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RespectfullyDesired October 23rd, 2008 6:46 PM

The thought to counter Platinum and another 2 hours... (Not Tested)
 
The Team:

http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa376.pnghttp://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa145.pnghttp://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpffa/dpffa242.pnghttp://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa051.pnghttp://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa373.pnghttp://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa297.png

http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/metagross.png

Metagross@Lum Berry
Clear Body
252 atk/252 hp/6 SpD
Adamant
- Meteor Mash
- Stealth Rock
- Thunder Punch
- Bullet Punch

My attempt at my own "Anti" lead. 252 hp evs survives a Gyarados' Earthquake, Azelfs' Flamethrower, Salamences' Earthquake, and many more survival skills. Meteor Mash is just there for the wreckless STAB and power. Stealth Rock is replacing ice punch due to not a lot of dragons being leads, plus roserade would switch out of metagross anyway. Thunder Punch is mainly for Gyarados, and I'm not sure on Subing to ferther my sweeping possiblities, but Bullet Punch takes out Aero and Azelf. Oh, and Lum berry is basically for Yanmega's Hypnosis, and the occasional Gengar too. I needed more of a steel type than Machamp due to Scizor sweeping my team in the past. Plus, who doesn't love Metagross?

http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/zapdos.png
Zapdos@Choice scarf
Pressure
252 hp/252 def/6 Spe
Bold
- HP ice
- T-Bolt
- Heat wave
- U-Turn

Zapdos is 100% Scizor counter. I couldn't stand how many times Dancing Scizor has sweeped me with super power and Bullet Punch. Roost is for recovery, T-Bolt is for STAB, and heat wave is just a little suprise for scizor. Thunder wave is just support for the team, we will probably need it, especially for Outraging Salamences', and other new physical threats. Scarf is for outrunning Ddance gyara after one dance.

http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/blissey.png
Blissey@Leftovers
Natural Cure
252 def/176 def/76 SAtk
Bold
- Ice Beam
- Wish
- Softboiled
- Toxic

I'm sorry to cut the originality in this team folks, but I'm really lazy to get a new special wall/new version of Blissey in this team, but wish support does really well, and Thunder Wave/Toxic support can help out a lot too. Softboiled is just for quick recovery while wish is for other mates. I feel weird just throwing this out there in the open while i've worked on strategy with my other pokemon. Oh well, Blissey is Blissey. Someone has to take on Shaymin-S, eh?


http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/dugtrio.png
Duggy@Choice Band
Arena Trap
252 atk/252 spe/4 hp
Jolly
- Stone Edge
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Sucker Punch/Night Slash

I'm SO glad I get to keep this thing! It's awesome as a revenge killer, and takes out heracross. Jolly > Adamant just to trap more things and kill more, whilst Band > Orb cause I could probably just predict my way out of Tyranitars' Banded pursuit. I can't decide on sucker punch or night slash, Sucker Punch is basically for situations when I know my Dugtrio isn't needed anymore and I know 100% the opposing pokemon is faster than my dugtrio, or that night slash could help me take down cress and azelf down easier, just because this team isn't more focused on those pokes. This pokemon was pretty much needed to stop physical sweepers in their tracks, and to not be heracross weak. Almost everyone is Hera-weak. Anyway, it's a really fun pokemon.

http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/salamence.png
Salamence@Choice Specs
Intimidate
252 SAtk/252 Spe/6 hp
Modest
- Flamethrower
- Hydro Pump
- Draco Meteor
- Dragon Pulse

No one ever expects specsmence anymore, so I guess I'm sneaking in for the kill. There is AWESOME coverage in this set, and it's basically 100% standard. I already have ways to kill Blissey, so this guy does great for me on the special offensive side. I'm not sure if Scarfran, an arch nemesis, could break specsmence, and if not, it could be an offensive "counter".

http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/hariyama.png
Haryiama@Leftovers
Thick Fat
252 def/180 atk/72 hp
Impish
- Knock Off
- Force Palm
- Whirlwind
- Ice Punch

I'm not really sure what I'm doing, but this guy seemed right. My team weaknesses was as listed: Fire, Ground, Ice, Rock, and Water. He seemed great to be sporting item knocking off, hazing, Ice support, and some more para support whilst having Thick Fat to cover most fire/ice attacks, and having decent HP can help a lot too.


Alright, thats my team. Some of it i'm unsure of it, and I haven't really tried using it, but im relying on you guys. thanks.






DarkTyphlosion157 October 24th, 2008 5:21 AM

You DO know Zapdos got Heat Wave in Platinum right?

Dark Azelf October 24th, 2008 5:23 AM

Meta would LOVE Stealth Rock possibly >> one of the elemental punches. Ive found Bullet Punch in that last slot more useful too, especially vs suicide leads. Also consider the ev spread 208 HP / 76 Atk / 224 Sp.D , which allows for more survivability vs common leads (surviving a timid specs tran overheat is fun too ;))

Also why hp fire on zappy when it gets Heat wave !?!. Speaking of which i would probably scarf zappy because if Life Orb Gyarados gets in a dd it OHKO's your entire team. (U-turn/t-bolt/hp ice or grass/Heat wave) this would at least allow you to revenge kill it as well as some other threats.

I put the attack evs in sp.def on my Hari, it seems to make it last longer but meh.

Id be careful of kingdra. You CAN deal with it, but it will cause alot of pain should it set up.

DarkTyphlosion157 October 24th, 2008 1:18 PM

No Heatrans use Overheat.

Dark Azelf October 24th, 2008 1:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkTyphlosion157 (Post 4062985)
No Heatrans use Overheat.

?.

Ive actually seen some use it whilst laddering, but w/e "The evs allow you to survive a Fire Blast/Overheat from Timid Specs Tran".

RespectfullyDesired October 24th, 2008 3:33 PM

Alright, a lot of changes made.

Is this team worth making on pearl?

Dark Azelf October 24th, 2008 3:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RespectfullyDesired (Post 4063304)
Alright, a lot of changes made.

Is this team worth making on pearl?

[email protected] Scarf
252 SP.ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 HP
Timid Nature
- Heat Wave
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power Ice
- U-Turn


Is what i meant =p.

Aurafire October 24th, 2008 7:49 PM

I use explosion on my lead Meta...It's up to you, but It works quite well and will almost always surprise your opponent.

This team looks very solid though. I can't say I've ever used Hariyama, but that looks like a cool set. I cant find many weaknesses. But yeah, watch out for Kingdra like D_A said.

Otherwise, I'll say very nice =P

RespectfullyDesired October 25th, 2008 11:10 AM

Thanks! I just used this team and it turned out great! thanks dudes.

Lucky 1276 October 25th, 2008 4:55 PM

Sucker punch is really worth much more than night slash will ever be. So maybe you should keep sucker punch. But I really don't know why dugtrio learns sucker punch in the first place..it doesn't even have arms...or does it?


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