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To your question, in my experiences, unless it's something like a U-turn Infernape (because Uxie was weak to it), they won't be switching out. (They don't really predict sleep) I've had rare moments where a Glaceon would switch out after I used Yawn, but it's rare enough to say don't worry so much about it. The AI will fall asleep (bar berries / items! Annoying lum berries can be annoying D:) and you'll get some time. What you do with that time, however, is completely up to you. Ack, sorry for the page wipe guys. D: |
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Item : Leftovers Nature : Impish EV's : 252 HP / 16 Atk / 152 Def / 88 SpD Moveset :
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Hippowdon sets up a Sandstorm and Yawn's on the first turn. He then protects to save himself from damage next turn as the opponent falls asleep. I can then either take them out with Hippo or switch to a suitable other member of my party preferably Cacturne who is my attacker of sorts. Leech Seed, Substitute and Focus Punch all there to reap havoc while I evade using Sand Veil and Brightpowder. Politoed is my filling Special Defender and can do some Toxicing to soften the opposing team. I'm not sure if I should go with Ice Beam or Haze. Ice Beam gives me better coverage which I probably need more, but Haze is very tempting to prevent Pokemon setting up on me. I haven't used this team yet, but I want some advice before I start training it to see how it fares. |
Do have any purley offensive Pocket Monsters in here? Leftovers on Poli and Hippo can't do, 1 of the same item per team. What's the point of Protect on Hippo? Put Ice Fang or Stone Edge over it. Cacturne could be replaced with Garchomp, who will make great use of the Sandstorm with Brightpowder or Lum Berry. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/c/cb/445.png Garchomp @ Lum Berry / Bright Powder 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 6 HP Jolly Nature / Sand Veil Swords Dance Substitute Earthquake Outrage Anyways. So after ending my streak earlier today at 109, I decided I would give BT another go. Why? Because I am totally hooked now and want to know how to come up on top. So, I wanted to focus on one team member this time around, and Uber tier dragon by the name of Latias. Why not Latios though, I’ve heard many people ask. He has higher SpA. The reason behind this is because I wanted to run a Calm Mind set, one that Latias totally outclasses Latios in. Her spectacular SpD allows her to last longer, and power up even more. The following set was found on Smogon University, and is located here. I need help designing the team round her though, to the lead and the Physical Sweeper. I would prefer Yawn lead, but whatever you think is right. Also, I need a nickname for Latias ;_;. Thanks~ http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/380.png Latias @ Soul Dew 112 HP / 204 SpA / 192 Spe Timid Nature / Levitate Calm Mind Recover Dragon Pulse Grass Knot |
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oh yeh,zetta-chan protect is there so u can use yawn on the first turn then protect on the second so u dont take any damage.it makes perfect sense it works like hypnosis.it can work with wish to. finally,how much attack would a fully attack ev'd ,naive,infernape at level 50.thanx |
yawn then the pokemon will not switch in the bt...better to yawn and setup another poke like chomp,luke or scizor.EQ>ice fang as the extra power and stab is needed.if you face a flier.just yawn and switch!the bt pokes rarly or never switch!iv just gottten into the third gen battle tower
thanks to anti pop so expect some Qs from me since you seem experienced in that area! zetta chan:soul dew dont work in the battle tower!! |
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So, what should I use for Latias. Maybe Latios. What set?
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Okay, so I really want to get into the Battle Tower scene, but I need a lot of help in doing so. I'm willing to EV train, breed, etc...and all that, but I need help learning how to do it first. In my mind, I don't have a definite lineup, but I want to get used to using Tyranitar first. I need confirmation on how to:
1) Get proper IVs (or at least check them) 2) EV train in general (any help videos would be appreciated) 3) How to do this all without Wifi (please don't say it's impossible :<) |
Well, Vance, you could always check the guides. If you want some help EV training, Bulbapedia lists the EV values of defeating each Poke on its website on each of the Pokemon's pages. IVs can be check with an IV calc online, Metalkid, etc. If u get a Poke with bad IVs for battling, use it as a parent. Since only 3 of the IVs get passed down from the parents iirc, you might get some better qualities if you keep breeding.
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I'm testing out a few specific (lol, bad evs, ivs, natures) Pokes to see if I can get used to them. I really like Tyranitar/Garchomp/Gengar, and I CAN breed all three of them. So I was thinking on making a doubles team, with some random fodder as the fourth.
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http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/330.pngVs. http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/373.png Well, starting the new team with Latias didn’t work out guys. Oh well, time to regroup and move on. Anyways, I knew I wanted a yawn lead, so I went for Uxie. Why? Only because BeachBoy always seems to get fabulous wins with his, and plus I love the little floating brain. Anyways, now it’s time for a Dragon type on my team. I’m going out of the usual, and not using Garchomp. I feel he is way to overused, and I want to try something a lot different. So here’s the decision I need to make, Salamence or Flygon. I know Salamence totally rips through Flygon, but lets look deeper. Flygon’s great typing makes it immune to sandstorm and good ability with Levitate. He/she also gets that great Special Defense boost in the Sandstorm, when Salamence does not. The problem is he has a measly 100 base attack, not even comparing to Salamence’s 135 Base attack. Salamence gets the amazing ability Intimidate, already crippling a foe. He is immune from Earthquake because of his typing, has great stats, but downfalls in sandstorm. So I need help, which one? Though Flygon’s base attack is lower, here are his damage calculations. Outrage vs. max HP / max Def Suicune: 43.56%-51.49% Outrage vs. max HP / max Def Vaporeon: 56.9%-67.03% Outrage vs. max HP / max Def Swampert: 51.49%-60.64% Outrage vs. max HP / max Def Zapdos: 55.99%-66.15% Outrage vs. max HP / max Def Cresselia: 38.51% - 45.5% Earthquake vs. max HP / max Def Jirachi: 79.95%-94.06% Earthquake vs. max HP / min Def Metagross: 97% - 100% Earthquake vs. max HP / min Def Tyranitar: 100% Fire Punch vs. max HP / max Def Skarmory: 38.32% - 45.51% Fire Punch vs. max HP / max Def Bronzong: 43.2% - 51.48% Fire Blast vs. max HP / min SpD Skarmory: 63.47% - 74.85% Fire Blast vs. max HP / 92 SpD Sassy Bronzong: 37.87% - 44.97% http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/a/a8/Spr_b_g4_330.png @ Choice Band 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 6 HP Adamant Nature / Levitate Earthquake Outrage Stone Edge U-Turn http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/b/bf/Spr_b_g4_373.png@ Life Orb Rash Nature / Intimidate 120 Atk / 252 SpA / 136 Spe Brick Break Draco Meteor Flamethrower Roost |
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This is actually incorrect as the Sandstorm raises the Sp Def of ROCK type Pokemon. Flygon is not hurt by the Sandstorm, but it does not receive a Sp Def boost. To answer your question, I would personally go with Flygon because he isn't that much weaker, he can still reap some havoc. Also with U-Turn and it's ground typing it is able to ease prediction a lot easier than Salamence although Intimidate is envied here. Flygon is a great team player and a with Outrage he is really able to damage teams. |
Flygon does not get a Special Defense boost from Sandstorm; only Rock types do. As for the Dragons, they're two different sets. It's hard to compare, but Flygon probably outdamages Salamence since it's focused on one offensive stat.
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Hmm, well, I'd say it depends more on your third Pocket Monster. If you're going to use Uxie (I'm assuming you have a good one available then) who would your third Pocket Monster be thanks to either of them.
Salamence's intimidate is awesome. Flygon's power is relatively fine. But both can't boost stats quickly, and don't look like the centerpiece to me. (They seem more like third party importance rather than "focus on the Y sweep") The point of Yawn on Uxie was to render the opponent useless for a couple of turns to set up screens & sweep. I'd say if you want to compare it should be Choice Band vs. Choice Band. And then I'd prefer Salamence because you'll be able to 2HKO Zong more, while Flygon whistles in the dark. I'm not a huge fan of Choice Items in the BT either because there's not a whole lot of room to go refreshing them. Hence why I like Salamence more due to more sheer power. Let's say you had one team (Uxie + Salamence) and another (Uxie + Flygon) who's your third Pocket Monster? - - - Also, Vance, great to hear you want to get involved here. :D |
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I know this is kinda weird, but i have a Crystal battle tower team=3
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http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_rotom.gif Rotom @ Choice Scarf Ability: Levitate EVs: 6 Hp / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Trick - Thunderbolt - Shadow Ball - Hidden Power Ice / Thunderwave Trick scarf Rotom !! Basically what this does is Trick its scarf first turn and locks the foe into something silly aka a stat up move or something which luke and latios dont care about (iirc Latios and Luke resist every type between them), this then allows Latios and Lucario it eat things with a free set up =]. Im considering Thunderwave to trick scarf and then t-wave. Im currently using hp ice hower, because dragons are newb=/ --- http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_lucario.gif Lucario (M) @ Life Orb Ability: Inner Focus EVs: 252 Atk / 6 Def / 252 Spd Adamant nature (+Atk, -S.Atk) - Swords Dance - Shadow Claw - Extremepseed - Close Combat Standard SD Luke, you all should know what it does, nothing can take + 6 assaults from this. Im using Shadow Claw for the crit rate and because i kinda forgot to get myself another one with crunch after forgetting crunch was an egg move >: --- http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_latios.gif Latios (M) @ Lum Berry Ability: Levitate EVs: 6 Hp / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk) - Calm Mind - Dragon Pulse - Grass Knot - Recover / Rest Latios !! Again abusive of the turns Rotom grants , sweeping stuff afer some calm minds =]. I suppose Rest could be used to heal status if i lock the opponent into it with said scarf ? Idk Help ? Sorry i couldnt go more in depth, but im short for time lol |
Cody's New BT Team
Alright, I've decided on Salamence. I have been testing the two in BT, and Salamence works much better with Uxie. So now, my team is looking like this. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/f/f9/Spr_4p_480.png Uxie ; Wisdom @ Light Clay 252 HP / 126 Def / 126 SpD Bold Nature / Levitate Reflect Light Screen Yawn Grass Knot / Flash / Thunderbot Comments: Yawn Uxie lead with Dual screens. I get reseting to get my Uxie Bold with great IVs of 31/X/31/20/29/X. These are great, and take great advantage of the set. The last moveslot is filler, Grass Knot is for heavy rocks and grounds come in Uxie's way, Flash is to decrease the foes accuracy so the foe has even more trouble with OHKO, and Thunderbolt is for Gyara. Thanks BeachBoy for the EVs and moveset. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/a/a6/Spr_4d_373.png Salamence ; Dracorath @ Life Orb Rash Nature / Intimidate 252 SpA / 120 Atk / 136 Spe Brick Break Draco Meteor Flamethrower Roost Comments: After testing between Salamence and Flygon; Salamence won. Why? He had an arsenal of moves going from physical to special and had more powerful stats. He gets Intimidate, which is an amazing ability. His Flying makes him Immune to ground moves, and doesn't need the ability Levitate. Since he is at Life Orb, he is not trapped into one move and isn't walled by Skarm or Blissey. It was an easy choice over Flygon. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/e/ec/448.png Paladin ; Lucario @ Choice Specs Modest Nature / Inner Focus 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Def Shadow Ball Aura Sphere Vacuum Wave Hidden Power [Rock] Comments: Well, I really didn't want any Choice items on my team but I guess it came to them. If anyone has a good set that can boost Lukes SpA without Choice items, I really need it. Shadow Ball for Ghosts and Psychics, Aura Sphere for STAB and -- Accuracy. Vacuum Wave for those darn Focus Sashes, and Hidden Power [Rock] for Ice and Flying types. I picked Lucario because he is an ideal answer to Weavile who is a threat to this team. At first I wanted Swords Dance, but then changed my mind. I need help with this set. Quote:
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is this set more threatening than the ape set i posted earlier
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I think that set will work fine, though. My SubPunch Azumarill (who was later replaced by Lucario, then Scizor) did an excellent job at sub-punching. (other moves being Aqua Ring & Jet) So I'm sure you'll be able to net some huge hits with it. |
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