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Help my team!
Hey I'm making a new team and need some serious rating. OK, here it goes.
Dophan - Leftovers Nature:Impish Evs:252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def -Rapid Spin -EarthQuake -Ice Shard -Stealth Rock [email protected] Scarf Nature:Modest Evs: 252 Sp. atk/252 Speed Shadow Ball Hidden Power (Ice) ThunderBolt Focus Blast [email protected] Sash Nature:Adament Evs: 252 Atk/252 Speed Thunder Punch Ice Punch Cross Chop Earthquake [email protected] Belt Nature:Adament Evs: 252 Atk/252 Speed Blaze Kick Thunder Punch Fire Punch Close Combat [email protected] Glasses Nature:Modest Evs: 252 Sp. atk/252 Speed Dark Pulse Psychic Aura Sphere Dragon Pulse [email protected] Nature:Careful Evs:252 HP/144 Atk/114 Sp. def -Sucker Punch -Pursuit -Pain Split -Will-O-Wisp I appreciate all help. |
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yeah donphan has def ev's. that was a big mistype. i also added the natures. thought i had those there. thanks for the advice i appreciate it.
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I would switch Donphan/Gengar for Gar' leading.
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Just helped with the movesets. I'll do more rating when I finish eating. |
is there any way to keep gengar modest? or will it be quite detremental to my team? i dont have a way to get a timid one.
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Get Timid by breeding it with another Gengar/Haunter/Ghastly or Ditto Until you geet Timid natured Ghastly and then train that up. |
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- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Gengar should run Timid to outspeed Deoxys-S here. Physical Vire is too easily walled, and Expert Belt as item should you somehow want to keep it. Also no Electric weaks mean this guy is in the wrong team sadly Mix Infernape up. SpecsLuke is outclassed by MixLuke. Use that instead. Use Spiritomb as lead. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Lack of a RestTalker and a special wall worries me how this team will fare somewhat. Gyara weakness is present, add Kingdra onto the list if this is for Shoddy. Also this team has trouble with Skymin as Scizor if for Shoddy as well. Get rid of Electivire for something like Rotom-H and you should be fine better. |
Actually I have a lead Donphan with 252 sp. defense, he's a great lead pokemon because he offers a lot of support and allows him to set up with out Sruf or GK taking him down
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I planed to use rotom-H, but i do not have platnium. that is definatly and add in after i get it but there is nothing i can really do now. any suggestions to replace vire for something more effective?
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What i would suggest is dropping donphan since it does nothing for this team as you dont require a spinner (and because spinners suck outside of stall anyway) id use standard Lum Zong >>it. [email protected] Berry 252 HP /74 ATT / 110 DEF / 74 SP.DEF Relaxed Nature Trit : Levitate - Gyro Ball - Earthquake - Hypnosis - Stealth Rock This would give you a better lead. Specs Lucario plox. [email protected] specs 252 sp.att / 252 speed / 6 def Modest Nature - Vacuum Wave - Aura Sphere - Hidden Power Ice - Shadow Ball This gives your team a check to tar along with zong and allows you to nab stuff with priority. Next, foe sd lucario and other fighters are a pain for you i suggest a bulky dd roost mence >> tomb who does nothing for this team: - [email protected] 224 hp / 12 att / 192 def / 80 speed Jolly Nature - Dragon Dance - Dragon Claw - Roost - Earthquake You also lack a switch in to Heatran and Gyarados (sure you can revenge it with gar but meh, having to sacrifice something each time is comes in is bad) so try this >> ape or vire : - [email protected] 188 hp / 252 def / 70 sp.def bold nature - hidden power electric - surf - wish - protect also supports you team with wish SO : - Lum Zong specs luke ape or vire dd bulky roost mence scarf gar vappy petty much. EDIT : And vire wants a life orb with Fire Punch >>EQ so your not complete zong/forry fodder xp. |
Your team is ground weak my friend. If gengar is out for the count this gives you problems. I would suggest roserade because of its speed, high special attack and it's pretty cool. Replace it with electivire cuz its slow n sucks eggs.
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Roserade's slower than Electivire o_o
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Bronzong @ Leftovers
252 HP / 86 Att / 80 Def / 92 Special Def Sassy Nature ~Hypnosis ~Stealth Rock ~Earthquake ~Gyro Ball Might help the team a tad. Since Donphan isnt really accomplishing much so Bronzong is going to come in and save the day. Standard. Lum zong works as well. Your Gengar is ok. Lucario @ Life Orb 252 Att / 252 Speed / 4 HP Adamant ~Swords Dance ~Bullet Punch ~Close Combat ~Crunch Swords Dance to boost his 110 base attack stat. Close Combat for STAB and Crunch to complete the unresisted Dark/fighting. Bullet Punch to knock out speedy foes: Weavile, Aerodactyl, Gengar, Mismagious, Deoxy-s and Tyranitar (if it's the DD and/or scarf version as CC will deal with anything else) Electivire @ Expert Belt 76 Att / 252 Special Att / 180 Speed Mild ~Thunderbolt ~Flamethrower ~Hidden Power [Ice] ~Cross Chop Mixvire ftw, hits the appropriate pokemons in there weak stats. Tbolt has a larger damage output then tpunch. Flamthrower hits peesky steels. HP Ice for bulky grounds ie Hippowdon and Cross Chop for Blissey and friends.(Ttar for an added bonus) |
ok. so the way i see it, i will have to change 3 pokemon completely, so this is what i was thinking, after looking at all the posts
Bronzong @ Leftovers 252 HP / 86 Att / 80 Def / 92 Special Def Sassy Nature ~Hypnosis ~Stealth Rock ~Earthquake ~Gyro Ball Gengar @ Choice Scarf Nature:Modest/timid(if possible) Evs: 252 Sp. atk/252 Speed Shadow Ball Hidden Power (Ice) ThunderBolt Focus Blast Electivire @ Life Orb Nature:Adament Evs: 252 Atk/252 Speed Thunder Punch Ice Punch Cross Chop Fire Punch Vaporeon @ leftovers 188 hp / 252 def / 70 sp.def bold nature - hidden power electric - surf - wish - protect [email protected] specs 252 sp.att / 252 speed / 6 def Modest Nature - Vacuum Wave - Aura Sphere - Dragon Pulse - Shadow Ball Salamence @ leftovers 224 hp / 12 att / 192 def / 80 speed Jolly Nature - Dragon Dance - Dragon Claw - Roost - Earthquake Thanks again for all the help |
Scrap Vire, or at least use MixVire. Physical Vire isn't gonna do you that much good.
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My MixVire set which works pretty good is....
Electiver @ Expert Belt (or LO w/e you prefer) Rash/Naive 252 Attack / 176 speed / 76 Sp. Attack Flame thrower Ice Punch Tbolt Cross Chop It served mainly as a wall breaker, but I found it to be very Electivre weak in his own. Some one could probably re-edit that set and give you a better Mixvire set. but thats just one I made. It worked wonders, after a Tbolt boost (i usually buckled him with gyara) it was one hell of a wall breaker. |
If your using this on a Platinum server, then I wouldn't recommend Hypnosis on Zong due to its 60%. If you want a good sleeper, I would go with the following set:
Breloom @ Toxic Orb Adamant/Jolly Nature- Poison Heal 252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP Spore Protect Mach Punch Stone Edge This thing stops Tyranitar, Heatran, and Gyara cold. Protects to scout for sleep, while Toxic Orb activates, giving you nice recovery- and a status absorber. Dragon Pulse on Luke is meh.. I prefer HP Ice. Also, Focus Blast>> Aura Sphere. |
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