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Pt Team Revamped...thanks to shoddy
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/0/0d/Spr_4p_482.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/a/ac/Spr_4p_233.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/a/af/485.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/4/47/Spr_4p_212_m.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/0/01/Spr_4p_068.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/7/7d/143.png I just started using shoddy battle to find the faults in my teams and see if they were any good and so the previous team has been changed a lot. The team has strong offencive that is also pokemon that are also firm on the defencive side and good type coverage for each pokemon to counter what is switched in.------------------------------ http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/9/9b/Ani482MS.png Azelf @ Focus Sash Levitate Relaxed nature HP 4/ SpA 252/ Spe 252 ~ Stealth Rock ~ Psychic ~ Fire Blast ~ Explosion Suicidal Azelf can take down most of the common leads and with Stealth Rock set up provides good support by weakening the opponents team for the others to KO in one or a few hits. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/0/0f/Ani233MS.png Porygon2 @ Leftovers Trace Bold nature HP 252/ Def 120/ SpD 96/ SpA 40 ~ Tri Attack ~ Chage Beam ~ Ice Beam ~ Recover A special offensive pokemon with good defences that has a movepool that can take out most types that offer a threat. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/0/03/Ani485MS.png Heatran @ Choice Scarf Flash Fire Timid nature HP 4/ SpA 252/ Spe 252 ~ Earth Power ~ Fire Blast ~ Dark Pulse ~ Dragon Pulse Added heatran another strong special attacker that has a movepool that takes out the other types that Porygon can't. Put Dragon and Dark Pulse to cover psychics, ghosts and other Dragons. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/b/b4/Ani212MS.png Scizor @ Life Orb Technician Adamant nature HP 32/ Atk 252/ Spe 224 ~ Sword Dance ~ Bullet Punch ~ X-Scissor ~ Roost A physical sweeper who is not so fragile with a killer STAB, Technician, Life Orb Bullet Punch that can be boosted with Sword Dance to pick off those who can not resist. X-Scissor is another STAB move that can take out if any grass or psychic types if any. Roost is there to bring it back if it can. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/c/cc/Ani068MS.png Machamp @ Leftovers No Guard Adamant nature HP 252/ Atk 252/ Spe 6 ~ DynamicPunch ~ Stone Edge ~ Sleep Talk ~ Rest A sturdy 4 armed beast with this EV spread, leftovers and rest he not only move in for what he can kill but hang in and damage a lot. Definitely a favourite of mine, it has wrecked teams for me before and is a good physical choice for this team as it can also provide some defence. I added Earthquake to this set so it could take out the fires and electrics that the others can't. http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/12/Ani143MS.png Snorlax @ Leftovers Thick Fat Impish nature HP 168/ Def 140/ SpD 200 ~ Curse ~ Body Slam ~ Crunch ~ Rest Curselax is amazing, nearly impossible to take down after one or a few curses and can tear through some teams all depending on if its moves are any good on the foe. Crunch covers the ghosts that Body Slam cant do any thing to. It is one the defences of the team. ------------------------------ |
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I would personally use Porygon2 >>Porygon z with a charge beam , ice beam, tri attack , recover set. This still lets you sweep whilst providing some extra bulk against Gyarados and Mence (trace intimidate). Next, Rotom H can pull the same set off as Zam, but is better providing a check against scizor and Lucario for you. Ill come back later if i spot more issues. |
Alright thanks, by accident I put down Porygon's EVs in Alakazam's EVs :B
I will try out Porygon2 and Rotom-h in this team before changing it. Yeah maybe Fire Punch but still not sure, Earthquake on champ was for type coverage but might use that on a CBlax with Fire Punch as you mentioned. I will change Earthquake to Sleep talk but not sure about the EVs Yes light clay is perfect thanks :D |
Don't use Earthquake on Fighting-types. Fighting and Ground have similar coverage, so that makes having both on Machamp's move set redundant.
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What is the point of your post Goldenbagon you quoted my whole post just to change it to light clay when I said I will and now already have!
Would someone delete his post its just taking up space. |
Oh i meant to mention, if you do use Rotom, use Trick Scarf so you can handle/revenge Mixape and what not ;).
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That Porygon-Z can't sweep at all. Leftovers is useless on it, since it's going to die anyway. Life Orb or a pinch berry (preferably Salac). I disagree with HP Water, since hitting on a few specific targets for super effective at the cost of hitting everything else WEAKER than even a resisted Tri Attack. One of the best sets it can run is the Agility sweeper:
Porygon-Z @ Life Orb Modest 252 SpA/252 Spe/6 HP Tri Attack Dark Pulse Agility HP Fighting This set hits everything in the game for neutral, and most of the common switch ins for super effective. 405 SpA and 279 Speed is decent, but after an Agility, you get a massive 558 Speed, enough to outrun Timid ScarfGar and OHKO it with Dark Pulse. HP Fighting lets it hit Heatran and Tyranitar for super effective; dealing up to 66.05%-78.40% to Heatran and 74.26%-88.12% to Max HP Tyranitar. |
Okay well I thought up this Snorlax set:
Snorlax @ Leftovers Thick Fat Careful nature HP 168/ Atk 200/ Def 140 ~ Body Slam ~ Earthquake ~ Fire Punch / Crunch ~ Rest What do you guys think? Should I use this instead? |
No, you shouldn't. Sleep Talk-less, Resting Snorlax is setup fodder for sweepers from both ends of the attacking spectrum.
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Yeah, and maybe the physical/special threat can Dragon Dance/Nasty Plot/whatever as you switch...
The point being, resting Snorlax needs Sleep Talk, or else everything will just set up on him. And do you REALLY want enemy Gyarados or Salamence to get in a free Dragon Dance, or Scizor a free Swords Dance? |
I have swapped Alakazam for Heatran who can get rid of Scizor as you said and Dragon Pulse, Dark Pulse and Earth Power covering a lot of the other types the team did not have much coverage over before and for the psychic that Alakazam had I replaced Uxie for suicide Azelf.
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Instead of Dark Pulse, use HP Electric. Super effective Dark Pulse is weaker than a STAB Fire Blast.
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Hidden Power Electric is for bulky water switch ins which none of your other move do much too. 3 fighting weaks and no resist/immunity is kinda eww, i still think scarf rotom would work here >>tran. |
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STAB'd, Neutral Fire Blast: 120*1.5=180 BP Which one's larger? |
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Do you know how Hidden Power works? I'll explain it. HP Electric is a Base 70 Electric move, meaning all who are hit for super effective by electric moves are hit for super effective by HP Electric. Things like Gyarados wall your Heatran without it. 70 x 2 = 140 x 2 = 280. That's how hard you're hitting Gyarados. So, in closing, HP Electric > Dark Pulse. |
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The real reason is that I only know how to make HP electric in Shoddy and I am using Shoddy to test my platinum team and battle against others with it because I can not use Wifi! |
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What I am saying is I can not calculate hidden power for use in the game, I can only use it in shoddy because it does it for you!
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Hold on a second! Stop arguing in circles, especially when these folks are trying to help you.
Well, if you really up to it, keep Dark Pulse for WiFi, but it's going to be more beneficial if you try SRing a bit harder for a good HP type (a la HP Electric) |
There is no argument!
I will use HP Electric anyway but I don't know how to calculate it for in-game. Could a moderator lock this thread please. |
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