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LethalTexture October 24th, 2008 7:16 AM

O Look D_A it's another mediocre RMT
 
Lost my enthusiasm for the game recently but I want to get it back. So that's why I've been playing around on Shoddy and made some revisions. I want this team to go Wi-Fi eventually so Platinum metagame it is. Here goes nothing.

Bronzong @ Leftovers/Lum Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 216 HP/202 Def/92 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Reflect/Hypnosis

Generic lead, still undecided about the 4th Move and in turn the item. I played around with the EVs a bit but I think they may still need work.
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Salamence @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 82 Atk/176 Spd/252 SAtk
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake/Stone Edge
- Dragon Claw

Kingdra counter. Hopefully there's enough EVs in speed to come in on a DD and still outspeed and OHKO with DM. If there are surplus EVs in Speed I can invest in Attack then please let me know, as I'm unsure of what speed the standard Kingdra will reach. Stone Edge is an option over EQ to help deal with Gyarados.
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Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Ice Punch/Something else?
- Crunch
- Swords Dance

The humble SDLuke. Still unsure of the second attack, as I feel Ice Punch is redundant on this.
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Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 156 HP/102 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Pursuit

This helps deal with Rotom. EVs give 500 HP with 250+ in both defences, coupled with 421 Attack means this thing could do some damage.
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Machamp @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP/144 Atk/114 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dynamicpunch
- Payback/Fire Punch
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Status absorber, Payback to help against Psychics. Considering Fire Punch for Scizor.
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Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 42 HP/252 Def/216 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy/Something else

Is Aromatherapy redundant in this while I have Machamp? If so, change plzkthnx. Bold Blissey has served me well in the past and I'm inclined to stick.
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I know about the glaring Fighting weak, which is why I may replace Blissey with something else. All critisism accepted, still not too familiar with the Platinum metagame as of yet.

Dark Azelf October 24th, 2008 8:08 AM

Quote:

O Look D_A it's another mediocre RMT
Yes, i can see that lol.



Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanoDance (Post 4062295)

Bronzong @ Macho Brace
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 216 HP/202 Def/92 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Trick

Sleep leads are really uncommon in platinum thanks to the accuracy drop. Trick @macho brace is fun.

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Salamence @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 82 Atk/176 Spd/252 SAtk
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake/Stone Edge
- Dragon Claw

w/e

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Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Bullet Punch / Extremespeed
- Crunch / Ice Punch

- Swords Dance

jolly is redundant, sure it was helpful when people tried using it to outrun mence and gliscor and what not, but the aformentioned pokes use + speed natures anyway now since they have caught on. Also without adamant the power loss is quite noticable. The priority is also uberly helpful.
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Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 156 HP/102 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Pursuit

sure...
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Machamp @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP/144 Atk/114 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dynamicpunch
- Payback/Fire Punch
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

k
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Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 80 sp.att/252 Def/176 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled
- Flamethrower / Ice Beam

Is Aromatherapy redundant in this while I have Machamp? yes.

Bold also helps less than calm =]

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Comments in bold.

Well you cant do anything to Gyarados bar stone edge which wont ohko. Maybe you could shove hidden power elecric in on that mence set somewhere so you can at least revenge kill it....

StrickeN October 24th, 2008 8:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanoDance (Post 4062295)
Lost my enthusiasm for the game recently but I want to get it back. So that's why I've been playing around on Shoddy and made some revisions. I want this team to go Wi-Fi eventually so Platinum metagame it is. Here goes nothing.

Bronzong @ Leftovers/Lum Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 216 HP/202 Def/92 SDef
Sassy nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock
- Reflect/Hypnosis

Generic lead, still undecided about the 4th Move and in turn the item. I played around with the EVs a bit but I think they may still need work.
---
Salamence @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 82 Atk/176 Spd/252 SAtk
Rash nature (+SAtk, -SDef)
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Earthquake Stone Edge is really only for fliers and other dragons. Which with HP electric and Draco, you have covered any way.
- HP Electric
The EV's are... pretty decent. Scarf you dont' need Dclaw, as you already have Draco Meteor. I understand with SpecsMence, you generally run Dpulse, as well, but you are extremely weak to Gyara, and coming in on a DD, you still won't KO with Stone Edge. Due to no attack nature, and 82 attack EV's. HP electric will be a much better attack to cover this.
Kingdra counter. Hopefully there's enough EVs in speed to come in on a DD and still outspeed and OHKO with DM. If there are surplus EVs in Speed I can invest in Attack then please let me know, as I'm unsure of what speed the standard Kingdra will reach. Stone Edge is an option over EQ to help deal with Gyarados.
---
Lucario @ Life Orb
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6 HP
Adament [+Attack, -Sp. Attack
- Close Combat
- Extremespeed / Bullet Punch
- Crunch/Ice Punch/Bullet Punch
- Swords Dance
Never get rid of your Priority with Lucario. Adament nature insures you OHKO a large chunk of walls in the metagame. Pre-Platinum, it was usually Crunch/Stone edge which were questioned as they both covered different switch-ins. Stone edge for Dragons/Bulky Fliers, and Crunch was for Ghosts. Well now that we have Ice Punch, we don't really have a need for that low accuracy chance of losing the match. Bullet Punch, does effectivally the same thing, WITH added priority.
The humble SDLuke. Still unsure of the second attack, as I feel Ice Punch is redundant on this.
---
Snorlax @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 156 HP/102 Atk/252 Def
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Crunch
- Body Slam
- Earthquake
- Pursuit
lol sure
This helps deal with Rotom. EVs give 500 HP with 250+ in both defences, coupled with 421 Attack means this thing could do some damage.
---
Machamp @ Leftovers
Ability: No Guard
EVs: 252 HP/144 Atk/114 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Dynamicpunch
- Ice Punch
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
This is to keep your friendly fliers/Dragons from jumping in and lol'ing @ how little damage you do.
Status absorber, Payback to help against Psychics. Considering Fire Punch for Scizor.
---
Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs:80 sp. att / 252 Defense / 176 Sp. Def
Calm

- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled
- Aromatherapy/Ice Beam
You might consider Ice beam over Aroma, but thats negotiable. Calm nature is best for Aroma's, and Blissey doesn't take physical hits reguardless. 252 Defense is a must.
Is Aromatherapy redundant in this while I have Machamp? If so, change plzkthnx. Bold Blissey has served me well in the past and I'm inclined to stick.
---

I know about the glaring Fighting weak, which is why I may replace Blissey with something else. All critisism accepted, still not too familiar with the Platinum metagame as of yet.

Comments in Bold, I mainly agreed with a lot of D_A's suggestions.


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