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*British Accent* He's Got the Inside Water! (Monotype RMT)
Well,since my shoddy is screwing up right now, I'm not able to compete in Vance's monotype tournament, which sux. I felt like posting my monotype team up here for a rate. Remember this:
According to Vance's Rules, one of the pokemon does not have to be of the type that you were given. My type- you guessed it- was water. http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/gyarados.png Gyarados @ Life Orb Jolly Nature 252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP Aqua Tail Stone Edge Dragon Dance Thunder Wave This lead is a shocker to everyone who meets it. Expecting something like Taunt, they go to a taunt aborber, whilst they are T-Waved, or I set up. Stone Edge and Aqua Tail destroy most of today's common leads. http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/swampert.png Swampert @ Choice Band Adamant Nature 252 Def/ 252 Atk/ 6 HP Waterfall Earthquake Stone Edge Avalanche This is a phyiscal, monstrous beast. He can come in and abosrb physical hits, and kill back with powerful moves such as STAB waterfall and EQ, Stone Edge for Bulky Waters and such, Avalanche for Grass types who think that sleeping me is a good idea. http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/kingdra.png Kingdra @ Choice Specs Modest Nature 252 Spa/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP Hydro Pump Dragon Pulse HP Electric Ice Beam My main special sweeper. STAB Specs Hydro Pump Hurts.; BAD. I used to run a suicide Rain Dance Aero for a lead, Hydro Pump terrorized everyone for that. All the other moves are pretty self-explanatory. http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/vaporeon.png Vaporeon @ Leftovers Bold Nature 68 Spa/ 252 Def/ 188 HP Wish Protect Surf HP Electric I have aboslutely no idea how to make a WishVappy set, but this onehas been working somewhat. Extreme help needed on this set. http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/suicune.png Suicune @ Leftovers Bold Nature 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 4 Spe Calm Mind Surf Rest Roar Ah, Crocune. So bulky, yet so powerful. Water hits a lot of things Hard, so Surf is the attacking move here. I chose not to RestTalk so I could phaze. besides, Crocune can get so bulky, 2-5 turns of sleep doesn't matter. http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/dragonite.png Dragonite @ Yache Berry Adamant/Jolly Nature 252 Spe/ 252 Atk/ 6 HP Dragon Dance Earthquake Outrage FirePunch/ Aqua Tail/Roost I've nevver used dragonite before, so I'm not to keen on movesets. This guy's sole purpose is to take on grass types and to "revenge-kill" E-vire by coming after Vire Kills, taking an Ice Punch while DDing, then killing with EQ. |
I know this may seem awkward, but one of the top-notch water types, Starmie, can SERIOUSLY destroy this team.
[email protected] Orb Timid, Natural Cure 252sp.atk/216spd/40HP (or 252sp.atk/252spd/6HP) Surf Thunderbolt Ice Beam Grass Knot This set is indeed rare, usually with Recover over Grass Knot, but if said Starmie user goes full offense, you're in trouble. Sub-Roost Nite weak Physical Electivire preys on 2/3 of the team (5/6 if Kingdra is weak), should it switch in on a Gyarados Thunder Wave later in the game. Keep Swampert alive, or you can be in a death zone. |
Changing the surprise poke might help with Star and Vire. Let's see...
Shuckmonlee could work would a Scarf/MoP(never figured out wat tat meant lol)/RestTalk Cross work over Tran? I mainly had tran in there since I was going to be facing TB with the team, and he was grass. |
You could use the Rest/Sleep Talk/Megahorn/Stone Edge Heracross if that floats your boat. It'll counter most Starmies with ease, but does nothing to help against Vire. It's not OHKO'd, but still.
The key attacking types you need to avoid are Grass and Electric. Swampert helps with Electric weakness, but nothing absorbs grass; well, with Heatran or Heracross, you have an answer. A bulky Dragon can also help if you drop Kingdra, but that might open up Vire to KO your team quicker with Ice Punch. |
Heatran is just so constracting with my beautiful aquetic angels...insted of it, use a Rain Dance lead to assist the rest of your team. No Water/Ice combo? Dewgong could be a great assert to this team, but they are all beloved Water-types...
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Since your Kingdra is spec'd, you could go Draco Meteor > Dragon Pulse unless the PP is an issue.
Also Wish Vappy works better with [email protected] HP, 252 Def, 68 Sp Atk. |
E-vire pretty much is going to scrwe my team over. I just have to find a way to outspeed and revenge kill... Iwould go Duggy over Tran, but I lose my Grass Resist.
Froslass, Water/Ice opens me up to Evire more, since he can then bring some pressure on with Cross Chop and such. Diablo, PP isn't much of an issue for me, I jsut odn't prefer having the spa drop on a specs set. Thanx for the help on Wish Vappy. |
I don't see how Starmie destroys this team. Kingdra can revenge kill Starmie by taking an Ice Beam (44.18% - 52.05%) And OHKO with HP Electric.
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LO Star outspeeds modest Specs Kingdra from what I know. Which means if kIngdra switches in, its screwed.
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Notice why I said "revenge kill" Basically, come in after something dies (or just a Surf, since Kingdra 4x resists it) and OHKO it.
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I didn't read the revenge kill part, lol. Mai eyes are going blind from overchlorination.
Responding to ABYAY's post about briniging a bulky dragon: It could work, except for one minor problem. To use the only bulky dragon I want to use, I have to steal the patent of your Sub-Roost Nite from you. That gives me an answer against E-vire and grasses at the same time. I know how badly Sub-Roost Nite hurts, I've been whacked around by it before. |
Um, how does it give you an answer to E-Vire? Electivire learns Ice Punch.
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Ask ABYAY how he survived a double DD Stone Edge from my Gyara with his Roost Nite and could still sub. that Nite is extremely bulky. It alsohas Roost to shrug off the damage.
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Gyarados's Stone Edge w/ 2 Dragon Dances + LO vs. 385 HP/258 Def Dragonite= 130.91%-154.29%
Electivire's Ice Punch w/ LO vs. 385 HP/258 Def Dragonite= 107.01%-126.75% ._. |
odd. i didn't know that standard one would be OHKOed like that.
DOesn't Nite outspeed E-Vire? That would mean that E-vire gets outstalled by Nite, then I can switch to Vappy, take the T-Bolt that comes at me w/ Protect, bring in Swampert, and eitehr for a switch or EQ kill. |
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Seeing that with Yache, a 6HP/0Def Dragonite will take at max 98.77% damage from a Choice Banded Adamant max attack Electivire's Ice Punch, outurns it after one Dragon Dance, and OHKOs it with Earthquake, Dragonite can beat Eletivire one-on-one. |
Good point, however we are using abyay's bulky subroost nite, so dd isn't going to help.
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Why do you even HAVE a vire weak with swampert lol ?. HP Grass isnt even common so you have nothing to fear tbh.
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Good point, should I just run a DD Outrage Nite with Yache?
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probably. either u or some guy named tofu that pissed me off on the ladder before it crashed on me by showing up 5 battles in a row...
I'm going to change ScarfTran to DDOutrage Yache Nite. That stops vire, counters my grass and electirc weaks, and helps me team out more than Tran |
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