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i'm pretty new to competitive battling and i've always wanted to try i dont have much now only my Gengar but i am getting a breloom. this is what it has:
held item: toxic orb ability: poison heal moveset: Spore Leech Seed Substitute ??? I dont have a fourth move. any suggestions? |
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You could also go with Seed bomb > Leech seed for more Coverage...
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All right here is my team (in FireRed, have no cable)
Tyranitar @ not sure yet, looking for ideas 252 Atk, 252 Spd, Naughty Dragon Dance Rockslide Earthquake Brick Break Arcanine @ charcoal 252 SpA 252 Spd, Mild Flamethrower Earthquake Fire Blast Sunny Day Not sure on this poke or moveset :\ Jynx @ nevermeltice 252 SpA, 252 Spd, Mild Ice Beam Psychic Lovely Kiss ?? Electabuzz 252 SpA, 252 Spd, Hasty Ice Punch Thunderbolt Thunder wave --?? Not totally sure on my team yet, still looking for 2 more, maybe a poison/spiker and a wall like snorlax. |
Could I request a Mamoswine with the bulkiest ev spread possible, that can still OHKO salamence and Dragonite with ice shard?
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im surprised this hasen't been deleted yet but yea it was at least moved
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Could someone help me complete this Porygon2?
Item: Lum Berry Ability: Trace Nature: Modest Moveset: Thunderbolt Ice Beam Thunder Wave Recover EVs: HP 252/Def ?/SpD ? I know it's better to invest more EVs in Def, but I would still like it to stand up to SpA users fairly well. |
Is Venemoth viable against an OU environment?
If so,try your best to give me a moveset. Something unconventional please.No cookie cutter Smogon sets ^-^ |
Venomoth is viable in the lower tiers like NU and UU but in OU its gets fainted too easily. The threats there are simply too fast and strong for him plus he can't switch into much due to his fraility :(
However if you wanted the best set for OU go with the Specs set. [email protected] Choice Specs Nature : Timid(-Atk,+Spe) Ability : Tinted Lens EV : 4HP/ 252 SpAtk/ 252 Spe -Sludge Bomb -Bug Buzz -Psychic -HP Ice |
Can CB scizor ohko standard DD mence after stealth rock damage?
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hi, I am fairly new to the more competitive side of this game and had a question and did not feel it warranted a thread of its own.
If you have a team that is being rated, and a suggestion is made to place a particular TM move on a member of that team that is already assigned to another Pokemon. Is the only way to feasibly continue working on this team to completely replay the game as it appears that TM's are one use items? I ask this because i am going through plat. version and acquireing a number of these TM moves, but am afriad to use them on any of my pokemon. Becasue, if i need them for a team later on when i have finished playing through the game, i would have to replay the entire game again. Is this really how this system works? It just seems like alot of work to tweak your teams if you need TM moves that are already in use. replaying the game 5-10 times to get the setup you want through play testing the team seems overly combursome. Just looking for a little clarification or confirmation on this. Thank in advance |
Hola. I need help with figuring out an EV spread for the battle frontier, but would like to transfer these pokemon to competitive battling as well (soon as my wifi works anyways). Unfortunately, I'm limited to TMs that are buyable, because I can't trade for any (for now...).
So far, my team goes like this: Infernape Nature: Careful (+SpD, -SpA) Ability: Blaze -Close Combat -Flare Blitz -Stone Edge -U-turn Kadabra Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk) Ability: Synchronize -Shadow Ball -Recover -Psychic -Hidden Power: Fire Floatzel Nature: Gentle (+SpD, -Def) Ability: Swift Swim -Ice Fang -Waterfall -Crunch -Brick Break |
You can get TM's traded to you by other people, and, some Tm's are available to purchase at the Dept. store, and at the battle tower.
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Am I correct in hearing that there's a more up-to-date source for standard movesets than smogon's strategydex?
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After doing a good amount of research i did not realize the vast amount of competitive play was done on simulators like shoddy battle. The fact that such a program exists, eliminates the concerns i had over tm's and greatly encourages getting into competitive play. I apologize for not doing the research completely first. Thanks for the input.
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Gofre - It's called the Smogon Workshop in the forums.
Bashoomba - Hey, it was a perfectly viable question. There's no need to worry. It's also worth mentioning, that with any TM Move, it can be passed on to a baby by the father when breeding. This works well for once-only TMs such as Grass Knot and Stealth Rock; keep in mind not every first-stage pokemon can learn the move you require, like Bagon and Roost. |
Does STAB take effect before or after held items effects? How does that work with held items?
I have a Metagross with meteor mash (steel) so it should get STAB, right? Then it's holding an iron-plate. What gets boosted first? His base steel attack power, then STAB adds 50% of that, or vise versa? |
Is HP Fighting good for a Bold Zapdos?
I wasn't SRing for a Zapdos, but got lucky with the Bold nature and found out that it also has HP Fighting 63 recently. |
I have an Incomplete team, the real good pokemon I have so far is weavile,my Physical Sweeper!
I need some pointers on what good pokemon I could use for the other positions. Phy.wall Sp.Sweeper Sp.wall Annoyer Baton passer Please either pm me on help or reply to this message. |
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Ok thank you,Ill be sure to use smgon from now on.
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K so I just caught a Moltres with a Hasty Nature and the following IV's
HP:2 Attack:27 Defense:25 Sp.Attack:7 Sp.Def:30 Speed:30 Hidden Power [Bug]: 67 power Yes, I know the special attack leaves a lot to be desired, but with IV's like those letting it go to waste is just something I can't do. I'm thinking Specs for it's Sp.Attack, but I need a fourth move. This is what I got: [email protected] Specs**Charizard Nature: Hasty Ability: Pressure Ev's: 252 Speed, 252 Sp. Attack, 4 HP ~Overheat ~Air Slash ~Hidden Power [Bug] (Assuming TTar has flawless Sp.Def and HP this thing is still a guarenteed 2HKO meaning I can catch it on the switch and finish it off.) ~??? |
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Unless you have saved already, I'd keep resetting :P BUT if you are adamant on using this, then you can use U-Turn to scout, Sleep Talk to absorb a Sleep status, or Flamethrower if you want to use it late-game without the SpA drop |
How do I get Spore on Smeargle? Everytime I try it learns the move used against it when it wakes up...
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It shouldn't be holding an Iron Plate in the first place though. There are much better items. |
This would be the section of the forum to put a Rate My Team thread right?
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Yes. However, it needs to be approved by a mod first, I believe.
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Do people think that scyther makes a good baton passer?
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Stealth Rock in play+No attack EVs: OHKO on both Life Orb+ No attack EVs: OHKO on both No item, No SR and 152 attack EVs: OHKO on salamence Life Orb+Stealth Rock+No attack EVs= OHKO on salamence after intimidate Those are pretty much all the garenteed KOs I could find, although dragonite risks being KO'd from ice shard with 152 EVs and above. |
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what does Revenge Killer mean? and what does role play? |
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Another common revenge killing tactic is the use of Pursuit on previously weakened Pokemon, so if they choose the switch out, they are hurt...BADLY. |
i ve traind a masquirain
moveset ice beam stun spore water pulse bug buzz evs spatk 190 speed 160 def 160 is it good? can it be better? |
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First of all, you want to change the EV spread so that you have max EVs in Sp. Atk and Speed. Second of all, Masquerain works best as a Life Orb or Choice Specs/Scarf Sweeper, so no moves like Stun Spore Thirdly, Breed it so you can get good moves like Hydro Pump and use a different move set like this: - Hydro Pump [Powerful, takes out fires] - Ice Beam [Takes out dragons and flying etc.] - Bug Buzz [STAB move] - Shadow Ball/Air Slash [Filler move] That's just the set for the Choice Specs/Scarf. There are more sets which include Stun Spore and Baton Passing and such. Just Experiment. |
Why is Absol so bad?!! I went through all the trouble of training an Abol and it came out perfect. It can't take a hit. I was hoping for something better. I have to settle for Dragonite. Just wanted to vent and ask a truely simple question.
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Judging from what you'll replace it with, you're likely playing OU. There's a reason it's not in OU. Low speed and lower defenses. Also, there's not much that it resists. Also, "settling" for Dragonite? You're saying that as if you thought Absol would be better even though all of Dragonite's stats are higher than Absol's and there's the superior typing. Just stating my view on this. |
What set are you running? That can have a lot to do with it. SD/Night Slash/Superpower/Sucker Punch is pretty good.
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Could someone please help me out with a moveset for a Gastrodon. Thanks :)
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~ Recover ~ Toxic ~ Surf/Ice Beam ~ Stockpile/Counter That all depends on what sort of Gastrodon you're looking for. |
Awesome, thanks a lot! I'll give it a try. :)
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Is this a good move set for a Zapdos? I have a Zapdos with HP Fighting so yeah.
Zapdos @ Leftovers Bold/Pressure ~ Roost ~ T-Bolt ~ HP Fighting ~ Filler T-Bolt for STAB move. HP Fighting for the likes of Lucario, Tyranitar and Heatran Roost for healing Filler for I don't know what this move will be. |
Is there a way to alter the nature of the riolu you get from Riley?
B/c i keep getting the Sassy Nature |
You need to Soft Reset before you get the Egg from Riley. Besides, breeding your own eggs allows for much more control and potential with Egg moves, IVs, and all that.
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kk i need sum help. Im thinking about making a team based around a couple of sashers. Im debating which would be the best rapid spinner to keep their sashes in tact. Im either thinking of claydol or forretress. I like claydol because it has better defenses. My plan would be to tank hits spin away spike and eventually explode on anythingi cant handle. Forretress has a better attack stat so the explosion will do more damage and t-spikes. But it lacks in the sp. def department. any advice would be helpful
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I need a moveset for Ludicolo that doesn't include leech seed... Right now I have
Surf Blizzard Rain Dance Giga Drain/Grass Knot/Energy Ball Thank you :) |
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i really appreciate it. what do you think a good item to give forret would be?
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Ludicolo @ Life Orb / Damp Rock Ability: Swift Swim Nature: Modest EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe - Surf / Hydro Pump - Grass Knot / Energy Ball - Ice Beam - Rain Dance / Focus Punch You can go for Surf for late game sweeping, or Hydro Pump for normal sweeping mid game, w/e. Grass Knot 2HKOs Bulky Gyarados, and a ~60% chance of netting a OHKO on Suicune. Energy Ball is mainly for Vaporeon, which laughs at Grass Knot (she doesn't eat that much). Energy Ball also 2HKOs Bulky Gyara after Stealth Rock is factored. Ice Beam for dragons, Focus Punch is a nasty surprise for Blissey. LO is better>>Damp Rock as is ensures that Grass Knot 2HKOs Gyarados, but Damp Rock is decent. You can slap a Specs on the first set if you want, and give him 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 Spe EVs. I love this set: Ludicolo @ Life Orb Ability: Swift Swim Nature: Adamant EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe - Swords Dance - Waterfall - Seed Bomb - Ice Punch |
I came back for a bit to ask for advice on a Ninetales moveset. =D I can't play my DS, ish broken. D=
Alrighty so, I have decided to get Ninetales for my Platinum team for when I get the game for my birthday. And will be awhile till I am able to get my Ninetales anyway. But I want to know what people think of this moveset for it. I am going to name it Kyuubi. I am going to breed for mine. Ninetales (Kyuubi) w/??? Modest Nature -Energy Ball -Flamethrower/Fire Blast -Heat Wave/??? -Sunny Day/Will o' Whisp/Confuse Ray You should already guess why I decided to give it Energy Ball, so it can best its weaknesses Water and Rock. And also Ground types. This is the first in a long while that I decided to post something about Pokemon. For the rest of my team I decided on Honchkrow, Torterra (my starter), and Lapras. Not sure for the last two though. |
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Needs timid and 2 fire moves are very redundant. Use Hypnosis or its outclassed by Infernape. |
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what is UU, OU, BL, EV,IV and whatever else and what does it mean in battle?
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OU stands for Overused and indicates which Pokemon are typically the strongest and most often used. UU stands for Underused and typically describes most Pokemon not in OU or ubers due to their weakness. BL stands for Borderline and describes Pokemon too powerful to be used in UU, but not powerful enough to be a real threat in OU. EVs and IVs are factors that determine a Pokemon's stats. EVs, also known as Effort Values, are values gained whenever experience is. You can gain EVs in any of the 6 stats of HP, Attack, Defense, Sp. Attack, Sp. Defense, and Speed. The more EVs you have in a stat, the more powerful the stat will be. The kind and amount of EVs gained is entirely dependent on the Pokemon. Starly give 1 EV in speed when KOed, Machop give 1 in attack, Machamp give 3 in attack. You can have up to a maximum of 255 EVs in any stat and 510 total. The amount of stat points you gain in a stat is the amount of EVs in that stat divided by 4. For example: My Jigglypuff has 0 EVs in HP at lv. 100 and has 343 HP. If I give it 238 EVs in HP, that's 238/4 = 59 R2, so now its HP stat is 402. If it had 255, the maximum amount, that's 255/4 = 63 R3, so now its HP stat is 406. So that you don't waste EVs, you'll notice that 252 is used instead of 255 so there isn't that remainder of 3. IVs, also known as Individual Values, are fixed, unchanging values that also determine a Pokemon's strength. IVs are also calculated in each of the 6 stats and are determined the moment you encounter a Pokemon. IVs range on a scale from 0-31 and add one stat point for every IV much like EVs. For example: My lv. 100 Jigglypuff with a 0 IV in HP has 403. If it had a 31 IV instead, its HP would then be 434. These are important to keep in mind as they will maximize your Pokemon's performance. Do you need anything more explained? |
Actually Borderline (BL) means something is strong enough to be out of UU, just not used enough to be in OU.
Uber is the tier above OU and all Pokemon can be used there, besides the banned Arceus. |
Ubers: Ban list for OU
OU: Standard play BL: Ban list for UU UU: Underused pokemon |
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Can I have some help on my Diamond Team?
Empoleon @ ?: ? Surf Drill Peck Ice Beam Earthquake/Shadow Claw Machamp @ ?: Adamant [+Atk, -Sp. Atk] Ice Punch Thunder Punch Fire Punch Cross Chop Lucario @ ?: ? Dragon Pulse Aura Sphere Psychic Dark Pulse Okay, so this is what I have so far. I have a weakness to Ground here so I'm maybe wanting a Grass Pokemon, perhaps Roserade? Any suggestions are welcome. I'd also like some help on the other slots in my team that I need to fill. What types do I need? Which Pokemon? Thanks very much. ~WaterGod EDIT: I just realised I need a Psychic or Ghost. I might use Mr. Mime, he can learn a lot of cool moves: Mr. Mime @ ?: Modest [+Sp. Atk, -Atk] Psychic Grass Knot/Energy Ball Shadow Ball Thunder/Thunderbolt Alakazam has a way higher Special Attack, so possibly this instead: Alakazam @ ?: Modest [+Sp. Atk, -Atk] Psychic Grass Knot/Energy Ball Shadow Ball Shock Wave? However, if we're speaking in terms of Ground counters, because I need one, then surely a Gengar: Gengar @ ?: Modest [+Sp. Atl, -Atk] Energy Ball Shadow Ball Dark Pulse Thunder/Thunderbolt Personally, I;d rather use a Gengar than Staraptor. Sorry this is such a long post. |
I'm trying to EV train a Feebas/Milotic in Diamond before sending it to Platinum; EV training at the beginning is so difficult. Can anyone help me with the moves and EVs? I'm using a Bold Milotic with at least Surf, Ice Beam, and Recover, holding Leftovers, and 252 Defense EVs, but that's all I have now.
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148 HP / 252 Def / 108 SpA would be ideal IMO, as for the last move you should go either Sleep Talk or Hypnosis, if sleep talk then you might want 252 Sp.DEF instead as you can switch in as you anticipate sleep and then lol at things with your max def and still attack with Sleep Talk.
@Water God: Empoleon wants speacil attacks, not physical adn modest or calm nature(if modest then put agility on there) with leftoveres Machamp: if it has no guard then Dyamic Punch>Cross Chop Lucario: Psycic has lol worthy coverage pick something else, Alakazam and Gengar are about equal in my eyes, pick the one you like more/fits your team better(I say Gengar so you can lol at Earth Quake) they want timid natures and Gengar wants a wide lense if you choose thunder, Shadow Ball and Dark pulse are rudundant use just shadow ball You don't necicisarily need a grass type, grass knot on Emoleon should suffice |
Hi. I need an idea.
I'm designing a team for the Battle Frontier in Platinum...I can't decide. Here's my team so far. Heatran w/ Wise Glasses 252 Sp. Atk/252 Speed/6 HP Naive Flash Fire Flamethrower Flash Cannon Dragon Pulse Earth Power Scizor w/ Scope Lens 252 Atk/252 Speed/6 HP Adamant Technician Bullet Punch Iron Head X-Scissor Double Hit Vaporeon w/ ??? (no item ideas yet) 252 Sp. Atk/252 Speed/6 HP Modest Water Absorb Ice Beam Aqua Ring Shadow Ball Surf Shuckle w/ ??? 252 Sp. Def/252 Def/6 HP Impish Gluttony Stone Edge Toxic Power Trick Gyro Ball And then this last spot isn't taken yet. Any suggestions? |
Is there any Pokemon that can utilize Calm Mind + Baton Pass apart from Espeon?
It would be nice if they were in UU/NU as well. |
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Confused as far as EV Training goes
Been a longgg time since I've been on these boards. If there is a more useful topic that explains what I need help in, then I aplogize but I am kinda in a rush for work. Nonetheless, I recently bought Platinum and are enjoying it. I already completed the Poke League and now I am in preparation to train for my main team.
Magmortar Electivire Dragonite Lanturn Roserade (not sure about 6th) Anyway, I am just confused about the whole basic knowledge about EV Training. I am aware that whatever Pokemon you battle against, you gain an equal amount of EV depending on whom you battle. Now my question is, when should I start EV training? Any specific level? I plan on breeding all my Pokemon with the exception of Lanturn and training them as babies. In this scenario, when should I start EV training for them? Excuse me for this long explanation but this has troubled me for quite some time but I would really appreciate if anyone could help me out here. |
Questions regarding EV training belong in Strategies & Movesets.
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This sort of this is better suited to the simple Q+A thread.
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Hey whats going on with the new event coming about and all im getting pretty excited about possibly integrating a Rotom into my party. Im kinda curious to see what kinda rotom sets there are running around. If some1 can please post up some of the popular sets with the EV spreads
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I thought Serebii said Rotom can't be used there? :\
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Can somebody help my mixed wall umbreon?
Umbreon @ leftover Nature : Bold Ev : 252 hp / 136 def / 116 SpD Ability : Sychronize -Mean Look -Toxic -Baton Pass -Wish I'm not really sure about my ev's or my moves so can you guys please help me thx |
The moveset is a standard set, so nothing really needs to be changed there. Going Careful with 252HP/96sp.def/164 speed is acceptable (speed allows it to outpace certain threats, trap them, and pass with little trouble)
Umbreon lives much more on the special department, so pumping that is better. |
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Umbreon @ Leftovers Nature : Careful Ev : 252 HP/164 Def/96 SpD Ability : Synchronize -Payback -Toxic -Taunt/Protect -Wish Standard support Umberon with Speed EV's moved into defence because you wanted a mixed wall :) |
Sorry Hazzamon, this thread's only for competitive advice. In-game teams don't really belong here.
And WaterGod, you're better off running Timid on Mr. Mime, Alakazam and Gengar as they are fragile and really need to outspeed whatever they can. |
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Would it be possible to get a good moveset and some EV's for a Exploud and a Lanturn please? :) Thanks!
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Ok i just recently (in the past few months) started learning more about EV's and breeding, etc and i've been getting into competitive play
What i wanted to ask is i have a (incomplete) team that i wanted to ask whether it was good or not for competitive play. Also if anyone knows any pokemon/moves that would further completement my team. Any comments or suggestions are welcome :D Fortress (Defensive Wall) [Leftovers] 252 Ev HP 252 EV Def 6 EV Atk Moveset: Earthquake Stealth Rock Explosion Rapid Spin Fortress is pretty self-explanatory. I'm thinking of leading off with him and throwing up stealth rock first thing. Then depending on the pokemon I can either switch or try to do some damage with earthquake. I'll try to keep him alive though so that I can rapid spin and get rid of any stealth rock/spikes I get thrown on me. Explosion could be used when appropriate. Charizard (Special Sweeper) [Leftovers] 252 Ev SAtk 252 Ev Spd 6 Ev HP Moveset: Dragon Pulse Focus Blast Air Slash Flamethrower Charizard is also pretty self-explanatory. Basically just kill with Flamethrowers/Air Slash since they're both special moves and i get STAB bonuses from them. Dragon Pulse is to kill any dragon types and is just a pretty handy back up. And Focus Blast is to get rid of any pesky rock types since I'm 400% weak, and also for normal type tanks like Snorlax and Blissey. Scyther (Physical Sweeper) [Focus Sash] 252 Ev Atk 252 Ev Spd 6 Ev HP Moveset: Swords Dance Aerial Ace X-Scissor Substitue (I'm thinking of changing this one, got any suggestions?) Scyther is just a common physical sweeper. My original plan was to start off with substitue to prevent any status effects my opponet could throw at me first turn and to ensure I get atleast 1 swords dance. BUT, my line of thinking is starting to change so I'm thinking of replacing that move. Basically, just swords dance it up (have the sash to protect me and ensure i get atleast 1 SD) and then sweep through with aerial ace/ xscissor. Lapras (Special Sweeper) 252 EV HP 252 EV Satk 6 EV Speed Moveset: Ice Beam Surf Body Slam Confuse Ray Lapras is pretty cool. He's going to have over 450 HP so he can DEFIENTLY take a hit, and his defenses aren't lacking. Basically just confuse the enemy first turn and then judging by the type either kill with ice beam or surf. Body slam is just there for the paralyze when needed. Pretty straightforward. This is all I ave so far, like I said I'm pretty new to this so helpful suggestions and etc would be apprecriated. If you know any moves or pokemon or items or anything really that could help me please feel free to voice your opinion :D Thanks |
Here's a moveset I came up with:
Flame Orb/Toxic Orb Noctowl: Nature: Calm Ability: Insomnia Item: Flame Orb/Toxic Orb EVs: HP 252 SpD 252 Spe 6 Protect Psycho Shift Night Shade Reflect / Roost Strategy: Protect on the first turn and await the Orb to activate. Then use Psycho Shift to give the status problem to the opponent. Night Shade is there for basic damage. In the fourth slot, I recommend either Reflect or Roost. Reflect can be used to cripple physical attackers even further, while roost work better against special attackers. This set has a little problem against normal types, but just set up barrier and give them status problems before you switch out. Please tell me what you all think. |
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Calm, Volt Absorb Ability 40 HP / 136 SpA / 252 Sp.D / 80 Def Moveset: Surf Thunderbolt Ice Beam Thunder Wave Basically just rush in there with a T-wave and hope for a few parahax. Surf and Thunderbolt you get STAB bonuses from so you can sweep through lots of pokemon with just those two moves. Ice Beam can sweep through about the rest of them, the only pokemon that cant really be hit by lanturn with this moveset is shedinja. Cons: lanturn has poor speed For Exploud (physical sweeper) [Leftovers/Choice Specs] 252 Ev ATk 252 Ev Spd 6 Ev HP Moveset: Hyper Voice Shadow Ball Focus Punch Surf Basically you just sweep through with Hyper Voice since you get a STAB bonus from it. Exploud is actually a pretty powerful pokemon. Steel can be countered with Focus Punch, Rocks can be beat with surf (or some type of physical water move) and shadow ball can take on ghosts. Pretty standard normal type sweeper Quote:
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Now what I must ask here is, how do I go about of training my newly hatched Pokemon since at lv.1 they pose hardly no threat to EV distributors I need to fight? Can I use exp. share and then defeat whatever Pokemon I need with someone stronger, then my lv 1 Pokemon will gain the EV? |
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What are the leading pokemons I need to wacth out for
in OU? To the surfing Pikadude: Yep, Exp.share will get your pokemon Exp.points. But what I usually do is to give my Lv.1 pokemon a item that boosts the EV amount that it gets, & carry a LOT of pokedolls in case I don't run into the pokemon that gives the EVs I want. When I do run into the pokemon that gives the EVs I want, I swicth my Lv.1 to a stronger pokemon that can KO the wild pokemon. This reduce the time I have to send EV training. |
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You seriously do not know how much you guys have helped me, I appreciate that a lot. I do not mean to persist here, but just to get things straight, this is what I would do in preparation for EV Training:
1. I have my LV. 1 Pokemon as my "go-to" guy to battle. 2. Equip LV. 1 Pokemon with Macho Brace to double EVs if I'm correct. 3. Switch LV. 1 Pokemon with a stronger one to KO the EV Pokemon. Correct? I'm too broke to buy stat boosters so I will just do without them. |
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To Surfing Pikachu (Not intending to put the caps in right places for a reason >_>)
That is pretty much what you have to do. However, I strongly prefer the use of the Power Bracer/band/anklet/whatever else there is much more. They give 4 extra EVs to a certain stat, depending on what the power item is designed to give. Also, if you ever get the Pokerus, then you're in a lot of luck since it doubles the EVs you acquire. Let's take a look: You fight a Gyarados, which gives 2 attack EVs. If you have the Power Bracer attached as well (gives +4 attack EVs per battle), and you destroy said Gyarados, you're getting 2+4 = 6 x 2 = 12 EVs per fight...that's a lot when considering the slow rate of EV training. Note: If this is for R/S/E by chance, then disregard what I've said above. |
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Just to make sure, Macho Brace doubles EV corrects? So I plan to EV train my Magby for Special Attack. I plan to go to the Resort Area as there is a pool which gives Golducks who then give 2 EV's for Special Attack. So with Macho Brace I will be getting 4 EV's per battle, giving me one full stat for Magby's Special Attack in the long run. So 252 EV's per max stat...4 EV's per battle...252/4=63 Golducks I have to defeat for Magby's Sp. Attack to be maxed? Was my calculations right? |
Awesome, thanks Ethan! Will start training for those now.
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The Exploud spread he gave is better with Overheat than Focus Punch for steels, and every single move there is a SPECIAL move so 252 atk evs do nothing. Put them in Special attack. You shouldn't be switching Noctowl in to something that could 2HKO it so protect really isn't necessary. Night Shade, however, is because not having it makes him insanely taunt weak and not able to fulfill his special wall role. Replace Protect with Reflect or Whirlwind to make him better. |
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Well, your calculations are half-right. Beating 63 Golducks (who give 2 EVs in sp. atk) while holding the Macho Brace and having Pokerus would actually give you 504 EVs in sp. atk, way beyond the limit. If you said Psyduck (who gives 1 EV in sp. atk), you would be right with the calculation. On the other hand, if you were to beat 31 Golducks with the Macho Brace and another one without it, you'd have 252 EVs. Still, 63/32 Pokemon is a lot of Pokemon to be KOing. I suggest beat the Battle Tower a few times so that you have enough BP to get the 6 Power Items. These give 4 extra EVs in a stat specified by the item. The Power Lens, for example, give 4 extra EVs in sp. atk. Beating a Bidoof (1 HP EV) while holding this would yield 1 HP EV and 4 sp. atk EVs (with Pokerus: 2 HP EVs, 8 Sp. atk EVs). Beating a Psyduck with this would yield 5 sp. atk EVs (with Pokerus: 10 sp. atk EVs). With Pokerus and the Power item, you'd only have to KO 25 Psyduck while holding it and 1 without it to get 252 EVs (10 x 25 = 250 + 2 = 252). As for your money woes, by the Backlot Mansion (Route 212) there is a Gentleman and a Sociallette who use a Chatot and Roselia respectively, relatively easy Pokemon to beat. When you've beat them enough times in Vs. Seeker rematches, they'll each start giving you more than http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/9/94/Pok%C3%A9buck_sign.gif10000. With the amulet coin, they'll give more than http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/9/94/Pok%C3%A9buck_sign.gif20000. This is a useful thing to do in with the battles it takes to spread Pokerus to other Pokemon. After a few rounds, you should be able to afford enough Vitamins (HP Up, Protein, etc). Note that each one gives 10 EVs and that you can only use them up to 10 times in a stat, so that means 100 free EVs in a stat. Was this helpful or just much more information than you wanted? |
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Could someone help me with a shaymin counter that could fit in on a stall UU team?
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There's always the Roserade Set with Calm / Maxed HP / Maxed Special Defense. Air Slash doesn't 2HKO and you can murder it with Sludge Bomb.
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