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The Hero Without a Name September 28th, 2008 11:47 AM

First Platinum Team
 
My first attempt at a decent Platinum team (and first offensive one at that). ANY quality rates would be appreciated.

Yanmega @ Wise Glasses
Modest
252 SPATK/4 DEF/252 SPD
Protect
Hypnosis
Air Slash
Bug Buzz
Lead. Screws stuff up, I guess.

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Sassy
252 HP/86 ATK/80 DEF/92 SPDEF
Stealth Rock
Hypnosis
Earthquake
Gyro Ball

Weavile @ Choice Band
Jolly
20 HP/252 ATK/236 SPD
Brick Break
Ice Shard
Night Slash
Pursuit
NONNEGOTIABLE; with all the Skymins and DDOutrage Mences running around, Weavile's an absolute must IMO.

Mamoswine @ Choice Band
Adamant
64 HP/252 ATK/192 SPD
Ice Shard
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Superpower
DP CBMamo, with Superpower as a better filler. Just brutal, 591 ATK is scary, especially when you have STAB Earthquake/Ice shard to back it up. Not to mention, if it gets in safely on Skymin/Mence, well...

Skymin @ Choice Specs
Timid
252 SPATK/ 4 SPDEF/ 252 SPD
Air Slash
Earth Power
Seed Flare
HPFire
Still not happy about Skymin's potential effect on Toggy's usage/tier placement, but since it's still allowed, I'll just use it anyway. HPFire's solely for Zong.


Togekiss @ Leftovers
Modest
252 HP/152 SPATK/104 SPD
Nasty Plot
Roost
Aura Sphere
Air Slash

Salamence @ Life Orb
Adamant
4 HP/252 ATK/252 SPD
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Yup. DDOutrage Mence. Was thinking "Jolly, max Speed/ATK, no reason to lose every matchup with opposing Salamence," but then I figured once the enemy sends their Mence in, I'll already have a DD in.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Adamant
252 HP/244 ATK/12 DEF
ThunderPunch
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Explosion
The old DP CBGross comes back unchanged (?) into this team. TPunch is for Gyara, while the others are standard fare.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Modest
40 HP/252 SPATK/216 SPD
HP Electric
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Dragon Pulse

Suicune @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/252 DEF/6 SPATK
Rest
Sleep Talk
HPElectric
Surf
Stalking Cune. Was wondering, should I go LO Cune or SubCM Cune? This is a backup Mence counter if Weavile dies and gives a little bulk on the team; Did the calculations, and a once-DD'd Mence does 82.4% max with Outrage.

Dark Azelf September 28th, 2008 11:52 AM

Gyarados weak use HP Electric >>ice Beam on your cune.

The Hero Without a Name September 28th, 2008 11:53 AM

Aite. Changed.

Anything more?

Dark Azelf September 28th, 2008 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fabian the Fastman (Post 3981622)
Aite. Changed.

Anything more?

Well, Yanmega, Skymin, Weavile and Mence all get smash'd by Stealth Rock. You may want to sort that out since it will prohibit switching vastly.

Zetta-Chan September 28th, 2008 12:06 PM

Yeah, get rid of something for a rapid spinner. Forrestress, Donphan, Tentacruel, or Starmie. Torkoal is an option if your brave enough to use it.

The Hero Without a Name September 28th, 2008 12:15 PM

Torkoal'd just be another SR weak...

sims796 September 28th, 2008 12:22 PM

You may be right, and it doesn't make any sense. Seriously, it;'s Fire ROCK, so it should be neutral.

Tell that to Aerodactyl

. September 28th, 2008 12:22 PM

To counter Gyara AND Rapid Spin, Utility Starmie could come in handy (rhymes! <3)

Starmie @ Leftovers
Timid
160 HP/132 SpA/218 Spe
Surf
Thunderbolt
Recover
Rapid Spin

The Hero Without a Name September 28th, 2008 12:30 PM

Just scrapped Mega for Zong with following set:

Bronzong @ Leftovers
Sassy
252 HP/86 ATK/80 DEF/92 SPDEF
Stealth Rock
Hypnosis
Earthquake
Gyro Ball

Dammit. How could I forget Starmie? Then again, right now, I feel like I just got hit by a fully charged Shield Breaker while trying to shield... [/end lame metaphor]

If I were to use Starmie though, who'd I stick him over, Cune?

Skip Shot September 28th, 2008 12:40 PM

Well, since everyone these days expects skymin on a team, you could opt for Star over it. that's just me.

Also, I do believe weavile's spot could be negotiable for my good friend and fellow fatty- Mamoswine. His Ice Shard hurts a lot more than Viles, and still beats down Skymin and DD Outrage Mence. A "bit" bulkier as well. That also takes one SR weak off of your team.

Dark Azelf September 28th, 2008 12:42 PM

On starmie now i generally prefer putting the sp.att evs in defense since LO Gyara smashes it to bits. >_<.

Heck i even advise using Bold Nature 252 HP / 176 DEF / 80 SPEED. <-- Outspeeds Jolly Mamoswine with this spread.

Samson September 28th, 2008 1:02 PM

wait sims, did you used to have torkoal on one of your much older teams? it's only fire. shame on you!

sims796 September 28th, 2008 1:09 PM

Oh, I'm sorry! I could have sworn that it was half Rock, yet still took full damage from Stealth Rock, like Aero.

The Hero Without a Name October 2nd, 2008 5:32 PM

Just made some new edits (added Mamo). Come to think of it, I have 4 freaking fire weaknesses... so I scrapped Meta for ScarfTran.

EDITS:

Screw Skymin. I replaced it with your standard NP sweeping Toggy.

Anti October 2nd, 2008 6:52 PM

I really wouldn't recommend Togekiss. It's actually fairly easy to revenge kill despite its bulk, and the new Rotom forms really really hurt it, since they're some of the only counters to it.

If you want a bulky sweeper, I think something like Celebi of the CM or LO sweeper variants would be a superior choice.


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