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Haza January 23rd, 2009 5:22 PM

Okay, for those saying that they wouldnt like it if a gay guy hit on you thats not right to be stand-offish. I mean, if girls are not crazy about you what makes you think we would be? Also, when you see a gay person alone all the time could you please at least talk with them? Suicide rates are high in the gay community these days simply because they are not accepted by the rest of the world.

s0nido January 23rd, 2009 5:23 PM

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Erm...Let's move on. So I understand that males are built to be gay, but what do you say to the people that say tat you can do the same thing without a man to satisfy you?[/agelimit]

Margot January 23rd, 2009 5:23 PM

I'm am totally fine with it, you should love who you want to love and not have restrictions on it. I think that's totally lame, try telling straight people they can't marry because they're attracted to the opposite sex. It's no different from telling people they can't marry for loving the same sex. I don't think it's fair people can't marry who they want to because of it, and I'm upset about Proposition 8.

so yeah, nothing against it, like who you want to like.

Stronkadonk January 23rd, 2009 5:24 PM

Homosexuality isn't even a choice, it's a state of mind, and actually, I had done a report on it at the beginning of school, and it said some sort of social defect or something, but that is most likely true, as it is given to a person from the moment they enter this world.

Haza January 23rd, 2009 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord GaGa (Post 4305759)
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Erm...Let's move on. So I understand that males are built to be gay, but what do you say to the people that say tat you can do the same thing without a man to satisfy you?[/agelimit]

Well there is always those who desire a man to satisfy us so homosexuality is real. Its not only about sex with us also(though its the good part).

Metatron January 23rd, 2009 5:26 PM

...Why do people instantly assume that, just because someone's gay and of the same gender, that they'll hit on that person?

Dude, it's not like every chick you know hits on you, so what makes you assume that every gay guy you know will?

Personally, I don't fear being hit on by a guy. I'm not uh...into that sort of thing and yeah, it's kinda weird, but it's not something I'm worried about every time I'm in the same room with a gay guy xD;

Tokin January 23rd, 2009 5:27 PM

As I said, both possibilities are viable, I didn't say men were supposed to be gay, I said nature provided us with the means to live and experience the act fully if we turned out to be^^

Aegis January 23rd, 2009 5:27 PM

Well, being gay myself I obviously don't have any issues with it XD; Like other people have said, it isn't a choice. It's not like I woke up one day and just decided to be attracted to males, I've just been this way for as long as I can remember. So yeah, no problems with it.

Stronkadonk January 23rd, 2009 5:28 PM

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Originally Posted by - H A Z A - D I V O - (Post 4305756)
Okay, for those saying that they wouldnt like it if a gay guy hit on you thats not right to be stand-offish. I mean, if girls are not crazy about you what makes you think we would be? Also, when you see a gay person alone all the time could you please at least talk with them? Suicide rates are high in the gay community these days simply because they are not accepted by the rest of the world.

Actually, it is awkward, and if you were in our positions, you would most likely see it in the same way (Not everyone is like this, but most)
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Originally Posted by Lord GaGa (Post 4305759)
[agelimit]13+
Erm...Let's move on. So I understand that males are built to be gay, but what do you say to the people that say that you can do the same thing without a man to satisfy you?[/agelimit]

What do you mean?
Like basically someone telling a homosexual that it's better with the other side?
That's obviously not going to work, as gay people I know don't find the other side sexually arousing, and I definitely don't like other males.

Haza January 23rd, 2009 5:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Vega (Post 4305767)
...Why do people instantly assume that, just because someone's gay and of the same gender, that they'll hit on that person?

Dude, it's not like every chick you know hits on you, so what makes you assume that every gay guy you know will?

Personally, I don't fear being hit on by a guy. I'm not uh...into that sort of thing and yeah, it's kinda weird, but it's not something I'm worried about every time I'm in the same room with a gay guy xD;

Well said. I completely agree and I am very popular at school among guys and girls and there are only a few guys that resist me. If someone is likely to hit on someone, they would hit on me first. Its surprising how many guys ask you to do... things with them.

Gummy January 23rd, 2009 5:31 PM

I'm not gonna lie and say I don't mind it, because God knows if a good friend of mine suddenly told me he was gay and serious about it, I'll never really look at him the same. Not that I'd throw away a friendship over it, but the question "is he checking me out/" will always remain in the back of my mind. If the gay couple doesn't affect my life at all, then sure, rock on with gay marriage and stuff, but when it get's too close then I will feel a little uncomfortable.

Stronkadonk January 23rd, 2009 5:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gummy (Post 4305785)
I'm not gonna lie and say I don't mind it, because God knows if a good friend of mine suddenly told me he was gay and serious about it, I'll never really look at him the same. Not that I'd throw away a friendship over it, but the question "is he checking me out/" will always remain in the back of my mind. If the gay couple doesn't affect my life at all, then sure, rock on with gay marriage and stuff, but when it get's too close then I will feel a little uncomfortable.

I feel the exact same way.
It's also awkward when you have to do a project paired up with a gay guy.
It's just... too hard to describe, but I don't like it.
The only gay person that I absolutely hate is the one at my school, because...
Let's just go with, before you know he's gay, and you try and be nice, he barks at you.
So yeah... But anyone else, do what you want, I don't care, as long as you don't start feeling attracted to me.

Tokin January 23rd, 2009 5:34 PM

We do not come on anyone any more than a girl approaches a guy and vice versa, I for one, have no interest in anyone other than my couple, though I will admit that the extroverted type(stereotypical) will attempt to make such deliberate approaches, but so will "pimps" and the like, so it is not an excusive thing.

Nick January 23rd, 2009 5:37 PM

Replying to a few things that stood out to me for both positive and negative reasons. I'll assume that from these replies, you'll know my standings on this.

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Originally Posted by Alex31 (Post 4304879)
Its been proven that 4/5 people go through a homosexual period, so theres nothing wrong with it.

This is true. I've gone through this so much. Ask anyone of my friends who I talk to online and all of them will say "I have no idea what sexuality Nick is." I assure you of that. And really, there's nothing I, or anyone, can do about it. People, like Luke, are being forced by their parents to go to gender counselors as if their parents believe that they can really decide who they are physically attracted to. That's probably the dumbest occupation I can think of. Most of the people who go through that only get put down by the people trying to "help" them and end up losing confidence in themselves.

With that said:

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Nick says:
*The first reply to that first quote is so true. <3
Jeff says:
*It is :|
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Originally Posted by -[JD]- (Post 4304909)
I'm fine with homosexuality, but at some points it bothers me; espeically at schools. This guys are homosexual, but they walk and talk like a girl. Seriously? I can understand homosexuality - Everyone has those thoughts once in awhile.

To me it's just weird. Everyone knows your gay, everyones fine with it, but why do you want to walk and act like a girl. Thats when people start to get mad.

Sorry, but thats just my opinion - Sorry if I was offensive to anyone in particular.

That's called metro(sexuality). It's when someone chemically has more traits from their mother in their hereditary than their father. It's nothing someone can control and many straight people have this as well. It has nothing to do with who someone likes. Therefore, has no personal standards.

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Originally Posted by Mitchman Is (Post 4305177)
No problem with it. Bu8t where i am making fun of it is cool so i just do so to seem cool. Otherwise i find em cool. As long as they dont hit on me i am fine. I mean i prefer girls and all.

Who are you trying to seem cool to? I assure you, if you're trying to impress the ladies, you're strongly mistaken. The only people you'll seem cool towards are homophobic males. Girls will look at you disgusted. But if you want to go against your beliefs and then say it's ok to do that to them as long as they don't hit you, you're setting the wrong moral standards for yourself and for that I pity you.

Finally, it's not for me to decide what's right or wrong in society.
It isn't society's place to decide what's right or wrong in individuals.
It's an individual's responsibility to determine what's right or wrong for themselves.
Everyone but the individual has no say in what goes on in their life.

Yamikarasu January 23rd, 2009 6:03 PM

I don't actually have any close friends that are gay, but I do have a few friends whom I suspect might actually be gay. It's just a suspicion on my part however, and of course I don't think any less of them for it.

I'm perfectly fine with it myself. I hope to be a part of the gay rights movement someday. Living in Utah, (there are a lot of Mormons who supported Prop 8) I would think I'll have plenty of opportunities.

Capt. Couch January 23rd, 2009 8:08 PM

Homosexuality is perfectly fine. I don't mind being around gay people at all. It does not matter if you are gay, straight, bisexual, asexual or pomosexual. We are all human beings.

Homophobes simply disappoint me... They really do... While they usually spout a Biblical phrase against gays and lesbians, they fail to realize that the six or so verses out of 31,000 in the Bible which (hardly) imply a same-sex relationship don't even truly say "Homosexuality is a sin." I don't mean to say that all homophobes are religious, but when the numbers are boiled down, most homophobes are fundamental Christians.

Homophobia is gay. :P

kingofjokers January 23rd, 2009 8:20 PM

if they love they love im fine with it just keep it out of the public please sometimes it just sick to see maby in some states and not in others will work fine but overall im fine with it as long as it dosnt involve me

Wish January 23rd, 2009 8:28 PM

Woo...Gay search ads. XD

I'm fine with anyone being homosexual. Having many friends who are homosexual, even my best friend in matter of fact, makes you realize that they are normal people as much as straight people are. Religion, in my opinion, cannot stop the way humans are formed and born. I am a devoted Catholic and I have done many things that guys are not supposed to do together. Even if I turn out straight in the future myself (When you're a teenager, you cannot really tell due to hormones) that won't change opinions about homosexuals.

Trap-Eds January 23rd, 2009 9:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurafire (Post 4304964)
And yet bible bashers take to the streets and protest it every day....One of the many reasons why I hate religion >.<

All those religious people can say what they want. I refuse to believe the Bible says that gays cannot marry, being gay is a sin, etc. etc. It's just not right, especially when they say that "God loves everybody for who they are" or something. XP

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Originally Posted by Kite Katsumi (Post 4304978)
"Its legal for two straight people who hate each other to get married, but two gay people who truly love each other can't"

Oh man, that is so ironically true. xD

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Originally Posted by Gummy (Post 4305785)
I'm not gonna lie and say I don't mind it, because God knows if a good friend of mine suddenly told me he was gay and serious about it, I'll never really look at him the same. Not that I'd throw away a friendship over it, but the question "is he checking me out/" will always remain in the back of my mind. If the gay couple doesn't affect my life at all, then sure, rock on with gay marriage and stuff, but when it get's too close then I will feel a little uncomfortable.

Yeah, I would feel/think the same way.

Akio123 January 23rd, 2009 9:13 PM

People, I believe anyone, just need to figure out this is not some choice. If it were that means we were all born bisexual and made a life decision on our sexuality.

Zelos January 23rd, 2009 9:21 PM

What I've always wondered is... are people really born this way? For those that say God created them 'gay' or 'lesbian,' it says in the Bible that homosexuals won't inherit the kingdom of God. So... would God create you so you would never reach him eternally? [If that's what you believe?]

I think that as you grow and mature, homosexuality is something you choose. Sure, you can start to have these feelings as a kid or a teen... but that doesn't mean you have to pursue them.

Nick January 23rd, 2009 9:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zelos (Post 4306247)
I think that as you grow and mature, homosexuality is something you choose. Sure, you can start to have these feelings as a kid or a teen... but that doesn't mean you have to pursue them.

It does mean, however, you can't control who you have these feelings for. You can't make yourself like something that you aren't interested in. That's just the way it is. In elaboration, I'm a Christian, however, I don't believe that God has any control over what your DNA includes in it's strands. Nobody does. It's basically what you inherit and how they are arranged that, in my opinion, controls what sexuality you are just like it controls everything else, both physically and chemically, in your body.

Kite Katsumi January 23rd, 2009 9:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kingofjokers (Post 4306116)
if they love they love im fine with it just keep it out of the public please sometimes it just sick to see maby in some states and not in others will work fine but overall im fine with it as long as it dosnt involve me

Its no different than a man and a woman in public. Its two people who love each other. If you don't like it, don't watch. How would you feel if you were hugging and/or kissing, or holding hands with the person you loved, and someone made a disgusted face at you and asked you to keep it out of the public, while everyone else continued to show their love and affection? People fail to realize just how much the gay community is shunned, even today. Its unfair, as are many things. They're being stripped of some basic human rights and its a crying damn shame.

Akio123 January 23rd, 2009 9:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zelos (Post 4306247)

I think that as you grow and mature, homosexuality is something you choose. Sure, you can start to have these feelings as a kid or a teen... but that doesn't mean you have to pursue them.

You can't really help who your attracted to. What you are telling people to do (no offense) sounds like they should never truly find love (romantic love anyway). Sure you can pursue someone of the opposite gender, but what if you really only care for them as a person? I mean you may not really be attracted to them and trying to deny something.

Zelos January 23rd, 2009 9:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Aurapostle (Post 4306260)
It does mean, however, you can't control who you have these feelings for. You can't make yourself like something that you aren't interested in. That's just the way it is. In elaboration, I'm a Christian, however, I don't believe that God has any control over what your DNA includes in it's strands. Nobody does. It's basically what you inherit and how they are arranged that, in my opinion, controls what sexuality you are just like it controls everything else, both physically and chemically, in your body.

So... you're saying God doesn't have ultimate control over everything? [Sorry, not trying to start a religious debate, just pointing out something.]

I'm a Christian, too. God created people in His image, and naturally... that does not include homosexuality. Otherwise, they would never be able to reach His kingdom.

But as kids grow, as they're affected by day-to-day culture and influence, they begin to make their own decisions. God can start you out on the 'right' path, so to speak... but ultimately, it's a person decision they have to make for themselves.


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