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Goldeneyes November 11th, 2008 2:12 AM

Life just isnt the same since they banned double team
 
Before anybody tells me to use a moveset only possible on platinum, I’d just like to say I live in Australia and Platinum is not expected to come out for roughly 3-6 months.
And now, without any further ado, RATE AWAY!

Why Granma, What Big Teeth you Have! (Aerodactyl) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
---

This thing makes a great lead. Puts a stop to many common leads such as Bronzong. Too standard but it recks leads so im happy. EVs and nature self explanatory.

The Tran Man (Heatran) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 20 HP/236 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Dragon Pulse
- Explosion
---

This guy is a beast! Do I need to say any more? The damage loss isn't too bad considering I now outspeed Duggy and OHKO with Fire Blast.

Pincushion (Zapdos) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 Def
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Thunderwave
- Substitute
- Roost
---

Helps the team with status, sets up subs. No more, no less. I love him. Similar to Subroost set. EVs tweaked to better withstand physical hits.

Aquatic Dog..... Thing (Vaporeon) @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 188 HP/252 Def/ 68 SDef
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- HP [Electric]
- Wish
- Roar
---

This guy is so cool. My favourite DP wall. Heatran and Bulky Waters counter. The Wish support is invaluable to the rest of the team.

Steroids are yum (Machamp) @ Leftovers
Ability: Guts
EVs: 128 HP/252 Atk/128 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
- Payback
---

Check to Tar. Epic Coverage.

KABOOM! (Forretress) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/96 Def/162 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Spikes
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
---

This guy takes an insane amount of phsical punishment. Spins, sets up spikes.


Rate away.

Archer November 11th, 2008 3:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldeneyes (Post 4113381)
Before anybody tells me to use a moveset only possible on platinum, I’d just like to say I live in Australia and Platinum is not expected to come out for roughly 3-6 months.
And now, without any further ado, RATE AWAY!

Aerodactyl @ Life Orb/Focus Sash
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
---

This thing makes a great lead. Puts a stop to many common leads such as Bronzong. Too standard but it recks leads so im happy


Heatran @ Life Orb/Choice Scarf
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 20 HP/236 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Explosion
---

This guy is a beast! Do I need to say any more?


Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 Def
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Thunderwave
- Substitute/HP Ice/Heat Wave
- Roost
---

Helps the team with status, sets up subs. No more, no less. I love him.


Suicune @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/ 4 SAtk
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Surf
- HP [Electric]
- Calm Mind
- Roar
---

This guy is so cool. My favourite DP wall. Heatran and Gyarados counter. Thinking of replacing with Vappy as the Wish support would be awesome for Forry, Heatran.

I find it doesn't last too long without Rest. CroCune can be the best, although I understand if you want to keep HP Electric

Celebi @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/4 Spd/252 SDef
Careful nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Heal Bell/Grass Knot
- Recover
- U-turn
/Grass Knot
- Leech Seed
---

I'm not a huge fan of Celebi in general, Heal Bell is necessary to get rid of status and Leech Seed is there not only to force switches (allowing me to send in a counter to my opponent's Pokémon with U-turn). I wanted to use something with U-turn and this is my pathetic excuse.


Forretress @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/96 Def/162 SDef
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Explosion
/Gyro Ball
- Spikes
- Earthquake/Gyro Ball
- Rapid Spin
---

This guy takes an insane amount of punishment. Then when you think you’ve finished him off, KABOOM.


Rate away.

Ok, I realise you'll shoot me for suggesting Heat Wave, mainly because you seem to suggest this is a Wifi team. In that case, you won't be able to get HP Ice easily. You will be suprised how many people are willing to trade over to Platinum and use a move tutor for you.

TTar and Mixape can give you problems. Especially without Sash, don't overestimate how long Aero will survive...

Skip Shot November 11th, 2008 8:35 AM

Agree with Archer. You are also pretty lacking in physical power, having 2 pokes that attack physically, one of which is a suicide lead.

One thing I noticed is that you have 3 pokes who can wall physically, I would take out either Cune or Zappy (preferably Zappy) and bring in a check to Tar. I recommend CB Champ.

Machamp @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature- Guts
128 HP/ 252 Atk/128 Spe

Close Combat
Ice Punch
Payback
T-Punch


If the loss of status is going to hurt you, you can either:

Place Toxic>>Explosion on Heatran to stop bulky waters and such.
Put T-Spikes on Forry, in D/P, steel sweepers weren't so common, so you could get a better chance to use it well.

. November 11th, 2008 10:50 AM

That Machamp isn't as awesome a check for Tyranitar as some think it is, as it lacks bulkiness. You could opt for good ol' Rest-Talk Machamp:

Machamp @ Leftovers
Adamant
252 HP/36 Att/216 Def/6 Spe
Dynamicpunch
Ice Punch/Stone Edge
Rest
Sleep Talk

Goldeneyes November 12th, 2008 9:31 PM

Thanks for the rate
made some changes
finally gave in to switching suicune for vaporeon but im going to miss the sweep that suicune had after setting up on something defenseless


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