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BDT August 12th, 2009 5:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 4977642)
It'd be easier to suggest a flying type if you showed us the rest of your team. So far we only know of Swampert...and we can't make much of a suggestion off of that. Each pokemon serves different roles which is why we need to see it. Do you need a wall? Do you need something that isn't SR weak? Ect, ect.

So basically we just need to see the rest of your team (planned sets as well, just stating a pokemon's name is no help as a good amount of pokemon have various capabilities).

Well my team is/was
Swampert the new EV one
Staraptor - Need a new flying type as its not EV trained

The rest arent EV train so Im going to re do my team with different pokemon but here they are

Infernape
Scizor
Pikachu
Lucario

So i had some balanced team that could take care of nearly everytype of pokemon.., I will keep my Staraptor but for in game but need a new team for in game and wifi as I explained so i do need a Flying / Fire / Electric...not sure about the other two type might think have a dragon.
But at mo im concentrating on a flying type

Hope this has answerd your Question.

FreakyLocz14 August 12th, 2009 8:28 PM

A few Pokemon I'm considering for my Suspect team

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Jolly Nature
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Speed
-Outrage
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge

Manaphy @ Damp Rock
Timid Nature
4 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe
-Rain Dance
-Rest
-Surf
-Energy Ball

Tyranitar @ Life Orb
Adamant Nature
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Pursuit
-Aqua Tail

Latios @ Soul Dew
Timid Nature
4 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe
-Draco Meteor
-Recover
-Psycho Cut
-Refresh

MMundy777 August 12th, 2009 8:33 PM

I am currently building a fire team and am in the beginning of producing it...

i wish to not use legendary pokemon, but am in need of one more.

could you possibly suggest something??

my current team is

Blaziken
Houndoom
Magmotar
Salamence
Cherrim

thanks =]

Chaostorm August 12th, 2009 9:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMundy777 (Post 4978180)
I am currently building a fire team and am in the beginning of producing it...

i wish to not use legendary pokemon, but am in need of one more.

could you possibly suggest something??

my current team is

Blaziken
Houndoom
Magmotar
Salamence
Cherrim

thanks =]

what are the EVs , Nature , Movesets , Etc of your team ?

.Aero August 12th, 2009 9:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDT (Post 4977665)
Well my team is/was
Swampert the new EV one
Staraptor - Need a new flying type as its not EV trained

The rest arent EV train so Im going to re do my team with different pokemon but here they are

Infernape
Scizor
Pikachu
Lucario

So i had some balanced team that could take care of nearly everytype of pokemon.., I will keep my Staraptor but for in game but need a new team for in game and wifi as I explained so i do need a Flying / Fire / Electric...not sure about the other two type might think have a dragon.
But at mo im concentrating on a flying type

Hope this has answerd your Question.

based off of your teams type weaknesses, I'd suggest Salamence to help cover that up. Luke and Scizor both lose to fire, and Salamence resists. He's also immune to ground which beats up all of your pokes (bar Swampert) and resists fighting which Luke could have a problem with. ;D Hope this helps.

Chaostorm August 12th, 2009 9:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDT (Post 4977665)
Well my team is/was
Swampert the new EV one
Staraptor - Need a new flying type as its not EV trained

The rest arent EV train so Im going to re do my team with different pokemon but here they are

Infernape
Scizor
Pikachu
Lucario

So i had some balanced team that could take care of nearly everytype of pokemon.., I will keep my Staraptor but for in game but need a new team for in game and wifi as I explained so i do need a Flying / Fire / Electric...not sure about the other two type might think have a dragon.
But at mo im concentrating on a flying type

Hope this has answerd your Question.


Mence and Gyara are your Ideal Flyings

Riggzyd August 12th, 2009 10:41 PM

I got 2 questions

During the level 100 wifi battle do your pokemon BECOME lvl 100 for the battle?

Why do so many people want a Feebas?

Pokedra August 13th, 2009 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riggzyd (Post 4978488)
I got 2 questions

During the level 100 wifi battle do your pokemon BECOME lvl 100 for the battle?

Why do so many people want a Feebas?

No I'm pretty sure they stay the level that are but I could be wrong since I haven't played W-Fi in ages @[email protected]

Feebas is wanted because it's an achievement to find one and it evolves into Milotic which is fairly great Pokemon.

Aurafire August 13th, 2009 2:04 AM

They become level 100 for the duration of the battle, but go back to their original level after it's complete.

BDT August 13th, 2009 3:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 4978375)
based off of your teams type weaknesses, I'd suggest Salamence to help cover that up. Luke and Scizor both lose to fire, and Salamence resists. He's also immune to ground which beats up all of your pokes (bar Swampert) and resists fighting which Luke could have a problem with. ;D Hope this helps.

Well like I said the last 4 on my team I most prob change as there not EV trained or even 5 as Staraptor wont be good in WiFi battles, but if you still think Salamence is good idea what nature and moveset you reckon I should have..it should have at least one flying type move (unless you think otherwise) thanks.

Pokedra August 13th, 2009 3:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 4978165)
A few Pokemon I'm considering for my Suspect team

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Jolly Nature
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Speed
-Outrage
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge

Hmmm..looks good :]

[email protected]
252 HP / 80 SpAtk / 176 Spe
Timid Nature
- Substitute
- Surf
- Tail Glow / Calm Mind
- Ice Beam

This would honestly work better.

Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature
176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Spe
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Pursuit
-Aqua Tail

This'll work better ;D

Latios @ Choice Specs
Timid Nature
4 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe
-Draco Meteor
-Surf
-Trick
-Dragon Pulse

Soul Dew is banned =P Try Specs or LO set.

Good luck on your suspects team :]

.Aero August 13th, 2009 7:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDT (Post 4978925)
Well like I said the last 4 on my team I most prob change as there not EV trained or even 5 as Staraptor wont be good in WiFi battles, but if you still think Salamence is good idea what nature and moveset you reckon I should have..it should have at least one flying type move (unless you think otherwise) thanks.

Salamence@Life Orb
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~ Dragon Dance
~ Outrage
~ Earthquake
~ Fire Fang / Stone Edge / Dragon Claw

It's a Dragon Dance Salamence. It's extremely powerful, but all you have to do is watch out for Ice Shard users (namely Mamoswine). Flying type moves aren't very useful on him when he has access to the others listed here. Fire Fang may be your best bet as steels are very prominent in OU right now.

BDT August 13th, 2009 9:58 AM

ok thanks, I guess with this Salamence I wouldnt need a flyinging type on my team

Swampert
Salamence

Now need to think of the remaining 4 :S

FinalPaladin August 13th, 2009 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BDT (Post 4978925)
Well like I said the last 4 on my team I most prob change as there not EV trained or even 5 as Staraptor wont be good in WiFi battles, but if you still think Salamence is good idea what nature and moveset you reckon I should have..it should have at least one flying type move (unless you think otherwise) thanks.

why dont you just rebreed ur un evd pokes, its not like you can never use that pokemon again

.Aero August 13th, 2009 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 4980325)
why dont you just rebreed ur un evd pokes, its not like you can never use that pokemon again

I was just about to suggest that. xD Although I'd honestly replace Pikachu with something like Magnezone or some other electric type that doesn't suck. xD

It's not that difficult to re-breed, especially if you plan to catch other pokemon anyway.

EDIT: Don't do Magnezone, then you have a Fire weakness. Replace Pikachu with Zapdos (if you can).

HyPeRsHoCk August 13th, 2009 10:45 AM

I have a Torterra with the item Big Root. His moves are Earthquake, Leech Seed, Crunch, and Solar Beam. Should I replace any of these moves with Giga Drain? If so, which one?

.Aero August 13th, 2009 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyPeRsHoCk (Post 4980411)
I have a Torterra with the item Big Root. His moves are Earthquake, Leech Seed, Crunch, and Solar Beam. Should I replace any of these moves with Giga Drain? If so, which one?

No, Torterra doesn't want a set like that. Try something like this:

Torterra@Leftovers
Nature: Timid
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 Spe
~ Wood Hammer
~ Earthquake / Stone Edge
~ Leech Seed
~ Stealth Rock / Protect

natedogg August 13th, 2009 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 4980427)
No, Torterra doesn't want a set like that. Try something like this:

Torterra@Leftovers
Nature: Impish
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 Spe
~ Wood Hammer
~ Earthquake / Stone Edge
~ Leech Seed
~ Stealth Rock / Protect

You might want that nature instead ;).

HyPeRsHoCk August 13th, 2009 10:52 AM

Oh btw, I forgot to mention that I'm not planning to use him on competitively at all. Just in game really. :P

.Aero August 13th, 2009 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natedogg (Post 4980445)
You might want that nature instead ;).

Thanks for pointing that out. :P That was a huge mistake on my part.

Um, either way, it's still a good set for him. If you do plan to use it in-game, this thing will dominate, that's for sure. If you don't want that though, then there's really no suggestion. In-game is truly based on preference as all that matters is type match ups and your own pokemon's level.

HyPeRsHoCk August 13th, 2009 10:59 AM

Ok thanks! :D But how do I get Wood Hammer and Leftovers?

FinalPaladin August 13th, 2009 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .Aero (Post 4980345)
I was just about to suggest that. xD Although I'd honestly replace Pikachu with something like Magnezone or some other electric type that doesn't suck. xD

It's not that difficult to re-breed, especially if you plan to catch other pokemon anyway.

EDIT: Don't do Magnezone, then you have a Fire weakness. Replace Pikachu with Zapdos (if you can).


hehe, my alakasam fortold the future with future sight, could i have a special luxray set please

gggrrrr i cant get a DAMN bold ditto to make my slowbro

.Aero August 13th, 2009 11:01 AM

To get leftovers: Munchlax carries it occasionally when caught, or you could get it in the BF for some amount of BP. >.< Don't know how much. Or you could go to the trade thread and ask for one. :/

To get Wood Hammer: Take your Torterra to the move re-learner guy (not really sure what he wants or where he lives) and then the move should be there. I'll edit in a sec with his location and price. ;D

He resides in Pastoria, and he requires a Heart Scale (can be dug up in the Underground) to relearn a move.

Dark Azelf August 13th, 2009 11:02 AM

No ingame things please. Read the rules before posting. Also you are in the wrong sticky, use "Request an Individual Moveset / Incomplete Team Help Thread" for pokemon please.

HyPeRsHoCk August 13th, 2009 11:05 AM

Ok. Thank you very much for the help. And I'm really sorry Dark. I won't do it again.

.Aero August 13th, 2009 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 4980509)
No ingame things please. Read the rules before posting. Also you are in the wrong sticky, use "Request an Individual Moveset / Incomplete Team Help Thread" for pokemon please.

Wow, I can't believe I overlooked that. >.< I thought this was the Individual Moveset thread...my bad. Well I think I saved myself with explaining how to get leftovers/Wood Hammer, right? xD

iCrash August 13th, 2009 11:07 AM

EV Help.
 
I have recently read the guides and how to EV train, i already had a brief understanding, but it can't hurt to re-cap right?

However, there are still issues i just can't grasp.
First and foremost,
When training to level 50 what is the maximum number of EV's i can have?

Secondly,
If i have a team of level 20~ pokemon, I want to train them to level 50 with maximum EV's, do i need to start again from level 1?

Thirdly,
Is there any sure fire way of calculating how many EV's your pokemon currently has?

Fourthly(is that even a word? :P)
Whilst EV training, do you have to kill solely the pokemon that gains you the correct EV's to level up? or can you kill the necessary amount and then train on whatever you can find? For example, i'm after speed EV's so would training against nothing more than Manectric be more beneficial than training against X# manectric and then random pokemon to gain the level up exp?

Fithly(ok these definately aren't words now.) and Finally,
Could someone give me a brief description on how they would go about EV training an umbreon for speed. Like a level by level guide (up til level 50)

Ok, so i know i'm asking for a LOT here, and i really, really REALLY will appreciate your practically essays of an answer, so anyone who can help me out here, will not only be in my 'good books' I guess you'll be entitled to a favour from me anytime.

Mucho Appreciendo
-Crash.

jigglyppuff8 August 13th, 2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iCrash (Post 4980548)
I have recently read the guides and how to EV train, i already had a brief understanding, but it can't hurt to re-cap right?

However, there are still issues i just can't grasp.
First and foremost,
When training to level 50 what is the maximum number of EV's i can have?

Secondly,
If i have a team of level 20~ pokemon, I want to train them to level 50 with maximum EV's, do i need to start again from level 1?

Thirdly,
Is there any sure fire way of calculating how many EV's your pokemon currently has?

Fourthly(is that even a word? :P)
Whilst EV training, do you have to kill solely the pokemon that gains you the correct EV's to level up? or can you kill the necessary amount and then train on whatever you can find? For example, i'm after speed EV's so would training against nothing more than Manectric be more beneficial than training against X# manectric and then random pokemon to gain the level up exp?

Fithly(ok these definately aren't words now.) and Finally,
Could someone give me a brief description on how they would go about EV training an umbreon for speed. Like a level by level guide (up til level 50)

Ok, so i know i'm asking for a LOT here, and i really, really REALLY will appreciate your practically essays of an answer, so anyone who can help me out here, will not only be in my 'good books' I guess you'll be entitled to a favour from me anytime.

Mucho Appreciendo
-Crash.

1. Any given Pokemon can only have a total of 255 EVs in a single stat and 510 total.
2. That depends. Did they battle beforehand? If they did, then you might want to since they may have undesired EVs. An alternate option would be to use the EV reducing berries (Pomeg-Tamato) to reduce all their EVs back to 0.
3. Well, technically yes, but you have to know your Pokemon's IVs (Individual Values) as well. Otherwise, you'll have to keep track of them yourself some other way (pencil and paper, memory, etc.).
4. Since every Pokemon gives some number of EVs, you can't just battle random Pokemon to level up until you finished EV training completely i.e. get all 510 EVs (which you can confirm by getting the Effort Ribbon in Sunyshore City).
5. You don't EV train evenly throughout levels. Instead, it's just easier to just distribute the 510 EVs in the stats you want in the earlier levels and not worry about them later.

Does this help?

iCrash August 13th, 2009 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpp8 (Post 4980645)
1. Any given Pokemon can only have a total of 255 EVs in a single stat and 510 total.
2. That depends. Did they battle beforehand? If they did, then you might want to since they may have undesired EVs. An alternate option would be to use the EV reducing berries (Pomeg-Tamato) to reduce all their EVs back to 0.
3. Well, technically yes, but you have to know your Pokemon's IVs (Individual Values) as well. Otherwise, you'll have to keep track of them yourself some other way (pencil and paper, memory, etc.).
4. Since every Pokemon gives some number of EVs, you can't just battle random Pokemon to level up until you finished EV training completely i.e. get all 510 EVs (which you can confirm by getting the Effort Ribbon in Sunyshore City).
5. You don't EV train evenly throughout levels. Instead, it's just easier to just distribute the 510 EVs in the stats you want in the earlier levels and not worry about them later.

Does this help?

I'm at a loss here. My apologies as what your saying probably makes sense, but i can't make heads or tails of it atm, i'll re-glance at it tommorow and hope it goes in.
Really appreciate the help, you are now entitled to one favour ;D!

Also
thanks for the move, thought it was too lengthy for this personally, however, i was wrong thanks.

BDT August 13th, 2009 12:34 PM

I might re breed my team but I thought why not have a change and start a new Team from scratch, thanks all Ill prob post more where when i need more advice

Jaimes August 13th, 2009 2:20 PM

Can someone explain the hype behind Tyraniboah? I'm not getting the Substitute+Focus Punch combo and reckon there are much better SpA sweepers out there.

kthnx =]

Aurafire August 13th, 2009 2:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaimes (Post 4981302)
Can someone explain the hype behind Tyraniboah? I'm not getting the Substitute+Focus Punch combo and reckon there are much better SpA sweepers out there.

kthnx =]

I wouldn't call it "hype" , but Boah is a legitimate strategy.

Tyranitar often forces a lot of switches after it comes in, so Boah takes advantage of that fact by setting up a substitute. From there, you can hopefully deal with whatever switches in by firing off a Focus Punch or one of your special attacks. Basically, Boah eases prediction and tries to take advantage of common switchins (bulky grounds/steels) to Tyranitar's more popular physical sets.

And Subpunching is a relativel common strategy. Since Focus Punch hits only when you don't take damage from an upcoming attack, setting up a substitute makes it a much easier move to use, since your opponent has to break your sub whilst you attack.

reecestevenson August 14th, 2009 12:20 AM

Poliwhirl help
 
I have a Poliwhirl as my water pokemon at the moment and I need to know is better to train it up to a good level first or evolve it first? Also what is a good move set for it?

thanks

FinalPaladin August 14th, 2009 2:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reecestevenson (Post 4983068)
I have a Poliwhirl as my water pokemon at the moment and I need to know is better to train it up to a good level first or evolve it first? Also what is a good move set for it?

thanks

it does not matter when you evolve it, if you have 2 poliwhirl, both with 31 IV's in every thing(not liikely) and they both have careful nature and they both have uuuhhh lets say 252hp/252def and 4 sp.def
EVS, if you evolve one at level 20 and you train it to level 50, and you evolve the second at level 50, they will both have the same stats

oh it depends who your gonna evolve it into poliwrath or toad

Jaimes August 14th, 2009 2:41 AM

Alrighty, I have an Empoleon which I'm about to re-EV train - any thoughts on whether this will be worthwhile?

Empoleon - Timid
Probably some Berry/ Leftovers attached...

- Surf (May switch to Hydro Pump for later)
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
- Stealth Rock/ Any other TM/level/ Pt Move tutor *
*No Agility/Sleep Talk/HP for now =(

I'm considering: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe - I'm not a big fan of the defensive spread & would rather just be hitting with a decent amount of damage.

FinalPaladin August 14th, 2009 2:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaimes (Post 4983468)
Alrighty, I have an Empoleon which I'm about to re-EV train - any thoughts on whether this will be worthwhile?

Empoleon - Timid
Probably some Berry/ Leftovers attached...

- Surf (May switch to Hydro Pump for later)
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
- Stealth Rock/ Any other TM/level/ Pt Move tutor *
*No Agility/Sleep Talk/HP for now =(

I'm considering: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe - I'm not a big fan of the defensive spread & would rather just be hitting with a decent amount of damage.

you should have agility on the last slot to let empoleon sweep, its a must have on the damaging spread

reecestevenson August 14th, 2009 3:34 AM

Poliwhirl moveset
 
My poliwag just evolved into a poliwhirl and it has a naive nature I was just wondering what EV's should I train it in?

And could anyone give me a good moveset for this pokemon.

Thanks

FinalPaladin August 14th, 2009 3:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reecestevenson (Post 4983568)
My poliwag just evolved into a poliwhirl and it has a naive nature I was just wondering what EV's should I train it in?

And could anyone give me a good moveset for this pokemon.

Thanks

who are you going to evolve poliwhirl into, we need to know

reecestevenson August 14th, 2009 3:49 AM

Poliwhirl
 
I'm evolving my poliwhirl into a Poliwrath.

FinalPaladin August 14th, 2009 3:52 AM

ok, what type of set do you want, offensive or defensive

Pokedra August 14th, 2009 4:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reecestevenson (Post 4983568)
My poliwag just evolved into a poliwhirl and it has a naive nature I was just wondering what EV's should I train it in?

And could anyone give me a good moveset for this pokemon.

Thanks

Well with Naive you might as well run a SubPunch set, defensive set won't work as well with a Naive nature(though since it's meant for walling physical attacks you still could try I guess).

Poliwrath @ Leftovers
EV : 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
-Focus Punch
-Substitute
-Ice Punch
-Brick Break / Waterfall

reecestevenson August 14th, 2009 4:03 AM

Poliwhirl
 
I would probably want offense. this would be a good switch out for my Arcanine

Dark Azelf August 14th, 2009 4:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaimes (Post 4983468)
Alrighty, I have an Empoleon which I'm about to re-EV train - any thoughts on whether this will be worthwhile?

Empoleon - Timid
Probably some Berry/ Leftovers attached...

- Surf (May switch to Hydro Pump for later)
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
- Stealth Rock/ Any other TM/level/ Pt Move tutor *
*No Agility/Sleep Talk/HP for now =(

I'm considering: 156 HP / 252 SpA / 100 Spe - I'm not a big fan of the defensive spread & would rather just be hitting with a decent amount of damage.


http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/empoleon

Really depends on what role you want if for.

TFN August 14th, 2009 12:22 PM

I have A Naughty Houndoom and want to Ev train It. I was thinking about mixed sweeper but more on the physical side so could someone help me with a set please.

Thanks in Advance

wolf August 14th, 2009 1:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TFN (Post 4985405)
I have A Naughty Houndoom and want to Ev train It. I was thinking about mixed sweeper but more on the physical side so could someone help me with a set please.

Thanks in Advance

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/49/Spr_4p_229_m.png @ Life Orb
Ability: Flash Fire
Nature: Naughty
EVs: 252 Atk / 76 SpA / 180 Speed
- Overheat
- Crunch / Sucker Punch
- Pursuit
- Thunder Fang

With Pursuit, this set is pretty cool for eliminating Ghost-types for Rapid Spinners. Overheat for STAB, Crunch for hitting Rotom, Slowbro, and other Fire-types, Pursuit for trapping Ghost-, Dark-, and Psychic-types, and Thunder Fang to hit bulky waters. 180 Speed EVs allow you to outrun Adamant Toxicroak. Sucker Punch can be used to OHKO Dugtrio.

WisherWisherWish August 14th, 2009 2:27 PM

O.K,

I need the best moveset for my Osaku Meowth.

I don't want to evolve it, so make the moveset for a Meowth.

and I can't have any Egg moves.

Plus, what stats should I E.V train on?

Please P.M me the moveset.

Thanks!

P.S,

It's Jolly and at level 10.

Pokedra August 14th, 2009 3:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WisherWisherWish (Post 4986051)
O.K,

I need the best moveset for my Osaku Meowth.

I don't want to evolve it, so make the moveset for a Meowth.

and I can't have any Egg moves.

Plus, what stats should I E.V train on?

Please P.M me the moveset.

Thanks!

P.S,

It's Jolly and at level 10.

The Free Hits set would work good with that Meowth. It works as a decent lead as well =)

Persian @ Life Orb
Nature : Jolly
EV : 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Fake Out
- U-Turn
- Taunt
- Return / Bite

tim the pokemon geek August 14th, 2009 3:31 PM

Hey can anyone get me a moveset for breloom and a spinda

Pokedra August 14th, 2009 3:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tim the pokemon geek (Post 4986279)
Hey can anyone get me a moveset for breloom and a spinda

Breloom @ Poison Orb
Nature : Adamant
EV : 44 HP / 252 Atk / 212 Spe
-Spore
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Seed Bomb

^Sleep something, set up a Sub and start Focus-Punching.

Spinda sucks, I really don't think you should use it. The only set that would work in my opinion is TrickScarf.

Spinda @ Choice Scarf
Nature : Adamant
EV : 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
-Trick
-Hypnosis
-Sucker Punch
-Double-Edge

Sleep something, trick something and maybe attack. You only get 328 Speed with this though =(

Skip Shot August 14th, 2009 6:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokedra (Post 4986384)
Breloom @ Poison Orb
Nature : Adamant
EV : 44 HP / 252 Atk / 212 Spe
-Spore
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Seed Bomb

^Sleep something, set up a Sub and start Focus-Punching.

As an alternative to get better coverage with this set, run Stone Edge over Seed Bomb so Mence and Gengar don't switch in for free on this set.

FreakyLocz14 August 15th, 2009 7:25 AM

Hey I gave my Bronzong the PokeRus to help it's EV training but being the idiot I am I used it in the Battle Tower, left it out of the PC for too long and the PokeRus has worn off as evidenced by the smiley face icon instead of the purple PKRS box.

So now Bronzong won't get the double EV's right?

jigglyppuff8 August 15th, 2009 7:29 AM

The EV doubling effects of Pokerus NEVER wear off. It just loses the ability to spread it to other Pokemon is all.

FreakyLocz14 August 15th, 2009 8:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigglyppuff8 (Post 4989371)
The EV doubling effects of Pokerus NEVER wear off. It just loses the ability to spread it to other Pokemon is all.

Thanks *phew* that's a relief.

I do have a back-up Spinda in the PC saved for spreading the virus further so I'm not worried about that.

Edit:
How come when I was EV trainging my Manaphy I gave it 252 SpA and 252 Speed but on level up it gained +16 Speed but only like +4 SpA?

FreakyLocz14 August 15th, 2009 10:59 PM

Why is it better to run Timid natrure on Alakazam instead of Modest? With Modest he can achieve 405 Special Attack, which paired with Life Orb or Choice Specs is devastating.

With a 120 Base Speed stat I don't think many things are going to be outspeeding Zam save for Electrode and Jolteon which aren't very common anyway.

Pokedra August 16th, 2009 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 4992674)
Why is it better to run Timid natrure on Alakazam instead of Modest? With Modest he can achieve 405 Special Attack, which paired with Life Orb or Choice Specs is devastating.

With a 120 Base Speed stat I don't think many things are going to be outspeeding Zam save for Electrode and Jolteon which aren't very common anyway.

I would say it's crucial to run Timid. Simply because otherwise he can't outspeed +Spe Latias, Gengar and plus anything with a +Spe nature base 110 and Latias and Gengar can both smack him for a OHKO. Also he'll be slower then stuff like SD Ape, Specs Starmie and other Alakazam. It's really important for him to run Spe, 369 Special Attack + LO/Specs is still very scary though ;D

Here are some stats to help.

Quote:

| Latias | Nature | Timid | 74.8 |
| Latias | Nature | Modest | 19.6 |
Basically all Latias run Timid.

Quote:

| Gengar | Nature | Timid | 61.5 |
| Gengar | Nature | Modest | 18.8 |
| Gengar | Nature | Hasty | 12.8 |
The majority of Gengar run a +Spe nature.

Quote:

| Alakazam | Nature | Timid | 70.8 |
| Alakazam | Nature | Modest | 20.3 |
Basically all Alakazam run Timid.

So it comes down to a clash between these you usually want to go first so you can OHKO Latias/Gengar before they OHKO you.

wolf August 16th, 2009 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 4992674)
Why is it better to run Timid natrure on Alakazam instead of Modest? With Modest he can achieve 405 Special Attack, which paired with Life Orb or Choice Specs is devastating.

With a 120 Base Speed stat I don't think many things are going to be outspeeding Zam save for Electrode and Jolteon which aren't very common anyway.

You outrun:
  • Timid Mismagius
  • Jolly Scarf Machamp
  • Jolly Scarf Ursaring
  • Naive Infernape (with max Speed EVs)
  • Adamant Swellow
  • Adamant Weavile
  • Timid Espeon
  • Timid Tauros
  • Timid Gengar
  • Timid Latias
  • Timid Purugly
  • Adamant Scarf Breloom
  • Adamant Scarf Metagross
  • Adamant Aerodactyl
  • Adamant/Modest Crobat
  • Modest Jolteon
  • Timid Ambipom
  • Naive/Timid Azelf
  • Timid Raikou
  • Timid Starmie

Of course, not all of them are common, but the bolded ones are.

Edit: Mean old Pokedra.

FinalPaladin August 16th, 2009 2:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolFLARE (Post 4992865)
You outrun:
  • Timid Mismagius
  • Jolly Scarf Machamp
  • Jolly Scarf Ursaring
  • Naive Infernape (with max Speed EVs)
  • Adamant Swellow
  • Adamant Weavile
  • Timid Espeon
  • Timid Tauros
  • Timid Gengar
  • Timid Latias
  • Timid Purugly
  • Adamant Scarf Breloom
  • Adamant Scarf Metagross
  • Adamant Aerodactyl
  • Adamant/Modest Crobat
  • Modest Jolteon
  • Timid Ambipom
  • Naive/Timid Azelf
  • Timid Raikou
  • Timid Starmie
Of course, not all of them are common, but the bolded ones are.

Edit: Mean old Pokedra.

you do know that machamp and ursaring have base 55 speed, dont you. most of them arnt threats any way.is focus sash a good item for ZAM

Dark Azelf August 16th, 2009 2:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 4993197)
you do know that machamp and ursaring have base 55 speed, dont you. most of them arnt threats any way.is focus sash a good item for ZAM

Umm notice he said scarfed. Also yes they are all threats within their own rights.


No focus sash is an awful item on zam, infact on anything bar leads. SR, SS etc lol at it.

Pirate Dave August 16th, 2009 8:06 AM

I'm trying to make an OU stall team because its something I've never done, this is how far I've got at the moment:

• Swampert
(Stealth Rock…)
• Skarmory
(Brave Bird, Roost, Spikes, Whirlwind)
• Forretress
(Toxic Spikes, Rapid Spin, Explosion…)
• Porygon2
(Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Thunderwave, Recover)

I really don't know where to go from here, an Infernape with Grass Knot kills the entire team at the moment, which is an issue. I suppose I could shove a Blissey in there but people love to so smugly say, 'Blissey is set up fodder' so to avoid that chant as much as anything else shes not there.

To counter Infernape I thought of maybe a Gengar, but then that isn't very stally is it. Essentially its me slipping back into my all-sweeper mindset.

What do you think my other two Pokémon should be? What do you think of the movesets? What would you add to the incomplete movesets? Thanks for any and all help. :)

Aurafire August 16th, 2009 8:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate Dave (Post 4994104)
I'm trying to make an OU stall team because its something I've never done, this is how far I've got at the moment:

• Swampert
(Stealth Rock…)
• Skarmory
(Brave Bird, Roost, Spikes, Whirlwind)
• Forretress
(Toxic Spikes, Rapid Spin, Explosion…)
• Porygon2
(Thunderbolt, Ice Beam, Thunderwave, Recover)

I really don't know where to go from here, an Infernape with Grass Knot kills the entire team at the moment, which is an issue. I suppose I could shove a Blissey in there but people love to so smugly say, 'Blissey is set up fodder' so to avoid that chant as much as anything else shes not there.

To counter Infernape I thought of maybe a Gengar, but then that isn't very stally is it. Essentially its me slipping back into my all-sweeper mindset.

What do you think my other two Pokémon should be? What do you think of the movesets? What would you add to the incomplete movesets? Thanks for any and all help. :)

You need a spin blocker and wish support. One of the Rotom Formes, Spiritomb or Mismagius could work here. Mismagius can also help pseudo-haze with Perish Song. There are plenty of options for wish support, but you should pick something to help with your Infernape weak. Latias usually walls Infernape cold, resisting Close Combat, any fire attack and Grass Knot. Vaporeon can usually deal with Infernape as well. Then pick something for spin blocking and you're good to go ;D

Dark Azelf August 16th, 2009 9:01 AM

Your team also loses to Lucario/Heracross and Skarm and Forry on the same team is beyond pointless.

Id lose skarm and use an actually good forry set, the standard i kinda eh. That and you dont blow things up on stall EVER.

[email protected]
252 HP / 252 S.DEF / 6 DEF
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Toxic Spikes / Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
- Payback

Increses its sp.def durability by 42% and you only lose 19% physical durability. This helps you actually switch in. Payback lets you win vs CM sub/refresh latias (2hko) 1 vs 1 and nails spin blockers.


As for ape, sp.def rest talk Gyarados, Tenta etc they all work as for Lucario you have your standard fighting resist (Gyarados, Gliscor, Nidoqueen etc) i mean its really up to you on what you use.

Toxic >> T-Wave on P2, T-Wave conflicts with T-Spikes.

Aura mentioned everything else.

Rocker32703 August 16th, 2009 9:25 PM

I'd like some suggestions for a Single Battle team I'm in the middle of finishing up... I'm not sure what to do for some of my moves and other things.

Luxray (Hasty nature)
Crunch
Iron Tail
Charge
Thunder Fang <----I have him pretty much set up, no need to fix him for now.

Crobat (Bashful nature)
Air Slash
Confuse Ray
Poison Fang
Dark Pulse <------- I want to change Poison fang. Any good ideas?

Charizard (Naive nature)
Dragon Claw
Aerial Ace
Heat Wave
Brick Break <----I dunno, should he be changed at all?

Rhyperior (Jolly nature)
Mega Horn
Hammer Arm
Stone Edge
Earthquake <----It seems solid, but it doesn't feel right. Like I'm doing something stupid that I'm forgetting. xD

Salamence (Hasty nature)
Focus Energy
Protect
Earthquake
Dragon Claw <---I'm pretty sure he's flawed. Is it worth having Protect with him?

Gyrados (Docile nature)
Thunder Wave
Dragon Dance
Ice Fang
Aqua Tail <----- This one I'm ok with, but I'm afraid he would die quickly in a fight.

Any ideas how I should change these Pokemon? Or if they even need changing?

Pokedra August 16th, 2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocker32703 (Post 4997478)
I'd like some suggestions for a Single Battle team I'm in the middle of finishing up... I'm not sure what to do for some of my moves and other things.

Luxray (Adamant nature)
Item : Choice Band
EV : 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spe

- Crunch
- Ice Fang
- Return
- Spark

Give this thing a CB and this moveset, decent coverage and power. Spark >>> TFang for the 30% paralysis.

Crobat (Jolly nature)
Item : Leftovers
EV : 104 HP / 152 Atk / 252 Spe
- Brave Bird
- Taunt
- Roost
- U-Turn


Make your Crobat into this moveset and use this as a lead.

Charizard (Timid nature)
Item : Choice Specs
EV : 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

- Overheat
- HP Grass
- Dragon Pulse
- Focus Blast

Mixed Zard sucks, try the Specs set. Belly Drum rarely work anymore with SR everywhere.

Rhyperior (Jolly nature)
Item : Life Orb
EV : 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

- Rock Polish
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Megahorn / Aqua Tail


This set is great for cleaning up late-game.

Salamence (Rash nature)
Item : Life Orb
EV : 80 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 176 Spe

- Draco Meteor
- Brick Break
- Fire Blast
- Roost

The set packs more power then your original set which was pretty bad, sorry :(

Gyrados (Adamant nature)
Item : Life Orb
EV : 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Ice Fang
Aqua Tail <----- This one I'm ok with, but I'm afraid he would die quickly in a fight.

EQ to hit Electric types. Otherwise good.
Any ideas how I should change these Pokemon? Or if they even need changing?

I fixed up some of your movesets and if you could give them those items/EV's it would be great.

First of all I'd replace Charizard with ScarfTran to help you take care of some threats and it really is more helpful.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Nature : Naive
EV ; 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
- Explosion
- HP Ice / Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power

Then replace Luxray with something that packs a punch without setting up. Maybe like CBTar.

Salvation August 17th, 2009 9:04 AM

I need a set for a stall Abomasnow please (:

Im currently working on a team and sort of don't know how Abomasnow works ... Yes I know, I'm a sad cookie D=

wolf August 17th, 2009 12:30 PM

[jq]I need a set for a stall Abomasnow please (:

Im currently working on a team and sort of don't know how Abomasnow works ... Yes I know, I'm a sad cookie D=[/jq]
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/97/Spr_4p_460_m.png@ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Warning
Nature: Timid
EVs: 16 Atk / 252 SpA / 240 Spe
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Blizzard
- Focus Punch / Protect / Grass Knot

Focus Punch is to 2HKOs Blissey and Heatran, and has a 66% chance of OHKOing Tyranitar with SR down. Speed EVs allow you to outrun (no Speed EVs / neutral Speed Nature) base 100s like Celebi. Protect can be used for stalling, and you can also move all the Speed EVs to Special Defense, and change Abomasnow's Nature to Calm/Sassy. Grass Knot can also be used for bulky waters. I suggest having something like Magnezone or Rotom-H to get rid of Steels.

Rocker32703 August 17th, 2009 1:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokedra (Post 4997680)
I fixed up some of your movesets and if you could give them those items/EV's it would be great.

First of all I'd replace Charizard with ScarfTran to help you take care of some threats and it really is more helpful.

Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Nature : Naive
EV ; 4 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Spe
- Explosion
- HP Ice / Dragon Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power

Then replace Luxray with something that packs a punch without setting up. Maybe like CBTar.

Thanks for the ideas. (Now how the heck am I supposed to get all these items? xD) I'll try them out.

Mages4ever August 17th, 2009 1:10 PM

Well, you'll have to Battle Frontier a lot.
Or you could Battle Tower and steal their items, or trade for them from other players.

wolf August 17th, 2009 1:14 PM

[jq]Thanks for the ideas. (Now how the heck am I supposed to get all these items? xD) I'll try them out.[/jq]
You can get Life Orb at Stark Mountain (maybe at Battle Frontier too), and Leftovers from Munchlax. And, like Mages4ever said, you can get the Choice items at Battle Frontier iirc. You can also clone the items too when you only have 1 of each.

fear18 August 17th, 2009 3:51 PM

need help, i have this list of pokemon and their supposed to be purpose though im not sure whose who i'm going to use,can i ask for advice???others also still don't have movesets cause i dont have a clue to what im going to use effectively

im also conerned about the item clause (can only use one item)since i only play at R/S tourny and there's barely good items on the game so i dont know who i'm going to attach leftovers with and nid advice on items

dusclops (staller with pain split and will o wisp)
gengar (special sweeper)
swampert (mix or physical??? and leftovers or chesto???)
skarmory (spiker and leftovers???)
aerodactyl (sweeper with rock slide,double edge,earthquake and ???)(choice band???)
Ludicolo (staller with raind dance, Toxic, Leech seed,???, leftovers??)
breloom (sweeper? with focus punch spore and substitute?)
manectric or jolteon (their sweepers with thunder wave???)

and last a good cleric (milktank, illumise or vileplume???)

thanks in advance!

wolf August 17th, 2009 4:12 PM

[jq]need help, i have this list of pokemon and their supposed to be purpose though im not sure whose who i'm going to use,can i ask for advice???others also still don't have movesets cause i dont have a clue to what im going to use effectively

im also conerned about the item clause (can only use one item)since i only play at R/S tourny and there's barely good items on the game so i dont know who i'm going to attach leftovers with and nid advice on items

dusclops (staller with pain split and will o wisp)
gengar (special sweeper)
swampert (mix or physical??? and leftovers or chesto???)
skarmory (spiker and leftovers???)
aerodactyl (sweeper with rock slide,double edge,earthquake and ???)(choice band???)
Ludicolo (staller with raind dance, Toxic, Leech seed,???, leftovers??)
breloom (sweeper? with focus punch spore and substitute?)
manectric or jolteon (their sweepers with thunder wave???)

and last a good cleric (milktank, illumise or vileplume???)

thanks in advance![/jq]
This would be helpful for you, it should have majority of those sets you wanted. Really, no one ever uses the Item Clause except Nintendo tournaments. But if you are forced to use it, you can always resort to berries (sadly there are no type resisting berries in R/S), or stuff like Spell Tag, Miracle Seed, etc.

fear18 August 17th, 2009 4:33 PM

thanks for the info i've already browsed to smogon but i still could'nt pick a good lineup

also is 255 the really max value per stat? i see pokemons exceed that limit

Aurafire August 17th, 2009 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fear18 (Post 5000728)
thanks for the info i've already browsed to smogon but i still could'nt pick a good lineup

also is 255 the really max value per stat? i see pokemons exceed that limit

255 is the maximum amount of EVs a pokemon can have in a single stat, but the stat level itself is based on the pokemon's base stats as well as its EV/IV investment.

fear18 August 17th, 2009 4:50 PM

ah so basically there are no max value for stats thanks for the info... still waiting replies on what can i do with thise pokemon

Mages4ever August 17th, 2009 4:55 PM

There is a Max Value.
Base Stats + Nature (+10% and -10% to one stat) + EVs (+63 maximum to a stat)+ IVs (+31 maximum to a stat) = Maximum Stat.

Espeon Master August 17th, 2009 5:02 PM

Could I get some suggestions for a spread for a Blastoise?

fear18 August 17th, 2009 5:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mages4ever (Post 5000792)
There is a Max Value.
Base Stats + Nature (+10% and -10% to one stat) + EVs (+63 maximum to a stat)+ IVs (+31 maximum to a stat) = Maximum Stat.

10% per level or it is for level 100?

Mages4ever August 17th, 2009 5:29 PM

Okay.
http://www.psypokes.com/lab/natures.php

Basically, it will make one stat 10% higher overall, but another one 10% lower.

fear18 August 17th, 2009 5:31 PM

ah i see thanks for that guess ive got a lot to learn... any advice on which pokemon i'm going to use base on my list

Kleinchen August 17th, 2009 5:42 PM

I need some help completing my team, I have one open space and I'm not sure what to fill it with... I've toyed with a few ideas but I can't seem to find anything that fits well. Anyone have any suggestions as to what I can throw in? If anyone sees a glaring weakness with my team or something and can suggest something to counter said weakness, that would be great. I'm thinking maybe something that can set up SR or Spikes or something, but... No epiphanies yet. :C
This is an UU team, so please keep your suggestions to UU, or NU if you can really justify it.(yes I know Gallade is BL but the people I mainly play with are ok with BL in UU) My team is as follows:

[email protected] Scarf, Mild (144 Atk, 252 SpA, 112 Spe): Eruption, Focus Punch, Overheat, Earthquake

[email protected] Orb, Adamant (4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spe): Swords Dance, Close Combat, Stone Edge, Night Slash

[email protected], Impish (252 HP, 136 Def, 120 SpD): Curse, Milk Drink, Body Slam, Heal Bell

[email protected], Calm (252 HP, 216 SpD, 40 Spe): Mean Look, Perish Song, Protect, Taunt

[email protected], Impish (252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Spe): Swords Dance, Baton Pass, Wish, Leaf Blade

Pokedra August 18th, 2009 2:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kleinchen (Post 5000914)
I need some help completing my team, I have one open space and I'm not sure what to fill it with... I've toyed with a few ideas but I can't seem to find anything that fits well. Anyone have any suggestions as to what I can throw in? If anyone sees a glaring weakness with my team or something and can suggest something to counter said weakness, that would be great. I'm thinking maybe something that can set up SR or Spikes or something, but... No epiphanies yet. :C
This is an UU team, so please keep your suggestions to UU, or NU if you can really justify it.(yes I know Gallade is BL but the people I mainly play with are ok with BL in UU) My team is as follows:

[email protected] Scarf, Mild (144 Atk, 252 SpA, 112 Spe): Eruption, Focus Punch, Overheat, Earthquake

[email protected] Orb, Adamant (4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spe): Swords Dance, Close Combat, Stone Edge, Night Slash

[email protected], Impish (252 HP, 136 Def, 120 SpD): Curse, Milk Drink, Body Slam, Heal Bell

[email protected], Calm (252 HP, 216 SpD, 40 Spe): Mean Look, Perish Song, Protect, Taunt

[email protected], Impish (252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Spe): Swords Dance, Baton Pass, Wish, Leaf Blade

Gallade is banned from UU since he's BL so you have to remove him. You could probably switch Absol in since he tries to do the same thing ;)

Personally I'd make Mismagius into the SubCM set. Great for a late-game sweeper.

Mismagius @ Leftovers
Nature : Timid
EV : 48 HP / 208 SpA / 252 Spe
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

Just some thoughts =)

Thund2rfudge August 18th, 2009 2:26 AM

Battle Partner for Leafeon
 
I'm looking for a good Pokemon to go with my Leafeon in a double battle.

Currently:
Leafeon @ Life Orb
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 8 Defense
Leaf Guard
Gentle
Giga Drain, X-Scissor, Sword Dance, Synthesis

Giga Drain will soon be replaced by Leaf Blade, and I might replace Synthesis with something later on.

This is my first post, hope I didn't break any rules :S

Anyway, any help is appreciated, thanks.

Chaostorm August 18th, 2009 2:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thund2rfudge (Post 5002113)
I'm looking for a good Pokemon to go with my Leafeon in a double battle.

Currently:
Leafeon @ Life Orb
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 Defense
Leaf Guard
Jolly
Leaf Blade, X-Scissor, Sword Dance, Synthesis

Giga Drain will soon be replaced by Leaf Blade, and I might replace Synthesis with something later on.

This is my first post, hope I didn't break any rules :S

Anyway, any help is appreciated, thanks.

Im not Expert on Leafeon , but since it looks like a Physical Sweeper with the base 110 Atk and base 95 Spe... , I might help you, Jolly Over Gentle to have that nice 317 Speed at Lv.100 ( assuming with the right IVs ) , Leaf Blade Over Giga Drain to gain the benefit of Swords Dance , I dunno about Synthesis , but it may be good to restore HP lost through Life Orb , afterall , Leafeon got a nice base 130 Def which means it isnt Fragile on the Physical side . maybe someone else would help you ...

Thund2rfudge August 18th, 2009 4:33 AM

Thanks for your help =]
I've replaced Giga Drain with Leaf Blade now, so that's fixed... I'm still wondering whether to keep or replace Synthesis with another attack (or Sunny Day?).

Remember I'm mainly looking for a Doubles partner for Leafeon. Leafeon is going to do 90% of the attacking, I just need something take down those Fire and Flying types, and/or support and protect Leafeon. An auto-Sunny Day-er would be a nice bonus, but I doubt all that would come in one Pokemon.

Lady Gaga August 18th, 2009 8:06 AM

i have a question. is there any pokemon like curselax, aside form curselax? cuz i really liek him, and it would be fun to see how a team of pokemon just like him would do

also, stuff like the defensive celebi

FreakyLocz14 August 18th, 2009 9:20 AM

Oh where can I find another Life Orb in Platinum I already have the one from Stark Mountain

Azonic August 18th, 2009 9:50 AM

There's one at the entrance of Stark Mountain. Also, walk a little way down from the entrance, you'll see a seemingly inaccessable Item Ball. Go back towards Route 227 using the stairs, then go back up on the very left of the screen using your bike. You'll be able to access the Item Ball, which is the second life orb.

Kleinchen August 18th, 2009 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokedra (Post 5002061)
Gallade is banned from UU since he's BL so you have to remove him. You could probably switch Absol in since he tries to do the same thing ;)

Personally I'd make Mismagius into the SubCM set. Great for a late-game sweeper.

Mismagius @ Leftovers
Nature : Timid
EV : 48 HP / 208 SpA / 252 Spe
- Substitute
- Calm Mind
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]

Just some thoughts =)

Yes, I am aware of that, and actually, Absol is my first choice in a replacement for him for when I battle strictly UU. xD; But as I said before, the people I mostly battle with all tend to have pretty mixed teams themselves anyways so they don't mind that I have a BL on my UU team.

I was considering a Mismagius like the one you've suggested before, but I'm really enjoying the set I have now so I don't think I'm going to change it. Thanks though. n.n



Still looking for something to fill that empty spot on my team... Any suggestions? :C I'm thinking something that can deal some decent damage because between my Leafeon, Miltank, and even my Mismagius I think I'm good as far as stalling/walling goes, but with just two main attackers, Gallade and Typhlosion, I need something else that can hold its own in battle.

luke August 18th, 2009 10:42 AM

If you have a BL Pokemon on your team, then its not UU. It's that simple.

Kleinchen August 18th, 2009 10:56 AM

Yes, I understand that my team is not strictly UU, but it is like that because the people I usually battle against are just my friends at school and stuff, who all have mixed teams themselves ranging from Uber to NU. I just prefer to use UU because most of my favorite Pokemon are UU, and just so happen to have a BL on my team because that BL also happens to be a Pokemon I like. But as I said before, I do have a replacement for my Gallade for when I DO battle strictly UU. So I don't see why this is an issue.

And while this tier discussion is all well and good and all, it isn't helping me with the problem I came here hoping to get help with. :C

Nudge August 18th, 2009 3:20 PM

Ok every 2weeks or so me and my m8s get together and have a lvl 50 mini tournament between us and i was thinkin of using some pokes that took my fancy when i was going through my PC boxes last night and I'll probably reduce their Ev's and train them

I've chosen to use:
Aron-Quiet Nature-lvl30
Skorupi-Impish nature-lvl 36
Grumpig-Serious Nature-lvl 41
Mothim-Naughty Nature-lvl 44
Drifblim-Hasty Nature-lvl 46
Froslass-Naive Nature-lvl 46

Does any1 have any suggestions as to what i should EV train, or if i should at all
And also what movesets i should use
Thanx :]

FreakyLocz14 August 19th, 2009 10:03 AM

For a lead Bronzong, should it run Hypnosis or Explosion?

Bronzong, Brave nature
4 HP/8 Atk/124 Def/124 SpD
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Gyro Ball
-Hypnosis / Explosion?

Help me see what it can do with either move.

wolf August 19th, 2009 10:16 AM

@ Kleinchen: I'm not good at suggesting Pokemon for a team, so I'll pass. :<

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllTimeLow1 (Post 5004970)
Ok every 2weeks or so me and my m8s get together and have a lvl 50 mini tournament between us and i was thinkin of using some pokes that took my fancy when i was going through my PC boxes last night and I'll probably reduce their Ev's and train them

I've chosen to use:
Aron-Quiet Nature-lvl30
Skorupi-Impish nature-lvl 36
Grumpig-Serious Nature-lvl 41
Mothim-Naughty Nature-lvl 44
Drifblim-Hasty Nature-lvl 46
Froslass-Naive Nature-lvl 46

Does any1 have any suggestions as to what i should EV train, or if i should at all
And also what movesets i should use
Thanx :]

Look here (click). Although I suggest not using Aron, since Quiet nature raises SpA, which it NEVER uses. Grumpig's nature isn't that great either, Serious is a neutral nature. The rest of the natures seem nice.
Quote:

Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5007886)
For a lead Bronzong, should it run Hypnosis or Explosion?

Bronzong, Brave nature
4 HP/8 Atk/124 Def/124 SpD
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Gyro Ball
-Hypnosis / Explosion?

Help me see what it can do with either move.

Just use the standard EV spread: 252 HP / 84 Atk / 80 Def / 92 SpD with Sassy nature. Now onto the moveset, it depends on what you intend on using Bronzong for. Hypnosis and Explosion are both good moves for Bronzong. I usually prefer Hypnosis.

Nudge August 19th, 2009 2:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wolFLARE (Post 5007963)
Look here (click). Although I suggest not using Aron, since Quiet nature raises SpA, which it NEVER uses. Grumpig's nature isn't that great either, Serious is a neutral nature. The rest of the natures seem nice.

Ok thanx for that
I'll probably substitute my Aron for my Leafeon or possibly a Smeargle lol
But thanx again

HyPeRsHoCk August 19th, 2009 6:04 PM

So I have a team so far that consists of an offenseive Zapdos, and a support Articuno...any advice on what other types/roles of pokemon I should have?

Aurafire August 19th, 2009 6:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HyPeRsHoCk (Post 5010127)
So I have a team so far that consists of an offenseive Zapdos, and a support Articuno...any advice on what other types/roles of pokemon I should have?

It's hard to build a team based off of two pokemon =(

If you really want to use support Articuno, you must have a rapid spinner. Otherwise it dies to Stealth Rock. Either way, it's usually outclassed in OU battles.

Espeon Master August 20th, 2009 6:46 AM

Looking for a spread for a Blastoise. I'm thinking a rapid spinner would be good, but I'm not sure.

Recontra1234 August 20th, 2009 8:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Espeon Master (Post 5011872)
Looking for a spread for a Blastoise. I'm thinking a rapid spinner would be good, but I'm not sure.

252Hp 252Def 6 Sp.Atk

Or

252HP 168Def 100Sp.Def

HyPeRsHoCk August 20th, 2009 9:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Aurafire (Post 5010327)
It's hard to build a team based off of two pokemon =(

If you really want to use support Articuno, you must have a rapid spinner. Otherwise it dies to Stealth Rock. Either way, it's usually outclassed in OU battles.

Doh! What if I added Tyranitar and Moltres? Would that help narrow it down?

FinalPaladin August 20th, 2009 9:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HyPeRsHoCk (Post 5012571)
Doh! What if I added Tyranitar and Moltres? Would that help narrow it down?

i would go with donphan as it doesnt take much from SR

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impish nature +def -sp.atk
252HP/252def/4atk
rapidspin
EQ
ice shard
roar/knock off/SR/stone edge

love this set as it can get rid of stealth rock doesnt take much damage from it and it can revenge kill garchomp mence flygon and dragonite.
im sure that you could put some evs in sp.def, but i will leave that tro someone else

you dont want moltres as then it takes 50% of its health just from SR, you dont want that as articuno also takes loads from SR

HyPeRsHoCk August 20th, 2009 9:53 AM

Ok. Should I keep Zapdos? And what other kinds of pokemon should I have? Would you know?


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