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Skip Shot November 11th, 2008 9:12 PM

Why not? (Sunny Day UU RMT)
 
I was reading through the NU discussion today, and it occured to me that with the move of flareon out off NU to limbo UU? is it? it opens up a sunny day metagame that could work, especially in UU.

The Sun Will Come Out Tmrw (Solrock) @ Heat Rock
Impish Nature
252 HP/ 180 Def/ 76 Atk

Sunny Day
Stealth Rock
Explosion
Reflect/Stone Edge

Solrock doesn't need a Focus Sash due to its bulkiness compared to other leads. This guy mainly sets up SR and Sunny Day, maybe a Reflect as well, then boom if its health is too low to get back.

A Tribute to Sims (Vileplume) @ Big Root
Sassy/Calm Nature
244 HP/ 136 Def/ 128 Sp. Def.

Sunny Day
Leech Seed
Sludge Bomb
Aromatherapy

I chose to put a cleric on this team in the form of Vileplume. It sets up Leech Seed, and Large Root passes off the largerhealth saps to other pokes who might switch in.

Flareon @ Life Orb
Lonely Nature
192 Atk/ 148 Spa/ 168 Spe

Fire Blast
Superpower
HP Grass
Return

PLatinum made Flareon a much better mixed sweeper than either special or physical. Superpower breaks many walls who try to switch in, Return is for Hypno and Grumpig, and HP Grass is for Quaggy. Fire Blast is pretty self-explanatory, no?

Shiftry @ Life Orb
Timid/Modest Nature- Chlorohpyll
252 Spa/ 252 Spe/ 6 HP

Nasty Plot
Energy Ball
HP Fire
Dark Pulse

NP Shiftry takes some nice support from Sunny Day. I chose HP Fire so I'm not walled by Steelix.


Clefable @ Leftovers
Calm Nature- Magic Guard
252 HP / 252 Spd/ 4 Spe

Thunder Wave
Seismic Toss
Encore
Wish

I decided that I needed some Wish support for this team. Therefore, I edited BlissFable and gave it Wish instead of Softboiled.

Primeape @ CHoice Scarf
Adamant Nature
48 HP / 252 Atk / 208 Spe

Close Combat
Ice Punch
Stone Edge
Punishment

My main revenge killer, and ensurer that Mantine doesn't go ZOMG U EPIC PHAIL at me.

Dark Azelf November 12th, 2008 4:34 AM

That flareon spread and set is disturbing


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Lonely Nature
192 Attk / 148 Sp.A / 168 Speed
- Super Power
- Hidden Power Grass
- Fire Blast
- Return

Is better.

Return lets you 2hko standard Hypno and Grumpig which shadow ball fails to do btw. Also iirc, STAB Fire Blast has MORE power than a super effective Shadow Ball.



I still think Encore is one of the best moves in the game, especially on Clefable and can go >> reflect, ev both defenses if you want.


Rain Dance teams are really problematic here, stuff like Qwilfish and Kabutops wreck you.

And dont tell me your serious about only one sunny day starter, PLEASE ._..

You need at least 2 or even 3, id like to see Sunny Day on plume, possibly >> sub.

Also there are better options >> tropius i feel, stuff like NP Shiftry, heck Victreebel pulls that set off better...even more so, since both the aformentioned pokes benefit from the sun, through chlorophyll since your team is like....slow as hell.

Skip Shot November 12th, 2008 4:16 PM

I see your points on everything, even though as the noob i am, still dont understand wat iirc is *shot*.

I'll change that flareon set around. Is there anything that doesn't suffer attack drops from Sunny Day that can make an effective RD Counter?

DonRoyale November 12th, 2008 5:06 PM

Best counter to RD teams is Golduck IIRC (If I Remember Correctly). Cloud Nine = Win.

I don't know the set as I'm a UUnub. :P
D_A would, because he's super-pro n' stuff. :D

I don't know what to suggest for this team, really. I'm not feeling Vile all that much, but like I said, I'm a UUnub. :P

I give you credit for using Sunny Day with all the Rain Dance running around. My all-time favorite UU Poke, Dry Skin Toxicroak, doesn't like this team all that much. :#

Skip Shot November 12th, 2008 8:48 PM

oh yeah! cloud nine. LOL forgot bout that. who should he go over?

BeachBoy November 17th, 2008 8:37 AM

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