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˚° ﺎ ﮟ סּ ﻛ °˚ December 14th, 2008 7:53 AM

Omg haha this guy is a n00b... [OU RMT]
 
First thing first, this is a D/P team, so no more "SCIZOR W1LL E4T j00" please

Hey there ^__^
I'm fairly inexperianced at making teams, but i just wanted to get an idea of how to improve this, or maybe its so bad I should scrap it altogether =p


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/bronzong.png
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Sassy
252 Hp/86 Atk/80 Def/92 Sp.Def
Stealth Rock
Hypnosis
Gyro Ball
Earthquake

Standard Zong set is standard, I have been considering switching to Azelf or Aero though =S

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/gliscor.png
Gliscor @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
Sand Veil (Hyper Cutter if using Stone Edge)

180 HP / 56 Atk / 56 Def / 218 Spe

-Roost
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge / Ice Fang / Aerial Ace / X-Scissor
(More details here)


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/alakazam.png
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Timid
252 Sp.Atk/4 Sp.Def/252 Spd
Charge Beam
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast

Charge Beam for the epic 70% chance of Sp.Atk boost and it owns the unsuspecting Gyrados i so often see =p. No explanation needed for the other moves. I'll put this out about mid-game as most suspect Specs set so they send out a counter that i can beat up with another move but mostly so T-Tar's SandStorm + LO damage doesn't eat it alive

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/tyranitar.png
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Adamant Jolly
4 Hp/252 Atk/252 Spd
Crunch
Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Stone Edge

Standard DD set. Bring it out mid-late game and eat their team. SandStream helps Gliscor survive a few weak special attacks aswell.

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/porygon2.png
Porygon2 @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/160 Def/98 SpD
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave/Toxic
Recover

I was advised to take this little ducky up to stop Salamence and Gyrados. Also works as a counter to many other common pokemon such as Jolteon, Heatran, etc

Ty Vance^^

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Jolly
252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Sp.Def
Earthquake
Aerial Ace
Stone Edge
Night Slash

Revenge killer, he is awesome, although I have been considering putting a Life orb on him, but im just a bit skittish about the power drop. Lols at Scarf lead Heatran

Everything on this team is probably standard, as I said i'm inexperianced
Have fun =p
Standard team is standard
Changes in bold


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http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/starmie.png
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Timid
160 Hp/216 Spd/132 Sp.Atk 156 HP / 154 DEF / 200 SPEED

Rapid Spin
Surf
ThunderBolt
Recover

Yes, it be mah RSer, and she still has enough Speed and Special Attack to take out a few pokes while shes at it. You wouldn't believe how many Gyrados' have switched into this =S
Dropped because of no real need of a RSer, due to me having no SR weak pokemon

Dark Azelf December 14th, 2008 8:43 AM

I'd make Gliscor SD so then you are faster than Lucario who is an idiot with ice Punch / hidden power ice.

Jolly >>>>>>>>>>>>>Adamant on DDTar or its not worth using since its too slow and gets outran by anything above 333 speed, at least with jolly you can outrun base 115's after a DD (Azelf, Raikou and Starmie). Consider Black Glasses or Life orb to let you sweep better (Black Glasses enable you to 2hko swampert after a dd with Crunch at the cost of no LO recoil before anyone says "newb" ).


As for starmie, you are aware that a +1 LO Gyarados OHKO's that spread if SR is up right ?

156 HP / 154 DEF / 200 SPEED (347 speed for infernape) is better and lets you live a + 1 DD LO Eq or Stone Edge even with SR and SS up 100% of the time, so yeah. I also doubt you need rapid spin tbh (no SR weaks and RS is useless outside of stall anyway), Ice Beam would be better..


If this is for platinum id watch out for Scizor >.<

˚° ﺎ ﮟ סּ ﻛ °˚ December 14th, 2008 8:48 AM

ok, I will make changes ^^
And no, this Isn't for Plat =p
Scizor is scary

I think I'm going to ditch Zong aswell, I'm just wondering if Azelf or Aero is better as a lead...

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Naive
4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
SR
Explosion
Psychic
Taunt/Fire Blast

or...

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Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Taunt
SR
EarthQuake
Rock Slide

Or even this, as it counters both of the above

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Adamant
204 HP/76 Atk/224 SpD
Meteor Mash
Bullet Punch
Stealth Rock
Earthquake

genesis42 December 14th, 2008 4:41 PM

Fire Punch > Earthquake for Tyanitar. Takes out Scizor (who doesn't OHKO w/BP), Forry, Zong, Skarm, Gross, Luke etc..

SkyPioneer December 14th, 2008 4:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genesis42 (Post 4195512)
Fire Punch > Earthquake for Tyanitar. Takes out Scizor (who doesn't OHKO w/BP), Forry, Zong, Skarm, Gross, Luke etc..

First of all, this isn't Platnium. Scizor isn't as much of a threat as it was in DP.
Secondly, EQ does a fair amount of damage to Scizor with EQ.

Matt-O December 14th, 2008 6:41 PM

I might recommend that you consider sucker punch on Duggy instead of Night Slash. Both have their benefits, but I personally like having priority. It's up to you though.

. December 15th, 2008 4:17 PM

I love the team. I especially admire your use of Charge Beam Alakazam. It's a fun thing to use, albeit hard and sometimes impossible to set up. One thing to note is that Rapid Spin isn't really necessary for this team. You have no Stealth Rock weak Pokemon, and Spikes/Toxic Spikes is pretty rare nowadays. Starmie can either take the role of a Life Orb sweeper, which can help break down physical walls for things like DDTar and SD Gliscor, or just be replaced, since you have no definite Salamence check. For this reason, I think that a Porygon2 could be used to not only handle Salamence, but to completely stop Gyarados cold. It also makes a nice switch into Jolteon, Heatran, etc...and provides Paralysis support:

Porygon2 @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/160 Def/98 SpD
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave/Toxic
Recover

Max™ December 15th, 2008 5:42 PM

I dont know if its just me but I might consider substitute somewhere on ala because if you want that chance to keep your spatt boosts, you can go sub then lefties over LO

genesis42 December 15th, 2008 7:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkyPioneer (Post 4195523)
First of all, this isn't Platnium. Scizor isn't as much of a threat as it was in DP.
Secondly, EQ does a fair amount of damage to Scizor with EQ.

Perhaps he should've addressed that in his OP.

˚° ﺎ ﮟ סּ ﻛ °˚ December 16th, 2008 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Wynaut (Post 4197959)
I dont know if its just me but I might consider substitute somewhere on ala because if you want that chance to keep your spatt boosts, you can go sub then lefties over LO

Nah, I think I'll stick with him the way he is

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vance (Post 4197724)
*I love the team. Blah Blah Blah... For this reason, I think that a Porygon2 could be used to not only handle Salamence, but to completely stop Gyarados cold. It also makes a nice switch into Jolteon, Heatran, etc...and provides Paralysis support:

Porygon2 @ Leftovers
Bold
252 HP/160 Def/98 SpD
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Thunder Wave/Toxic
Recover

*Yay *Hugs* Thank you ^__^

Well, it does certaintly look good on paper, and my team does look as though it will get fairly munched by Mence and friends
I will see if I can get my hands on one of these. Tyvm ^__^

And also, I realy need to know whether i should switch Bronzong to one of these
Quote:

Originally Posted by Me
[email protected] Sash
Naive
4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
SR
Explosion
Psychic
Taunt/Fire Blast

or...

[email protected] Sash
Jolly
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Taunt
SR
EarthQuake
Rock Slide

Or even this, as it counters both of the above

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Adamant
204 HP/76 Atk/224 SpD
Meteor Mash
Bullet Punch
Stealth Rock
Earthquake

One more thing, can anyone give me any advise on whether to switch my dugtrio to an Adamant ScarfTrio to counter Heatran?


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