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Aizuke January 17th, 2009 2:03 AM

Intermediate Class [Aizuke's Home Room]
 
Welcome to

Aizuke's Home Room for Intermediate Signature Making Class
[Photoshop]

Currently, my style is unsure to me. I tend to change a lot, but usually I stick with textures, smudging and C4D's. But to a more different sort of sense, I try to make my graphics/tags appealing to the viewers eyes. In a way, that's my style. I still consider myself as some sort of a beginner at graphics. Though I have been making graphics for nearly a year now, there is much more for me to learn. My classes of course will help to improve the way you make your graphics, find a significant style for yourself, any weaknesses you think you have when making graphics and much more. I will only be guiding you, not teaching you my style.

Student List
.noxious
t w e n t y - t w o .
Gunners
Kayashi
Unforgettable

Assignments

Assign. #1

Show me what you consider is your worst banner/tag you have made. Tell me what points in your banner/tag you think makes it bad, and what ways you can improve it. After doing so, I will evaluate your banner/tag myself, and say whether I agree with what you've said. Then, using both your own and my opinions; redo your tag taking in hand what you and I have said about it.

You will be given a week and a half to finish this assignment. (To be done by the 28th/29th of January)

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Assign. #2

This one is pretty easy, all you have to do is make a tag, but you can only use shapes. But! You can only use one sort of shape. If you've picked a circle, then you have to keep using circles. This is just a way to experiment with vectoring and the pen tool. You can use C4D's and textures, only if they match the shape you have chosen. Don't forget to add lighting, depth etc. Then once you've done, you must rate each others banners.

Assignments are due 9th of Febuary~

If you have any problems in completing this assigment by then, feel free to PM me or post in this thread and I will give you an extension. Either than that, you have no excuses to be late.
(Any new students joining after this post will be illegable for an extension)

Completed

[Kayashi] Assignment #1; Grade A
[t w e n t y - t w o .] Assignment #1; Grade A
[.noxious] Assignment #1; Grade A
[Gunners] Assignment #1; Grade B

moments. January 17th, 2009 3:15 AM

I already have a question about Assignment #1... *shot'd*
If we do not have a PSD for out worst tag, do we try and remake it or do we choose the worst that we have a PSD for?

Aizuke January 17th, 2009 3:19 AM

Well, since you're redoing your tag, you can remake it, since the PSD's won't be necesscary. If you use the old PSD, you'll just be adding on more layers.

Better to start fresh, but use the same sort of elements you previously had, but improved.

Gunners January 17th, 2009 4:54 AM

Can we show our first ever sig then? lol then re-do it?

Aizuke January 17th, 2009 5:05 AM

If you think that's your worst, sure I guess.

Gunners January 17th, 2009 5:16 AM

http://i43.*.com/kbsygi.jpg

ill do that as it was a rush job

Aizuke January 17th, 2009 2:19 PM

"Tell me what points in your banner/tag you think makes it bad, and what ways you can improve it."

:x

the bitter end. January 17th, 2009 2:28 PM

darn, i should be in this class xD

Dukey January 17th, 2009 11:00 PM

=/
I'll post mine soon. I'll find one that needs a lot of improvement I guess =P

Aizuke January 18th, 2009 2:04 AM

No rush, you have a week and a half to complete it~

And RyuKun, you should go post in the Graphic's School discussions thread to apply for a class. :x

moments. January 18th, 2009 3:05 AM

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/mattimogalli/Swordscopy.png
I had some worse tags but I deleted them a long time ago...
-No flow.
-No depth.
-Verging on monotonous.
-Text sticks out like a clown at a funeral.

It can be improved by establishing a line of flow and utilising it. Then we can add some nicer special effects so it isn't so boring and monotonous. I'd play around with gradient maps and colour layers to give it some oomph and look less monotonous. Then I'd blur and sharpen some parts to make some depth before finally putting some 'nice' text on it.

Azonic January 18th, 2009 5:25 AM

http://i41.*.com/jfxc9f.png
Hot damn, this sucked. First SOTW, for SOTW #1.

  • I remember searching for a background on google, putting it onto GIMP, and slapping the render over. Nawt gud.
  • Really bright, and there's no definite light source. Burns your eyes right out of their sockets.
  • Incredibly monotonous. Took all the natural color away from the render.
  • It really has no flow. The render itself has flow, but the banner detracts it. Flow should be going \\ direction.
  • The ~SOTW~ dangling in the middle of the banner was stupid.
  • I used a border of small font text; I mean, wtf. xD
  • Basically just a render slapped onto a background and splattered with cyan colorize.
  • Scanlines detracted quality.

  • Could do more than just slapping the render on there.
  • Make it less monotone by using greens, reds, purples, etc.
  • Add a light source. Maybe on the top left or at the bottom of her body near her hands.
  • Better background instead of an abstract sampler.
  • Completely redo the text. xD
  • Stick to the natural colors of the render a bit more instead of desaturating it and coating it with cyan.
  • TAKE AWAY THE BORDER. Dx
  • Utilize flow a bit more with c4ds and such.

Aizuke January 18th, 2009 6:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noxious. (Post 4290160)
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/mattimogalli/Swordscopy.png
I had some worse tags but I deleted them a long time ago...
-No flow.
-No depth.
-Verging on monotonous.
-Text sticks out like a clown at a funeral.

It can be improved by establishing a line of flow and utilising it. Then we can add some nicer special effects so it isn't so boring and monotonous. I'd play around with gradient maps and colour layers to give it some oomph and look less monotonous. Then I'd blur and sharpen some parts to make some depth before finally putting some 'nice' text on it.

Yeah, your banner is pretty much flat. Though some of the colours are somewhat visually appealing, it pretty much looks like a render slapped on a background with a bit of smudging? It's sort of empty around the sides and the text, though it make be small, yes it does stick out. Usually if the text sucks it makes the rest of your banner look bad, and since it sticks out a lot, text should be more inconspicuous (spelling? XD;;). A light source coming from where her hand is on her hat would look nice and a bit of sparkle shining on the sword would add a great affect, giving it a good sense of depth. But either than that, you've pretty much pointed out needs to be done.

Evaluation is complete; you may now proceed to redo your banner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kayashi (Post 4290443)
http://i41.*.com/jfxc9f.png
Hot damn, this sucked. First SOTW, for SOTW #1.

  • I remember searching for a background on google, putting it onto GIMP, and slapping the render over. Nawt gud.
  • Really bright, and there's no definite light source. Burns your eyes right out of their sockets.
  • Incredibly monotonous. Took all the natural color away from the render.
  • It really has no flow. The render itself has flow, but the banner detracts it. Flow should be going \\ direction.
  • The ~SOTW~ dangling in the middle of the banner was stupid.
  • I used a border of small font text; I mean, wtf. xD
  • Basically just a render slapped onto a background and splattered with cyan colorize.
  • Scanlines detracted quality.

  • Could do more than just slapping the render on there.
  • Make it less monotone by using greens, reds, purples, etc.
  • Add a light source. Maybe on the top left or at the bottom of her body near her hands.
  • Better background instead of an abstract sampler.
  • Completely redo the text. xD
  • Stick to the natural colors of the render a bit more instead of desaturating it and coating it with cyan.
  • TAKE AWAY THE BORDER. Dx
  • Utilize flow a bit more with c4ds and such.

Ahhh, I remember this one. XD; gawd my eyes. Monochrome colours are a no no, especially something that bright. @[email protected]; And the random floating SOTW.. XD; I'd say make the banner smaller or stick the render in the middle, since the left side is waaay too empty. Never cover the colours of the render, usually you use the colours of the render to guide what colours you can make your banner with. Since it's all blue.. It's too blue. Pretty much overkill on the scan lines, use of effects are off the charts, and yet with all those effects, it's still kind of flat. And yeah, text kind of ruins it too. Too much text often ruins it, you want more of the banner than text itself. Nothing else I need to mention for improvement, since you've covered it all.

Evaluation is complete; you may now proceed to redo your banner.

Gunners January 18th, 2009 6:41 AM

http://i43.*.com/kbsygi.jpg
dodgy effects, c4ds and stuff ( one of them makes it look like his arm pit smells)

colour isnt good either

Aizuke January 18th, 2009 6:52 AM

And what you think might improve it?

Gunners January 18th, 2009 7:11 AM

Uh position c4ds better and use better, make sum color so its not just plain and boring lighting too

the bitter end. January 18th, 2009 11:07 AM

I did, but I ended up in Vivaa's class xD

Perhaps I can learn in both? I would love to learn two styles from different people.

Dukey January 18th, 2009 1:20 PM

She's not teaching you styles.

Anyway here we go.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn184/McDukey/FoB.png
It's got pretty horrible text, no C4D's, smudging, clipping masks.

I suppose, some better text, clipping masks & C4D's might help it, maybe a smudge background as well.

the bitter end. January 18th, 2009 1:28 PM

Yes t w e n t y - t w o, but it would also be better because she's been teaching me up to this point.

Azonic January 18th, 2009 3:14 PM

http://i39.*.com/sq5lpf.png
I wish I didn't sharpen it that much, but eh. :[ Better?

Aizuke January 19th, 2009 12:38 AM

RyuKun, I would appreciate it if you kept your dicussion in the Graphics School thread, thanks. :x

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunners (Post 4290609)
http://i43.*.com/kbsygi.jpg
dodgy effects, c4ds and stuff ( one of them makes it look like his arm pit smells)

colour isnt good either

Uh position c4ds better and use better, make sum color so its not just plain and boring lighting too

I was hoping you'd actually say more, since this assignment was to show me what you know about your graphics, and what you know you can improve on. But first, the right side is empty and makes your banner imbalanced. The 2nd line of text is really hard to read, like I said with Kayashi, you don't want to add a lot of text in your banner and cram it all in. A light source would show more depth and a few gradient maps would help bring out the colour. But I don't know, in my person opinion, I would have to say that other graphics I've seen that you've made look a lot more worse. Examples are your pokemon banners, the renders stick out a lot, but with this banner and it's render, it blends in better than those of your pokemon ones. Either than that, like I mentioned lighting would do wonders and perhaps adding something to fill that empty space on the side, or just repositioning the render.

Evaluation is complete; you may now proceed to redo your banner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by t w e n t y - t w o . (Post 4291671)
She's not teaching you styles.

Anyway here we go.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn184/McDukey/FoB.png
It's got pretty horrible text, no C4D's, smudging, clipping masks.

I suppose, some better text, clipping masks & C4D's might help it, maybe a smudge background as well.

Same with you, Dukey, I was expecting more of a evaluation of your piece. But anywho, the render looks blended, but it sticks out like a swore thumb. :[ Not liking the text either, as I've said before, too much text on a banner doesn't look great. Huge text on a banner is the same effect really. Plus the text is barely readable. A light source would be good, all banners probably need a light source, though it has one, but it seems to be eveywhere on the render. The background is too plain and blurry, gradient maps would help to blend the render easily.

Evaluation is complete; you may now proceed to redo your banner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kayashi (Post 4291970)
http://i39.*.com/sq5lpf.png
I wish I didn't sharpen it that much, but eh. :[ Better?

Yeah, it's too over sharpened. XD; But mosly on the render, if you lowered it down a bit, it would look fine. But it's much better than your first attempt. I guess you skipped on the text this time. It would have been good if you had text to fill up the left hand side. But yeah much better. :3

Kayashi's Grade; A


Since you kinda finished a bit early, I haven't thought of a new assignment, so you'll have to wait a day or so. But feel free to post any graphics you'd like me to rate.

Zebra Thunderhead January 19th, 2009 6:25 AM

Sharpness on Kayashi's banner makes great depth~

/sprints

moments. January 19th, 2009 2:10 PM

ROFL, INTRUDER!
Lol I am nearly finished my piece Malyka so I will have that posted up here very soon!

Unforgettable January 19th, 2009 2:30 PM

I would like to join your class :o
*runs off to find worst tag*

Dukey January 19th, 2009 2:36 PM

Ok I've finished the assignment miss =D
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn184/McDukey/FallOutBoy.png

moments. January 19th, 2009 2:52 PM

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/mattimogalli/pirateSWORDcopy.png
Here is mine, I dunno, I haven't used an image like that in a long time!

Aizuke January 21st, 2009 2:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t w e n t y - t w o . (Post 4295163)

It's better, it has good depth, text is kind of hard to read, and I don't think there's a light source anywhere? But much better.

t w e n t y - t w o's Grade; A

Quote:

Originally Posted by noxious. (Post 4295219)
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/mattimogalli/pirateSWORDcopy.png
Here is mine, I dunno, I haven't used an image like that in a long time!

Looks better. :3 Love the effects, left side is empty though, but the text has good placement, though the background word is hard to read. Still messing a sense of depth though. :x

.noxious's Grade; A

Everyone else has around a week to complete the assignment, I think Jess and Gunner's are the last one's left?

moments. January 21st, 2009 2:29 AM

Are we allowed to post tags for you to rate? I noticed you said that to another student earlier, just confirming.

Aizuke January 21st, 2009 2:31 AM

Of course.

I suppose it's something you can do while I get another assignment up and wait for the others to get theirs done.

moments. January 21st, 2009 2:32 AM

Well I have a banner that I made yesterday I think that I posted in the Rating Thread to no success..

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/mattimogalli/revengecopy.png

Aizuke January 21st, 2009 2:38 AM

Well the effects are really nice, but the render doesn't really match with the purple background and sticks out a lot. Light source is good and it has some sense of depth but not much; with a bit of blurring and sharpening you could give it better depth. The white square at the bottom is rather distracting, since it's really bright and stands out a lot, I'm not sure if that's part of the light textures you've used or you did that on purpose. The text has good placement, but the E at the end is hard to read since it's near the render's shirt, so maybe a smaller size text would look better.

Eh, hoped this helped. XD; When it comes to rating, I'm not really good at it. :x

moments. January 21st, 2009 2:39 AM

Yeah the white box was part of the buildings stock used in the background so I might fix that up, same with the text and some more depth.
Can I repost it when I am finished for a secondary rate?

Aizuke January 21st, 2009 2:41 AM

Sure, though I'm not sure what else I could say about it. XD;;

moments. January 21st, 2009 2:43 AM

Oh I would just touch up on the points you made so you can tell me if I did what you were expecting.

Aizuke January 21st, 2009 2:46 AM

Oh well, okay, that I can do. XD;

Gunners January 21st, 2009 10:03 AM

http://i41.*.com/2w6bi4w.jpg

meh the render is quite bad. Its got sum white lines that i only just realsies under his right armpit lol poorly rendered but oh well

Unforgettable January 21st, 2009 10:27 AM

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h179/YunaDances/sotw.png

This is my entry for the first sotw. It's horrible. It's a render, with water texture, and lightened. There is no depth, and nothing interesting to it. Quality is horrible. :x

To fix it, I could add some gradient maps, a way better background, more than like 2 layers, depth, flow, take out the text, or at least blend it more. And leave the quality. The blurry look doesn't work to well. XD;

Gunners January 21st, 2009 11:03 AM

http://i39.*.com/2viktq9.jpg

could you rate this please

Dukey January 29th, 2009 2:07 AM

I think we are nearly due for another assignment.
If this place is still alive :/

Sweet Speed January 29th, 2009 8:42 AM

Hey, Aizuke can I please join this home room? I'll try and get the first assignment in today.

Gunners January 29th, 2009 11:54 AM

Can anyone in the homeroom rate this:

http://i41.*.com/rrv24k.jpg

Aizuke January 30th, 2009 3:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Speed (Post 4318682)
Hey, Aizuke can I please join this home room? I'll try and get the first assignment in today.

I'm not sure if you can just join or you have to request from the graphic's school thread, so once you post there, I can add you to the list.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunners (Post 4299861)
http://i41.*.com/2w6bi4w.jpg

meh the render is quite bad. Its got sum white lines that i only just realsies under his right armpit lol poorly rendered but oh well

I don't really how it's better than your other one. All it seems to be is just it's been tidied up and with the monochrome colours, it makes the render blend to the background better. Text is hard to read, I didn't realised it was there until I starred long enough. :x Right side is rather empy, though lighting source is good, still, it's a big plain, to be honest.

Gunner's Grade; B

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unforgettable (Post 4299886)
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h179/YunaDances/sotw.png

This is my entry for the first sotw. It's horrible. It's a render, with water texture, and lightened. There is no depth, and nothing interesting to it. Quality is horrible. :x

To fix it, I could add some gradient maps, a way better background, more than like 2 layers, depth, flow, take out the text, or at least blend it more. And leave the quality. The blurry look doesn't work to well. XD;

First rule of making tags, never filter your render. :x Or make the opacity lower. Making the render unclear kind of ruins the banner. It's rather spacious too, and empty wise. I'm sure it didn't take you long to make, no offense. XD;; Maybe to make it seem more watery, try to find some good watery looking textures or C4D's. But either than that, try all the things you've mentioned and see how it goes. :3

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Eh, my computer is crap so I can't see images. XD;; So I'll rate your recent banner, Gunners.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gunners (Post 4318944)
Can anyone in the homeroom rate this:

http://i41.*.com/rrv24k.jpg

In my opinion.. I don't like the render. XD;; And I don't know if you've erased the right little white part of her head or it's like that. One side of the banner seems more plainer than the other, and I've seen that most of your work are monochrome. :x Trying using other colours to lighten up your banners. And also, a white light background makes it awfully bright too. D:

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Okay, I know it's been a while, sorry. I've been busy with work and life. XD;

I have a new assignment though!
Assignment #2

This one is pretty easy, all you have to do is make a tag, but you can only use shapes. But! You can only use one sort of shape. If you've picked a circle, then you have to keep using circles. This is just a way to experiment with vectoring and the pen tool. You can use C4D's and textures, only if they match the shape you have chosen. Don't forget to add lighting, depth etc. Then once you've done, you must rate each others banners.

Assignments are due 9th of Febuary~

Dukey January 30th, 2009 1:26 PM

Assigment Two.
Okay, first time I've done something without a render/stock in quite a while.
Anyways, went for soe smudging stuff & Circles. Just to be safe I smudged circles XD
Anyways, it's alright. Here we go.
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn184/McDukey/CirclesSmudges.png

Aizuke January 30th, 2009 2:37 PM

That's pretty awesome. XD The blank space on the side fits well, though it's blankness.

Next person to complete the assignment must rate Dukey's banner.

Dukey January 30th, 2009 2:44 PM

Can we rate the other people's banners anyway? Like just because I've rated once doesn't me I can't again for example.
I assume we can, so I'll be rating everyone's :P

Aizuke January 30th, 2009 2:53 PM

Of course.

But this is like the graphics rating thread now, next poster must rate the above graphics.

Harsh criticism is wanted, since you won't improve if you don't know what you're doing wrong.

This is to help improve your criticing and being able to take harsh criticism. Since not everyone will be a fan of your work.

Extra credit points if you rate more than one banner. :DDD

Dukey January 30th, 2009 4:00 PM

Lol Extra Credit. That'll do a whole bunch :P
Anyways. I'll try to rate everybody's and I agree with what you said Mayka.
Harsh Critiscm is the only way I got better :/

Unforgettable February 3rd, 2009 9:50 AM

Well, I made a vertical banner, and had to use a different render. That one what that bad. But I stuck with the same subject. And I was brain dead while doing this but...
Assignment #1 (yay being late):
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h179/YunaDances/sotwredo2.png


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