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Mitchman January 31st, 2009 11:56 AM

MSN and the spyware brigade
 
So yeah this is a question thread. A few months ago(no actually a whole year passes since then) every email in my country that used MSN messenger got hacked. Now not hacked hacked but if you were to login it would send a virus file to a friend no all friends and such. Or it would send it without your knowledge. Now here is my question:
Since this happens for me and i cant change email as its my email and i cant find a suitable name that can explain who i am would it effect my computer at all and send spyware to it or no? Of course this only happens to me for messenge 9 and above.

Mr. Epic January 31st, 2009 12:47 PM

I think I might of had this problem, straight after you sign out it sign in and sends a link to a harmful ad site with a smiley, but I though it was because a site had took my password and so I changed my password and got rid of it. However ever since I did I got these contacts adding me which were bots sending links to videos of apparently them naked. I didn't fall for this and blocked them and there SPAM mail. It did not happen to my family MSN account though only mine so that's why I am expecting it to have been a site that had my password.

Try scanning your computer with a good anti-virus to make sure you have no adware in case its on you machine but then if its not like me change your password.

Mitchman January 31st, 2009 1:18 PM

I did scan my computer and it is fine. I mean I trust NOD-32 a lot as i find it very useful and such. But yeah changing my password might do me good but 1 question:
How is that possible with hotmail?

Pazuzu January 31st, 2009 1:37 PM

Step 1: Don't enter your login details on random websites. There is no such thing as block checkers, and every website asking for your Live ID except the Windows Live Login page is a hoax.

Step 2: Change your Live ID password, alternate email adress and secret question. Once you do so, third parties will not be able to log in anymore, thus virus spam is stopped from your account.

Step 3: Repeat step 1.

Melody January 31st, 2009 1:51 PM

Rule of thumb: NEVER EVER ENTER YOUR WINDOWS LIVE LOGIN DETAILS UNLESS YOU SEE:
http(s)://login.live.com
In the url. ALL MICROSOFT SITES DEFER TO THAT ADDRESS WHEN QUERYING THE USER FOR WINDOWS LIVE LOGIN DETAILS!!!

Upon clicking a 'Log In' Link on any microsoft site, it redirects you to: http://login.live.com/login.srf?= <some random information, including session number and references to cookies stored on your machine, and the microsoft URL from which the Login Request originated from>

For the technically challenged:
This simply means, that it sends you to their http://login.live.com/ site to perform the login, which sets a cookie on your browser that says 'Hey, this is so-and-so and he is now logged in'. All microsoft sites look for that browser cookie, and only the windows live login servers can actually set that cookie properly. (I'd explain how that works but that's getting into cryptography and all, and it'd make a huge wall of needless text)

Pazuzu January 31st, 2009 1:57 PM

And you needlessly repeated what I said why?

Mr. Epic January 31st, 2009 2:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Planet (Post 4323066)
And you needlessly repeated what I said why?

I should say that to you as you repeated most of what I had said, change your password and I clearly inferred that putting your password on to sites other than the MSN sites is a bad thing to do.

Edit: Changing your password is all you really need to do to solve the problem.

The Exorcist January 31st, 2009 3:17 PM

This normally happens when people sign up for those so called 'block checkers' and even the most stupid gimmicks including 'love calculators', the website ends up collecting the login data you entered, so they have access and normally send links to the site AND infected files. It's annoying, most girls at my school have now got that on MSN.

Becky_x January 31st, 2009 3:22 PM

I remember this happening to me, I got a message at like 3am (left my computer on all night but I was asleep) from a friend who I know leaves his computer on all the time but is rarely actually at it. If I remember right it may have had a link in it, not sure if I clicked it or not but I might have done seeing as it was from someone I knew (which is probably how it gets to be spread around!)

Later on I was speaking to another friend and they said it happened to them aswell and that it was a virus so I had to run my cleaners.

I've not seen owt like it since though thankfully.

Zet January 31st, 2009 4:06 PM

umm.... so how exactly did you know that everyone in your country was hacked, are they stupid or just really gullible to fall for an obvious virus? and you might want to run a virus scan for the registry since some msn viruses add/change stuff to the registry

Rukario January 31st, 2009 4:31 PM

yeah.. its also most likely between you and your friends locally as well, as there was no national or world-wide coverage of anything in the tech press or security sites.

Mitchman February 1st, 2009 12:09 AM

Well it could be all my friends and that's it but then again i had 10 friends who had this and they all had there friends who had this and so on so forth so yeah maybe just a small group of what 1000-200 people had this. And i am not stupid enough to give login detail away anyway. But i should change my password as its very easy and its my password everywhere.who wants it!


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