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Return of the Bug-Themed Team!
Drapion @ Black Sludge
Impish Battle Armor 252 HP, 6 ATT, 252 DEF Crunch Toxic Spikes Knock Off WhirlWind Flygon @ Lefties Hasty 252 HP/252 ATT/ 6 SDEF Earthquake Roost Fire Blast Dragon Claw Yanmega @ Life Orb Modest Speed Boost 56 HP/252 SATT/200Spd Hypnosis Protect Bug Buzz Air Slash Pinsir @ Expert Belt Adamant 6 HP/252 ATT/252 SPD Moldbreaker X-Scissor Earthquake Stone Edge Swords Dance Forretress @ Shed Shell Relaxed Nature 252 HP / 16 ATT / 240 DEF Gyro Ball Explosion Spikes Rapid Spin Ledian @ Leftovers 252 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 6 SP.ATT Calm nature Light Screen Bug Buzz U turn Roost Basically, with the advent of Platinum, I need to know if this team can utilize any of the new moves they obtained in the newest installment of the series. Quote:
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A Platinum bug team without Scizor? Wow.
And what a weakness to Heatran, HP Ice/Fire Blast/Earth Power >>> This team. Best chance you got is to hopefully put it to sleep and then hit an EQ with Pinsir, |
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I know Scizor is a must now, ever since it got Bullet Punch >.>; |
if it were me id have a heracross or a scyther/scizor instead of ledian but to each his own
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Well scarfed Heatran will give this team all kinds of hell until Flygon scares him away with a stabbed earthquake. Bugs types tend to have the same problems that grass types do. Without HP fire Skarmory is coming in every time to spike the field and whirlwind you away.
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I'm having a laugh at your idea of Ledian as a special wall, 4x SR weak, garbage typing and rubbish other stats meaning the only special sweeper its walling is Choice Specs Combee, and even then CS Air Cutter does quite a bit of damage.
Confused at the fact I see no Heracross, Scizor or Gliscor. Generic special sweeper weak, however Infernape, Heatran and Typhlosion are the most serious. Good luck getting around Rotom-H too. |
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I am not some RMT n00b. I am well-aware that theme-teams are VERY hard to play against common standards. Basically I want some ideas to improve it with the advent of Platinum. Not to mention of all things this is a Bug Egg-Group Team. There will always be problems with Fire-Types and Stealth Rocks |
Shuckle can kind of help you with your heatran problem.....I think . I'll take a closer look at it tomorrow though.
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Well...Shuckle can't do anything back, especially since Heatran is immune to Toxic, and Shuckle has the offesnive abilities of a...Shuckle. God I hate Shuckle. But, if it can survive a Heatranattack, it could Encore it so flygon can revenge kill.
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Though of course, using a theme team is by no means not to use standards. The staple bug pokemon should be used, like Heracross, Scizor and Gliscor (not technically a bug, but he looks a lot like one). Stealth Rock is being used more often then ever before (and that was pretty often) so Ledian really isn't going to see much light here. So lets see here. Pinsir is pretty much outclassed by Heracross. So here's what I got. Heracross @ choice band 100 HP, 252 Atk, 156 speed Adamant/Jolly (adamant preferred) Megahorn Close Combat Stone Edge Pursuit/Sleep Talk It's pretty much a standard banded Heracross, but standard isn't bad eh =P. Your team doesn't have a single choiced pokemon and with something that has 125 base attack, and phenominal coverage, I think he will be a welcome addition to your team. Megahorn is your main attack as it hits a lot of things hard, but if you aren't feeling easy with it's 85 accuracy in certain situations, you can strike with close combat. Stone Edge is for things like Gyarados who thinks he has a switch in. Pursuit if you want to hit things running away, or you can surprise sleep inducers with sleep talk and hit them hard. However, you can only use sleep talk once before switching out, so prioritize Pursuit. If you'd like, you can also run a Choice Scarf version of this if you wish, as it will make your job dealing with heatran and lets you revenge kill much easier, but of course with less power. If you choose scarf, take out the HP EVs for max Speed. |
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As such, a Bug team is one of those teams that has the short end of the stick. Hell, Mixape with HP ICE can run through this entire team. However, I think that he should be focusing on it's strengths. My theory is, rather than trying to make a well built team, you should just make a team that occmpliments the type. Meaning, more sweepers, less walls. |
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BTW, a mono grass team abusing sunny day and chlorophyll could be very good, but it all depends on what pokemon you use. |
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True, but they certainly won't take the metagaemz by storm. With such top tier pokes, each with diverse moves, you'll need to pick the right type, along with pokes to try and offeset those types, etc. Sunny Day OU teams pretty much suffer from Ttar, even with a method to take it out (Drain Punch plume FTW).
That's besides the point, of course. EDIT:Hm, thought it was just ground. That doesn't change everythingn else I just said. |
What specific suggestions can you give, besides "Replace Pokemon A with Pokemon B"
Heracross was the only true suggestion so far, so what else can I do to improve it? |
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Well, read it again,Dunsparce (what type is Sparse, anyway? Bug? Nevermind), As I said, instead of focusing on standard team layout, you need to be more offensive. Gliscor could cover the defense, but Hera, Yamega, even Scizor, would be a major help. Scarfing Flygon would be a huge help. Lunar Fang provided good reasoning with his suggestion, although I don't know what Shuckle could really do against Heatran. Other than be a Shukle. God I hate Shuckle. Still, I won't let my hatred of Shuckle get im your way.
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I never said you were a noob. I just said Ledian sucks as a special wall.
Gliscor IS in the Bug Egg Group, so thats viable. I would advise running Hera, Scizor and Yanmega here. Flygon is defintely useful, and Forretress to spin away stuff. Oddly, with these 6 only 1 of your Pokemon is weak to SR. Sadly most weaks can not be fixed, but an aggresive enough team will give you the upper hand enough. |
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Now, as I said, Scarf Flygon. Forretress isn't useful here much, as you will not have time to spin. |
Wow, heck whoops. Thats what you get for only reading a few posts below yours >_<
I suppose backing up what other people say does give the OP confidence it what to edit in though ^_^; |
Okay, so I need:
Gliscor Flygon Yanmega (Already had on the team to begin with) Heracross Scizor Shuckle? (I'm really questioning this one. Poor HP negates its huge Defenses, IMO) So, specifically, what sets should I run for each? Please do it in this format: [email protected] Nature EVs Ability -Move -Move -Move -Move Heracross I got down, and I hope the Yanmega I have is sufficient enough. And I need some more opinions on Pokemon #6 |
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I H8Z SHUCKLE1!!!11! ALWAIZ GOIN "SHUCKLEUCKLEUCKLEUCKLEUCKLEUCKLEUCKLEUCKLE"
But yeah, I didn't see Shuck Norris fitting in either. I'll help with Flygon. [email protected] Scarf Nature:Naive Draco Meteor U-Turn Stone Edge/ThunderPunch Earthquake EV:252 Atk, 120 SpA, 136 Spe If you're wondering, the astronomical amount of sp.atk EV's is for the OHKO-ification of Salamence. |
If you're going to use Shuckie, I would give it 252 HP.
I would consider making Hera either FlameGUts or RestTalk for a status absorber. |
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