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Pysncrono November 22nd, 2008 4:52 AM

Rate the New Guy's Team [Shoddy/Smogon Server/UU]
 
Hi there!
Im new to this place, but not new to Shoddy or Pokemon. This is a little RMT I made that could use some help. Just for figures, I reached 1200 CRE with this team, not thatthats a lot( Seriously, its not >>).
Also its pure offense with some bulk, so please dont suggest Clefable or Steelix.
Anyways onto the team:


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/nidoking.png
Nidoking (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Rivalry
EVs: 114 Atk/252 Spd/144 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Earth Power
- Sucker Punch
- Stealth Rock
- Taunt


A Nidoking set I found somewhere. This works surprisingly effectively. Taunt is to mess up other setup leads, also many people dont see it coming. Earth Power gets Steelix and other crap, Sucker Punch for guys who try to deal some damage as I go down after my sash is broken. Prevents opposing Stealth Rock and sets up my own. Having problems with ScarfMoth though, usually I SR as they attack, then I switch to an immune/resist, keeping King as death fodder.

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/camerupt.png
[email protected] Life Orb
Mild
Solid Rock
EV's: 8Atk / 252SpA / 248Spe
~Rock Polish
~Fire Blast
~Earth Power
~Explosion


Rock Polish set from Smogon. Camerupt has a high special attack with poerful STABs so a Rock Polish set works great. Explosion if for grand finishes. Water weakness is somewhat lessened due to Solid Rock and Lapras.
Works very well lategame and can sweep unprepared teams 6-0. Yes thats right...be prepared..or die!


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/Absol.png
Absol (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Super Luck
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Sucker Punch
- Psycho Cut /Night Slash
- Superpower


Standard SD Absol. SD raises attacks to high levels. Psycho Cut is my main form of sweeping, many people dont expect it and send in their Hitmons, which get slaughtered. Superpower to do some final damage before I switch or die. Sucker Punch to pick off choiced pokemon or other stuff. Overall excellent sweeper. Im debating Night Slash, as it hits many UU pokes for big damage...

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/lapras.png
Lapras @ Life Orb
Naughty
Water Absorb
EV's: 16HP / 252Atk / 224Spe / 16SpA
~Dragon Dance
~Return
~Hydro Pump
~Ice Beam


From the Smogon Creative Moveset. Its a wallbreaking Lapras, EV's are tailormade to KO specific walls. Return OHKO's (I think) Grumpig and Hypno after one DD, they are the top two special walls with Clefable. I'll run Calcs for Standard Clefable later. Hydro Pump is needed to OHKO Steelix, Surf takes a load of EV's to OHKO, and that makes it physically weak. I just need suggestions on whether the typr would be beneficial, as this Lapras serves as a Counter to the threatening albeit uncommon Poliwrath who dont have Brick Break. Actually, it can DD while PWrath switches in and survive one Brick Break IIRC, it did happen in one of my matches.


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/Froslass.png
Froslass (F) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Snow Cloak
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]


My first antispin and hard hitting SpecSweeper. Bolt Beam for coverage and STAB. Ghost fighting also for STAB and coverage. Great spec sweeper, also can take on Claydol and Sandslash etc and come out victorious.


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/Rotom.png
Rotom @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Will-o-wisp
- Trick
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball


Annoyer/AntiSpin. Rotom comes in on one of it three immunities and Tricks its Scarf onto other Pokemon. Now as they staty stuck in that move, Will-o-wisp hits their switch-in. Last two moves are to do damage, and are for Dual STAB.

This team has been netting me several wins, win % around 66%.

Big threats
These are the offensive pokes out of the top 20 used pokes in UU:

Hitmontop
Rotom / Froslass switch into Mach Punch / CC. Froslass if they dont have Bullet Punch. Rotom can Trick or W-o-W to cripple it. I'll run Calcs for Ice Beam from Specslass on a technitop, since I think that variety is the common one.

Rotom
Rotom ties and threatens KO with Shadow Ball, I usually send in King to receive the Choice Scarf assuming hes still alive, otherwise I send in Absol to take the Trick

Ninetales
Problems if it sets up, Other wise Camerupt can OHKO it with Earthpower..

Venusaur
Froslass and Camerupt take care of it.

Hitmonlee
The big one. I can only hope for a Trick or W-o-W from Rotom or I can switch into a CC on a ChoiceLee.

Swellow
Rotom is a counter with Scarf.

Absol
Not much of a problem, I need to predict well though...

Froslass
Im not too sure....Ive seen mostly Spike variants which I DO have problems with >>

Altaria
No prob if I prevent setting up. Lapras can KO with Ice Beam usually and I think survive an unboosted Outrage.

Kabutops
Crap without RD. I think Scarftom outspeeds in rain, if not im screwed >.<

Primeape
Two ghosts, good enough IMO...

Toxicroak
The reson I kept Psycho Cut over Night Slash originally...Nowadays I just play around it with Rotom's Will-o-Wisp..

I'll add the defensive pokes as well since someone on SPPF had a real rant on whether I could beat defensive teams or not.

Please RATE MY TEAM!!
Credit to arkeis.com for images and pe2k for sprites for my banner. I made the banner with the help of a tut from SolarHavoc of Smogon.

ABYAY November 22nd, 2008 8:31 AM

Nothing can live two Aerial Aces from a CB Scyther on this team, so set up those Stealth Rocks as soon as possible. Fortunately, it has no places to be capable of coming in.

You also can't take status that well, especially when Camerupt goes down. (This one is just my opinion though. I guess you could call Camerupt your "status absorber")

Very offensive team here: Again, be careful of your plays against Scyther.

Dark Azelf November 22nd, 2008 8:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABYAY (Post 4139124)
Nothing can live two Aerial Aces from a CB Scyther on this team, so set up those Stealth Rocks as soon as possible. Fortunately, it has no places to be capable of coming in.

Cant Rotom deal with it? I havent done calcs but with resistances to both STABS with a scarf it should be a good check..

ABYAY November 22nd, 2008 8:51 AM

CB Aerial Ace from a 252 atk Scyther vs. 6HP Rotom

122 - 144 (50.62% - 59.75%)
=\

CB U-Turn
94 - 111 (39% - 46.06%)

Also, should there be a case where Rotom has tricked its Scarf... CB Pursuit
216 - 256 (89.63% - 106.22%)

Just remember though: Scyther fears Stealth Rock to death, so make sure that gets up early.

Pysncrono November 22nd, 2008 9:05 AM

Thanks for pointing that out. I havent seen too many Scyther lately though, mostly because of SR. I almost always get my Rocks, only fail against Electrode and some speedy taunters. And I have two antispin to make sure that Nidoking doesnt go in vain.
Yes, status is a problem sometimes but usually I just switch Camperupt in, as like you pointed out, it resists T-Wave and W-o-W. Sleep I just send in King and then switch, due to Sleep Clause I wont worry about it.
Kep rating guys!

Zetta-Chan November 22nd, 2008 12:07 PM

If your looking for a status absorber, Rest Talk Camerupt is your main man. I absolutely love this set.

Camerupt @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Modest Nature / Solid Rock
228 HP / 96 SpA / 184 SpD
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Lava Plume
- Earth Power

With already an immunity to WoW and T-Wave, Camerupt is a beast status absorber. This set actually works so well that it can be used in OU.
Rest is for when you need a health boost, and Sleep Talk for a sleep absorb.

Pysncrono November 22nd, 2008 12:28 PM

Well I chose Camerupt because it has a fair amount of bulk, access to great Dual STAB, great user of Explosion and EXCELLENT synergy with Lapras. Its like they are my core...
Thanks for that suggestion but I need all the offense I can get. I used to run Ninetales here before BTW. Dont have problems with status currently...Although I have rpoblems with Lanturn and Jumpluff leads....


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