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Need a compensater slot for my team.
Originally I was planning a team involving Claydoll and tyranitar, but I couldn't think of a pokemon that could cover the weaknesses of them very well, so I decided to drop T-tar, as this is mainly trying to avoid OO's.
Claydoll-???? -EQ/psychic (I'm undecided as of now) -reflect or light screen, whichever boost SP.def -Toxic -Explosion. Simple enough theme, toxic shield, then explode before dieing. For my second team member, I was thinking something along a physical sweeper, as just about anything I pick will have be better covered by a special type than a physical type when combined with Claydoll. (I miss my nidoking so much!) And last, I'm planning for a type that can fill the role of semi-tank, and possibly a secondary sweeper that can cover the weknesses of Claydoll and the phys guy. I have a moveset planned for just about any "cover slot" pokemon, but the problem is, I need to find a good physical sweeper to use. X_X |
IMO the best claydol is
Claydol[adamant]@ leftovers EVs - SpDef, hp, Att earthquake rapid spin rest/toxic light screen/reflect for T-Tar Tyranitar[adamant] EVs - Att, Sp, Def rock slide earthquake taunt dragon dance Well a good physical sweeper i am not too sure u can take either Salamance [but then they will both have a ice weakness] T-Tar[ but then they would both have a water weakness] aerodactyl[ but then they both have an ice and water weakness] IMO take anyone and add milotic/lapras would cover the ice and water but then there is grass............ XP |
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the fact that you're asking for a Claydol, considering a Tyranitar and thinking about a Starmie is already on your way to make at least half of your team OUs. All 3 of them are OU.
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Errr... if you think that way, but the info is given out that all 3 of them are definitely OUs. If you can see one of them in 20 battle, it's an OU.
A UU is like "wha...? What's that?" |
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IMO starmie is definitely OU
but if thats ur experience................ as for fighting type i really don't use any but breelom so i wouldn't be able to help much u can try machamp or even better IMO, Primape...... Well if u are for UU then T-Tar, Starmie are out and so is my Breelom sugestion................... Well i find lapras is overly UU in NB IMO and Hariyama is too.......and they are good. walrein, dewgong etc are other UU water types......and for a reason XP Blah OU pokes rule for a reason XD but if u can own with UU then u are truly great IMO...... |
Blaziken is not as common as Starmie because it's slow for a sweeper and got highly predictable moveset. Claydol's valuable thing is that it can attack pretty well as well as stalling with reflect or light screen (and being brick break immune is a nice thing).
But really can't suggest a Pokemon for the last slots, as we dont' really know what you want or what you like. But we can suggest movesets after you got the Pokemon certainly (and do tell if it's 202 or 386) |
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Sorry for the double post, but the way I had it made it difficult to get my meaning when it was in the same context as the previous statement. It's ruby/saphire/colloseum, soon to be 386 when I get fire red and leaf green. It isn't netbattle, I gave that up a while ago. I was thinking for a fighting type that I might try a semi-predicable hitmontop, or at least it would be if you expected your oponent to have no idea what he was doing. (The shameless self apraisal over a "trick" moveset has been removed from this post) But really, I still need to find a balance, I'll post my "trick" hitmontop and my "WHAT THE FUDGE?" Starmie later, but only if you do not tell me that "that set is just wrong" or similar, they are the way they are for a purpose. Advise on minor changes to the sets I apreciate, but giving me a standard or "normal" moveset is not what I'm looking for. |
Well post them.....
and what do u want throw some pokemon names at us........ then we can help.... but for now all we know is that u want claydol and may take Starmie |
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Then, after some of my friends complained about it, I decided to see if I could try something similar with pokemon that aren't OU. A claydoll that wasn't devoted to anti-spiker was my first choice, but then I followed through with a "trick" hitmontop, which I later scrapped (But could bring back) and a starmie that would confuse my enemies. (Not their pokemon, THEM) Hitmontop ("trick") -Brick break -Revenge -Detect -Endeavor. Starmie -Giga Drain (If it can learn it, I can't remember, if not, I'll use another grass move) -Ice beam -Recover -Psychic The purpose of these isn't to make the "most" of their abilities, but to be good, without going with the "standards" for movesets. I must admit though, that I took this to extremes. |
No it can't learn giga drain..
so take HP grass instead. IMO i find HP grass becoming an almost standard on water types nowadays.. Not sure why it took so long though.......... well that works but i don't see it being overly unusual. infact other than the replacement of a grass move over thunderbolt it is fairly standard.................... as for hitmontop that can work but..........u can also try if u like Hitmontop[adamant] EVs - Att, Sp earthquake/rock slide counter/rapid spin/rock slide brick break mach punch/triple kick [i think it can break subs but i'm not sure] IMO Hitmonlee rules the Hitmon family....... |
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can't HP Grass because this isn't NB. Starmie cannot have any grass move. So you'll be forced to go standard with thunderbolt unless you change Pokemon.
As for Hitmontop, the thing is that revenge and brick break is redundant. Choose one and not the other as once again it's wasted move slots (why use both of them when really you only needed one?). Personally I'll stick with its signature move triple kick with mach punch (note: mach punch's special effect and along with all other quick attack like move makes it one of those exceptional cases where an attack of the same type is used). Endeavor is fine but the problem is that Hitmontop is too slow to pull it off... Try this when FRLG comes out if you want to use endeavor. Hitmontop- [speed + / sp.atk -] @ salac berry EV: atk and speed -endeavor -substitute -HP Ghost -reversal A move highly dependent on 1 hp, but it's still fun, and endeavor isn't too bad on a Pokemon with such low hp. EDIT: Err... Hitmontop is the slowest of all Hitmons. O.o; Hitmonlee is the fastest one. I think that you got unlucky with the IVs and got the EV 0 speed HItmonlee or something... |
Umm "HP ghost"
its ingame remember........... Well lee's Sp > tops's Sp blah sub-reversal never works out so hot with me..... don't know why. Gengar got HP ghost stuck on everything ^_^ |
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Ok well enough of that...........
what about the rest of the team............................. as for Starmie it would be a sin not to have thunderbolt now that u know grass moves are out of the question...................... IMO no matter what u say Brick break + revenge = redundant |
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Um... go ahead then. It's not worth it to use brick break only for the sake of breaking barriers, and I'm sure that anyone besides the guy who made PotD for Serebii.net will agree that having both revenge and brick break is redundant... Hitmontop isn't really that fast so the chance of you using revenge is higher than brick break except on Pokemon that aren't known for attacking, like Umbreon... but that's way too situational to use both revenge and brick break.
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^ points and nods
there u go..................... brick break is never used for the sole purpose of breaking barriers its used as a fighting move with decent pp..........thats it. ok so what now? do u have any other pokemon?? |
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- You don't even use Netbattle, and I doubt Frosty will send you the money for an air fare to Kanada - If you can beat them, then chances are you are better than they are, especially with odd movesets like the ones you have. Personally I wouldn't ask for grade 12 math help from a kindergartener, so... - Some moves are standard on a pokemon for a reason. For example, just because you want to be rebellious isn't an explanation as to why your donphan has HP ground or Mud slap instead of Earthquake, it's sheer stupidity. Creativity has its extents too. As to the Hitmonlee vs Hitmontop concerns: - Aside from Top having Endeavor instead of Lee's Reversal (and agility on top and whatnot), I don't see why Lee is too "slow for its capabilities", especially with salac berry being standard on reversalers. And yes, I dare you to equip a subversaler with a Petrya berry just to be "original" and see how well that works out. |
Houndoom- [speed + / sp.atk -] @ petaya berry
EV: atk and speed -substitute -reversal -sludge bomb -overheat *rolls eye* Even if he made it to Canada, I still can't battle him because I don't have the actual game ;p And on top of that, why didn't I fund someone else who's a lot more important to me (and also being a better battler) hmm? |
^ wonder who frosty's talking bout ^_^
XP hmmmmmm So got any new stuff shiney?? so far u only have 3 pokemon.......... Well if u want to battle me too then sorry i'm just as far away as frostweaver is.............^_^ |
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