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Good idea or no?
Although I'm writing another fic write now. I've come up with a possible idea. I was wondering if it would make any sense.
Jun (I've gotta find out his english name) has never been as succeful as Dawn or Lucas. He's traveled to Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn after Sinnoh while Dawn and Lucas stayed back. Yet he still never has really accomplished anything significant. He's also met up with all the old heroes from the other regions and seen them all be accomplished while he fails. After seven years (he's 17) of being a trainer he's wondering if it is worth it. He gets a call from Professor Rowan and meats with the four professors from each region. They ask him to conduct an experiment. They give him a new type of pokeball called a "Temporary Ball". This pokeball is slightly stronger then an ultra ball but automatically releases the pokemon 5 minutes after capture. Why have such a pointless pokeball? To see if the legendaries are truly catchable. Jun embarks on his journey to be the first trainer to ever catch all the legendaries. Now this is just a summary and brain stormed idea. Essentially, the fic will be about how ppl catch the legendaries in the games and have a lot of capturing strategy and stuff like that. Good idea or no? |
It sounds quite a bit like the standard Pokemon games, where the Professor hands you a Pokedex and tells you to go catch 'em all. Here, you're catching Legendaries - but the same question arises: why is Jun, an unremarkable trainer, the one chosen for this task? Also, why does the ball release what it's captured? A captured Legendary sounds like a valuable thing.
Canonically, a Suicune has appeared in the anime once, suggesting that they are catchable, but I don't like canon much. |
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I'm also ignoring the bit about not liking canon for the sake of avoiding my rant involving this and Pokémon fans. |
Hmm i never really gave any thought to why Jun would be chosen... If I do write this I better give a good reason. I actually did have a reason to why the pokeballs would release them five minutes after. Partially, it's because that the researchers know it would throw off the balance in the world. Which based on many pokemon stories... it would. Secondly (and I didn't want to put this in the summary because it was going to be a secret that the researchers had kept from Jun until he caught the first legendary), is that when he caught the pokemon, the temporary ball would completely analyze its physiology, abilities, and all other research stuff like that. So essentially, yes, it is kind of like the games where the professor wants you to "catch em all". Maybe I will write it but I've gotta work out the legistics.
Oh that's right! On the topic of Gary Stu. I actually didn't think of that at all. My mind set was that, in the games, even though I do catch the legendaries. I NEVER use them. In my mind they're to cheap and make the games less fun. So actually it was just my mind set but relating it to a Gary Stu makes sense I guess. |
Your story has potential but you could give it a bit mor WOW factor as such that would be great
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Point is, unless you're writing in a canon where the world has gone to **** because someone caught a legendary (a la the anime, where people like Oak already know what happen when you stick a legendary in a cage), the scientists may not take that as solid proof. And even then, I'd imagine five minutes would be enough time for the world's balance to be thrown off enough for crap to happen anyway. Quote:
I just find it a bit too convenient and a bit too lazy on the researchers' part. To tell you the truth, it feels a bit unlikely because the researchers would more likely want to actually meet the Pokémon and study it up close, rather than just let a ball do it. (This seems to be a general philosophy, anyway. And yes, they would probably ignore the possibility that it would blast their heads off. *motions to her pet character as an example*) |
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From what I can understand, the difference between a watcher and a researcher is that a researcher is often based in a laboratory (as in, while they may travel, they ultimately return to their respective labs to do a portion of their work), while watchers are primarily travelers. It may also have something to do with degrees, but then again, there's Gary. |
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Trying to add to what Xanthine said, if that's possible, I have the udnerstanding that, at least in RL, the driving difference between a "watcher" and a "researcher", from the perspective of scientific sense, is that the watcher is to keep theirself out of the environment being studied, whereas a researcher has no issues with intervening and altering the observed environment (as long as it is to ease the recollection of data). It's more a matter of how holistic are their concepts of (scientific) observation and environment. I know no terms for those who try more radical intervention methods. In the Pokémon world, that would go as Xanthine said. If we could actually project the intent of intervention, we would have Tracey on the "Watcher" end: he mentioned that he used Venonat to trace and calm the Pokémon being observed from afar; then comes the cast of Pokémon Rangers in general; then Professor Oak, who maintains a reservoir for several Pokémon in a wild-like environment and uses Trainer's Pokémon to keep order; then scientists in general; and, to the other end of the scale, people like Professor Namba and Zero. Don't take that as an ethical scale, however: I distinctively remember that at the end of the Ranger movie, the Ranger (I think the name was Jack) used his Styler to subdue Zapdos for transportation servitude. The idea being that scientific minds push the questions about their research (such as the "what if"s Xanthine pointed out) to the point that they have understood how broad is the recollection they want to perform. After all, observing the natural behaviour of a Pokémon, legendary or not, can only be made in a scientifically sound manner by observing them in a nondisturbed habitat. If a scientist does not want, or does not need, such depth of information, they would have no qualms to chase, capture and analyze the Pokémon (legendary or not). Keep substracting scientific needs, and you can move to any point in the scale, while being evil, neutral or good. So, bottom line, if a researcher is sending a boy with a special Poké Ball that captures legendaries for five minutes, extracts all their data, and then releases them without question, in the scale of observation that puts them closer to the Namba end that it does to the Tracey end. How much closer would depend on how is Jun supposed to get out of these bursts of rage alive, as he is essentially being send to piss off every Legendary... That and what to do with all the information of a Legendary who would then be "cloned" in knowledge (a-la-Mew) will be, in my opinion, the elements that will define if you can get away with this plot. |
I think this is a great idea, although, as pointed out, it does have its flaws and it can be improved upon.
The first: why this guy in particular. Maybe all the "better" trainers were busy? (Weak.) Maybe Rowan was afraid that a highly-accomplished trainer would be too tempted to try to keep the legendary instead of let it go? (Better, but still weak; all the game protagonists have been declared Kind And Good To Pokémon and all that by everyone they meet.) Maybe the legendaries KNOW when they're being faced by a super-powerful trainer and will refuse to sit around and let themselves be caught if someone tough is around, and so the only option is to send in a mediocre trainer? Maybe he doesn't have to be a completely terrible trainer in EVERY aspect; like, maybe he's bad at catching, training, battling, all the things you need to be recognized as a Pokémon Master. But (because he's been to all the regions) he has a stellar knowledge of the geography of all these regions, and he's great at camping, at hiking, at navigation... so he could be highly talented in many ways by now, but not in any way that the Pokémon Leagues measure. Since he's not going to be battling or permanently catching Pokémon, but merely tracking them down and throwing a ball at them, he's much more well-equipped than the "great" trainers, who are fantastic at catching/training/battling but not nearly as skilled as him in simple traveling skills. Another idea: how about have him go on this mission with no Pokémon of his own? Perhaps that's what allows him to get near the legendaries. He doesn't have the feel of a "trainer" and he isn't using Pokémon for battle or anything, so they don't consider him as much of a threat. All he's got with him are his own supplies, and the modified temporary-capture balls. If you do this, then you have a completely new story, where your character isn't even using a Pokémon to cut down annoying shrubs for him. He's got to do literally everything without the help of Pokémon, and since he's a horrible trainer anyway, that wouldn't bother him as much as it might other trainers. It would also do a lot to kill the "OT Gary Stu" idea (which I don't think you should even be worrying about because I didn't get any Gary Stu vibes off of this character, though I can see how Jun could end up that way if handled by the wrong writer...). How about that? Someone else pointed out that in game canon, the researchers wouldn't have a reason to think that bothering the Legendaries might mess up nature. In response, I say Groudon and Kyogre. Just waking them up causes chaos. Sure, the Pokémon world seems to be pretty oblivious to huge catastrophes (half a region away there's no evidence of Groudon or Kyogre's weather changes...) but surely the news WOULD spread, and the researchers would know about this. You could also pretty easily make up other events, stories, etc. ("Oh, you don't want to KEEP the legendaries. The last trainer to try that was Red from Kanto, three years ago, when he caught Articuno. As it turns out, Articuno's icy power was the only thing controlling a chain of volcanoes south of Kanto and... well, you know what happened to Cinnabar...") The fact that there aren't many canon cases of legendaries-maintaining the balance doesn't have to be a limitation. As a fanfic writer, you have some creative license, you know. As to the fact that the legendaries will be furious after they're caught and released, good! Jun will have to be creative to escape them. Maybe the first one he catches is one of the more peaceful legendaries, like Mew, and when it's free and it starts chasing him in anger, he isn't expecting it and freaks out, but Mew lets him off the hook. And after that he'll have to be prepared for the wrath of the other legendaries, and they won't be nearly as nice. That could add quite a bit of excitement to the plot: the hardest part isn't catching them, but surviving the aftermath. Anyway, hope this helps. I'll be glad to help more on this idea if you'd like, and let me know when you start writing it! This is a fic I want to read someday. |
Thanks ckret2.
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At most, I said that researchers were present for this sort of thing happening in the anime (see the second movie), but with the games, not so much. Additionally, in the games, the destruction only covered a small portion of one region, and then, only a handful of people were present for it happening -- most of whom were part of a criminal organization. To admit that you were there knew that it was an ancient Pokémon that, up until that point, was taken to be part of myth that was responsible for the freak weather and not something else would probably be admitting you were part of the criminal organization, given that the few who weren't were the opposite team, Wallace, Steven, the hero protagonist, and a few people in Sootopolis. So, really, you could say that news might have traveled fast if you think Wallace, Steven, and the other credible figures involved would have wanted to tell what happened (which would then reveal the fact that legendary Pokémon exist and have been captured by a ten-year-old... neither of which may be good) would pass along the story. It's also very likely (more likely, I think, than the former scenario) that the story was kept hush-hush. Not to mention the world went back to normal after the capture of these legendaries. Yes, awakening's shown to be a bad thing, but it seems that defeating or capturing the legendary's no big deal. So, to go back to the other earlier point, the only other thing I might've said that would get this response was that the researcher mind might say "let's poke it," right? Well, yeah, that's the thing. There's a story, but a scientist might be inclined to say, "Well, apparently, this happened, but let's make sure it was definitely because of this by doing it again." Either that or, "They say this happened, but to make absolutely sure it does, let's do this." In other words, I'm not saying they might not believe that a catastrophe would happen as a result of a legendary. I'm saying they would, but they'd be inclined to test it anyway to have solid proof that it would. As for Articuno, I don't recall there being any connection, really. I was always under the impression that Cinnabar Island was volcanically active either way and that Articuno's sphere of influence was bound to just the Seafoam Islands. Otherwise, we'd be seeing a lot more snow. Point is, yeah, the author has creative license, but it only goes so far. You'll want to keep in mind logic and ties to canon as well because this is still fanfiction. That and I never said it's not known to a researcher that legendary = rocks fall, everybody dies. |
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Anyway, The Ebon Blade, good luck with the fic! |
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