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I never got to see those guys. They only appear once, and I didn't notice them. I might have noticed the butler, though... I don't remember. It's been a while since I've gone through the place for the first time. I think I'll search for them when Platinum comes out...
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I can't imagine how it would work with the ds, but that could be me because I'm used to the updating and patching on the pc and psp. |
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I always Sp. Attack EV train my Pokemon there and I always look for the two for the fun of it while training. It never matters what you do first (example: look or "talk" to the statue to see the butler) or what time of day/night/morning you look for them. The only thing you need to do is to be patient. Just walk in and out of the specific rooms (depending on who you want to see) over and over again until they appear. If you ask me, I belive they simply appear at random every time you enter those two rooms. As for the Painting, that's easy. It works every time so, I won't bother typing. So, TorchicBlaziken, go ahead and return to the old place I can never spell. You'll find them. Just be patient. |
Heh, I went to the old Chateau last night to see if I could find the ghosts for some Halloween fun. I only saw the butler and the painting, though. :3:
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Just to confirm this, where are the ghosts?
1. Dining Room 2. Room w/ Rotom television event? Because I've been in there numerous times and I haven't seen anything. =| |
Are you kidding? I LOVE playing at night. It is so awesome. Now about the little girl, I think she is probably a ghost because maybe the little kid got lost in the chateau and died from lack of food and water.
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By the way, I went to search for, at least, the butler today in the way I described earlier. It was sometime within the 11th hour of the day (11 AM) and took about 10 to 12 times of going in and out of the dining room before I saw the butler. So, I can say, quite certainly, that's all you gotta do. I hope this clears things up for you. Happy (ghost) hunting! |
It's my secret ingredient for scaring my parents at night. xD
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this thing scared me so much. i saw it about 2-3 days after the game came out, because i wanted to see everything. saw this, and didnt play for about 2 weeks, then worked up the courage to start playing again. TRUE STORY! this totally freaked me out, and the music is creepy. its like: duhhhhnnnn duhhhnnnn duhhhhhhnnnnn DUHNNN!
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I went in last night at about 11:30 and I still didn't see anything. Would it have to do with me merely having 6 badges? :P (Trainer Card is bogus but team is correct) |
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I was wondering if this was the mansion near Hearthome. Obviously not. I'm gonna have a look...
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I would try at this moment in time but I'm heading for Snowpoint. :P I wish someone would take pics of these ghosts. |
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I saw the girl! Still haven't seen the Butler yet.
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I love it there i would personally like their in platinum like a side quest were you have to find out what happended to them. like the gym leader isnt in the gym and you have to help her solve the mystery before you can battle her!
i think it would be just great! |
I saw the girl and butler in all three games now! Finally! Also, there is no Platinum mission, I beat it.
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My thoughts on this: The Pokémon Mansion's statue must be related. Don't ask me how, I haven't read that much on this matter, but it seems interesting. I'll read some more. |
The statue is... odd and may have an effect on events. It's not a normal script, I noticed...
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Saw the girl and the butler now. Theres gotta be a way of finding something out about these. Maybe, when the guard goes on break in the Mansion with Trophy Garden, go touch the statue then go to the Old Chateau and touch the other statue?
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I think it may have something to do with Rotom... Its existence there can be related to previous events, apart from living in the TV. But come to think of it, with all the hacking possibilities, nowadays, if there was something someone had already found it out =P. |
Someone might actually make a hack out of it if you think of the possibilities.
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She and the Butler are ghosts. Personaly, I think that the little girl had Rotox (whatever it is) as a pokemon, in another form, only it became a ghost with her and lived in the TV. Another secret of the Old Chateau is that if you go into the main room of the mansion, and talk to the side of the statue next to the dining room door, and immediatly enter the dining room after, a butler will be spotted from across the table, that will then hover (like a "ghost") off screen, where it freakin vanishes! Freakin freaky, huh?
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And I'm pretty sure there's no in-game direct thing to do between both statues. I'm not quite sure why, however, Rotom is found in Old Chateau. Perhaps it's just because it's a spooky environment? But, I digress. The other night I was playing Platinum and was roaming Old Chateau when to my alarm the ghostly little girl crept across the screen. To say that I was startled would have been a bit of an understatement - then again, it WAS late at night.. :B Quote:
Wouldn't it be interesting if he actually lived in Old Chateau instead? |
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I read Bulbapedia and it says that Pluto might have possibley grown up with the Rotom. |
I fail to understand how a sprite no bigger than a few pixels wide on your DS can scare you.
Also, the sprites aren't even spooky looking, just look like normal people, could have made them translucent or something, maybe unsaturated in color. |
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Now, my point here is that there are many different things in this universe (or other universes if you one who's into the whole 'multi-dimensional' thing) and many different reasons to fear them. These things may sometimes be completely weird and silly but, just keep in mind, the human mind (not to be confused with the human brain) is very complex. With all the psychologists of history who've studied it, we are still yet to fully understand how it works. As for the fear of a sprite on a game screen, I think many here agree that, yeah, it's creepy but, that's it. I belive the fact that such a bizzare thing would be programed into a generally child directed game, is rather creepy, right? Not to mention the background music that plays whenever you're in there. The music really can alter your very mood. Though, as with color, music only alters your mood based on your life long assosiations with the particular melody and such (or color). That's only how I feel though. The entire scientific community still debates on the mood altering subject. However, the fact that is does alter it is agreed to be truth. Anyway, returning to what does play in the game, the majority of players associate creepiness and fear with such music, just as the designers intended. I sure hope I was able to cover all my thoughts here, as well as enable those who seem so sceptical on our "fears" to better understand why we say what we do. I also, hope I can at least speak for the majority here. I definetly don't want to put words in others' mouths. Well, I guess that's it, and fell free to comment and/or add to what I've just said. Otherwise, one remains stiff and bland; never able to grow from the ideas of others. Well, see ya! |
"I never saw the girl yet...........but the old man is REALLY creepy...what room is the girl in?"
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Shes in the second to last room down to the right on the top flight of stairs, If that makes sense. :P
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I understand your points, but fear of spiders is a phobia, very different from a simple fear.
Fear is something like fear of Dieing, or of pain, a valid reason to be scared. A phobia is classed as being scared of something that possibly couldn't harm you. And before you say HURR DURR VENOMOUS SPIDERS, that's not what Arachnophobia is. It's being scared OF the spider, not what it's capable of. My point is, as far as I am aware there is no phobia of being scared of pixels. And finding it creepy - I dunno it just looked like a random girl in the house, same with the old man. Nothing creepy for me... And that's it an opinion - I don't get why a 16x16 pixel is creepy, even witht eh fiction involved lol. |
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However, I'm no expert on the subect and I'm not one to disagree. Besides, I thank you for responding to what I typed. You have good insight, as well as making the time I took to type it worth while. I do love debating things, however, there's a huge difference between debating and arguing so, I won't. Well, if you or anyone else who wishes to join in this little debate has anymore comments, feel free to let eveyone know. After all, that is the point of the fourms, right? Let's just not stray too far from the actual ghost subject, okay? |
[QUOTE=e6life;4100726]Well, maybe I just gave an example that you didn't quite get the point out of. I suppose, in a nut shell, I simply mean that different people find different things scary, no matter what degree of fear. Also, fear, like any emotion, can nearly range infinate points. Yet, it's all the same; just different levels.
However, I'm no expert on the subect and I'm not one to disagree. Besides, I thank you for responding to what I typed. You have good insight, as well as making the time I took to type it worth while. I do love debating things, however, there's a huge difference between debating and arguing so, I won't. Well, if you or anyone else who wishes to join in this little debate has anymore comments, feel free to let eveyone know. After all, that is the point of the fourms, right? Let's just not stray too far from the actual ghost subject, okay?[/QUOTE Hehe, don't worry about it!! After all it is just an opinion, thus me stating that I can't really comprehend it's scare factor personally :P But yeah thanks for your reply also :) Anyway, i can't wait til' Platinum is released, I want a LAWNMOWER ROTOM. |
I would really like to see The Rotom forms now :(
BUT what if 1 of rotoms Forms becomes a Uber and cannot be used in most battles :;( |
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I admit, I don't believe I've seen the old man. Maybe I will, one of these days. |
I didn't find it too scary myself...And I was playing it at near midnight.
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God, did she want to take the item before me? That is selfish! She's probably a ghost OMG
Brr... The old man probably finished his ghostly supper...bleugh |
I was also playing late when i discovered the old chateu..
I was first scared by the music and all.. But when i saw the old man.. I shivered like h*ll... The girl was also scary.. But the worst thing that made me so scared was.. when you check the TV out.. It says: '' The TV has gotten a malevolent feeling, It's like it's... staring'' I got so scared!!! |
You find that scary you watch gun be pulled on your bf
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Never heard of this D:
*Goes to DS to investigate* |
I saw both her and the old man, first I was like;"Omg! ghosts!"
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I think the little girl's a whole lot scarier than the old grandpa dude. I'd rather be chased around by an old geezer than little girl.
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Someone posted how to somewhere around here. I can't remember where though.
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I found that absolutely not scary. The freaky part was when I said:
Man, this is getting boring. TV! *goes to tv and turns on* HOLY ****! |
Lol. Before I knew you had to get the National Dex to get Rotom, I thought I could just get a cool Pokemon, seeing as how it's only like Lv. 27 or something like that. I was disappointed. :/
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It actually scares me.I don't think im ever going back to tat place again
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I haven't seen this little girl or the old man but it sounds very strnge why put in a random girl and old man ? *clueless*
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Yeah, I saw her and the old man.
It's very creepy to see them at night, with the volume. I almost flung my DS across the room! |
>XD I loved it! *loves ghosts*
I haven't seen the man yet. (Then agian, I do play these things at like 12-5AM so, I might have just overlooked him) |
Mini-story Time! :D!
Read at night while listening to the Old Chateau music for extra spookiness. The Old Chateau was nearly invisible contrasted against the dark green trees. It was midnight in Eterna Forest, and two Galactic Grunts were having a tea party. At this hour? Preposterous! But they were. "Would you be a dear and pass the waffles?" Grunt 1 said to Grunt 2. "Um... this is a tea party. We don't have waffles." Grunt 2 said irritably. "I have waffles." said a voice. "WAFFLES?!" Grunt 1 shouted, seeing the Old Chateau where the voice had come. Grunt 2 hadn't noticed that the other grunt had left. "Billy? Billy? Where are you?" she said, looking around nervously. She saw the Chateau and opened the squeaky door. "Biiiiiiiiiiilly? Are you in here?" she asked, looking cautiously at a statue. She walked up to a door inside the main foyer, and turned back around, looking at the statue. It's eyes seemed to glisten, glaring at her, and yet focusing on every part of the room except her. She looked back around, heard a sound, and looked back. "Hmm... there's nothing there." she said, shrugging. But that was the problem. There was nothing there. Where there was a statue, the space was empty. Realizing this, she whirled back around. The statue was there again. "Oh... I must have... imagined it." she turned back around and- "AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!" she screamed, for right in front of her was a little girl, floating a few inches above the ground, looking at her. "Hi." she said, raising an eyebrow. The Galactic Grunt paled and stumbled backwards, hitting the grunt with a thud. "Please... get back..." The Grunt said, scuttling backwards. "Errr... okay." The girl said, floating away, through the wall. The Grunt was breathing rapidly, standing back up and pulling open the door as quickly as possible. She walked in and saw a large table with a butler across from it. "Please! Please, there are ghosts here! My friend Billy... I can't find him, could you help-" she was cut off by the blank stare of the butler. "Hello?" she asked, an icy chill gripping her. The butler turned, but didn't turn like a normal person. The turn was fluid, like a person who wasn't walking. A person- "Floating... Aaaaaaahhhhh!!" She screamed, dashing out of the door, ignoring the butler floating through the wall. She saw Billy dash down the staircase as well, running out of the door gripping a box of waffle mix. They nearly ran into each other while they were escaping out of the front door, and they collapsed on the forest floor outside. "Its going to be okay, Billy. It's gonna be okay." The grunt said, turning towards Billy. He was gone. DUN. DUN. DUUUN!!! :D |
The Place looks Scary. but why Nintendo added these Creepy Things in Old Chateau? its Spooky but it does nothing and it doesnt affect the game either. or maybe this must be a Mystery.
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I've saw the little girl, when I was in the television room, I saw the little girl in the right. I didn't think it was creepy, i tried to talk to her but she was gone. I haven't seen the butler yet though.
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I feel like this was a joke by nintendo. This isn't serious, 2 people that are ghosts that appear about 4% of the time. So?
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then again...
maybe they are just for ambiance, who knows? ive seen the girl three times in one night first time it was eerie I'll admit but then i was curious about why she was thre and does she have and connection to the room with the two beds that apears to be a child's room? I have read the other posts on this and i find it interesting there may be a backstory to the ghosts of the old chateau. i have not seen the butler yet however. oh and thanks for the tip on gengar wand the room with the eyes. the eye thing was eerie hen i saw it for the first time as well.
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It'd be interesting to actually talk to them. If you could.
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It was around 2 am when I saw the little girl for the first time, I was EV training or something. My face was like O.O when I saw her xD
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Yes.
It freaked me out...I found her the first time at like, 9 o' clock at night, and I had the volume turned up the whole way. The whole finding a ghost in a Pokemon game in the night with freaky music blasting at full volume kinda freaked me out a little. O_o There's a butler ghost also, in the dining room. I found him rather late at night, too. |
I can't remember when I saw them. It probably was at night. But it freaked me out. I was like "Whoa,where did those come from?"
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they only pretending to be scared it only for a joke come on only a mess around.
anyway i want to know when and where i can see the 2 ghosts i would really like to see them and have a good scare "sigh" i wish it was halloween again. . . |
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when i saw them, i got so freakin' creeped out!!
I thin theyr just ghosts, to show how creepy teh chatou or whatever really is |
OMG! I finally saw the girl...she is very creepy!! And to tell u the truth the room u go in to see the girl the room with the bed there is this purple pic, with red eyes...and when u go up by it the red eyes go away!!
CREEPY!! |
there has to be something more to them.I know it.wait a miniut..spirtom was traped for eviel deads right?Maby he killed the buttler and the girl?
Pm me ur ideas |
Uh, wasn't there another thread like this? And someone said you coulda just googled it. xD
I like talking about the ghosts, so I'll post something interesting anyways. BTW, they freaked me out when I first saw them, xD Um...if you see the girl and the butler at night, then run around like a maniac in the room with the painting, you might be lucky enough to come across a Gengar. And you also need like a GBA game like FireRed or Emerald in the GBA slot. But it's way rare. Sometimes the ghosts won't appear when you first enter their rooms, so just keep going in and out till they show up. There are alotta rumors of why there are ghosts. The fire, the poisin, the antidote, the twins. Just google it, and you'll get a lotta hits. |
that little girl is really freaky:bandit:
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I reckon those ghosts were a really cool touch. Sure they have no purpose, but that just adds to the feeling.
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Serious question... Can you see them more than once?
I'd thought that I'd just been imagining things, ya 'know? Trying to make the game seem a little more interesting. Good to know I'm not crazy! XD |
Yep, sure you can, anytime you want, like I've said before, just keep on going in and out of their rooms, they'll show up soon enough.
I thought I was crazed when I first saw the girl too, xD. |
Dude, that gitl is just a gosth its about the ... pokemon the electric one in there r... something its just a wel parto of the mistery the thay you look in IN the TV and it says it gives a feeling of starrind ... something like it ROTOM thats the one when you get rotom...
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A form of rotom? that was my first idea when i was hunting for him on a friend DS
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Is this little event still in Platinum?
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:O This is still active! XD
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I think the 'ghosts' were originally supposed to have their own events in the game, like enter the room and see the girl/butler, then they disappear. Perhaps Nintendo just decided to remove this event and somehow a glitch occured with them.
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What would happen if you employed the help of an Action Replay and tried to talk to her? O -O
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Chances are, either your game will crash if you try talking to her, or she will walk right through you. I'm not too sure. But the ghosts in the Chateau don't freak me out much. They are just weird.
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I tried it, you can't actually talk to her at all, though a weird glitch occurs, and you can't use any doors if you AR through the walls when she's there.
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Yes I've seen that little girl at least 5 times any time I go to the next room she is gone!
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please some maka video ofit and snd t to me i wanna see itrealbadive sen the old man or the but:)
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There's at least one on youtube , you could see that one
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Lol, ALOT of people are still talking about the ghosts.
And there IS a video on Youtube that shows the ghosts in the Old Chateau, Just search it on Google. And seriously if you see the little girl for the first time at night... it just freaks you out. Also you CAN'T talk to her! |
Oh yeah. x D
There's also an old man. 8 D When I saw the little girl I was like "...What just happened?" |
I've been in the place alot, trying to "Catch 'em All" but I've never seen the ghosts. I'll mess around with it tonight :D
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At first I thought it was a flaw in the guidebook. Then I finally read the paragraph about it. =p
She's not really "scary", just odd. You can see other people too, like in the kitchen sometimes legless men float right past you. |
:O I've never seen that either! Then again, now I have an excuse to faff around in the Old Chateau XD
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Wow. This thing has been goin' on forever but i still have yet to try it out for myself :P
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this is my personal theory as this happened to me, if someone else has found this please also say so
basically i went into the mansion saw both of them and then went into the room with the painting of what looks like a dark tree which has two red dots that remind me of eyes on it if you are not in front of it anyway i encountered a male Gengar and caught it in the room its actually really good its timid with perfect IVs in sp attack and speed and then directly after i encountered a female Gengar scored a crit hit and it fainted on me and i have never found a Gengar since or seen those two ghosts has anyone else had this happen to them? |
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Man that place freaks me out. |
hello u ignord my theroy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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That just really scared me... I didn't like the girl. It makes me feel upset that some people as young as that die for no good reason.
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I always thought it was a Gastly or Haunter casting an illusion to make the girl/butler.
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