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Lana. December 7th, 2008 3:56 PM

Idea - An original MD fic?
 
So, this is an idea I've had rolling around in my head for awhile. I wanted to write and original Mystery Dungeon fic. At the time, I was also thinking about an idea with the Eeveelutions and their respective types in a war of some sort. So, I combined the two to make it easier on my head xD

So, what I have so far is an interview (like at the beginning of the games, only more... interactive, I guess?) with the main character. I want to write a prologue, but I'm not entirely sure how to go about it... and I have chapter one (or the rough draft) done, and am currently working on the second chapter.

The main character is an Eevee, and the majority will be written from her point of view (first person). Her partners are a Turtwig and Pikachu (with whom the Eevee may get involved in a relationship - though right now its just hinted at).

... And yes, it must be an Eevee. Eventually, it will play a big part in the plot.

I haven't got all of the filler figured out, but I do have quite a few of my major plot points sorted out... kind of. I have a lot of planning to do, and I'm going to attempt and get it done before I really get in deep with the story.

It will most likely venture into PG-13 at some points, but nothing too awful. (Murder, good character death, betrayal, mating, etc.)

I'll wrap this up with a question: Would it be possible to have an Espeon learn Hypnosis? Again, it's something I'd like for the plot. I can work around it, but it would be awkwardish...
(And, if this idea has already been done, let me know. I don't want some flamer come on and say I stole the idea when I didn't.)

JX Valentine December 7th, 2008 6:12 PM

I don't mean to offend you with any of the following advice, but I will sound a bit biting. It's just that I don't know what angles you're taking, so my mind's automatically thinking you might be headed down routes I've seen before.

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Originally Posted by *Lanee (Post 4178201)
So, what I have so far is an interview (like at the beginning of the games, only more... interactive, I guess?) with the main character.

I'm a bit wary about this idea. I've seen the quiz at the beginning of the games get pulled into fanfiction before, and what the author did was essentially have the character make a commentary on the quiz that pops up at the beginning of the game. It was jarring, and the formatting was a bit of a turn-off, to be honest. I would suggest at most (as in, if you had to do it), have it be pure character-character interaction, and even then, I would suggest avoiding a piece in which you'd end up having very little description. You could have a story start off with a conversation, but when it's just like this:

You see a treasure box? What do you do?
Go open it!
It's a trap!

"Gee, I don't know. Maybe go open it?"


That tends to be a boring opener, and you want to lure in your readers with some excitement or something that they can mentally visualize in general.

If you meant "interactive" as in the reader would get in on it, that might still have the same effect in that we're reading essentially a quiz, but we're not entirely drawn into the world that you're creating.

Additionally, if I may ask, what storyline are you going with? I ask because most MD fics tend to use the storyline of the first games (kid gets sent to Pokémon world and is transformed into a Pokémon with no memory of how it happened). You could still possibly pull this off, but it's just a warning in that you may need to really be careful with the rest of the fic (in the same way one would be careful about writing an OT story if they have the main character wake up late initially for plot purposes).

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The main character is an Eevee, and the majority will be written from her point of view (first person).
Tip: Don't switch points of view. At all. It's a bit difficult to stick with first person, but it makes your story consistent and makes it easier for the reader to get into the mindset of the character (which you want).

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I'll wrap this up with a question: Would it be possible to have an Espeon learn Hypnosis?
This would be treading dangerously close to the Exploding Charizard (ignoring canon for the benefit of your characters due to a lack of knowledge as to how to work around it) territory depending on what exactly you were planning on doing with that Hypnosis, so for simplicity's sake, I'm just going to advise you to avoid it. Trust me. It would be more interesting to go with the awkward method and seeing how you can iron it out to make things believable, rather than simply cop-out with the easy way out (teaching a Pokémon a move it can't actually learn).

Lana. December 7th, 2008 6:48 PM

On the contrary, some constructive criticism was what I really wanted. And, I don't think it was biting at all ^^

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Originally Posted by Xanthine (Post 4178532)
I would suggest at most (as in, if you had to do it), have it be pure character-character interaction, and even then, I would suggest avoiding a piece in which you'd end up having very little description. You could have a story start off with a conversation, but when it's just like this:

You see a treasure box? What do you do?
Go open it!
It's a trap!

"Gee, I don't know. Maybe go open it?"


That tends to be a boring opener, and you want to lure in your readers with some excitement or something that they can mentally visualize in general.

If you meant "interactive" as in the reader would get in on it, that might still have the same effect in that we're reading essentially a quiz, but we're not entirely drawn into the world that you're creating.

I'm not entirely sure what you meant about the character-character interaction. If you meant it was two people physically sitting down, then that'd be an interesting idea...

Right now, it won't be like a multiple choice quiz, it'll be more like an interviewer branching off by asking questions depending on the answer. However, it is mainly just question and answer right now, with maybe an action here and there...

And no, the reader isn't involved in any way with the quiz, if that's what you meant by that.

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Originally Posted by Xanthine (Post 4178532)
Additionally, if I may ask, what storyline are you going with? I ask because most MD fics tend to use the storyline of the first games (kid gets sent to Pokémon world and is transformed into a Pokémon with no memory of how it happened). You could still possibly pull this off, but it's just a warning in that you may need to really be careful with the rest of the fic (in the same way one would be careful about writing an OT story if they have the main character wake up late initially for plot purposes).

*Frowns* It would really create that much of a problem? Huh. I'm not challenging you or anything (you have much more experience than I do here), that just strikes me as a bit odd. *Thinks* It could be possible to make it so she isn't... That could actually work out okay, really. I'd have to redo chapter one somewhat, but if it makes it easier...

But, yes, she was initially a human who lost her memory. I'll think about it, seeing as you advise against it.


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Originally Posted by Xanthine (Post 4178532)
Tip: Don't switch points of view. At all. It's a bit difficult to stick with first person, but it makes your story consistent and makes it easier for the reader to get into the mindset of the character (which you want).

Okay. I think I was only planning to switch viewpoints for maybe one scene, anyways, so that'll be fine.


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Originally Posted by Xanthine (Post 4178532)
It would be more interesting to go with the awkward method and seeing how you can iron it out to make things believable, rather than simply cop-out with the easy way out (teaching a Pokémon a move it can't actually learn).

*Nods* Got it. I do have a way of getting around it, I was just wondering what kind of reaction I would get if I did suddenly just have a Hypnosis-able Espeon.

I do thank you for your advice - it made me think some more, which I needed to do.

JX Valentine December 7th, 2008 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by *Lanee (Post 4178600)
I'm not entirely sure what you meant about the character-character interaction. If you meant it was two people physically sitting down, then that'd be an interesting idea...

Or otherwise interacting with one another, rather than just a "VOICE OF GOD IN A DARK ROOM/ROOM FULL OF COLORFUL SWIRLY PATTERNS AND NOTHING ELSE" feel you get at the beginning of the games.

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Right now, it won't be like a multiple choice quiz, it'll be more like an interviewer branching off by asking questions depending on the answer. However, it is mainly just question and answer right now, with maybe an action here and there...
Yeah, that might actually turn some people off, depending on how you do it. Problem is, it might come off as you're trying to do an all-dialogue-with-nothing-happening kind of fic, which usually has the kinds of weaknesses I pointed out earlier: turning off the reader because you're not giving them something to visualize. Remember that the first pages of a fic are what will give your readers an impression of the kind of writing to expect in the rest of the story, so you'll want to come off strong.

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*Frowns* It would really create that much of a problem?
Unfortunately, it would. See, the problem is the same thing as I brought up earlier. The first chapter or two gives the reader an idea of what to expect. If you have your initial chapters be incredibly similar to every other MD fic out there, we're going to assume the rest of your story's probably going to follow suit. Unfortunately, with MD fics, you have the main character follow the games, as I've mentioned. (Human-turned-Pokemon wakes up with no memory of how they've wound up in a strange world, trapped in a strange body. Said human-turned-Pokemon brings this up to partner. Partner may or may not shrug it off and eventually brings human-turned-Pokemon into the world of rescue teams. Human-turned-Pokemon is involved with a prophecy, and you get the idea.)

Some people have no problem with this. Others will probably wander to other fics because they'll assume they've read this kind of thing before.

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*Nods* Got it. I do have a way of getting around it, I was just wondering what kind of reaction I would get if I did suddenly just have a Hypnosis-able Espeon.
Yeah, because Espeon's a popular Pokemon, you'll get strange looks if you do it out of nowhere.

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I do thank you for your advice - it made me think some more, which I needed to do.
No problem. And good luck.


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