24 AM

Isn't Kingdra BL...

Softboild > Protect on that Clefable, since it's not leading and is meant to come on something that poses no threat to it.

Kabutops still outspeeds your entire team after a Rain Dance, so I'm not sure it's that wise to set it up without having a solid counter to it.

Archer September 22nd, 2008 5:18 AM

Maybe if you throw in Quagsire to help you avoid having Rain turned on you. Wall set, I guess...

Dark Azelf September 22nd, 2008 7:38 AM

Yeah,whilst Kingdra with Outrage is now possible, Kingdra in UU will NEVER happen lol.

Ive never found Reflect at all useful on Hypno tbh, I much prefer Light Screen as it started loosing to stuff Like Gorebyss in the Rain. (Who you are Kinda weak to). Venusaur hurts you badly too (But thats a given for pretty much any UU team anyway XD). So Yeah Light Screen would help in that aspect with most the aforementioned.

As well as aforementioned Kabutops, who is an ass regardless. Possibly Toxicroak or Quasire would go along way here i feel....They also help with Qwilfish =p.

boo836 September 22nd, 2008 12:09 PM

Due to the fact that Kingdra is BL, you can just replace it. Since this is a rain dance team, prehaps Kyogre lol washertom?

Washertom: @ choice scarf/ Choice specs
Timid/ Modest nature
252 spatt, 252 spd, 6 hp
-Hydro pump
-Thunder
-Hp [Fighting]
-Shadow ball

Since ghost and fighting cover everything for neutral, they would work, especially with ghost stab to break down UU's psychic walls. SInce tis is a rain dance team, Thunder has 100% accuracy and boosts hydro pump.

Take your pick at item and nature.

Sora_8920 September 22nd, 2008 12:46 PM

Washertom? Did I miss anything something in Plat, or is that a nick?

Azonic September 22nd, 2008 12:56 PM

Rotom in the Dishwasher form, dear. :3

Gorebyss / Omastar are nice replacement Swift Swimmers for Kingdra. Gorebyss has a decent Special Attack stat and also a good Defense stat, which people usually wouldn't expect. Omastar has a higher Special Attack stat by 11 points, but has a denting x4 grass weakness AND a ground weakness. Blegh, I'd use Gorebyss > Omastar though. Anyways, if you are in need of a replacement for Kingdra, definitely consider Gorebyss. It looks like you're trying to run a physical sweeper, though. Toxicroak works, and it can counter those pesky Psychic type walls that think they can wall you.

Supreme Dirt September 22nd, 2008 2:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortured_Soul (Post 3962050)
Introduction:

Well, I've been out of battling for awhile, so I decided to come back in via the UU metagame, of which I've done horribly in the past. Please keep in mind I WILL be using Platinum moves, so Outrage Kingdra is legitimate.

Over-View:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa101.pnghttp://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa230.pnghttp://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa142.pnghttp://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa400.pnghttp://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa036.pnghttp://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa097.png

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http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/electrode.png
[email protected] Rock
Hasty
252 Atk / 28 SpA / 228 Spe
Static

Rain Dance
Thunder
Explosion
Taunt

Standard Electrode Lead

A bit too standard for my liking, but w/e.
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http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/kingdra.png
[email protected] Orb
Lonely
168 Atk / 68 Def / 252 SpA / 20 Spe
Swift Swim

Dragon Dance
Outrage
Hydro Pump
Hidden Power Electric

Kingdra got Outrage in Platinum, meaning this set IS POSSIBLE. As such, you may wonder why I'm running Swift Swim+Dragon Dance. The extra speed never hurt anybody did it?

Go for that washertom mentioned in a previous post.

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/aerodactyl.png
[email protected] Scarf
Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe

Stone Edge
Ice Fang/Stealth Rock
Aqua Tail
Earthquake

Yeah, Aqua Tail Aerodactyl plox. In the rain it's a weapon, and I intend to abuse it. Choice Scarf is unexpected on something as fast as Aero, but it does have its merrits. I no longer need to run any speed, as Adamant Choice Scarf outspeeds Jolly/252 Aerodactyl easily.

Aerodactyl is beast now. I would probably go for band, but Scarf is fine. Go for Ice Fang imo, seeing as you have a Venusaur weak. :D
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http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/bibarel.png
[email protected] Berry
Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Simple

Substitute
Curse
Waterfall
Return

Curse Bibarel is gonna pwn your metagamez! Seriously, after Liechi activates +4 Atk / +2 Def after 1 curse is scary. Couple that with powerful STAB moves and an increase in the rain, and Bibarel is a viable physical sweeper if I ever saw one.

Venusaur would tear through this with Seed Bomb after a Swords Dance, or with Energy Ball, but Substitute should prevent it. Bibarel is just plain strong. No complaints.
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http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/clefable.png
[email protected] Orb
Adamant
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
Magic Guard

Trick
Facade
Meteor Mash
Protect

Clefable got Trick in Platinum, along with every other second pokemon. However, Clefable comes with an added bonus, the Toxic Orb damage doesn't take effect due to Magic Guard. We know what this means people! Trick Toxic Orb to a pesky wall such as Hypno/Grumpig/Sandslash and watch their health wittle down while Protecting and firing away STAB Facade. Nice.

Venusaur laughs at this. Cursasaur will curse once or twice and then Outrage/Seed Bomb you to death. Add Synthesis into the mix, and gg, though the Rain could give saur difficulties.

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/hypno.png
[email protected]
Calm
252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Insomnia

Wish
Rain Dance
Seismic Toss
Reflect

Standard Hypno. Provides sleep resists and Wish support, as well as Reflect. Also my second Rain Dancer.

And torn apart by saur. OK, not really. Pretty good set.
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*Note: At time of posting, I didn't know Kingdra was BL. (Don't asky me why, I must have had a brain fade) So yeah...can we consider it UU? XD

Comments are in bold above.

boo836 September 24th, 2008 12:07 PM

If T_S wants to go toxicroak, then he should be running NP sweeper toxicroak, as he has othing that hits on the special side except for.... Electrode. ._.

And washertom does not have to wait a turn to set up, and can fire off STAB Thunder with 100% accuracy in the rain, gets boosted hydro pump, has STAB shadow ball and can use fighting coverage. And washertom has base 105 in both defences and has only 5 less hp than gorebyss.


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