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My Team for Competitive Battling
Okay here is a standard team that I formed for competitive battling, after a bit of research and help from many people, here is what I have so far. Please feel free to suggest any changes and so forth...
http://www.freewebs.com/fyrecharizard/typhlosion.png Typhlosion @ Wide Lens Lonely Nature; 252 sp. atk/ 252 speed/ 6 sp. def Flamethrower Earthquake Will-O-Wisp Focus Blast http://wiki.pokeland.net/images/2/25/Mismagius.png Mismagius @ Leftovers Timid Nature; 160 sp. atk/ 252 speed/ 96 sp. def Shadow Ball Mean Look Perish Song Charge Beam http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/politoed.png Politoed @ Leftovers Calm Nature; 252 sp. atk/252 sp. def/6 HP Surf Psychic Swagger Ice Beam http://www.pokemoncharacters.com/images/pokemon/212scizor.gif Scizor @ Leftovers Careful Nature; 224 def/ 192 atk/ 80 sp. def/ 12 speed Iron Head Aerial Ace Swords Dance Roost http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/weavile.png Weavile @ Lum Berry Jolly Nature; 252 atk/ 252 speed/ 6 def Ice Punch Night Slash Brick Break Pursuit http://paoloscaruffi.altervista.org/pokemon/images/pokemon/Steelix.gif Steelix @ Focus Sash Careful Nature; 96 HP/ 160 atk/ 252 def Stone Edge Rock Polish Earthquake Explosion |
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Typhlosion @ Choice Scarf Rash 144 Atk / 252 SpA / 112 Spe -Eruption -Focus Punch -Hidden Power Ice -Overheat/WoW I always liked this standard Phlosion lead. Focus Punch for Blissey foolings :P Overheat for when Eruption is weakened. HP Ice for the new DDOutrage Mences. :) Scizor @ Life Orb [Technician] Adament 252 Attack / 234 HP / 24 Def -Swords Dance -Roost -Quick Attack / Bullet Punch (if you have plat) -X-Scissor / Brick Break This set is just WOW. Standard yes, but Scizor is made for DanceOrbTechnician. X-Scissor after 1 SD OHKO's cress, and QA after 1 SD does a great deal to mences and other things, where as Bullet Punch probably does mroe. but Mind you if you choose Bullet Punch Brick break is prefered for Heatran / magnezone switch ins who other wise wall the heck out of you. |
Ill allow this as i see it needs alot of help.
Alot of threats walk over you with little effort. But lets come to that later : - As a rule of thumb use Max hp ALWAYS on defensive pokes (there are a few exceptions, however that doesnt apply in this case), than means Max hp / max sp.def on Politoed. Will give you more overall durability than just max def and min hp. As for steelix...the thing is way too bulky for a Focus Sash and cant sweep. [email protected] / Shed Shell 252 HP / 252 SP.DEF / 6 DEF Relaxed / Impish Nature - Roar - Stealth Rock - Earthquake - Stone Edge / Toxic Wall ftw. Has enough physical defense, so invest in its sp.def to take hits from both sides. This also gives your team some MUCH needed support. Scizor would like this [email protected] Orb 224 HP / 252 ATT / 24 DEF Adamant Nature Trait : -Technician Use Quick attack >> Aerial Ace. As it is priority which your team lacks and it really powerful with Technician. If you have Platinum, feel free to use Bullet Punch + X-Scissor as attacking moves =). Weavile needs more Choice Band and Ice Shard >> ice Punch. for priority on all these Dragon Dancers and to an extenet, Skymin. I may come back for a better rate later. http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/ <-This website will help you to no end, you should check it. EDIT : Stricken covered most of it too =p. |
Okay I'm starting to get in the tone of all this...still a little confused on what to do at the moment, but I'm working on it.....maybe with a few more suggestions and ideas, I'll start to finally understand what I need to do. As for now, I'm a bit off track, but getting there...
I'm taking everyone's ideas and suggestions into thought as I go along with this...it really helps me out a lot... |
- Smogon's ScarfPhlo is rubbish. Everyone should know that >____>
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- PerishTrapping Mismagius needs much more defence here. Substitute over Charge Beam, max HP, Timid, no SpAtk is needed really to be honest, apart from the obvious 4 leftover EVs of course - I'll just let you know Politoed is rubbish in OU, and I'll leave it at that. - Adamant Scizor with Roost/X-Scissor/Bullet Punch/Swords Dance is far superior, also 252 Atk, not sure of speed number though - Ice Shard over Ice Punch and Choice Band over Lum Berry on Weavile. That is allogy. - That Steelix is ._. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Six Pokemon with sweeper movesets. Not a good idea. Commendation for using Typhlosion, though the rest of the team bar Weavile and Scizor could do with replacing for reliable defence. |
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Bullet Punch with X-Scissor is walled EASIER than QA/X-Scissor version <,<. And lol @ your ScarfLosion set, thats TERRIBLE. ScarfLeads NEED mixiness to take down counters. Which is why Fpunch is there, blisseys are all to common, as are laxes who FYI, have thick fat :o so they shurg off Eruption like it were nothing. Plus focus blast has LESS accuracy, therefore it's crap. Thats what McGar so special, he was able to hit blissey with physical hits, because she took his special assaults like it were nothing. And telling him that Politoad is rubbish in OU, is plain stupid. I used politoad in my standard team for a long time, and guess what? :o it won me a good deal of games. It's like people who told me my special defense Charm/Roar/Wish/Surf vaporeon was crap, but when it destroyed MixApes and other crap they weren't laughing then :D and just so you know JollySDVile does exist. |
Woah, woah, woah. Relax dude. For starters, this isn't even your team. Why are you getting so worked up over it. Two, what sort of right do you have to call his advice rubbish.
Accuracy = Doesn't make a move crap. Focus Blast is used on a lot of Pokemon, and going Mixed isn't the only solution to Typhlosion's coverage. So chill out and don't let this turn into a flamewar because I WILL infract people. |
I completely agree with Britney Spears this whole conflict that just happened is WAY off topic and just got me completely LOST...so can we please get back on topic because I can more than ever use the help right now...
plz and thank you |
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okay after a lot of consideration I feel like I'm starting to get somewhere, but I know work is still needed...So far here is what I have after taking a lot of your suggestions and putting them as one...please tell me what I still need to work on and I'll start working up a plan again...I'm thankful for all your help and I wish for them to keep coming...so, please tell me what you think...
Team in Progress: Typhlosion @ Wide Lens Modest Nature; 252 sp. atk/ 252 speed/ 6 sp. def Flamethrower Hidden Power (Ice) Focus Blast Will-O-Wisp I really feel like this moveset is really going to help me out a lot...but if you want please feel free to leave your remarks and suggestions... Politoed @ Leftovers Calm Nature; 204 sp. atk/ 252 sp. def/ 48 HP Surf Psychic Hidden Power (Grass) Ice Beam Politoed I believe is not rubbish and it is capable of doing anything another pokemon can...I would really like to keep Psychic for all poison types as well as fighting types...Ice beam can also affect a lot of other pokemon as well. Surf has great accuracy and Hidden Power (grass) is great other water, rock, ground, etc. Mismagius @ Leftovers Timid Nature; 96 HP/ 160 sp. atk/ 252 speed Shadow Ball Mean Look Perish Song Charge Beam Charge beam, a lot of you say to trash it, but I kept looking deeper into this, and I realized that not a single pokemon on this team has electrical moves. Also with Charge Beam's ability to raise my sp. atk I think that gives Mismagius a great advantage for its stats...I took many of your suggestions and decided to go and raise Mismagius EV spread for HP instead of using it for my sp. def. Scizor @ Life Orb Careful Nature; 252 atk/ 252 speed/ 6 def X-Scissor Roost Swords Dance Aerial Ace Ah yes, this Scizor a very tricky one to deal with, but I stuck it out with Aerial Ace since bullet punch can't be taught to Scizor in Pokemon Diamond. Also, I went along and decided to go with X-Scissor since many of you suggested that move and decided to boost my speed EV instead so I still have a chance of using Swords Dance and attacking next turn as long as I am faster...oh yeah, and with Technician Aerial Ace's power shall also become stronger too... Weavile @ Choice Band Adamant Nature; 252 atk/ 252 speed/ 6 def Ice Shard Night Slash Brick Break Pursuit With an easy decision I decided to cut off Ice Punch and go with Ice Shard...I've also kept mostly everything the same with Weavile.... Steelix @ Leftovers Impish Nature; 252 HP/ 252 sp. def/ 6 def Stone Edge Toxic Earthquake Stealth Rock I decided to raise Steelix's EV spread in HP and sp. def instead as naturally Steelix comes with great Defence...and I edited two moves and added Toxic and Stealth Rock instead... |
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Will-o-the-Wisp is a subpar move on Typhlosion really, plus sitting at 299 speed isn't something you really want to be doing. You're better of with ScarfPhlo or SubPunchPhlo really, this one is too slow and weak
Politoed is flat out awful at sweeping to be honest. Starmie does that particular set far better, as do Vaporeon and Suicune. You really are best with a staller-toad of a sort of you really want to use it. Perish Trapping Mismagius still needs much more defence here, if you want to go offensive then CM Mage is the way to go. I'm not understanding the Careful nature on Scizor on a sweeper set. Weavile HAS to be Jolly. Not Adamant. Never Adamant. And Steelix I never had an idea of. |
I agree with Kid on keeping Charge Beam. Nothing else is going to do hat much to Gyarados, and Gyara has no response to Magius unless it has Bite.
I say Quick Attack>> Something on Scizor, finishes off those kills you barely miss. Psychic isn't rlly needed on Politoed. I'm guessing this isn't Platinum, so Hypnosis can still do something for Politoed. Typhlo pretty much covered everythin else. |
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Your kidding right ? Waterfall OHKO's it and probably everything else on a Gyarados set bar EQ would aswell lol =/. A better idea would be to replace Politoed with a BETTER bulky water to counter Gyarados with HP Electric See : - Vaporeon, Suicune, Milotic etc . are all great examples. |
Politoed coulde be replaceable.
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Meanwhile, if Gyara comes in with SR up, Magius with same EVs gets a guaranteed 2HKO w/ Charge Beam. 46.99%-55.12% |
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To avoid confusing the OP, a SE Bite does the exact same amount as a neutral Waterfall.
Politoed I would replace with Vaporeon IMO, it gives this team a reliable Gyara counter and also provides Wish Support. Team still needs more reliable defence though, Vaporeon doesn't counter a massive amount, and the team is still weak to things like Tyranitar and Salamence. I would prefer if the OP edited the first post IMO, lets us raters know what advice he's taking. |
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