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Swampert 22 September 27th, 2008 11:01 AM

The reason for the Pokémon seeming different from the 3rd generation onwards is because Pokémon 1-251 were designed by Ken Sugimori by himself. After Gold/Silver more people joined in which makes sense for the 'change' in monster design.

When you're used to old Pokémon, new ones are always going to look a bit dodgy, you just have to get used to them!:)

.:Kanto:. September 27th, 2008 1:41 PM

But what about Bidoof? That Pokémon is like the cheapest thing ever.

LethalTexture September 27th, 2008 1:54 PM

It doesn't mean they're running out of ideas.

There's lots more animals they could base new Pokémon on, or who says they have to be animals. Just because the designs are a bit extravagant and unique, doesn't mean they've run out of ideas. To be honest, this view annoys me. If it bothers you, you should go play some other game series, in my view.

Lith September 27th, 2008 2:24 PM

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Originally Posted by [SqS]Squirtle (Post 3977706)
But what about Bidoof? That Pokémon is like the cheapest thing ever.

HOW DARE YOU!! BIDOOF? CHEAP!!??
RAGH!!!!!1one

Interesting...Ive heard alot of people talk about this.
Plainly, I think all Pokemon are great in every aspect.
Yes, Probopass has a body sized nose, but think of it abilitys and such.
Game Freak have more ideas up there sleave as UberChomp said.

I agree with DeanoDance, play another game series if it bothers you so.

Fox♠ September 27th, 2008 2:36 PM

I think Nintendo has being running out of ideas since the N64 and the release of uncountable Mario spin offs.

I don't generally think the new pokemon are reflective of this though, and with the exception of a few God awful critters (Spiritomb, Garchomp etc) they done an ok job with the fourth gen. However, I think it's safe to say they're pushing it with the same repetitive formula every game.

invisible-chan September 27th, 2008 4:38 PM

Mm.... I'm not going to say much on this. Several Pokemon weren't original in the first place, but that doesn't stop me from loving them. I really hate the legendaries though. Many people will flame me for this, but I do. I hate how much bigger, and more "uber" they are becoming. There was the creator of all Pokemon, Mew; its clone, Mewtwo; and the regional elementals, the legendary birds. Next there were a phoenix and its counterpart(not quite sure how to describe them), Ho-oh and Lugia; their regional elementals, and a time-traveler. Then we have the environmental trio, and regi trio, with the [email protected] duo and a wish granter. Finally we get... a crap load of legendaries that do everything.... I'm tired of listing them. I don't know how they can get bigger in any next possible game....

YOOM-TAH September 27th, 2008 5:56 PM

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Originally Posted by invisible-chan (Post 3978342)
Mm.... I'm not going to say much on this. Several Pokemon weren't original in the first place, but that doesn't stop me from loving them. I really hate the legendaries though. Many people will flame me for this, but I do. I hate how much bigger, and more "uber" they are becoming. There was the creator of all Pokemon, Mew; its clone, Mewtwo; and the regional elementals, the legendary birds. Next there were a phoenix and its counterpart(not quite sure how to describe them), Ho-oh and Lugia; their regional elementals, and a time-traveler. Then we have the environmental trio, and regi trio, with the [email protected] duo and a wish granter. Finally we get... a crap load of legendaries that do everything.... I'm tired of listing them. I don't know how they can get bigger in any next possible game....

MEW IS NOT THE CREATOR OF ALL POKEMON! IT NEVER HAS BEEN!! THIS HAS NEVER BEEN SAID IN ANY GAME OR SHOW OR MOVIE! WHERE THE CRAP IS EVERYONE GETTING THIS FROM?!!!?!?

And they don't have to get bigger. There's plenty of other interesting ideas they can come up with that don't have to "top" the previous ones.

aaronburnsyou September 27th, 2008 5:57 PM

When I first saw the 4th gen pokemon, I thought that Game Freak's fountain of ideas was running a bit low as well. All the new evolutions to old pokemon seemed incredibly redundant, and that made up a good-sized portion of the new pokemon. However, I've been amazed by what they've been able to do with some ideas, making pokemon out of things like cherries, balloons, bee hives, LAND SHARKS, and even motors (motor backwards is rotom), and I thought the whole plot set for the 4th gen seemed incredibly fresh to the pokemon series, and the evil team actually seemed darker than the rest thus far. If anything, it seems like they've taken a big step from last generation.

But, if you don't want anymore pokemon to be created, you'll have to take your complaint up with Arceus!

EDIT: And to the post above me, about the conspiracy of Mew creating all the pokemon, everyone might just be mixing that up with Mew having the DNA of all the pokemon created.

YOOM-TAH September 27th, 2008 6:09 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronburnsyou (Post 3978598)

EDIT: And to the post above me, about the conspiracy of Mew creating all the pokemon, everyone might just be mixing that up with Mew having the DNA of all the pokemon created.

The only thing that may indicate this even, is Silver's entry.

Quote:

Its DNA is said to contain the genetic codes of all Pokémon, so it can use all kinds of techniques.
But even here, it's only "said" to have the DNA of all pokemon.

But let's roll with that, which would mean, as is stated in other pokedex entries, that Mew is the "ancestor" of all pokemon.

Guys. Ancestor =/= creator. That would mean that cavemen created the human race.

UberChomp September 28th, 2008 5:50 AM

I was really critical with the 4th gen pokemon designs in the first month of D/P release, but after I bought PBR, played competitively for about a year, I've gotten used to all of them, and now I don't hate on Probopass, Bidoof, etc.

Katnip September 28th, 2008 6:28 AM

I used to hate Bidoof until I played PMD2. Now I don't think so badly of them. :)

DJ Lorik September 28th, 2008 6:45 AM

Thing is, as I've seen with basically everyone whom is a Pokemon fan, designs of the Pokemon don't matter as much as you think they do. Not to Nintendo anyways. To us it does matter, but after we get used to it as UberChomp pointed out, we tend to forget about the imperfections. But even though Nintendo could do a better job, they probably won't. Instead I'm thinking the designs will worsen time after time.

Mōnštȝr¿ September 28th, 2008 8:06 AM

Nintendo is out of Ideas.... I say this only because the pokemon "frame" is losing originality....

YOOM-TAH September 28th, 2008 9:23 AM

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Originally Posted by infernal_rat (Post 3980569)
Nintendo is out of Ideas.... I say this only because the pokemon "frame" is losing originality....

What do you mean by "frame"? Explain that and then explain how.

Bludycomicsinc September 28th, 2008 9:24 AM

yes.Why are they always making so many legendary pokemon.

Absol Perfect Distaster September 28th, 2008 9:59 AM

I don't get why everyone is making a big deal about the new designs. I actually think that the 4th generation pokemon look really cool (most not all), like I love the design of luxray, but rotom was extremely horrible. Everyone has different opinions though.

YOOM-TAH September 28th, 2008 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bludycomicsinc (Post 3980896)
yes.Why are they always making so many legendary pokemon.

Why not? What's the actual problem with it? They're all legendary, but not all uber. And they all have way more awesome stories than the previous legendaries.

UberChomp September 28th, 2008 4:04 PM

Great 4th gen pokemon designs: Rhyperior, Luxray, Garchomp, Arceus, Shaymin, Darkrai, and a few more...


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