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Aurafire October 4th, 2008 6:47 PM

A super special awesome OU Shoddy RMT
 
That's right, Aura finally stopped by for a good ol' RMT....Been meaning to do this for a while, but never found the time, So here we go!



http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/474.png

@Expert Belt
Modest
6 HP / 252 Sp Att / 252 Speed
Bug Buzz
HP Ice
Hypnosis
Protect

Generic lead. Put other generic leads to sleep, like Bronzong and Scarftran (after a speed boost)...Although that 60% accuracy for hypnosis might screw me over...

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/248.png

@Life Orb
Hasty
116 Att / 144 Sp Att / 248 Speed
Crunch
Dragon Dance
Fireblast
Ice beam

Mix dancer Tyranitar. Obliterates everything in sight with crunch, but then surprises those physical walls thinking that they can switch in and counter me.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/373.png

@ Life Orb
Mild
120 Att / 252 Sp Att / 136 Speed
Brick Break
Draco Meteor
Flame Thrower
Crunch

Mixmence = Own.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/493.png

@Leftovers
Bold
252 HP / 108 Def / 150 Sp def
Thunder Wave
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Moonlight

This thing is as sturdy as the come. I'm running a kind of hybrid Calm Mind/Mixed Wall set, and it's working pretty well.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/453.png

@Life Orb
Adamant
6 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
Swords Dance
Extreme Speed
Bullet Punch
Close Combat

Yeah...SD luke. He's a monstrosity....Late-game sweeping with him never gets old.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/470.png

@Leftovers
Impish
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Sp Def
Leech Seed
Power Whip
Sleep Powder
Knock Off

My Gyrados counter...Tangrowth laughs at Ice Fang, even after a DDance. Knock Off and Leech Seed as obvious support moves.

Suggestions are much appreciated!

The Hero Without a Name October 4th, 2008 7:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurasphere (Post 4003687)
That's right, Aura finally stopped by for a good ol' RMT....Been meaning to do this for a while, but never found the time, So here we go!



http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/474.png

@Expert Belt
Modest
6 HP / 252 Sp Att / 252 Speed
Bug Buzz
HP Ice
Hypnosis
Protect

Generic lead. Put other generic leads to sleep, like Bronzong and Scarftran (after a speed boost)...Although that 60% accuracy for hypnosis might screw me over...

Where's Bug Buzz? Yanmega really wants his secondary STAB.
Quote:


http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/248.png

@Life Orb
Brave
116 Att / 144 Sp Att / 248 Speed
Crunch
Dragon Dance
Fireblast
Ice beam

Mix dancer Tyranitar. Obliterates everything in sight with crunch, but then surprises those physical walls thinking that they can switch in and counter me.
Why Brave? You're defeating the purpose of a DD set if you use a -Speed nature. Use Hasty, so he can outspeed base 115's with those IV's after a DD.
Quote:


http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/373.png

@ Life Orb
Mild
120 Att / 252 Sp Att / 136 Speed
Brick Break
Draco Meteor
Flame Thrower
Crunch

Mixmence = Own.
Okay

Quote:

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/493.png

@Leftovers
Bold
252 HP / 108 Def / 150 Sp def
Thunder Wave
Calm Mind
Ice Beam
Moonlight

This thing is as sturdy as the come. I'm running a kind of hybrid Calm Mind/Mixed Wall set, and it's working pretty well.
Quote:

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/453.png

@Life Orb
Adamant
6 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
Swords Dance
Extreme Speed
Bullet Punch
Stone Edge

Yeah...SD luke. He's a monstrosity....Late-game sweeping with him never gets old.
SD Luke NEEDS Close Combat, or else he isn't really gonna do all that much damage.
Quote:

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/470.png

@Leftovers
Impish
252 HP / 252 Def / 6 Sp Def
Leech Seed
Power Whip
Sleep Powder
Knock Off

My Gyrados counter...Tangrowth laughs at Ice Fang, even after a DDance. Knock Off and Leech Seed as obvious support moves.

Suggestions are much appreciated!
Alright.

. October 4th, 2008 7:20 PM

Tangrowth is not a good LO DD Gyarados counter. It gets murdered by Ice Fang after a Dragon Dance.

Lucario needs Close Combat; use it over Stone Edge please. I reccomend LO >>> Expert Belt on Yanmega, and get rid of either Protect or Hypnosis, and use Air Slash. HP Ground > HP Ice as well.

Use Hasty on MixDDTar as well.

Archer October 4th, 2008 9:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance (Post 4003818)
Tangrowth is not a good LO DD Gyarados counter. It gets murdered by Ice Fang after a Dragon Dance.

Lucario needs Close Combat; use it over Stone Edge please. I reccomend LO >>> Expert Belt on Yanmega, and get rid of either Protect or Hypnosis, and use Air Slash. HP Ground > HP Ice as well.

Use Hasty on MixDDTar as well.

I second all of this. HP Ground sucks on Scarf Sets, however, as it lets anything airbourne come in and set up on you. Hypnosis is no longer as reliable as it used to be due to the acc. drop with Pt. So:
Air Slash || Bug Buzz || HP Ground || Protect

As for Brave on TTar, it was only viable with Boah, which needed the stats everywhere, so Speed lost the least in the stat drop, which was the most easily replaced. He isn't going to miss the Def much.


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