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Well, at least the good thing is he won't be facing any Dusclops past 28. Seeing as Dusclops is a Tier 2 Pocket Monster, it'll show up from 7 - 27, after that, won't be a problem. If it pops up randomly after that, it'll be pretty rare. There's one guy, eppie iirc, on Smogon who encountered Wartortle on Battle 166, so it's not completely concrete that he won't see it afterwords, but at least rare, haha. XD; Although some Dusknoir won't exactly be fun to play with...
Dusknoir 3 Spell Tag (Stats: 152 167 155 85 155 58) Trick Room Shadow Punch Earthquake Ice Punch (EV'd: HP/Atk) If it leads... Reflect as it sets up Trick Room, you're going to have to toy around with it. Switching to Lucario on Shadow punch, switch to Mes on EQ, etc. Until you can hurt it enough to get by. Garchomps Outrage without an SD can 2HKO, 51.97% - 61.84%, but it'll be troublesome to get by. By the way, no need to thank me for the Garchomp set, I learned 'n' experienced how incredible it was from FastHippo. d(' 'd) |
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can i please have a final poke for my bt team.cant be botherd to post evs
i have [email protected] sandveil adamant nature earthquake crunch dragon claw swords dance [email protected] marvel modest nature hydropump icebeam hypnosis recover please help |
You really need EVs,
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So you think you're good with type coverage, yet you're missing the point of my reccomendation? What does Dragon Pulse cover? Dragon only. What does Flash Cannon cover? Rock and Ice. Plus, you get alot of extra juicy attack power from STAB. He already has an SD Outrage Chomp to deal with dragons. So he might as well get an aditional STAB move that does not lower his stats. Capeesh? |
Flash Cannon hits what Vacuum Wave already does for Super Effective, no point in limiting his effectiveness by giving him Flash Cannon.
By the way, Dragon Pulse pretty much guarantees neutral coverage, since the only thing that resists it, is Steel, which Fighting takes care of with ease. Now for my question, is speed or power better for the Battle Tower. I want to center a team around a sweeping Gliscor, but I don't know what stat boost I should use (or focus on) more. [email protected] Orb Hyper Cutter Jolly Nature EVs: 120 HP, 200 Atk, 188 Spe - Earthquake - Ice Fang - Swords Dance / Rock Polish - Roost I am leaning towards SD, but that won't help against faster pokemon that can OHKO. |
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could i use this ape
[email protected]??????? blaze naive nature spe252/atk173/spa173 (think that is right) flamethrower close combat grassknot thunderpunch oh and how do i use this set!!!!!!! thanx |
Guess what hits Rock and Ice for Super Effective? FIGHTING-TYPE ATTACKS. Guess what has better coverage overall? FIGHTING-TYPE ATTACKS. Guess what also gets STAB on Lucario? FIGHTING-TYPE ATTACKS.
Guess which type gets the second worst coverage in the game? STEEL-TYPE ATTACKS. Guess what type should be dropped when there are better options available? STEEL-TYPE ATTACKS. There are very few instances where Steel-type attacks are used and this time isn't one of them. So SkyPioneer, quit giving illogical advice or expect an infraction. :D |
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The moves themselves are a nice choice, if you can get an Electric Hidden power, though, put it over Thunderpunch. Otherwise, the set is fine. |
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eww hp electric.... hp ice please |
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sandveil adamant nature atk252/spe252/HP6 earthquake crunch dragon claw swords dance [email protected] marvel scale modest nature SpD252/spA252/spe6 hydropump icebeam hypnosis recover i added the evs.who else should i put in. i was thinkin of [email protected] static ????? nature spA???/atk???/spe??? explosion light screen thunderbolt ???????????? could i use this.please correct the ??????????s |
So yeah, I've been using this Machamp along side other pokes to see how it fares, rate it? *I made this up uber quickly*
Machamp @ Expert Belt / Life Orb (Usually LO) No Guard 252 Atk / 252 Speed / 6 Hp Fire Punch Ice Punch Thunder Punch Dynamic Punch Has worked Miracles with D-Punch!! Rate away! I give it 9.5/10 as it doesn't really cover everything, but it covers a lot and enough! |
I would never use a No Guard 'Champ in BT ;_;. With all the OHKO moves around Sheer Cold, Fissure, Horn Drill, and others he gets eaten up. Guts is defiantely the way to go in BT, Rest Talk with Guts is the way to go. :>
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/a/ae/068.png Machamp @ Leftovers Adamant Nature / Guts 252 HP / 252 Atk / 6 Spe Cross Chop Stone Edge / Ice Punch Rest Sleep Talk Stone Edge Vs. Ice Punch is just what kind of coverage you need. From lots of experience in BT I can say when you get to the higher numbers at least 1/2 of the trainers use OHKO. Personally though, I would prefer Swords Dance Luke > Champ. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/8/80/Spr_4p_448.png Lucario @ Life Orb Adamant Nature / Inner Focus 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 Def Swords Dance ExtremeSpeed Close Combat Stone Edge / Crunch / Ice Punch This lets you have a better chance of evading OHKO's, and removes flinching because of Inner Focus. Stone Edge Vs. Crunch Vs. Ice Punch is all about coverage really. |
Ooh I have a question about making a Battle Tower team.
Would it be wise create a BT team based around Sandstorm so you can get the SP Def raise and the accuracy decrease on Pokemon using Sand Veil? |
I'm pretty happy with my champ as it is, been working miracles.
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Well this is for the battle frontier's battle tower in emerald (that's third generation for those who are clueless), and I haven't tested it but whatever, it couldn't be any worse than my noob teams. In no particular order, my planned team:
Metagross @ Choice Band Trait: Clear Body EVs: 232 HP / 252 Atk / 24 Def Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk) - Meteor Miss - Earthquake - Explosion - Rock Slide CBgross was awesome enough in adv competitive, but the advantage in this is that the slow stallish teams will lose two members to this (one from the appropriate CB attack and another from Explosion). good defensive typing and Toxic immunity is amazing. Yea, Rock Slide is a filler but Gyarados could be a problem otherwise. Starmie @ Leftovers Trait: Natural Cure EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Surf - Ice Beam - Thunderbolt - Recover This is really fast (and trust me, I have the breeding resources available to make this have max speed. I mean it's pretty standard LOstar minus the LO because this is the previous generation lol. Regice @ Chesto Berry Trait: Clear Body EVs: 252 HP / 196 Def / 56 SAtk / 4 SDef Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk) - Ice Beam - Thunderbolt - Toxic - Rest The staller. Regice was actually really good when SR didn't exist for those who didn't know. Boltbeam is cool with 100 base SAtk and Toxic/ChestoRest is a good temporary staller. ----------- i'm building up a whole army of competitive pokemon for the entire frontier, so I can make tons of switches between pokemon if necessary...which means feel free to move stuff around. I would like to keep Meta though since it's pretty damn awesome. |
Yeah, they're decent one thing, I think Zen Headbutt might hit more pokemon for a SE hit or neutral damage than Rock Slide.
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http://www.smogon.com/rs/pokemon/metagross Anti - Why not Psych Up instead of Toxic on Regice, it'll allow you to copy those annoying double teamers if their giving you a hard time, as well as giving calm minders something to think about. |
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Oh woah there were to! Well I never did the BT in Gen 3 so I suppose I wouldn't know would I? :P http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/455.png Item : Leftovers Nature : Impish EV's : 252 HP / 16 Atk / 152 Def / 88 SpD Moveset :
I am all ears for removing Protect for an attacking move, perhaps Ice Fang so that I can hit things. I can still cripple Pokemon with Toxic while dishing out damage and aiding the stall with Slack Off. Yes this is a lead set, no I have no experience in the Battle Tower so I am all ears to suggestions. |
I may be rong, but I would recommend taking out yawn for EQ, two reasons :
1. EQ can take down Steels that Toxic doesn't hit. 2. You don't need two status moves, just keep toxic and wear them down ;) Hope I helped! |
Well I read that Yawn leads are effective and that is basically why I chose it.
I have a question about that though. If I use Yawn in the Battle Tower, will the opponent be likely to leave his or her Pokemon in the Battle or switch to avoid sleep? I haven't done a BT battle before and I am inclined to think that the AI's reasoning might be different to a person. |
I don't use yawn, but I don't think they switch, but EQ is kind of a must have here, otherwise it's game over for your Hippo when a steel comes out.
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Specs and Scarf didn't exist but CB did.
Double Teamers are hardly annoying though since they're easy to stall out or kill right away. Besides, copying their evasion doesn't really solve the problem (lack of ability to hurt them) and it destroys regice's ability to really stall. I actually I had to make the Sleep Talk vs. Toxic decision on my own since nobody said anything when I posted in in the sticky lol You know even in 4th gen Regice is pretty legit. SR (as far as I know) probably isn't a problem in the BT and it can just ChestoRest it off. I mean, SR was essentially THE reason of Regice's decline (amog others but that was 3/4 of it). |
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