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GO GO POWER RANGERS
Introduction The main idea behind this team is to use Pokes I haven't used before (or recently, in both Deoxys-e and Cune's case), like Feraligatr. Unfortunately, it was having trouble with standards, so I had to tweak it up a bit and didn't get to use things like Aerodactyl (back in OU baby!) Still, this should be considered a serious team, although I didn't plan nor do I believe it shall do excellent or soar to the top of the leaderboards (you never do know though T_T) Oh, and sorry, no Power Rangers theme. The Lineup http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/142.png http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/245.png http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/373.png http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/b/b7/Spr_4d_160.png http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/389.png http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/7/75/Spr_4d_286.png Aerodactyl {Lead} http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/aerodactyl.png Aerodactyl @ Life Orb Jolly 252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP Earthquake Crunch Stealth Rock Stone Edge Suicune {Status Absorber} http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/suicune.png Suicune @ Leftovers Bold 252 HP/252 Def/6 Spe Surf HP Electric Rest Sleep Talk Weavile {The Wall Breaker} http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/salamence.png Weavile @ Life Orb Rash 120 Att/252 SpA/138 Spe Draco Meteor Fire Blast Brick Break Roost Feraligatr {The Physical Sweeper} http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/feraligatr.png Feraligatr @ Salac Berry Jolly 252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP Substitute Swords Dance Waterfall Return Deoxys-e {The Revenge Killer 2) http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/deoxyse.png Deoxys-e @ Life Orb Hasty 252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP Superpower Thunderbolt Ice Beam Psychic Breloom {The Physical Sweeper 2) http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/breloom.png Breloom @ Toxic Orb Adamant 252 Att/252 Spe/6 HP Focus Punch Seed Bomb Substitute Spore |
Ice Fang is no use anymore on Hippowdon with Garchomp in ubers. And an endless Sandstorm which nothing else on your team resists isn't that good of an idea.
I prefer 212 HP/120 Def/176 SpDef as RestTalk Milotic's EV spread. You get more defence to double and the SpDef after 176 does not much in particular HP EVs seem pointless on Weavile. Better with max speed. Has trouble with standards like you said, even CBTar now due to Aqua Tail. Not sure how to fix this becuase it seems to be a team with your favorites more than competitively brilliant 'mons. |
I'm gonna replace Hippowdon. I realized the complete brain relapse when I saw SubSalac Gatr and Hippowdon on paper ;_; Any suggestions? (I was thinking of Aero, not suicide, but meh)
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What about azelf for a lead? That all i can think of.
[email protected] Choice scarf U-turn Stealth rock Zen hedbutt Explotion/ if you dont want suicide maybe put ice punch or something like that |
Eh, I guess Azelf could work. I'm trying out ol' Aero for a while.
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I'm dissapointed by the lack of power rangers, those guys rules my childhood =]
Lack of fight resist and reliable walls is also regrettable, I can see machamp chewing through a lot of this. I'm tired and can't bring myself to do a full rate (Damn you jack daniels), I'll have a better look tomorrow. |
Quite a noob team.
Heracross pulls the SubSalac thing a lot better. That Suicune is stat up fodder. Weavile doesn't hit hard enough imo, but let's ignore that for the moment. Your entire team gets massacred by the common SD Scizor, even Suicune can't take on SD X-Scissor. Enjoy your death! ^__^ |
Don't see how that helps me, but thanks for taking time to look over it <3
By the way, Feraligatr is much cooler, and I've used Hera already. |
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To make it less phail, couldn't you add Machamp here? |
I've used Machamp very recently (and still am) so that'd destroy the purpose of this team =/
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That doesn't excuse the lack of Power Rangers.
But my bad, I didn't read the intro, I was too pissed from not seeing a pink ranger in a miniskirt, jerk. How popular is Haryiama? Or Hitmontop, for that matter? |
Using both currently (Yama on my Platinum and Top on my mixed tier team) =/
I should make the extra effort...and make this a power ranger theme... |
Wait...doesn't Breloom resist both Rock, Dark, AND Ground? Couldn't you give it Mach Punch & make it teh Green Rangah?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!1/1/!/1/1/1?!!?/
That'll hanlde Tar somewhat. |
Breloom already massacres all but DDTar (who, by the way, it raped by Deoxys-e) it comes in on Crunch and EQ (Stone Edge CAN 2HKO, so it's risky) and uses it as set up fodder.
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One other thing is to consider Sashing your lead Aerodactyl. It lets you get at least two attacks unless you are facing a fast scarfer or Hail-Inducer. All I can see now... Besides the Trick Room weak. If you don't use the Power Ranger Theme, I will. I'm warning you.... |
- 4 HP/ 252 Atk/ 252 Spd on Weavile the HP Evs really do not accomplish anything really, Smogon claims it can survive an Azelf's unboosted Flamethrower, which a 4 HP version can also do, however, Azelf nowadays have LO or Fire Blast. Allowing Weavile to be hit defeats its purpose anyway, and with 252/252 you can revenge kill other Weavile who run the Smogon standard. Besides that's how the current offensive metagame operates, might as wel jump on the bandwagon.
I apologize I'm short on time, however I dont think that Gatr nature and spread is going to work quite frankly, as well as max speed on a positive nature Deoxys, will provide alternatives in a later post. |
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For Deoxys, 96 Atk/ 252 S.Atk/ 160 Spd will probably be all it needs in terms of speed for beating Scarf Gengar, otherwise use 116 EVs to outspeed other Deoxys-e, it needs the Attack in my opinion.
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i honestly don't think that breloom would be a good choice.
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It's a great Pokemon. Spore+Focus Punch and Toxic Orb+Poison Heal are great Stategies only it can use. Smeargle can learn Spore+Focus Punch, but is better off BPing than attempting to sweep. "I honestly don't think" you know what you're talking about. ;/ |
Huge offensive Suicune weakness. Most of them blaze past breloom and your own Suicune and you just can't do anything to them. Raikou is similar, but a little less threatening really. Like Sya said, SD Scizor is going to cause a ton of problems as well. Deoxys-S is also a problem, and really you can't stop it reliably at all.
Realistically, I don't see Feraligatr pulling off a sweep. The metagame hits too fast and too hard and feraligatr isn't fast or powerful enough to sweep, even after a salac boost. It still falls to standard scarfgar and deoxys-s, two VERY common pokemon. I would use a more direct approach if you're using Feraaligatr. I don't really think the speed from salac helps him much, so you can use the standard SDer (though like subsalac, it's inferior Heracross really). Not really digging this one. There seems to be a lot of dead weight (like Breloom and Weavile...honestly don't see either one helping a whole lot). I would get rid of that and put in things that fill in your weaknesses. I'm hesitant to make too many changes since this seems to be more a a fun team (and yes I read that it's a serious team, but Feraligatr kind of gives off such an impression lol). Also Dunsparce, don't you think going "womg u don no wat ur talkin bout" is just a little uncalled for? I actually agree with him...Breloom isn't a great choice for this team that already has plenty of physical attackers, none of which can hit very hard or sweep much of anything. "I honestly think" that was a useless post. |
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your team is fine, if you are having some problems with cune and Zapdos try out something that can paralyze those threats such as blissey or porygon 2 but if you also have trouble with scizor then oven rotom can do a fine work in this team. (replace it with deoxys)
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Actually, Oven Rotom could REALLY work out. It counters Zapdos, Scizor, AND Suicune, right?
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Yeah, but you MAY have problems if scizor have pursuit. But at leat it doesnt OHKO you.
Then you could use this set: [email protected] Lefties Bold 252 HP/252 Def/6 Sp.Atk Light screen Discharge Overheat Reflect Or something like this. |
Eh, I need a status absorber, so if I'm using Oven Rotom, it'll be Rest-Talk.
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Overheat Rotom doesnt make a good ResTalker quite frankly, that S.Atk drop leaves it useless after one use.
If you want to counter said threats while still keeping that offensive feel in your team, then may I suggest a personal set I came up with? Rotom-h @ Choice Scarf Modest Nature (+S.Atk -Atk) 176 HP/ 124 S.Atk/ 208 Spd - Trick - HP Ground - Shadow Ball - Overheat Does quite a fantastic job at three things: revenge killing, tanking and crippling a wall. The S.Atk EVs are enough to guarantee a OHKO on Azelf and the Speed EVs allow it to outspeed Skymin with the Scarf, as well as making sure Luke doesnt beat you with an SD Crunch, as you can outspeed it before it can try it. The rest in HP for better switching in on things like Scizor. HP Ground is mainly for hitting the ever so common Heatran switch ins, and as a makeshift answer to Electivire. It's best if you look for a ResTalker in something else though |
Blegh, I'm not a fan of Trick, but that's still a very interesting set.
Sadly, I've been talking, and it seems a lot of people agree Weavile is a dead weight. |
That Rotom I suggested could take Weavile's place, as it roughly does the same thing,in terms of revenge killing, while providing useful resistances and counter for Scizor. Gatr and/or Breloom should be removed for better walls and a ResTalker.
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Losing both Gatr and Rotom leaves me only with Aero and Deoxys-e as true sweepers. That means I get destroyed by 100% of the metagame =/
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