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Zebra Thunderhead January 20th, 2009 5:06 PM

Hatched in the wrong location for NOA Heracross.

Also, the master ball should've been a dead giveaway for Jirachi... Jirachi either comes in Pokeball or Cherish Ball.

Haza January 20th, 2009 5:11 PM

Whats a NOA Hera? Im sorry I just dont see the hackyness of it.

Zebra Thunderhead January 20th, 2009 5:15 PM

Tom Heracross (ID 24974) = NOA Heracross. The hatched location for Martin's NOA Heracross is Solaceon town, which is the improper hatch location for the NOA Heracross. Thus, it is hacked.

SCV January 20th, 2009 6:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Color Me Evil (Post 4297425)
And what exactly do you want me to say?

Give a link to an IV calculator that you trust. Specify what format you want the IVs to be written in HP/Atk/Def/Spd/SAtk/SDef and HP/Atk/Def/SAtk/SDef/Spd are common formats. Also ask for the nature.

This will allow ~Twister to do that kind of checking. You can also do it. If you want a link to the relevant applet, PM me (if you don't know what it is already).

Zebra Thunderhead January 20th, 2009 6:18 PM

I don't check IVs because I don't care about them so there is no link I trust. Just spell out what you want me to post for crying out loud. I'm not in the mood for "Figure out the IVs!" games.

Haza January 20th, 2009 6:25 PM

So if a pokemon has IVs of 31/31/31/31/31/31 you will automatically assume its hacked? thats hardly fair. I have bred some like this.

Zet January 20th, 2009 6:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by - H A Z A - D I V O - (Post 4298566)
So if a pokemon has IVs of 31/31/31/31/31/31 you will automatically assume its hacked? thats hardly fair. I have bred some like this.

ironically enough pokesav can do that as well and people will just say "they bred it"

Haza January 20th, 2009 6:41 PM

But it can be done. Its still not fair to assume that.

Zebra Thunderhead January 20th, 2009 6:43 PM

|: This really isn't the place to be bickering about this.

Forci Stikane January 21st, 2009 8:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Color Me Evil (Post 4298539)
I don't check IVs because I don't care about them so there is no link I trust. Just spell out what you want me to post for crying out loud.

This.

Quote:

Originally Posted by - H A Z A - D I V O - (Post 4298615)
But it can be done. Its still not fair to assume that.

Perhaps, but as I recall, it is far more likely to find a Shiny Pokemon without chaining than it is to successfully and legitimately breed a Pokemon that has completely maxed IVs, much less one that also has a beneficial nature. While it theoretically can be done, to do so is so rare that such an IV set is most often a sign of a hack, and is sometimes the only sign available.

This is why it is generally a good idea to include IVs when asking if a Pokemon is a hack.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MartinNFLFalcon (Post 4297929)
Darkrai ( In Japanese lettering I think? )
Pokedex Number 491 ( In red lettering. )
Name DARKRAI
Type DARK
OT Josh
ID. No. 33959

Darkrai ( Has japanese lettering o.O ) Level 50
Modest Nature.
December 4th, 2008.
Nemoon Island.
Apparently met at.
Lv. 50
Likes to run.
Likes DRY food.

Moveset.

Hypnosis
Faint Attack
Nightmare
Double Team.

The Member's Pass was released in Pokemon Platinum, which leads to a Level 50 Darkrai in the game. So, if the name is Japanese, then the Pokemon can be legitimate. Does the font of the OT look different compared to the game's normal font?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karu~ (Post 4298009)
I have two I received from the GTS I've been wondering if there legit or not. I believe there fake but meh... you never know.

Ho-Oh

Hoenn - Arrived at lv. 70.
Pokeball
Trainers name - MATTLE
Moveset -

Fire Blast
Recover
Sunny Day
Swift

That Jirachi was definitely hacked, yes, but MATTLE Ho-Oh is a legitimate event Pokemon, so it could very well be for real.

FLOOTENKERP January 21st, 2009 11:17 AM

Hi, I know that they can be, but i want to see what the mods think. I have every shiny 10 aniv pokemon us tour across the world except for surfing pikachu (pretty sure those dont exist). Can they be shiny? Because some people have theyre doubts.

Zebra Thunderhead January 21st, 2009 5:22 PM

All shiny 10 ANNIV events are hacked. It's in the rules.

Stronkadonk January 21st, 2009 5:40 PM

Also, ANY shiny Celebi, Jirachi, or Manaphy is hacked.
All English Hoenn Mews at Level 30 (Faraway Island) are hacked.
This goes along with what CME said about 10th Anniversary Shinies.
Many are programmed to NOT be shiny.

SCV January 21st, 2009 9:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mence Master (Post 4301271)
Also, ANY shiny Celebi, Jirachi, or Manaphy is hacked.
All English Hoenn Mews at Level 30 (Faraway Island) are hacked.
This goes along with what CME said about 10th Anniversary Shinies.
Many are programmed to NOT be shiny.

Actually Manaphy can be shiny. They also tried to prevent it from being shiny. Most people will never get a shiny Manaphy, but I found a bug in their code.

Metal Mario posted a guide on how to soft-reset for a shiny manaphy. Its very tedious but maybe there are some out there that would go through the trouble: http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=4200602&postcount=16441

Gunners January 22nd, 2009 12:21 AM

Pokemon: celebi
Level caught:70
Ball caught: pokeball
Location caught:hoenn
Trainer caught:10 aniv
Moveset:shadow ball psychic perish song shock wave

I never got a definite answer... just a maybe.

randomspot555 January 22nd, 2009 6:21 AM

^^It's hacked. The OT should be 10 ANIV, not 10 aniv.

Quote:

Originally Posted by - H A Z A - D I V O - (Post 4298566)
So if a pokemon has IVs of 31/31/31/31/31/31 you will automatically assume its hacked? thats hardly fair. I have bred some like this.

Even if both parents have all 31 IVs, it's still a 1:59916 to get a baby with same IVs. And since (long story short) only 3 IVs are inherited and the other 3 are random, it's extremely unlikely. There's a reason why PBR and GTS won't accept 6 31 IVed Pokemon, and it's because they're almost always hacked.

So yes, a Pokemon with only 31, only 0, or a mix of 31 and 0 for IVs are probably hacked.

And the IVs do matter in determining a hack, in some cases: The roaming dog trio in Kanto are programmed to have ridiculously low IVs. Also, it's impossible to catch a wild Pokemon that has 6 31 IVs, and this is reflected on Smogon's Shoddy server where any legendary Pokemon has a limit on how many 31 IVs it can have.

Gunners January 22nd, 2009 8:01 AM

Lol fine its 10 ANIV i just didnt put the capitals in...

Forci Stikane January 22nd, 2009 9:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunners (Post 4302139)
Pokemon: celebi
Level caught:70
Ball caught: pokeball
Location caught:hoenn
Trainer caught:10 aniv
Moveset:shadow ball psychic perish song shock wave

I never got a definite answer... just a maybe.

Because it is impossible to tell for certain with only that information. Nature, Date transferred, and IVs would all be useful to know.

Gunners January 22nd, 2009 9:05 AM

uh hasty nature and its like 12 july 2008 or sumthing

Melinda January 22nd, 2009 12:50 PM

Is my mewtwo legit?

Lv. 70
Impish nature
Atk 180
Def 145
Sp. Atk 214
Sp. Def 146
Speed 191

Ability Pressure

Move set:
Swift
Recover
Safeguard
Psychic

Haza January 22nd, 2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miakalina (Post 4303142)
Is my mewtwo legit?

Lv. 70
Impish nature
Atk 180
Def 145
Sp. Atk 214
Sp. Def 146
Speed 191

Ability Pressure

Move set:
Swift
Recover
Safeguard
Psychic

Looks good if it was caught in Kanto, was it?

Melinda January 22nd, 2009 1:07 PM

Yes. It was. So it's good possibility that its completely legit?

FLOOTENKERP January 22nd, 2009 1:08 PM

But 10 ANIV pokemon were proved 100% to be shiny events. Not starting an argument or anything, but can you tell me why you think 10 ANIV pokemon cant be shiny Color Me Evil?

Zebra Thunderhead January 22nd, 2009 1:11 PM

Are you talking about 10ANIVSH?

Kit-Tsukasa January 22nd, 2009 6:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLOOTENKERP (Post 4303218)
But 10 ANIV pokemon were proved 100% to be shiny events. Not starting an argument or anything, but can you tell me why you think 10 ANIV pokemon cant be shiny Color Me Evil?

The distribution was regulated by Nintendo. They were traded via link cables like the MYSTRY Mew. Hence why 10 ANIV pokes can't be shiny. If 10 ANIV (00010) pokes were shiny, why would they make Bryant Park, 10ANNIV, 10JAHRE, 10ANNI, 10ANIV all preset non-shiny? It doesn't make any sense, hence why 10 ANIV pokes cannot be shiny, for the same reason as the MYSTRY Mew, which it's a fact that no shinies were distributed.

The only shiny gba events to my knowledge are these: Wishmkr Jirachi, Agate Celebi, Berry Fix Zigzagoon, and some pichu event that I forgot.


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