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US Elections 2008: The Results, Voting Experience and Consequences
It's the last week of this Historic US Election everyone. I seriously love history for some reason. ^_^
Now as the title suggests this thread will be about the results (Please post them up when it comes up on Nov. 5 'cuz I don't have time D=) Your Voting experience (Talk about your voting problems, use Youtube, etc.) and the Ramifications of this election's results. Keep the debates and mud-slinging on the debate thread ok? =D I'll try... Election results U.S. President - Electoral College http://www.google.com/images/news_check.gifObama (D) - 364 McCain (R) - 162 270 votes needed for presidency Popular vote - 50 states reporting Candidates % Votes McCain (R) 46% 56,712,551 http://www.google.com/images/news_check.gifObama (D) 52% 64,385,746 Barr (L) 0% 492,182 Nader (AI) 1% 664,127 U.S. Senate - 35 seats contested http://www.google.com/images/news_check.gifDemocrats - 18 Republicans - 14 Net change: +6 Democrats U.S. House of Rep. - 435 seats contested http://www.google.com/images/news_check.gifDemocrats - 254 Republicans - 173 Net change: +21 Democrats Final PC Election Poll Results: Democratic Party (Obama/Biden...Your Democratic Congressman/Senator) 98 62.42% Republican Party (McCain/Palin...Your Republican Congressman/Senator) 32 20.38% Third Party (Green, Liberatarian, Peace & Freedom...etc.) 8 5.10% I'm disillusioned. It's all campaign rhetoric I won't even bother to vote... 19 12.10% Results of the Global Poll done by Reader's Digest: ^_^ http://technoqueen.smugmug.com/photos/406804131_9gogQ-L.jpg And this Poll was done BEFORE the Economic Crisis of 2008. I hate it when I see comments like: "Who cares what other countries think" Seriously when the people who can't look past what happens past their noses, see how interdependent the world is due to Globalization. I would be like "sad....sad...sad..." For now let's talk about this: 7 Things that can go wrong in this election (Time) I think that we seriously need a National Voting Standard. Something like my home-country the Philippines' Commision on Elections (COMELEC) with a non-partisan internal vote-checker such as NAMFREL which is composed of the masses. Oh and also please recommend a poll that I should put up after the US Elections. ^_^ |
I agree, it's so ridiculous that there are seperate voting regulations in each state. I mean, this is an election that effects the entire country. This is the exact same problem that George Washington faced with all the Federal/State goverment conficts a couple of years after America became independent.
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I believe a lot of things should be decided at the state level, yet voting stuff gets complicated X_x..
Either way I'll be voting next Tuesday at my HS. ^_^ Wheee. You scared me; I saw the PC election poll thing and thought it was a national poll. I was like O_O!?!!?! |
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Wellll... the PC Election Poll IS an International one since PC is based on the World Wide Interwebs. ^_^ |
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Also Always Look on the Bright Side of Life (Newsweek) |
hmm maybe during election day ill post up results state by state for presidental results which is just as well since pratically EVERY SINGLE PUBLIC (and how can i forget MSNBC, CNN and the like....) NETWORK will be showing the same results!!!
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Nightmare on the White House!
Last Week end you guys! 'till election day (Nov.4) Watch SNL at night k? >_<
Anyways a great article from Neewsweek Magazine on the Nightmare the next President will inherit on January. Nightmare in Pennsylvania Ave (Excerpt) MEMORANDUM TO: The president-elect RE: Foreign policy FROM: Richard N. Haass, President of the Council on Foreign Relations There are only two and a half months—76 days, to be precise— between Election Day and your Inauguration, and you will need every one of them to get ready for the world you will inherit. This is not the world you've been discussing on the trail for the last year or more: campaigning and governing could hardly be more different. The former is necessarily done in bold strokes and, to be honest, often approaches caricature. All candidates resist specifying priorities or trade-offs lest they forfeit precious support. You won, but at a price, as some of the things you said were better left unsaid. Even more important, the campaign did not prepare the public for the hard times to come. There will be days when you will wonder why you worked so hard to get this job. What will make it so difficult is not just all that awaits, but the constraints that will limit what you can actually do. When George W. Bush became president nearly eight years ago the world was largely at peace, the U.S. military was largely at rest, oil was $23 a barrel, the economy was growing at more than 3 percent, $1 was worth 116 yen, the national debt was just under $6 trillion and the federal government was running a sizable budgetary surplus. The September 11 attacks, for all they cost us as a nation, increased the world's willingness to cooperate with us. You, by contrast, will inherit wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, tired and stretched armed forces, a global struggle with terrorism, oil that has ranged as high as $150 a barrel, a weaker dollar (now worth 95 yen), substantial anti-American sentiment, a federal budget deficit that could reach $1 trillion in your first year, a ballooning national debt of some $10 trillion and a global economic slowdown that will increase instability in numerous countries. You will take office two decades after the end of the cold war. What some dubbed the unipolar moment is history. Economic, political and military power is held by many hands, not all of which belong to states, not all of which are benign. This does not mean the United States is weak. To the contrary, this country is still the single most powerful entity in the world. But the United States cannot dominate, much less dictate, and expect that others will follow. There are limits to U.S. resources; at the same time the country has serious vulnerabilities. Enron, Abu Ghraib, Katrina and the financial crisis have taken their toll: America's ability to tell others what to do, or to persuade them through example, is much diminished. Against this backdrop, you will face specific challenges. Many are to be found in the greater Middle East, the part of the world where every president beginning with Jimmy Carter has stubbed his toe. Consider Iraq, the issue that most dominated the foreign policy of Bush. There will be ample time for historians to sort out the wisdom (or lack thereof) of embarking on this costly war of choice. The priorities now are to gradually reduce U.S. force presence, back the integration of Iraq's Sunni minority into national institutions, persuade Arab states to help the government and resume a dialogue with Iran on Iraq's future. The good news is that many of the arrows in Iraq are finally pointing in the right direction and it will not dominate your presidency. The bad news is that you know you are in for a rough ride when Iraq is the good news. --------------Continued on Link above------------- There are a lot of problems for the future. I hope the American People choose wisely and may we as humans weather this storm... |
Ok so who ever gets elected will have to inherit the problems we have right now..its just how they handle it that we will judge them for
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I'm Canadian, but seriously, my mom won't shut up about this election.
The attack ads against the Democratic campaign are ridiculous, but even more ridiculous is the fact that so many people buy it. Information like "Obama's a Muslim, he's going to bring terrorism blah blah blah", and other uncalled-for racist and generally conservative comments about Obama and the camp are just insane, and anyone who believes such nonsense is inherently insane. The decision of which candidate you should vote for should rest on the strength of the candidate's platform, not the candidate who wins the "he said, she said" debate, and certainly not the ethnic background of the candidate. Personally, I'm all for Obama. He works from the lower-class citizens and makes his way to the higher-class citizens, while McCain is doing the opposite. [b]The last thing rich snobs need is more money. They have enough; the wealth should be shared amongst the people, not hoarded among a select few who, while I will argue can make some more benefitial uses of it, for the most part, will use it to further their own selfish ambitions, rather than sharing the wealth around the selfless, lower-class people who don't give a damn about who has the biggest house or the most money. I seriously hope Obama wins this election. Frankly, if he doesn't, I give McCain two years at the most before he croaks of old age and Palin takes office. When that happens...pfft, good freakin' luck, America. :S |
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I am also Canadian, and I also support Obama. I never really thought of this before, but after seeing the image on the first page, I must admit that all of my non-American friends support Obama. Though my dad thinks McCain will win based solely on the fact that he thinks Americans won't vote for a black man. I disagree with him. I am hoping Obama will win mainly because he is left-wing, to put it simply. And besides that I'll have to admit I'd be voting against McCain more than for Obama if I could. I really think you guys need a new face in the oval office though, heh. I feel he's going to change the country for the better. Right now I get the feeling that most non-Americans think negatively of Americans. I've heard countless times that when some Americans go to Europe, they pretend to be Canadians. Given those numbers in the first post, Obama might be someone able to slow that a bit. |
Lol look at that. Every other country in the world wants us to vote Obama. Doesn't that tell you something?? Here, in the United Stupid of America (as Bill Maher says), there are so many uneducated people who really have no idea what's going on around them. Instead, their outlook is, "I believe in Gawd, and I am 100% loyal to this great country! I am goin' to show my patriotism by votin' McCain. He be a gud mayn. He wants ta win dis here war."
>.> People. Know what? 9/11? Yeah. What do you think that was? That plane wasn't even real! It didn't even have windows on it lol. That was a poor excuse for America to "go to war" with Iraq, since our government realized we wouldn't have enough oil to support us any longer. How else could we get it? We're a war nation with Bush as President. So, why not just steal it? But that's wrong. Our people would hate our nation if we just went over there and took it. What about if we say that they attacked us!? Then we'd have a good reason to bomb the heck out of them! Well, sheesh. Ugh. Get these Republican idiots out of office. |
In this moment of economic crisis, it would be better to aim at a political management type democrat (the economic crisis, has been caused after all by a republican management).
Being European, I feel me few of part on this matter. |
I wouldn't go that far. I agree that some people would go to great lengths to get what they want, but that's the lives of nearly 3000 people we're talking about. I refuse to say that was anything other than a terrorist attack that actually happened. There is no debate in my opinion, so I'll leave it at that.
What the attacks did do, however, was trigger the start of the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. As for Iraq, I agree with your other points on it. However, I still think it was a good idea to invade there. The problem I have is the reason they did it, which is not the reason I would have liked it to have been. |
I agree with Zam on that..don't be ridiculous. No government, especially not one as sane and evolved (contrary to popular belief we are those things XD) as the United States' would do something so horrible as kill that many innocent lives just to go to war. That doesn't even make any sense. Don't try to bring up conspiracy theories here; it's really disgusting. The very fact that you could even come close to accepting that kind of thought is beyond my comprehension. I'd hate to see what your thoughts on other aspects of life are.
When it comes to the election, I'm 60-40 sure Obama has it in the bag, but just like msn.com said today: if Obama wins, he'll make history. If he loses, well..ha. http://www.slate.com/id/2203420/?GT1=38001 |
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I'll say this in the most polite way I can, but what gives you the right to judge a person simply on where they're from and what their morals are? Bill Clinton is from Arkansas, and he has an accent. I bet you don't hate him, and I bet you don't think he's stupid. But using your logic, since he's from down south, he must be an idiot. Quote:
*facepalm* This all stems from an irrational hatred of Bush and his presidency. You people loathe this man as though he was the devil in human form. (I wouldn't doubt that some of you actually think that). What did this man ever do to you to make you absolutely hate his guts? Sure, he made some mistakes, but he's our freakin president. Do you have any idea how hard it is to run a nation like America? You're so quick to judge him and call him stupid and evil and immoral, but don't you dare fault him for doing what he thought was right. America voted him in to office...twice in fact. We only have ourselves to blame for his actions. And need I point out that we've had a Democratic Congress for two whole years? Why does Bush get all the blame when Congress hasn't done a thing to help any of our problems? Because this election is about Bush and his evil ways and counting down the days until he gets out of office. I think people could care less about Congress sucking. You never hear about that 15% approval rating, but you sure as hell hear about Bush's 30% approval rating. It all stems back to people hating Bush. Lol...I can see it now. If Obama gets elected and things still don't get better, people are still going to blame Bush and his horrible presidency. "It's not Obama's fault! Look at the country Bush left him!" I hope for all out sakes that Obama is as good as he says he is, because he's got some incredible hype to live up to, and I for one don't think he'll come close to pulling it off. |
[On the South]
Why did I give an example of a Republican from the south? Beginning about 1950, the national Democratic Party's support of the civil rights movement significantly reduced Southern support for the Democratic Party and allowed the Republican Party to make gains in the South by way of its "Southern strategy." Today, the South is considered a stronghold of the Republican Party. During the twentieth century, the South was home to numerous political movements, including the "Republican Revolution" of 1994. In short, the south is considered to be the largest cluster of states to support Republican candidates. As for religion and God, this goes directly hand-in-hand with Republicans and southerners. The southern United States is well known for their Southern Baptists and very devout Christians. (I, myself, am inclined to think a bit more outside the box and tend to lean towards the views of Bill Maher.) Clearly, I did not go into any of this detail in my original post, but you merely assumed these things from me of which I did not say. Yes, it is true that the south does have poorer education due to their long history of racial problems including legal segregation and discrimination, and the passage of the Civil Rights Acts in the 1960's under a Democratic president and the Republicans' Southern Strategy. Do I personally believe all southerners are incompetent? Hardly. I don't think that's in question here though? Correct me if I'm wrong. [On the Conspiracy of September 11th] Of course people died in 9/11. I never said they didn't. That's what's scary. The time has come to stop using the flag as a blindfold, to stop waving our guns and our gods at each other, to take a close look at the facts which have emerged from the attacks on the World Trade Towers and to recognize the very real possibility, indeed probability, that We The People are the victims of a gigantic and deadly hoax. Either by incompetence or by design, George W. Bush allowed the 9/11 attacks to happen, and probably was involved in the planning of them. The American people might stand by and allow him to slaughter every nation in the world, but they will not stand for it when they know he participated the mass killing of his own people. 9/11 was a hoax. This is no longer a wild conspiracy assertion; it is a fact, supported by thousands of other verifiable facts, foremost of which are: The attacks of 9/11 COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED without the willful failure of the American defense system. In Washington, Air Force pilots demanded to fly but were ordered to stand down. Yet instead of prosecuting the president and military leaders for this unprecedented dereliction of duty, military leaders were promoted and the president was praised for presiding over a defense system that suspiciously failed the most crucial test in its history. None of the deaths would have happened without the deliberate unplugging of America's air defenses. The twin towers could not have collapsed as a result of burning jet fuel. Most of that fuel was consumed on impact. In the south tower, most of the fuel was spilled outside the building. Heat caused by burning jet fuel does not reach temperatures needed to melt steel. What does stand out as particularly suspicious and still unexplained is that fires raged out of control beneath THREE of the collapsed towers for ONE HUNDRED DAYS, clearly indicating the presence of some kind of substance utilized in the demolition of the structures. The names of the alleged hijackers, all ostensibly Muslims, were released to the public only hours after the attacks, despite Mueller saying we had no knowledge this would happen. This is an impossible twist of logic. If he didn't know of a plan to strike buildings with planes, how would he know the names of the hijackers? Various artifacts were discovered in strategic places to try to confirm the government's story, but these have all been dismissed as suspicious planting of evidence. Since that time several names on that list have turned up alive and well, living in Arab countries. Yet no attempt has ever been made to update the list. And why were none of these names on the airlines' passenger lists? Radio communications from firefighters on the upper floors of the Trade Center towers clearly indicate that fires were under control and the structure was in no danger of collapsing. These are merely a few of the deliberately false statements made by U.S. officials about 9/11. They provide crystal clear evidence that our president, his staff, and many legislators should be indicted on charges of treason, obstruction of justice and mass murder. Above all, these evil men should be removed from their positions of authority before they implement more of their moneymaking murder schemes like the one they are now perpetrating on the innocent people of Iraq. Consider just a few more of the other unanswered questions from among the thousands of unexplained loose ends that all point to 9/11 being an inside job. -Who benefited from the suspiciously high numbers of put options purchased prior to September 11 for shares in companies whose stock prices subsequently plummeted, on the supposition that whoever was behind the hijacking was also behind most of the purchases of these put options? And what was the role of the new executive director of the CIA, Buzzy Krongard, who handled these transactions? -Why was the debris from the collapsed Twin Towers removed from the site with no forensic examination? Why was almost all of it sold to scrap merchants and shipped abroad where it would not be available for scientific examination? -Why does the government refuse to release any transcripts of communications or any records at all relating to signals of any form transmitted by those jets? -Why did so many people, from San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown to many employees of companies in the World Trade Center who failed to come to work that day, know in advance that something bad was going to happen on Sept. 11, 2001? -Why do all the major U.S. media continue to act as if none of these questions is legitimate or relevant? Today, millions of people around the world are protesting the criminal destruction of the nation of Iraq. But these protests won't change the number of minds necessary to stop America's criminal madmen from continuing with their genocidal aim of enslaving the entire world. What WILL stop them is spreading the realization that President George W. Bush and his billionaire accomplices in the oil industry perpetrated 9/11 as an excuse to begin the militarization of America for the purpose of world conquest. History has shown all too clearly the deceived American people WILL support the destruction of faraway countries on phony pretexts of defending so-called freedom. For more on September 11th, I'd advise you to do a simple search on Google. [On Bush] Listening to presidents reporting on the State of the Union, you would conclude that they came from Lake Wobegon, since every one of them, by his account, is well above average. Just once, I'd like to hear one say what would be true of many: "Because of my mistakes, the state of the union has gotten worse." But none ever does. Even the worst presidents prefer to focus on their successes and ignore their failures. The striking thing about President Bush's final State of the Union address is that even the successes he claims are largely fictional. Judged by his own criteria, the speech was a catalogue of failure in almost every realm. With one year left in his term, we see a new figure: George Bush, fiscal conservative. He proposed to cut or kill 151 programs at a savings of $18 billion. He threatened a veto if Congress doesn't curb earmarks. He bragged that his new budget "will keep America on track for a surplus in 2012." He bragged that thanks to our help, hope is on the rise in Afghanistan. In fact, 2007 was the deadliest year for U.S. troops and Afghan civilians since 2001. The Taliban has rebounded. One administration official recently told The Washington Post, "We're seeing definite expanded strongholds. That's not going to stop in 2008. ... If anything, it's gaining momentum." In Afghanistan, things are getting worse, not better. When he first went to Capitol Hill following his 2001 inauguration, Bush said he and members of Congress should aspire to earn "from our fellow citizens the highest possible praise: Well done, good and faithful servants." Whatever he hears from the American people when he leaves office next January, I'm guessing it won't be that. For more on Bush's failures, see here. |
I usually dont go into politics as its a very touchy matter but i wanna give my 2 cents:
Mc Cain gets lected president something went wrong. And it could mea very bad things. I wouldnt be suprised fi he didnt follow bush's footsteps. Obama could make the change. Just that is if the racist minorities let him live long enough. edit:Aurafire did you just say a few posts up that only 300 people died in 9/[email protected][email protected] My god it was about 2000+ that were lost. I acually have the luck to have been living in new york the time it happened not to mention that my dad could have been there that day. |
I guess I can't force you to not be that opinionated about the south. But you make it sound like there's something wrong with being Republican and/or religious.
You're flat our wrong about 9/11...and over 90% of the country will agree with me. Conspiracy theories have been long proven false, and even those to the very far left agree that it wasn't an inside job. Why don't you search google instead? And I can accept your views about Bush. That's fine, and even I'll admit he's made mistakes. Quote:
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Anyway hmm wht do you guys think would happen? |
Well technically I didn't vote in the real election... but my school held a mock election a few weeks ago. Obama ~80% and McCain was 11%. And I live in Utah! Well, Salt Lake City is pretty much solidly democratic, but I thought it would be a little closer.
My Mom voted about a week ago, she was in and out in 15 minutes. So next election I'm definitely voting early. |
Ok you guys. Today's the day. Please help me by posting results, voting experience, etc. In this HISTORIC US ELECTION 2008!
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I voted for the first time today! ^_^ It felt so good. =D hopefully the best one will win and do a great job
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I'm at my university and registered back in New York, so I did my absentee ballot and voted for Obama a couple weeks ago. Not exactly exciting, but I still voted!^^
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I voted for the first time today at my former high school. I was in and out with my mother in five minutes, most of which was chatting with a poll worker. My father voted the previous day because he is a poll worker in a different voting district. Also here is a link to streaming returns.
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First results are coming in....Kentucky has gone to McCain, while New Hampshire and Pennsylvania, a key battle ground state, have gone to Obama. Based on early numbers, it's not looking good for McCain. (Not like we expected anything else XD)
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As expected, Obama got his state of Illinois. Go us! =]
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Well, this election is pretty much over. Obama has 174 according to most places and he will get 55 more in California for sure, not to mention all of his other predicted wins. Looks like we know who the next president will be, not that we didn't already.
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Election Results Barrack Obama has been declared presidential elect by winning 284 electoral votes. |
FINALLY!!!
BARRACK OBAMA! |
YES BARACK OBAMA Is President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yep, I'm happy as heck..
OBAMA FOR YOUR MAMA! |
..so I hope Obama will be as good as everyone thinks. Honestly, I've heard alot of religious people saying stuff that scares the crap out of me. although I'm not really the most religious person.. I hope nothing bad like that is true. I hope he'll be a good pesident. ^_^
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YES! He won! Of course if you've been reading this thread I'm sure you already know that. :x
I KNEW IT! I've known for a month Obama would win. |
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Obama is president!!! like the last person said, i'm happy as heck! this is a wonderful day ppl! for 400 years, since the dawn of presidency, the presidents have all been white. but finally, a man has made history as the first African-American president! i almost cried tears of joy when i saw the results. take that McCain! :P |
All I can say is, I sure hope Obama can accomplish most of what he wants to. If he seems to be able to, more power to him. Otherwise it's going to be a long, cold 4 years of more "so!?! is it done yet!? Your amazing plan to fix the US!?!"
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Obama is president... I hoped for McCain, but oh well... Obama can handle well I suppose...
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I'm still sort of in disbelief, but now I know that I've have truly witnessed history. For the first time in history, America has elected an African-American president. If Obama can live up to his promises, i'm sure the next four years will be one of the greatest presidencies in this country's history.
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Aw, McCain sounds so sad.. I get sad when I hear sad people XD
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obama is number 44, but he is number one with being the 1st african american president. woot woot.
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Best. Election. Ever.
Obama deserves to be the president of the USA, and to be the first African-American, epic. |
Obama FTWW
I knew he would win |
Great!
Finally it looks like the US will have a decent President. I hope David Palmer Barack Obama can instaurate the countermeasures needed to fix that bureauratic mess. In practical terms I highly doubt so, but when we look at the hardships and the achievements that have marked the history of african-american US Presidents so far, one can only hope. Now let's hope he next President is either a woman, a transgenic, an indocumented immigrant or a mystery writer. Little by little the US will recover its bright, common sense will reach again the brains of the people, and the absurdities of the Monroe Doctrine will be finally left behind. Oh... by the way... I originally rooted for Hillary. Still, right now I'm more than happy.:D |
Guess what McCain did:
MCCAIN CONCEDED THE ELECTION So I guess that means: Obama IS OFFICIALLY The President. God Bless this Country. I'm so damn proud of Virginia. I'm just shocked that Florida was a blue state. 0.o |
Eh, Obama is a fine president. I was leaning to McCain, but Obama does not seem to bad. The only thing I didn't like about him was that he takes all the money from the people who work for it and gives it to people that need to work more, I might be wrong.
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I hope that Obama can go through with his promises for America, and change the US for the better.
I was sure he would win anyway, though. |
Now, let's wait to see if anyone besides me actually LIKED of feels sorry for McCain!
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I'm not expecting much better in an Obama administration, especially when it comes to economics, social programs, and foreign policy. Same would've been for McCain.
I made this banner and used it in my signature on some other message boards I post to (including the Michigan Radio and TV Buzzboard) http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c140/ottermi619/moreofthesame2.png According to libertarian columnist and writer Lew Rockwell on his LRC Blog at LewRockwell.com: Quote:
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I just hope the Secret Service does a VERY good job protecting Mr.Obama =/ The ONLY thing I don't like about this is that for the next 4 years I'll have to listen to my grandfather whining about a black guy being president (and various other negitivity against Obama) |
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anyway.. WHY doesn't this country choose by the popular vote? they should.. Obama would still win, and it makes alot more sense, IMO. but who cares, I'm off to Canada within a few years. XD |
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Of course, this was also back in the day when people really fought dirty in elections. Otherwise, my views on the next four years can be summed up essentially by the first line of Otter's last post. |
I just want to say that I woke up just to see that Obama had won by a great difference. I'm so happy right now, and I'm happy the US didn't disappoint me yet again. Bye Bush. Hello change. I hope he lives up to his hype... and then the world will be a much better place.
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The only thing I'm not so excited for with Obama is the fact that he's going to raise income taxes for people that make over a certain amount and my family does. :\ So our taxes are going to go up, but other than that, I'm excited to have a Democratic President and listen to someone that actually has public speaking skills!
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That said, I think Obama's method will be good for a while because the middle class (and lower) is hurting. Big corporations like tax breaks, but I don't know if the incentive is there. By taking work to other shores they still may be making more money than if they kept workers here and took Obama's tax break. |
Yes the secret service will do a god job. Hopefully such a good job that when walking obama will have a human shield wall around him. Hmm are the troops still in iraq? If ao then he needs to get them out of there!
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I'm glad with the result even if I couldnt see it until 5 hours after most of you.
I was very happy to see Obama win and McCain very gracious in defeat. |
Now that the Republicans are continuing their downfall, the Conservative movement, the Smaller Government movement, the liberty movement, the fiscal responsibility movement, the free markets movement, the GOP itself-all have been terminally damaged from the implosion of the Bush Regime.
I'm expecting this Democratic majority to last MUCH LONGER than 40 years-maybe even permanently! (forget the mantra from Karl Rove about a "permanent Republican majority"-any hopes of such were hosed long time ago by the Bush Regime and its tactics.) According to "Digital Driver" at the Great Lakes Atrium forum (and another Libertarian, similar to me): Quote:
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So glad that Obama won he may not have much experience as people say,but his so called Vice President to be has much experience so he will get his help from him.
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I mean, times are different now, so it's possible for the Democratic party to simply hold power for as long as you're predicting thanks to the weakened Republicans, but because we're so used to what is essentially a two-party system, I'm wondering if another party will come along from the people who are fed up with the Republican party but just aren't willing to join the Democrats. (As in, honest curiosity as to what people better versed in politics think about this idea.) |
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I'm just glad that it's all over, news programs here in Britain just wouldn't shut up about the election. ¬_¬
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Hmmm...
Now that we have had a day to celebrate, reflect, or digest President-Elect Obama's and the stronger Democratic Congress win. Let us talk about what the next administration should do on this nightmare of problems. =/ What should he tackle first as I have put up on the new poll.
How should he use his newfound international and political goodwill? Which major problem should be tackled first after the economy, Healthcare or the Environment? (Energy Independence) |
Well...the networks had a list of issues and how they ranked to voters and the economy was first and the environment was last. So, I would say he should tackle it in that order.
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Even though I don't like it, I've accepted him as President. When he officially gets the office in January he might as well as start off with the Economy.
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about the poll
As for the issues mentioned in the poll above...first I think the new administration/regime will take up financial "reform" (which will be giving more power to the Federal Reserve and global elitists); environmentalism (which will be imposing carbon taxes and Wall Street-style cap-and-trade programs, mandates for even more ethanol production, among other things); education reform (which will involve universal preschool-through-doctorate, with mandatory full-day kindergarten and continued attendance through at least age 18 or high school graduation, whichever comes later, maybe as high as 21 and/or a bachelor's degree!); and health care (which will involve mandatory health insurance for all, just like Massachusetts, and HillaryCare II, and Ah-nold's proposal).
What they REALLY should be doing (but of course they won't):
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I think the economy situation is the most urgent problem that requires an immediate response. If the economy gets better, health gets better too. That's because studies have shown that there's a linear trend between health of individuals and their socio-economic status. Improving the global (or at least American) economy will enhance the economic status of Americans, which would reflect on their health.
Terrorism and wars in the Middle East... I think this could be easily be solved by withdrawing the US army from the Middle East and not interfering with domestic relations. |
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I am congraduating President-Elect Obama on his historic win and will hope he will goveren bi-partisanly. |
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Hm..yeah
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But yes I hope he leads Bi-Partisanly because even though I might look heavily Liberal here, I'm still afraid of too much extremism. D= |
There's been some reports of Powell and even McCain being in his cabinet
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Now we got Obama as President and Biden as Vice, I really hope they will tackle the Global Economy/Financial Reform. Because right now, it is in bad shape. Everyone in the whole world is hurting economically. The US is the worst...
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Totally agree. Also simultaneously at the same time, not forget the post-9/11 stage. It's a tough stressful job to be in now. But it has to be done.
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Yeah, it's kinda a few days overdue, but CONGRATS Obama on winning the Presidency :D :)!!! I can't wait to see his change established so that the U.S. can recover from the last 8 years of Presidential failure.
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I had a measure of support for both candidates, but I mostly supported Obama, now that the results are in, he will have to overcome a hard test the moment he assumes office: the crisis, here's hoping his administration proves capable of handling it and recover, plus improve relations^^
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After a month....
As you know a lot of things has happened over the last month after the US Elections:
*The US is now Officially in a Recession starting December last year (Obviously after the International coordinated efforts to stabilize the Global Economy) *The Mumbai, India terrorist attacks have put the US in a more difficult position in Afghanistan. Possibly first foreign crisis for President-elect Obama *The Symbolical 60-40 Filibuster-Proof Democratic Senate is now out of reach after the Republican's won the Georgia Senate Seat. (Minnesota's votes is still being hand-recounted) It's not really that important since a more Bi-Partisan effort in the US Congress will be more effective and appealing to Americans. It would have been more of a blow to the Republicans if Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky was unseated during the US Elections like Tom Daschle was. *This is turning out to be one of the most Peaceful Transfer of power between the opposing parties on the modern Presidency. Ironically enough for a President-Elect who based his campaign mostly on Change and heavily criticized the Current Incumbent President. *Obama has named about half of his cabinet and other appointments. List of Appointments: Secretaries: Secretary of State: Hillary Clinton Defence Secretary: Robert Gates Treasury Secretary: Timothy Geithner Health Secretary: Tom Daschle Attorney General (Justice Secretary): Eric Holder Homeland Security Secretary: Janet Napolitano UN ambassador: Susan Rice Commerce Secretary: Bill Richardson White House: National Security Adviser: General James Jones National Economic Council: Lawrence Summers Chief of Staff: Rahm Emanuel Senior adviser: David Axelrod Senior adviser: Valerie Jarrett Transition co-chair: John Podesta Senior adviser: Pete Rouse Press secretary: Robert Gibbs White House counsel: Greg Craig Assistant for legislative affairs: Phil Schiliro VP chief of staff: Ron Klain President-Elect Obama's list of Major Priorities. In order of importance according to the President-Elect: Primary Goals: 1. Stabilizing and reforming the Financial System 2. An "Apollo-like" investment in Energy Independence and tackling Global Climate-Change 3. Establishing Universal Health care in the United States 4. Tax-cuts for the Middle-Class 5. Education Reform Secondary Goals: 6. Improving Foreign Policy (Closing Guantanamo Bay, Withdrawing from Iraq) 7.Renegotiating Trade Deals and Agreements 8. Immigration Reform As we can see, his Primary Goals are both Internationally and domestically needed for Global Competitiveness and United States security. Also in north of the border (Canada): A Political Storm is brewing after the Opposition Parties (Liberals, New Democratic Party, and Bloc Quebec) have declared to forming a coalition to topple the recently elected Conservative Minority Government "due to the Economic Crisis." I truly am against it due to it's undermining of democracy. If you live in Canada this petition's for you:http://canadians4democracy.ca/index.php?lang=e Canada halts Parliament amid row. Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper has won a bid to suspend parliament, blocking an opposition attempt to topple his minority government. Also I can't help but laugh at this comic XD: http://images.salon.com/comics/tomo/2008/12/09/tomo/story.jpg |
In a surprising development Rep. William Jefferson (D-La.) lost his bid for reelection to Joseph Cao. Joseph Cao Vietnam when he was a child and is the first Vietnamese-American to be elected to Congress. The election was postponed till December because of damage caused by Hurricane Gustav. Jefferson's defeat was shocking despite the fact he has been under indictment for bribery since June 2007.
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Heh...Merry Happy Hanukwanzmas Day. ^_^
Well since everyone's in the Winter Cheer...Ifelt compelled to post this. ^_^
http://action.1sky.org/images/1sky-ecard-2008-resolutions-landing-400px.jpg Well as everyone know...The Illinois Governor's corruption has thrown Senate appointments into chaos as potential challengers are pushed away...More Secretary appointments...etc...More later. =P |
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