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+Poochyena+ January 14th, 2009 3:10 PM

Well, here's how big of a Poochyena/Mightyena fan I am!!:)
I have:
Mightyena EX card
7 Different Mightyena/Poochyena cards
Mini Poochyena figure
Mightyena in EVERY one of my Pokemon Games ( One has all the Tough Ribbons)
Claimed Poochyena/Mightyena
Going to change my username to Poochyena in February
Have a Lv 103 (currently) Poochyena in Pokemon TPPC
Defeated all the Elite 4's with a Mightyena in my Team
So, yeah. lol

shanecdavis January 14th, 2009 3:44 PM

Wow, you have taken fanatic to an unhealthy level. heh

wolf January 14th, 2009 3:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbow Lord (Post 4280172)
Well, here's how big of a Poochyena/Mightyena fan I am!!:)
I have:
Mightyena EX card
7 Different Mightyena/Poochyena cards
Mini Poochyena Firgure
Mightyena in EVERY one of my Pokemon Games
Defeated all the Elite 4's with a Mightyena in my Team
So, yeah. lol

I did all of those above! Except my name was shadowmightyena. I beat the E4 with a entire team of level 30 Mightyenas, yes, that low of lv., it was a challenge though.

AuraAshley January 14th, 2009 3:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanecdavis (Post 4279985)
You don't? Really? Here are just a few of the differences you will find between battling the in-game AI and battling another person:

1. In-game AI Pokemon (outside of the Battle Frontier) do not have EV points.
2. In-game AI opponents RARELY will switch out if one of their Pokemon is inflicted with a status (i.e. Sleep, Burn, etc.). They will typically leave the affected Pokemon in until it faints.
3. In-game AI opponents RARELY have well-rounded teams. They typically all share a common weakness, especially all the gym trainers, the "elite" 4, and the especially the "champion".
4. In-game AI opponents will NEVER utilize specific strategies (i.e. Rest/Sleep Talk, Substitute/Focus Punch, Baton Pass, Spikes/Whirlwind, Curse/Rest, etc.) in order to win.
5. In-game AI Pokemon will not have a moveset that gives them the best type coverage.
6. In-game AI opponents will randomly attack using non-offensive moves, sometimes with moves that have absolutely no affect on your Pokemon (i.e. using Charge against a Swampert).

I am sure I could rattle off at least 10 more, but you get the idea. There is really a HUGE difference between battling the AI and battling against someone else. One of the many things I was hoping to see in DPP was a difficulty level that would at least make the game challenging for people older than 10. It just seems that they have forgotten that a lot of people that enjoy playing Pokemon have been around since RBY and really aren't 10 anymore.

you know what you explained sounds like me except for number n9 plus another number not sure off top of my head.

personally the AI in the game was challenging and i just dont agree with you srry. i still think my strategy is pretty good.

shanecdavis January 14th, 2009 4:40 PM

The fact that you relate to most of that list explains why you find the AI challenging. No problem with that. Everyone has their own skill level. Unfortunately for those that are better skilled, it is difficult to obtain a challenge from the pathetic AI without making some drastic adjustments. For instance, when I play in-game, I am not allowed to level up my Pokemon any higher than the highest Pokemon that the current gym leader has. I also do not use any items during battle. No Potions, No Full Restore, NOTHING. A few things like that at least provide a little bit of a challenge.

I am also glad you enjoy your strategy and by all means continue to utilize it. Like I said, the only problem I had with that strategy is your presumption that it was the best.

AuraAshley January 14th, 2009 4:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanecdavis (Post 4280361)
The fact that you relate to most of that list explains why you find the AI challenging. No problem with that. Everyone has their own skill level. Unfortunately for those that are better skilled, it is difficult to obtain a challenge from the pathetic AI without making some drastic adjustments. For instance, when I play in-game, I am not allowed to level up my Pokemon any higher than the highest Pokemon that the current gym leader has. I also do not use any items during battle. No Potions, No Full Restore, NOTHING. A few things like that at least provide a little bit of a challenge.

I am also glad you enjoy your strategy and by all means continue to utilize it. Like I said, the only problem I had with that strategy is your presumption that it was the best.

well based on what you are saying you probably could beat me, seeing as i use a lot of items in gym battles and i do focus on round about training meaning i train each pokemon evenly
* lol i feel so old talk about this *

shanecdavis January 14th, 2009 4:49 PM

Round-about training is good. That is exactly what I do. I do it a little differently though, in that I am aware of what EV points a wild Pokemon will give me. If a wild Pokemon will give me points in a stat I don't want (i.e. Spd EV on Snorlax????), I will run, run away.

I also only use 2-3 Pokemon on my team through the game, along with a few HM slaves.

Thanks for the old comment too. heh

AuraAshley January 14th, 2009 5:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanecdavis (Post 4280389)
Round-about training is good. That is exactly what I do. I do it a little differently though, in that I am aware of what EV points a wild Pokemon will give me. If a wild Pokemon will give me points in a stat I don't want (i.e. Spd EV on Snorlax????), I will run, run away.

I also only use 2-3 Pokemon on my team through the game, along with a few HM slaves.

Thanks for the old comment too. heh

now heres the question that will make you laugh( and everyone else)

what are EV's? i never understood that

and np btw bout the comment

shanecdavis January 15th, 2009 7:59 AM

As we are now off-topic, I will reply to you elsewhere. I did have a write-up in Strategies & Movesets a few years ago, but it looks like it has been replaced with one that includes DDP.

AuraAshley January 15th, 2009 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shanecdavis (Post 4281750)
As we are now off-topic, I will reply to you elsewhere. I did have a write-up in Strategies & Movesets a few years ago, but it looks like it has been replaced with one that includes DDP.


well if your gonna do a D/P move set then why not try this?

double team
toxic
giga impact
crunch

+Poochyena+ January 15th, 2009 6:36 PM

While we are talking DP, what would be the ideal moves for a Houndoom?

Tashiro January 15th, 2009 6:59 PM

Giga impact = hyper beam = roar of time = hydro canon = blast burn = frenzy plant = POINTLESS in competitive battling. (or so I've heard.)

Remember that now.

They work in-game sometimes, but low PP + recharge time = epic failure. I hope you hacked/cloned/traded for a lot of PP maxes.

Draco meteor is actually quite good. Many of the members in my uber team fall to it. I have an attack-oriented team most of the time, and I rarely see draco meteor outside of ubers. Maybe it's because I haven't battled a lot.

I once had a draco meteor dialga, which owned the opponents not smart/fast enough to OHKO it. (didn't last long, as it wasn't EV-trained, plus it was docile-natured. big mistake, I know.) Now, the world will fear my fully EVed draco meteor dialga!

You should know that I love battling ubers, in-game and competitively. It's a passion of mine. ^_^;

evilishan January 15th, 2009 7:34 PM

Quote:

Well, here's how big of a Poochyena/Mightyena fan I am!!:)
I have:
Mightyena EX card
7 Different Mightyena/Poochyena cards
Mini Poochyena figure
Mightyena in EVERY one of my Pokemon Games ( One has all the Tough Ribbons)
Claimed Poochyena/Mightyena
Going to change my username to Poochyena in February
Have a Lv 103 (currently) Poochyena in Pokemon TPPC
Defeated all the Elite 4's with a Mightyena in my Team
So, yeah. lol
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Now all you need is a shiny Mightyena, and a Mightyyena in your sig.
How is Wolflairs strategy going? Progress.
It's a good strategy.

wolf January 15th, 2009 8:24 PM

Houndoom moveset:

Houndoom
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Flash Fire
Nature: Timid
EVs: 40 HP/ 252 SpA/ 216 Spe
Moveset:
~ Nasty Plot
~ Hidden Power [Ground]/ Will-o-Wisp
~ Dark Pulse
~ Fire Blast

Ask me if you want a R/S/E moveset for him, also, I have more movesets for him as I love all the Wolf Pokemon! :)

thatrabidfangirl January 15th, 2009 9:23 PM

First off, ignore all those idiots who say that Poochyena and Mightyena are bad Pokemon. They're not. *points to sig* Even in normal colours, they own.
Secondly, I think it's been said, but you don't need Bite; especially not twice. I wouldn't go for Swagger, either, because it's too risky. It's up to you, but Double Team would be much more useful. Just Double Team into oblivion, and then wreck a terrible reign of destruction upon that unfortunate Pokemon, whatever it may be. And laugh as it tries to attack you.
I rest my case.

shanecdavis January 16th, 2009 9:20 AM

I know it is hard to accept since you are obviously a big fan of them, but they truly are not very good Pokemon. Mightyena has a base stat total of 420, which ties for 181 out of 389 Pokemon (all Deoxys forms included). That is the same total as Dragonair, Metang, Shelgon, and *gulp* Castform. Of its base stats, it has a below average of 60 for SAtk, and very average 70 for Spd, meaning it cannot even take advantage of STAB very well or have the necessary speed to at least get an attack in first. On top of that, it has a BRUTAL movepool. You know you are limited when Iron Tail and Poison Fang are among the best options as moves.

BTW - Poochyena has a base stat total of a measly 220, which is tied for 370 out of 389, along with the craptastic Seedot and the craptacular Lotad. I should also note that is BARELY ahead of Kakuna and Metapod. It doesn't get much worse than that. Like them all you want, but calling them "good" or saying they "own" is quite a stretch.


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