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DonRoyale October 11th, 2008 6:21 PM

I'm The Metagame's Whipping Boy. (Shoddy RMT.)
 
Eh, the team in my first and newest log. This all seems just so standard.

The Team:
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http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/heatran.png
UH OH WHAT NOW (Heatran) @ Choice Scarf
Timid
EV's:252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP
-Fire Blast
-Earth Power
-HP Ice
-Stealth Rock

I saw Vance using it as a lead, thought "What the hell? Why not?". It works, to say the least. Standard poke is standard.

http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/lucario.png
LOL I DON'T FAIL (Lucario) @ Choice Band
Inner Focus
Adamant
EV's: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Defense
-Bullet Punch
-Close Combat
-Crunch
-Stone Edge

Meh, D_A's usually right about this stuff. Fackin' T-Tar. >=[


http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/blissey.png
There's Only One Word For This, It's Bliss (Blissey) @ Leftovers
Calm
EV's: 252 Defense, 80 Special Attack, 176 Special Defense
-Softboiled
-Flamethrower/Ice Beam
-Thunder Wave
-Seismic Toss

Standard wall that scares anything and everything with an impending Thunder Wave. Considering double status, but then again, with Scizor and Heatran at every corner...:S

http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/shaymin_sky.png
null (Skymin) @ Life Orb
Modest
EV's: 252 Special Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
-Air Slash
-Seed Flare
-Earth Power
-HP Ice
Standard metareaper is standard.

http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/rotomheat.png
BAM! (Rotom-h) @ Leftovers
Bold
EV's: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Special Attack
-Discharge
-Overheat
-Reflect
-Will-O-Wisp

Oven Rotom > DD Gyara, to help cope with other Gyarados and Kingdra. I think WoW works better than Shadow Ball, but I dunno, I might take it out for Shadow Ball if other Rotom become a problem. :S

http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/kingdra.png
I FAIL EVEN HARDER. (Kingdra) @ Liechi Berry
Swift Swim
Adamant
EV's: 4 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
-Dragon Dance
-Substitute
-Outrage
-Waterfall

Another standard SubDanceKingdra set. The only set Kingdra really even has these days. :S

I'm sorry if my explanations were lackluster, but these are 6 of the most overused Pokemon out there. Gengar is the only thing missing, but alas, only 6 slots in a team...

I do struggle with Kingdra, admittedly, though I've never faced it. An Outrage-locked Kingdra can be killed off desperately by Heatran's Explosion, provided there's no Sub up. Otherwise, Scizor will have to get in there and try its hand at breaking its Sub.

Thoughts?

. October 12th, 2008 1:33 AM

Pretty much your standard bread and butter team (with, lol, Skymin, Scizor, Heatran, AND Kingdra)

Don't see the point of both DD Kingdra AND DD Gyara, so I'd scrap Gyara (who is much more prepared for) And opting for something to act as a status absorber/tank/fighting resist. Rotom forms fill all three, so pick your poison.

Dark Azelf October 12th, 2008 6:10 AM

Put Stealth Rock on Heatran >> Explosion (Since SR actually does something productive) and then use Seismic Toss >> SR on your Blissey. Blissey without Seismic Toss is a fail useless outclassed by snorlax piece of garbage. It also stops you completely getting roffled at by Raikou, who seems to be increasing in use again. Aswell as other threats like Sub Petaya Torrent Empoleon etc.

Ive found Rotom's to be meh status absorbers since they have better things to be doing like supporting with reflect etc, so yeah a rest talk Snorlax could work here in Bliss's place if you want something so take said status.

Speaking of Tyranitar, here we go again "Nothing can take boosted stone edge or crunches on your team, you are t-tar weak". Bullet Punch Scizor CAN revenge kill it but it doesnt OHKO, you may want to invest in something to counter or serve as a check to it. Machamp, Hitmontop, Hariyama are counters and Lucario is a "check". Lucario may be better here however to not loose the "offense"and with that and Skymin (to revenge it after a dd) you should be able to cope.

[email protected] Band
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 DEF
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Bullet Punch
- Stone Edge / Ice Punch.
- Crunch

If you want something "similar" to scizor.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance (Post 4026320)
Pretty much your standard bread and butter team (with, lol, Skymin, Scizor, Heatran, AND Kingdra)

Don't see the point of both DD Kingdra AND DD Gyara, so I'd scrap Gyara (who is much more prepared for) And opting for something to act as a status absorber/tank/fighting resist. Rotom forms fill all three, so pick your poison.

I agree with this. Reflect Rotom can severely nerf your Kingdra weak, aswell as Gyarados weak. You have no answer to those two aforementioned pokemon, so yeah. DD Gyara and DD Kingdra do the same thing so both arnt needed. Rotom >> one of them. If you want to cut down your pokemon weak to SR (Along with Skymin), use Kingdra, otherwise use Gyarados since it hits harder. So its up to you...

But anyways : -

Rotom - [email protected]
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.ATT
Bold Nature
- Reflect
- Discharge
- Shadow Ball
- Overheat / Light Screen / Will-o-wisp

something like that.


Oh and on Heatran use Max speed/Max sp.att @Timid, this lets you revenge stuff better like Skymin, Scarf Heracross etc. (417 speed is WAY better than the 375 iirc that Modest grants >_<)

Spoiler:

SR Timid Scarf Heatran
S-Toss Bliss/ Rest Talk Snorlax
Rotom Alt
CB Lucario
DD Kingdra/DD Gyarados
LO Skymin

Just to recap on changes =p.




On a side note, can i change your RMT title to "I am the Metagame weak boy!" ? lol Just kidding ;).

Anyways good luck with the team.

DonRoyale October 12th, 2008 8:18 AM

Blah blah blah, smart friends are smart. Changes made to the team.

Thoughts now? :S

. October 12th, 2008 12:17 PM

I REALLY don't like Life Orb and Substitute. With SR damage AND Sandstorm included, you're losing a lot of health per turn. Consider Leftovers, or maybe even a pinch berry.

Dark Azelf October 12th, 2008 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance (Post 4028141)
I REALLY don't like Life Orb and Substitute. With SR damage AND Sandstorm included, you're losing a lot of health per turn. Consider Leftovers, or maybe even a pinch berry.

Whoops, i didnt notice that but yes. Leichi Berry works quite well from experience.

DonRoyale October 12th, 2008 1:19 PM

l-l-liechi a-go-go. :D

Done.
Anyone else have any thoughts?

DarkTyphlosion157 October 14th, 2008 9:50 AM

Darn, not much to comment on here, oh well...

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252 Def/40 SpAtk/216 SpDef as Blissey's EV spread. Ice Beam over Flamethrower.

On Rotom-H, put the SpAtk into Spd. Its the speed game y'know...

28 HP/252 Atk/228 Spd as Kingdra's EV spread, the extra speed doesn't do much from my experience
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