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Zebra Thunderhead January 8th, 2009 1:42 PM

The "Is my Pokémon legit or not?" Thread
 
This is the official thread for asking if your Pokémon is legitimate or not, cause threads solely asking if something is legit or not gets really annoying. Before posting, you might want to consult this thread. If you still have questions, post here.

Rules
- No going off-topic. Self explanitory.
- Don't post comments like, "OMFG ITZ HACKED U NOOB HOW CAN U NOT TELL". Such comments will result in an infraction for spam.
- Myself and Horizon have lives. We can't watch this thread 24/7. If you see spam, report it. Don't mini-mod. Mini-mod is subject to laughing at.
- You must state the following:
Quote:

Pokemon
Level caught
Ball caught
Location caught
Trainer caught
Moveset
Other information can be provided, such as the EV/IVs, date caught, ribbons, held items, etc. Hopefully this will be of some use to some of you.

pokemew January 8th, 2009 2:29 PM

hey i have a shiny movie shaymin everything is okay except that the ot is in blue instead of red , is it legit cause i heard all movie shaymins have a red ot

Zero Avenged January 8th, 2009 3:12 PM

No I'm pretty sure that the trainer is blue. But as for it being shiny I am not sure....

randomspot555 January 8th, 2009 6:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow!!!! (Post 4263005)
No I'm pretty sure that the trainer is blue. But as for it being shiny I am not sure....

According to the event list linked in the OP, it can't be shiny.

Zebra Thunderhead January 8th, 2009 7:06 PM

Eigakan Shaymin can be shiny. I need to update the list. Not sure about the OT color though.

Pingouin_7 January 9th, 2009 9:35 AM

Not at all. No 4th gen shinies can be shiny except WCS Milotic and the ticket events. And it's OT is supposed to be red, by the way.

Kit-Tsukasa January 9th, 2009 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pingouin_7 (Post 4264226)
Not at all. No 4th gen shinies can be shiny except WCS Milotic and the ticket events. And it's OT is supposed to be red, by the way.

It is actually unknown whether or not WC pokemon can or cannot be shiny. There's too little evidence to prove either side since hex and pokesav can't prove either at this point, at least not until some well known trade personally acquires it themselves (say you possibly SRed for it and finally got one as an example). Therefore, at this point, it's really up to the individual themselves to believe which is true. And yes, the OT should be red, which means the shaymin is hacked anyways.

LethalTexture January 9th, 2009 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pingouin_7 (Post 4264226)
Not at all. No 4th gen shinies can be shiny except WCS Milotic and the ticket events. And it's OT is supposed to be red, by the way.

This has been discussed and disputed on this forum before, and I can assure you that Color Me Evil, my mod partner here at D/P/P, has extensive information about said events, and has enough evidence to suggest that they can be. We have had many discussions about whether to allow them to be traded here or not, but we have decided to let them go ahead.

Since she is a keen collector and handles the event Pokemon side of things here, I trust her word.

Skyline January 11th, 2009 4:09 PM

Pokemon - Mewtwo
Level caught - Arrived at Lv. 100
Ball caught - Ultra Ball.. I think xD
Location caught - Well.. Kanto
Trainer caught - It doesn't have any english characters in it, all Japanese.
Moveset- Ice Beam/Psychic/Shadow Ball/Aura Sphere

I got it from the GTS, which makes me uneasy about this. My Ruby game got screwed up permanently from a Mewtwo and I'm scared to save my game with a random Mewtwo in my game xD.

Black Omega Zero January 12th, 2009 1:36 PM

I think yours isn't hacked... it looks pretty normal to me...

ANARCHit3cht January 12th, 2009 3:30 PM

I got three Pokémon for breeding from a "friend" over the GTS. I am, done with them and want to trade them, but I don't want to trade hacked pokemon.

Pokemon-Venasaur
Level caught-
5
Ball caught-
Pokéball
Location caught-
Kanto
Trainer caught-
Tommy
Moveset
-Razor Leaf, Vine Whip, SolarBeam, Synthesis

Pokemon-Charizard
Level caught-
5
Ball caught-
Pokéball
Location caught-
Kanto
Trainer caught-
Tommy
Moveset -
Fire Fang, Flamethrower,Fly,Dragon Pulse

Pokemon-Blastoise
Level caught-
5
Ball caught-
Pokéball
Location caught-
Kanto
Trainer caught-
Tommy
Moveset -
Water Pulse, Aqua Tail, Surf, and Earthquake

~Kavin~ January 12th, 2009 3:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemew (Post 4262898)
hey i have a shiny movie shaymin everything is okay except that the ot is in blue instead of red , is it legit cause i heard all movie shaymins have a red ot

I have one as well. My question is can it learn seed flare at lv.50? that's the lv I'm assuming that it was caught. The OT is in red. I went to bulbapedia and it said that shaymin learns seed flare in the 90's so I'm a little curious

Zebra Thunderhead January 12th, 2009 3:35 PM

@ÄgàmêñÐmØÑ - You might want to post the EV/IVs since nothing seems wrong with what you provided.
@Kavin - Seed Flare is more than likely the event move so I wouldn't be overly concerned about it.

randomspot555 January 12th, 2009 6:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Color Me Evil (Post 4274988)

@Kavin - Seed Flare is more than likely the event move so I wouldn't be overly concerned about it.

They did the same with the Manaphy events. Those level 50 Movie Manaphy's (e4all, tru, etc...) all learned Heart Swap, even though it doesn't normally get it until much later.

ANARCHit3cht January 13th, 2009 9:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Color Me Evil (Post 4274988)
@ÄgàmêñÐmØÑ - You might want to post the EV/IVs since nothing seems wrong with what you provided.
@Kavin - Seed Flare is more than likely the event move so I wouldn't be overly concerned about it.

Er.. how do I find those out?

Gunners January 13th, 2009 10:11 AM

Pokemon:darkrai
Level caught:met at a fateful encounter lvl 40
Ball caught:that red one
Location caught:new moon island
Trainer caught:ALAMOS ID is 07318
Movesetdark void dark pulse roar of time spacial rend

Kit-Tsukasa January 13th, 2009 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ÄgàmêñÐmØÑ (Post 4274966)
I got three Pokémon for breeding from a "friend" over the GTS. I am, done with them and want to trade them, but I don't want to trade hacked pokemon.

Pokemon-Venasaur
Level caught-
5
Ball caught-
Pokéball
Location caught-
Kanto
Trainer caught-
Tommy
Moveset
-Razor Leaf, Vine Whip, SolarBeam, Synthesis

Pokemon-Charizard
Level caught-
5
Ball caught-
Pokéball
Location caught-
Kanto
Trainer caught-
Tommy
Moveset -
Fire Fang, Flamethrower,Fly,Dragon Pulse

Pokemon-Blastoise
Level caught-
5
Ball caught-
Pokéball
Location caught-
Kanto
Trainer caught-
Tommy
Moveset -
Water Pulse, Aqua Tail, Surf, and Earthquake

If they're all at least level 36 (Venasaur must be at least 32) then they should be legit unless they have bizarre stats
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunners (Post 4276654)
Pokemon:darkrai
Level caught:met at a fateful encounter lvl 40
Ball caught:that red one
Location caught:new moon island
Trainer caught:ALAMOS ID is 07318
Movesetdark void dark pulse roar of time spacial rend

100% hacked It should say pokemon event not new moon island and should be at least level 50 if it's Alamos

ANARCHit3cht January 13th, 2009 1:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kit-Tsukasa (Post 4276660)
If they're all at least level 36 (Venasaur must be at least 32) then they should be legit unless they have bizarre stats

100% hacked It should say pokemon event not new moon island and should be at least level 50 if it's Alamos

Ok, then. They should be alright, they all are level 100.

LethalTexture January 13th, 2009 2:41 PM

Make sure you check though; if all three have the same OT and ID, then they are hacked, as it is only possible to obtain one starter without resetting the game.

Zebra Thunderhead January 13th, 2009 3:04 PM

Unless you trade for them. XD

TwilightBlade January 13th, 2009 3:05 PM

Umm, ever heard of breeding? ._.

Also, make sure the pokemon say "Arrived at Lv. #" so you know they were palparked and not pokesaved.

Blue Tomoshibi January 14th, 2009 2:32 PM

I remember reading somewhere that WC Event Pokemon cannot be shiny unless they are meant to be shiny.

I can't remember where the site was, let me go look for it.

Zebra Thunderhead January 14th, 2009 4:53 PM

It's not true and we are not going to have this argument again.

Next time somebody brings it up, they are getting an infraction for spamming. Last warning.

LethalTexture January 14th, 2009 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwilightBlade (Post 4277614)
Umm, ever heard of breeding? ._.

Also, make sure the pokemon say "Arrived at Lv. #" so you know they were palparked and not pokesaved.

Forgot about that, my bad.

Samwighs January 15th, 2009 11:36 AM

Question on my Shiny Espeon i just got today...
 
I got this shiny Espeon over the GTC.. and I think it may be haxor'd...


I'd like to put up some screen shots of the stats and such and see what you guys all think. Although I haven't made 15 posts yet and cant, so just open the links in a secure browser.

s82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/samwighsgamgee/?action=view&current=EspeonShinyStats.jpg

s82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/samwighsgamgee/?action=view&current=EspeonShinyNoRibbons.jpg

s82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/samwighsgamgee/?action=view&current=EspeonShiny.jpg




Nothing too out of the norm besides its a green espeon and that they used a ??Master Ball?? to catch it.. but just wondering if there were any other taletell signs.

Thnx :)

Negrek January 15th, 2009 11:44 AM

It's impossible to tell if it's hacked without seeing its IV's; have you reduced its EV's to zero so that the stats in the picture reveal its IV's directly, or not?

I'd tend to be suspicious due to the master ball. You didn't provide us with the second info page, which is usually useful in determining hacks--if the eevee was not caught in the trophy garden, then it is absolutely a hack.

Ruphire January 15th, 2009 11:46 AM

You know I think it might be hacked because it was caught by a master ball. But you know some people catch regular pokemon with a master ball so. *shrugs*

pokemew January 15th, 2009 12:00 PM

i dont think its hacked just cause its caught by a master ball doesnt mean its hacked

Gunners January 15th, 2009 12:02 PM

The person might have just hacked a master ball or cloned it.

However why would a person trade their shines on the GTS when its full of hacks unless their own pokemon is a hack itself.

randomspot555 January 16th, 2009 6:37 AM

^^^This is horrible logic. Why would someone use the GTS? Because it's a provided service.

Master Ball is not an indication of a hack, except in cases such as event Pokemon and most starters. In every gen besides I, there is a way to obtain more than one Master Balls. In D/P, it's the grand prize at the Lottery. There's also cloning.

Gunners January 16th, 2009 8:13 AM

Pokemon: azelf
Level caught:50
Ball caught:great ball
Location caughtlake valor
Trainer caught:Alex
Moveset:calm mind light screen thunderbolt psychic

also.

Pokemon: celebi
Level caught:70
Ball caught: pokeball
Location caught:hoenn
Trainer caught:10 aniv
Moveset:shadow ball psychic perish song shock wave

pokemasterbjorn January 16th, 2009 10:20 AM

hey guys i got a dialga trough gts but i think its hacked but just wanna check ti first

tab 1
pokedex no. 483
name dialga
type steel dragon
ot (japanese name)
id no. 46675
exp points 552607 to next lvl 18059 he is lvl 76 atm

tab 2

adamant nature
jan 1 2010 (this is the part wich i think he is hacked but can be wrong date on the guy his ds)
spear pillar
apparaently met at lvl 70
strong willed likes spicy food

tab 3

hp 244/244
atack 240
defense 198
sp atk 229
sp def 182
speed 159
ability pressure

tab 4

roar of time
rock smash
strenght
metal claw

he is holding the adamant orb the only thing i think is weird is his date
he also got a face/smily next to his picture he isnt caught in masterbal but a nomal pokebal with in the middel some yellow and black

Gunners January 16th, 2009 10:26 AM

BTW the face/smiley means its been infected with pkrs.

pokemasterbjorn January 16th, 2009 10:27 AM

aha okay yeah dunno what that is xD :) but the date is the part i worry about cause thats mainly what show if its a hacked ornot

Jord January 16th, 2009 11:33 AM

Is my Garchomp hacked?

I got this off Serebii (Below)

Garchomp, Sand veil, Brave LvL100 - HP: 357 (31/0) | Atk: 325 (31/0) |
Def: 223 (28/0) | Sp.Atk: 165 (0/0) | Sp.Def: 204 (29/0) | Spd: 216 (31/0) |
Hidden Power: 36, GRASS | Format: stat (IV/EP)


Moves:
Dragon Claw
Dig
Crunch
Dragon Rush

It was hatched from an egg

Also I dunno why its hiddenpower is grass... still dont understand it...



Edit: Forgot form

Pokemon: Garchomp
Level caught: Hatched from egg
Ball caught: pokeball
Location caught: sinnoh
Trainer caught: FlamezX
Moveset: (Above)

randomspot555 January 16th, 2009 12:31 PM

bjorn, the date in Pokemons' summary is the date of the internal DS clock. If the DS clock can be set to it, it can be part of a legit Pokemon.

pokemasterbjorn January 16th, 2009 1:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randomspot555 (Post 4285292)
bjorn, the date in Pokemons' summary is the date of the internal DS clock. If the DS clock can be set to it, it can be part of a legit Pokemon.

aha i see yeah well i did release on him just to be sure :) i only gave a lvl 16 pikachi for him anyway ^^

pokemasterbjorn January 18th, 2009 11:42 AM

hey guys i got lucky and got another dialga trough gts for a pikachu

and this 1 seems legit but i just wanna check it

Pokemon: dialga
Level caught: 70 at spear pillar
Ball caught: ultra/great ball it seems
Location caught: sinnoh
Trainer caught: some japanese name
Moveset: roar of time,heal block, earth power,slash
id no. 64385
date of caught jan 18 2009

Haza January 18th, 2009 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokemasterbjorn (Post 4291424)
hey guys i got lucky and got another dialga trough gts for a pikachu

and this 1 seems legit but i just wanna check it

Pokemon: dialga
Level caught: 70 at spear pillar
Ball caught: ultra/great ball it seems
Location caught: sinnoh
Trainer caught: some japanese name
Moveset: roar of time,heal block, earth power,slash
id no. 64385
date of caught jan 18 2009

It would have had to be caught today on a Platinum game so Im not sure.

pokemasterbjorn January 18th, 2009 11:59 AM

yeah that was what i was thinking to but mabey some1 else now if its legit i got it trough gts so i dont know wich game its from

Gunners January 18th, 2009 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunners (Post 4284704)
Pokemon: azelf
Level caught:50
Ball caught:great ball
Location caughtlake valor
Trainer caught:Alex
Moveset:calm mind light screen thunderbolt psychic

also.

Pokemon: celebi
Level caught:70
Ball caught: pokeball
Location caught:hoenn
Trainer caught:10 aniv
Moveset:shadow ball psychic perish song shock wave

think it was ignored. can somebody please check thanks

Haza January 18th, 2009 12:07 PM

Well it can only be caught at lv70 on Platinum.

Zebra Thunderhead January 18th, 2009 3:35 PM

We've already had a whole thread about this god forsaken topic. Would you people just drop it already? Keep it out of this thread. Any more talking about this will result in an infraction.

ABZ DEATHNOTE January 18th, 2009 4:01 PM

Ok, this is a big one:
Hitmochan
Arrived at Lv. 26
Pokeball
Hoenn
Caught trainer Japense
Moveset: Mach punch/Thunder Punch/Ice Punch/Fire Punch
This is an event?

Zebra Thunderhead January 18th, 2009 4:02 PM

There's been no Hitmonchan event. The SPORT event is a fan made.

ABZ DEATHNOTE January 18th, 2009 4:06 PM

I came down :( cme u made me cry......... :(

Ezzo! January 18th, 2009 4:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunners (Post 4291493)
think it was ignored. can somebody please check thanks

http://www.pokecommunity.com/images/templates/winterfriends/buttons/viewpost.gif Pokemon: azelf
Level caught:50
Ball caught:great ball
Location caughtlake valor
Trainer caught:Alex
Moveset:calm mind light screen thunderbolt psychic

probably legit.
also.

Pokemon: celebi
Level caught:70
Ball caught: pokeball
Location caught:hoenn
Trainer caught:10 aniv
Moveset:shadow ball psychic perish song shock wave


Possibly legit also, if you give me more information, I can see if it's on the hack list for you.

Gunners January 18th, 2009 11:45 PM

I think celebi may be hacked, it has flawless IVs... im trying to trade back with the guy but if its not ill keep it.

Patchy January 18th, 2009 11:58 PM

If you guys can post EXACT IVs for caught Pokemon, their nature, and the region they're from, I can check if it's hacked. I can't tell for sure if it's legit, but if its hacked, I can tell you. :)

(IV-PID combination will be invalid if it's hacked.)

SCV January 19th, 2009 8:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Twister (Post 4293073)
If you guys can post EXACT IVs for caught Pokemon, their nature, and the region they're from, I can check if it's hacked. I can't tell for sure if it's legit, but if its hacked, I can tell you. :)

(IV-PID combination will be invalid if it's hacked.)

TO check the IV-PID combination you would also need to have them post the exact PID, which most people can't get.

Gunners January 19th, 2009 9:17 AM

So is the azelf and celebi hacked or legit?^^

also

Pokemon suicane
Level caught arrived at lvl 100
Ball caught master ball
Location caught hoenn
Trainer caughtdrea
Moveset ice beam aurora beam hydro pump surf

Pokemon metagross
Level caught arrived at at lvl 5
Ball caught pokeball
Location caught hoenn
Trainer caught pwnstar
Moveset hammer arm psychic iron defence bullet punch

Willoweon January 19th, 2009 9:52 AM

Pokemon: Staravia
Level caught: 7 (Current level also 7)
Ball caught: Pokeball
Location caught: Lake valor I think
Trainer caught: Bob Id: 09372
Moveset: Tackle, growl.

I've seen pokemon who are to low a level to be evolved in the wild, but this one has been offered to me in a trade over e-mail and it's stats are those of a level 20-or so staravia. Is this one of the weird glitched pokemon, or hacked?

Ezzo! January 19th, 2009 1:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunners (Post 4293055)
I think celebi may be hacked, it has flawless IVs... im trying to trade back with the guy but if its not ill keep it.

lol, yeah, it's probably hacked if that's the case.

Gunners January 19th, 2009 1:14 PM

The guy said that at the event all of the pokes were flawless and he got of a chord traing or something

"its not a hack the event pokemon from back in the day are all the same because they have to be traded by cord"

Haza January 19th, 2009 1:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunners (Post 4293905)
So is the azelf and celebi hacked or legit?^^

also

Pokemon suicane
Level caught arrived at lvl 100
Ball caught master ball
Location caught hoenn
Trainer caughtdrea
Moveset ice beam aurora beam hydro pump surf

Pokemon metagross
Level caught arrived at at lvl 5
Ball caught pokeball
Location caught hoenn
Trainer caught pwnstar
Moveset hammer arm psychic iron defence bullet punch

Both are hacked.
Suicune is only caught in Kanto or Far away place and Metagross is evolved too soon with impossible moves(at that level)

Gunners January 19th, 2009 1:33 PM

Are you sure about gross coz it learns all those moves by lvl 45 (when it evolves)

Schala_25 January 19th, 2009 1:37 PM

If your Metagross is above level 45, then its fine. I'm assuming that it was transferred over freshly hatched at level 5 and then leveled up. I think he just thought that the arrived at level meant that it was a level 5 Metagross, which would be a hack.

Gunners January 19th, 2009 1:39 PM

OFC it would its lvl 50 but it probaby is hacked as i got it from the same guy...

Here are its stats
timid nature 145/144/141/108/110/84. its shinyn with pokerus lvl 50 needs 9563 more xp till next lvl

Schala_25 January 19th, 2009 1:44 PM

It looks legit from the data you provided, so unless it has odd stats, I wouldn't be too worried about it. Just because one thing is a hack doesn't mean everything from that person is hacked too. The OTs are different, so even though the Suicune is hacked, it didn't come from the same game.

Gunners January 19th, 2009 1:46 PM

true, but OT can be hacked. Im'm kinda getting paranoid coz since i joined most pokes ive got were hacked.which is why everytime i trade i ask lol

Schala_25 January 19th, 2009 1:50 PM

Like I said, if the stats aren't odd, then you shouldn't worry too much. I'm not sure why anyone would go to the trouble to hack a regular Metagross into a game where you get one as an egg. The Suicune I can believe because it can't be found in R/S/E, but its unlikely that Metagross is a hack.

Zebra Thunderhead January 19th, 2009 1:56 PM

You can always throw the EVs into an IV calculator and post them here so people can check to see if they're suspicious or not.

Patchy January 19th, 2009 11:55 PM

And if you're not sure, use berries. :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCV (Post 4293711)
TO check the IV-PID combination you would also need to have them post the exact PID, which most people can't get.

Mm, nope. Just enter the IVs and nature, and if there's no possible PID, then you know its hacked.

Gunners January 19th, 2009 11:59 PM

So my metagross is legit as is the azelf suicune is hacked (its stats are below what they should be) and celebi is a maybe? sum1 check celebi?

Hadim Sinan Pasha January 20th, 2009 1:23 AM

OK, I'm wanting to ask about the Deoxys I got from GTS (hehe, my WiFi only works with GTS ATM so that was the only way). Anyways, I'll try to get IV's but it's not UT so I can't be sure and I ran out of the IV reducing berries so I have to wait a couple of days before they've all grown again.

Deoxys (Lv. 45 - Attack)
OT:STEPHEN
ID:40239
XP:114800
Next Lv: 6870

Nature: Hardy
Date: Dec. 23, 2008
Region: Kanto
Arrived: Lv. 44

HP: 106
Attack: 178
Defense: 29
Sp. Atk: 176
Sp. Def: 36
Speed: 148
Ability: Pressure

Night Shade
Zap Cannon
Psychic
Superpower

Sheen: 0

Ribbon: 0

I think it's legit but I was just wanting to know what you guys thought.

SCV January 20th, 2009 6:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Twister (Post 4296369)
Mm, nope. Just enter the IVs and nature, and if there's no possible PID, then you know its hacked.

Using my program? Well, it unreliable, but it might help in a few cases where the IVs are very high.

Patchy January 20th, 2009 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCV (Post 4296714)
Using my program? Well, it unreliable, but it might help in a few cases where the IVs are very high.

Your program? I doubt it's the same one, but it IS reliable. If a Pokemon has invalid IVs, it's hacked, simple as that; and this applet checks that. If it has valid IVs, it doesn't mean it's legit, though.

(Sorry for spamming, sort of.)

SCV January 20th, 2009 1:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~Twister (Post 4297248)
Your program? I doubt it's the same one, but it IS reliable. If a Pokemon has invalid IVs, it's hacked, simple as that; and this applet checks that. If it has valid IVs, it doesn't mean it's legit, though.

(Sorry for spamming, sort of.)

That would be X-Act's applet then (only my program and his applet can be used to check this.

I don't think its spam. Many people might not be aware about the PID/IV correlation and how it can be used to show a pokemon is hacked.

Again, this method is effective for pokemon with high IVs.
Maybe Color Me Evil can put something about it in the first post.

Zebra Thunderhead January 20th, 2009 1:08 PM

And what exactly do you want me to say?

MartinNFLFalcon January 20th, 2009 3:31 PM

Are either of these legit?

Heracross Pokemon Number 214
Name HERACROSS
Type BUG FIGHT
OT Tom
ID Number 24974

Impish Nature.
August 17, 2007.
Day Care Couple
Egg Recieved
August 21, 2007.
Solaceon Town.
Egg Apparently Hatched.
Highly curious.
Likes SOUR food.

Moveset.
Tackle
Leer
Horn Attack
Endure

Darkrai ( In Japanese lettering I think? )
Pokedex Number 491 ( In red lettering. )
Name DARKRAI
Type DARK
OT Josh
ID. No. 33959

Darkrai ( Has japanese lettering o.O ) Level 50
Modest Nature.
December 4th, 2008.
Nemoon Island.
Apparently met at.
Lv. 50
Likes to run.
Likes DRY food.

Moveset.

Hypnosis
Faint Attack
Nightmare
Double Team.

Zebra Thunderhead January 20th, 2009 3:34 PM

The Heracross is hacked.

Karu~ January 20th, 2009 3:59 PM

I have two I received from the GTS I've been wondering if there legit or not. I believe there fake but meh... you never know.

Ho-Oh

Hoenn - Arrived at lv. 70.
Pokeball
Trainers name - MATTLE
Moveset -

Fire Blast
Recover
Sunny Day
Swift

Jirachi

Hoenn - Arrived at lv. 7.
Masterball
Trainers name - AAAAAAA
Moveset -

Thunder
Shadow Ball
Psychic
Hyper Beam

MartinNFLFalcon January 20th, 2009 4:02 PM

I may be wrong
But,
Jirachi just screams Hacked to me >.>

Zebra Thunderhead January 20th, 2009 4:37 PM

Jirachi is hacked. There's no Jirachi out there that could be caught in the wild; all Jirachi are events.

Haza January 20th, 2009 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Color Me Evil (Post 4297937)
The Heracross is hacked.

How is the Heracross hacked?

Zebra Thunderhead January 20th, 2009 5:06 PM

Hatched in the wrong location for NOA Heracross.

Also, the master ball should've been a dead giveaway for Jirachi... Jirachi either comes in Pokeball or Cherish Ball.

Haza January 20th, 2009 5:11 PM

Whats a NOA Hera? Im sorry I just dont see the hackyness of it.

Zebra Thunderhead January 20th, 2009 5:15 PM

Tom Heracross (ID 24974) = NOA Heracross. The hatched location for Martin's NOA Heracross is Solaceon town, which is the improper hatch location for the NOA Heracross. Thus, it is hacked.

SCV January 20th, 2009 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Color Me Evil (Post 4297425)
And what exactly do you want me to say?

Give a link to an IV calculator that you trust. Specify what format you want the IVs to be written in HP/Atk/Def/Spd/SAtk/SDef and HP/Atk/Def/SAtk/SDef/Spd are common formats. Also ask for the nature.

This will allow ~Twister to do that kind of checking. You can also do it. If you want a link to the relevant applet, PM me (if you don't know what it is already).

Zebra Thunderhead January 20th, 2009 6:18 PM

I don't check IVs because I don't care about them so there is no link I trust. Just spell out what you want me to post for crying out loud. I'm not in the mood for "Figure out the IVs!" games.

Haza January 20th, 2009 6:25 PM

So if a pokemon has IVs of 31/31/31/31/31/31 you will automatically assume its hacked? thats hardly fair. I have bred some like this.

Zet January 20th, 2009 6:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - H A Z A - D I V O - (Post 4298566)
So if a pokemon has IVs of 31/31/31/31/31/31 you will automatically assume its hacked? thats hardly fair. I have bred some like this.

ironically enough pokesav can do that as well and people will just say "they bred it"

Haza January 20th, 2009 6:41 PM

But it can be done. Its still not fair to assume that.

Zebra Thunderhead January 20th, 2009 6:43 PM

|: This really isn't the place to be bickering about this.

Forci Stikane January 21st, 2009 8:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Color Me Evil (Post 4298539)
I don't check IVs because I don't care about them so there is no link I trust. Just spell out what you want me to post for crying out loud.

This.

Quote:

Originally Posted by - H A Z A - D I V O - (Post 4298615)
But it can be done. Its still not fair to assume that.

Perhaps, but as I recall, it is far more likely to find a Shiny Pokemon without chaining than it is to successfully and legitimately breed a Pokemon that has completely maxed IVs, much less one that also has a beneficial nature. While it theoretically can be done, to do so is so rare that such an IV set is most often a sign of a hack, and is sometimes the only sign available.

This is why it is generally a good idea to include IVs when asking if a Pokemon is a hack.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinNFLFalcon (Post 4297929)
Darkrai ( In Japanese lettering I think? )
Pokedex Number 491 ( In red lettering. )
Name DARKRAI
Type DARK
OT Josh
ID. No. 33959

Darkrai ( Has japanese lettering o.O ) Level 50
Modest Nature.
December 4th, 2008.
Nemoon Island.
Apparently met at.
Lv. 50
Likes to run.
Likes DRY food.

Moveset.

Hypnosis
Faint Attack
Nightmare
Double Team.

The Member's Pass was released in Pokemon Platinum, which leads to a Level 50 Darkrai in the game. So, if the name is Japanese, then the Pokemon can be legitimate. Does the font of the OT look different compared to the game's normal font?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karu~ (Post 4298009)
I have two I received from the GTS I've been wondering if there legit or not. I believe there fake but meh... you never know.

Ho-Oh

Hoenn - Arrived at lv. 70.
Pokeball
Trainers name - MATTLE
Moveset -

Fire Blast
Recover
Sunny Day
Swift

That Jirachi was definitely hacked, yes, but MATTLE Ho-Oh is a legitimate event Pokemon, so it could very well be for real.

FLOOTENKERP January 21st, 2009 11:17 AM

Hi, I know that they can be, but i want to see what the mods think. I have every shiny 10 aniv pokemon us tour across the world except for surfing pikachu (pretty sure those dont exist). Can they be shiny? Because some people have theyre doubts.

Zebra Thunderhead January 21st, 2009 5:22 PM

All shiny 10 ANNIV events are hacked. It's in the rules.

Stronkadonk January 21st, 2009 5:40 PM

Also, ANY shiny Celebi, Jirachi, or Manaphy is hacked.
All English Hoenn Mews at Level 30 (Faraway Island) are hacked.
This goes along with what CME said about 10th Anniversary Shinies.
Many are programmed to NOT be shiny.

SCV January 21st, 2009 9:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mence Master (Post 4301271)
Also, ANY shiny Celebi, Jirachi, or Manaphy is hacked.
All English Hoenn Mews at Level 30 (Faraway Island) are hacked.
This goes along with what CME said about 10th Anniversary Shinies.
Many are programmed to NOT be shiny.

Actually Manaphy can be shiny. They also tried to prevent it from being shiny. Most people will never get a shiny Manaphy, but I found a bug in their code.

Metal Mario posted a guide on how to soft-reset for a shiny manaphy. Its very tedious but maybe there are some out there that would go through the trouble: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=4200602&postcount=16441

Gunners January 22nd, 2009 12:21 AM

Pokemon: celebi
Level caught:70
Ball caught: pokeball
Location caught:hoenn
Trainer caught:10 aniv
Moveset:shadow ball psychic perish song shock wave

I never got a definite answer... just a maybe.

randomspot555 January 22nd, 2009 6:21 AM

^^It's hacked. The OT should be 10 ANIV, not 10 aniv.

Quote:

Originally Posted by - H A Z A - D I V O - (Post 4298566)
So if a pokemon has IVs of 31/31/31/31/31/31 you will automatically assume its hacked? thats hardly fair. I have bred some like this.

Even if both parents have all 31 IVs, it's still a 1:59916 to get a baby with same IVs. And since (long story short) only 3 IVs are inherited and the other 3 are random, it's extremely unlikely. There's a reason why PBR and GTS won't accept 6 31 IVed Pokemon, and it's because they're almost always hacked.

So yes, a Pokemon with only 31, only 0, or a mix of 31 and 0 for IVs are probably hacked.

And the IVs do matter in determining a hack, in some cases: The roaming dog trio in Kanto are programmed to have ridiculously low IVs. Also, it's impossible to catch a wild Pokemon that has 6 31 IVs, and this is reflected on Smogon's Shoddy server where any legendary Pokemon has a limit on how many 31 IVs it can have.

Gunners January 22nd, 2009 8:01 AM

Lol fine its 10 ANIV i just didnt put the capitals in...

Forci Stikane January 22nd, 2009 9:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunners (Post 4302139)
Pokemon: celebi
Level caught:70
Ball caught: pokeball
Location caught:hoenn
Trainer caught:10 aniv
Moveset:shadow ball psychic perish song shock wave

I never got a definite answer... just a maybe.

Because it is impossible to tell for certain with only that information. Nature, Date transferred, and IVs would all be useful to know.

Gunners January 22nd, 2009 9:05 AM

uh hasty nature and its like 12 july 2008 or sumthing

Melinda January 22nd, 2009 12:50 PM

Is my mewtwo legit?

Lv. 70
Impish nature
Atk 180
Def 145
Sp. Atk 214
Sp. Def 146
Speed 191

Ability Pressure

Move set:
Swift
Recover
Safeguard
Psychic

Haza January 22nd, 2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miakalina (Post 4303142)
Is my mewtwo legit?

Lv. 70
Impish nature
Atk 180
Def 145
Sp. Atk 214
Sp. Def 146
Speed 191

Ability Pressure

Move set:
Swift
Recover
Safeguard
Psychic

Looks good if it was caught in Kanto, was it?

Melinda January 22nd, 2009 1:07 PM

Yes. It was. So it's good possibility that its completely legit?

FLOOTENKERP January 22nd, 2009 1:08 PM

But 10 ANIV pokemon were proved 100% to be shiny events. Not starting an argument or anything, but can you tell me why you think 10 ANIV pokemon cant be shiny Color Me Evil?

Zebra Thunderhead January 22nd, 2009 1:11 PM

Are you talking about 10ANIVSH?

Kit-Tsukasa January 22nd, 2009 6:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLOOTENKERP (Post 4303218)
But 10 ANIV pokemon were proved 100% to be shiny events. Not starting an argument or anything, but can you tell me why you think 10 ANIV pokemon cant be shiny Color Me Evil?

The distribution was regulated by Nintendo. They were traded via link cables like the MYSTRY Mew. Hence why 10 ANIV pokes can't be shiny. If 10 ANIV (00010) pokes were shiny, why would they make Bryant Park, 10ANNIV, 10JAHRE, 10ANNI, 10ANIV all preset non-shiny? It doesn't make any sense, hence why 10 ANIV pokes cannot be shiny, for the same reason as the MYSTRY Mew, which it's a fact that no shinies were distributed.

The only shiny gba events to my knowledge are these: Wishmkr Jirachi, Agate Celebi, Berry Fix Zigzagoon, and some pichu event that I forgot.


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