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jigglyppuff8 April 16th, 2009 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever Forum (Post 4545683)
Thanxs.

Oh, and too be sure, Magikarp gives 1 EV to Speed correct?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_effort_value_yield
Bookmark this page. It will save your life.

ethanftw April 16th, 2009 2:14 PM

can anyone tell me if my team is a decent one to use in UU, its a NU/UU team
thanks to anyone that helps, tweaks are encouraged and welcome

http://www.upokecenter.com/pictures/dp/icons/icon189.gifJumpluff @ Leftovers
Jolly Nature
Chlorophyll
188 SpD/68 Def/252 Spe
-Substitute
-Leech Seed
-Sleep Powder

-Encore

Basically my lead off pokemon, and my special wall/staller. Depending on the pokemon, i choose my moves carefully. If its a physical sweeper thats weak to one of my pokemon I can try and predict the swords dance and encore it, etc. Or throw a sub up first thing and then Leech, followed by stun spore, and then a possible switch. Variety of things I can do here really.

http://www.upokecenter.com/pictures/dp/icons/icon124.gifJynx @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
Forewarn
252 HP/6 SpD/252 Spe
-Mean Look
-Ice Beam
-Substitute
-Perish Song

A semi-common perishtrapper. It sounds as it seems, switch into Jynx and then mean look to trap them and then perish song them. The sub and ice beam are there for other type pokemon that Jynx can do good against. Basically Jynx won't come out to often in matches, just when I need her. I thought about it for awhile and I think that Leftovers is better than a scarf because I need to chain atleast 2 moves for her to be successful......but if you can change my mind, feel free.

http://www.upokecenter.com/pictures/dp/icons/icon208.gifSteelix @ Leftovers
Relaxed Nature
Sturdy
252 HP/120 Atk/136 SpD
-Explosion
-Earthquake
-Stealth Rock
-Gyro Ball


Steelix is basically my physical wall. He can throw up stealth rock, and explosion any of my problems away (LMAO). Gyro ball is also pretty effective because he is not only slow, he gets a STAB bonus from it as well. Earthquake is a very nice filler. He's also going to protect me from any Swellow that come along and try to Brave Bird me. [Credit goes to Pokedra for build and advice]

http://www.upokecenter.com/pictures/dp/icons/icon062.gifPoliwrath @ Choice Band
Adamant Nature
Water Absorb
72 HP/252 Atk/184 Spe
-Waterfall
-Brick Break
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake

Ok Poliwrath is my Ice killer, and a good physical sweeper. He has waterfall and brick break to take down and steelixs or clefables that come along. His rock slide was for taking down an electric type pokemon if my jynx is dead or just if i need to, THATS THE ONLY REASON HE DOESNT HAVE ICE PUNCH. And earthquake is there for a filler, a powerful and always useful one. His choice band will also increase the power of all these moves making it easier to kill.

http://www.upokecenter.com/pictures/dp/icons/icon275.gifShiftry @ Life Orb
Timid Nature
Chlorophyll
6 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe
-Dark Pulse
-Grass Knot
-Nasty Plot
-Extrasensory

Basically he kills psychic and water types for me. His grass knot can take down any water pokemon and dark pulse will handle the psychic types. Extrasensory is a pretty good thing to have on Shiftry. Nasty Plot is also awesome, especially since EV's are going into SpA. His life orb will boost his stats too, my other option for him was leftovers.

http://www.upokecenter.com/pictures/dp/icons/icon045.gifVileplume @ Leftovers
Calm Nature
Chlorophyll
244 HP/136 Def/128 SpD
-Stun Spore

-Toxic
-Aromatherapy
-Energy Ball

He's my status inducer. Pretty self-explanatory. Sleep powerder and toxic whenever needed and energy ball for some damage. Aromatherapy can help alot in UU too, as far as i know.


LOL NOTE: ignore steelix being green :D

Forever Forum April 16th, 2009 10:38 PM

I have question about friend codes.

I am new to the whole Wi-Fi experience, so when I have one of my friends registered in my Pal Pad, how exactly can I go about battling or trading with them? Where do I have to go/what do I have to do?

Archer April 17th, 2009 2:21 AM

You'll need to register the friend with a Friend Code and then go to the bottom floor of the Pokemon Centre and speak to the lady there. You'll then be taken to the Wifi Center and it's pretty self-explanatory from there.

Xairmo April 17th, 2009 4:52 PM

Could someone give me some physical and special tanks? Preferably newer sets.

Rhymed April 18th, 2009 12:50 AM

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa205.png
Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/4 Atk/252 Sp.Def
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Gyro Ball
- Spikes
- Rapid Spin
- Payback


http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/227.png

Skarmory @ Shed Shell
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 36 SpD / 20 Spe
Impish nature (+Def, -SpA)
- Whirlwind
- Spikes
- Roost
- Brave Bird

Special.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/145.png

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP/4 SAtk/252 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Roost
- Thunderbolt / Discharge
- Heat Wave
- Hidden Power [Grass]

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/242.png

Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 SpD
Calm nature (+SpD, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect
- Flamethrower
- Toxic

Also, Ethan, once steelix is dead, or indeed crippled, a dd altaria can come in and 6-0 you if it carries fire blast, or as mentioned before, it's dead.

Pokedra April 18th, 2009 2:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xairmo (Post 4553909)
Could someone give me some physical and special tanks? Preferably newer sets.

HIPPO!

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/455.png
Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Leftovers
EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 88 SpD
Impish nature (+Def, -SpAtk)
- Slack Off
- Stealth Rock
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake

Takes physicals hits like a champ ;) I would say he does physical walling better then Skarmory in some cases.

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/242.png

Blissey @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def / 40 SpA / 216 SpD
Calm nature (+SpD, -Atk)
- Wish
- Protect / Softboiled
- Flamethrower / Ice Beam
- Toxic / Thunder Wave

All your special walling needs are covered by this fat blob.

FinalPaladin April 18th, 2009 7:43 AM

ccould some one give me a lead aerodactyl set. pwitty please

Aurafire April 18th, 2009 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 4556443)
ccould some one give me a lead aerodactyl set. pwitty please

Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash
Jolly
4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake / Ice Fang
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge

Standard support lead. Taunt slower stuff that's trying to set up, and if they end up attacking, you can still get your rocks up with focus sash. Pretty useful set.

FinalPaladin April 18th, 2009 8:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurafire (Post 4556565)
Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash
Jolly
4 HP / 252 Attack / 252 Speed
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake / Ice Fang
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge

Standard support lead. Taunt slower stuff that's trying to set up, and if they end up attacking, you can still get your rocks up with focus sash. Pretty useful set.

Hey thanx.im gonna use ice fang over earth quake (for dragons) and rock slide over stone edge

Forever Forum April 18th, 2009 2:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archer (Post 4551139)
You'll need to register the friend with a Friend Code and then go to the bottom floor of the Pokemon Centre and speak to the lady there. You'll then be taken to the Wifi Center and it's pretty self-explanatory from there.

I have friends register that I wish to trade with, but when I enter the Wifi Center it takes me to a room with a tv screen and I don't know how to invite or play with my friends.

J-Rad April 18th, 2009 2:18 PM

You go to the TV screen and it'l give you a list of actions that yuo invite people to join...

Forever Forum April 18th, 2009 2:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Rad (Post 4557835)
You go to the TV screen and it'l give you a list of actions that yuo invite people to join...

For example, I am doing it right now.

I went to the TV, pressed A, and I choose "TRADE".

From there it says "Seeking participants..." and does nothing from there?

J-Rad April 18th, 2009 2:26 PM

Yeah, you then have to wait for one of your friends to come and accept the trade, afterwards a message shoud pop up saying -insert friend's name here- wants to play with you.

SmashBrony April 18th, 2009 3:14 PM

I wanted to try this on my Gravity team:
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
EVs: 240HP/ 160Def/ 76SpD/ 32Spe
Wish
Gravity
U-turn
Ice Punch
I wonder if Doom Desire is usable here...
Gravity will make it's accuracy 100%...
Or am I better of with Ice Punch or Body Slam?
& Which one of those 2 would be better overall?
Or should I use Thunder, of which will have 100% accuracy
during the effect of Gravity?
If you guys know nothing of Gravity teams,
I can PM you useful info on them.
(I'd put it here, but advertising is ill-eagle here..)

Awesomo April 18th, 2009 6:32 PM

kk i need sum help and i always come here to get it lol. Im making a NU team and im looking for a good EV spread for my ursaring. Im using a baton passer to hit him with a agility to boost his crappy speed im gonna be using a toxic orb or flame to get guts and facade going and then sword dance to raise his attack. Ne ideas would be appreciated

Forever Forum April 18th, 2009 7:23 PM

Thank you guys, got it to work.

I finally managed to get a good amount of the "Power" items from the Battle Frontier. Now, ho wexactly do these items work? I used to use Macho Brace for EV training, so how do these Power items work? Do they still double the amount of EVs gained like Macho Brace? Or do they add a different amount of EVS?

jigglyppuff8 April 18th, 2009 7:27 PM

The Power items work like this:
Every time you gain EVs, you get 4 more extra EVs in the mentioned stat. In the case of the Power Lens, that says it raises sp. atk. So if you were to KO a Bidoof (1 HP), you'd get 1 HP EV and 4 sp. atk EVs. If you KOed a Gastly (1 sp. atk), you'd get 5 sp. atk EVs.

Forever Forum April 18th, 2009 7:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpp8 (Post 4558983)
The Power items work like this:
Every time you gain EVs, you get 4 more extra EVs in the mentioned stat. In the case of the Power Lens, that says it raises sp. atk. So if you were to KO a Bidoof (1 HP), you'd get 1 HP EV and 4 sp. atk EVs. If you KOed a Gastly (1 sp. atk), you'd get 5 sp. atk EVs.

Wow...ok. Let me get this straight.

Say I am Ev training an Absol and I want to EV train it in attack. Normally what I would so is fight Gyarados since it gives 2 Attack EV. So I would equip my Absol with the Macho Brace and after defeating Gyarados, I would gain 4 EVs to Attack because Macho Brace doubles it. Now if I were to equip it with Power Bracelet(forgot the name of the Power item that raises EV attack, just using Bracelet for the sake of the argument), I would gain 6 Attack EVs after defeating Gyarados? 2 normally from Gyara and 4 extra from the Attack Power item?

jigglyppuff8 April 18th, 2009 7:38 PM

That is it exactly. Almost always, it will be more practical than the Macho Brace.

Pkmnhack April 18th, 2009 7:40 PM

how do i make a thred, i have make one before but i forgot...

Forever Forum April 18th, 2009 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpp8 (Post 4559014)
That is it exactly. Almost always, it will be more practical than the Macho Brace.

Thanxs jpp. You always seem to help whenever I need it lol.

So in essence, the Power items give 4 EV's to whatever they specialize in?

jigglyppuff8 April 18th, 2009 7:44 PM

Just click on the new thread button. Just make sure that you search to ensure that there already isn't a thread with the same purpose. If you're going to make a thread in this forum (S & M), then it will need to be approved first.

Basically, yeah, Forever Forum.

Skip Shot April 18th, 2009 8:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistermagius (Post 4558053)
I wanted to try this on my Gravity team:
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Nature: Impish
EVs: 240HP/ 160Def/ 76SpD/ 32Spe
Wish
Gravity
U-turn
Ice Punch
I wonder if Doom Desire is usable here...
Gravity will make it's accuracy 100%...
Or am I better of with Ice Punch or Body Slam?
& Which one of those 2 would be better overall?
Or should I use Thunder, of which will have 100% accuracy
during the effect of Gravity?
If you guys know nothing of Gravity teams,
I can PM you useful info on them.
(I'd put it here, but advertising is ill-eagle here..)

I ran a Jirachi on a Gravity team once as well. My advice is to stick with U-Turn, because Magnezone will almost always come in on you. However, instead of Ice Punch, go with either Iron Head or Body Slam for flinch/parahax. Otherwise, the set looks fine.
If you want to use Thunder, go ahead, but you lose coverage on Ground-types with Jirachi, and most Gravity teams suffer a strong weakness to Mamoswine, as I found out the hard way.

crystalvelox April 19th, 2009 12:10 AM

When rest was used and then a pokemon sleep talked could it still use rest and recover HP in it's sleep?

I thought it did that, but I never tried it and I saw in a battle on the battle frontier thing in platinum that that doesn't work. One of the experts there used the wailord with rest tried to sleep talk a rest and got a message saying that it couldn't do that.

So really just asking if that was possible in the other games before platinum. If so, then there goes the crocune idea.

Azonic April 19th, 2009 4:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalvelox (Post 4559530)
When rest was used and then a pokemon sleep talked could it still use rest and recover HP in it's sleep?

I thought it did that, but I never tried it and I saw in a battle on the battle frontier thing in platinum that that doesn't work. One of the experts there used the wailord with rest tried to sleep talk a rest and got a message saying that it couldn't do that.

So really just asking if that was possible in the other games before platinum. If so, then there goes the crocune idea.

No, and I don't think you ever could have.

Alternative April 19th, 2009 4:24 AM

Are there any Pokemon that can Baton Pass Calm Mind/Nasty Plot, without the need of Focus Sash?

.Ozymandias April 19th, 2009 7:36 AM

I'm looking for a slightly unusual moveset to stick on an Adamant Gallade, along with an EV spread to match with it. Anyone any ideas?

Nytkoi April 19th, 2009 8:00 AM

http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/gallade I suggest you take a glance at these, and maybe slightly change the moveset that you like the best.

Nytkoi

Dr. Strange April 19th, 2009 9:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blakus (Post 4559939)
Are there any Pokemon that can Baton Pass Calm Mind/Nasty Plot, without the need of Focus Sash?

You don't need the Focus Sash to Baton Pass Calm Mind/Nasty Plot(if they have low defensive stats then they would need it), there are many pokemon who can do this though.

I'll name a few for you though:

By leveling, they are...
Mr. Mime/Mime. Jr
Mew
Espeon/Eevee
Celebi
Girafarig
Gorebyss
Medicham/Meditite
Drifblim/Drifloon

By breeding, they are...
Absol

jigglyppuff8 April 19th, 2009 10:14 AM

True, but odds are that not many of them will survive long enough for the set up (mostly because most of them are in NU or just have crappy defenses; that's why the focus sash is used). The only viable ones I see on that list are Espeon, Celebi, and Drifblim (Mew if you count Uber tier).

Fallujah April 19th, 2009 12:30 PM

I need a good moveset for:
Blastoise Lv78 (Mystic Water)
Waterfall
Surf
Ice Beam
Skul Bash
(I know this is a pretty bad set)
Gengar Lv71 (Spooky Plate)
Hypnosis
Dream eater
Shadow Ball
Dark Pulse
(Friend says that I should make a change)

Dr. Strange April 19th, 2009 1:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpp8 (Post 4561026)
True, but odds are that not many of them will survive long enough for the set up (mostly because most of them are in NU or just have crappy defenses; that's why the focus sash is used). The only viable ones I see on that list are Espeon, Celebi, and Drifblim (Mew if you count Uber tier).

Oh my, It seems that I didn't put much thought into them having the Focus Sash and Baton Passing. I seem to be a bit off this month -_-

SmashBrony April 19th, 2009 3:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Shot (Post 4559144)
I ran a Jirachi on a Gravity team once as well. My advice is to stick with U-Turn, because Magnezone will almost always come in on you. However, instead of Ice Punch, go with either Iron Head or Body Slam for flinch/parahax. Otherwise, the set looks fine.
If you want to use Thunder, go ahead, but you lose coverage on Ground-types with Jirachi, and most Gravity teams suffer a strong weakness to Mamoswine, as I found out the hard way.

Body Slam.
I'mma using Body Slam.
What about Doom Desire?

crystalvelox April 19th, 2009 4:30 PM

With Rotom forms soon to be available for the platinum verision I've started looking into a form. Overall, Rotom Heat has been the preferred choice for competitive battling. Now, I have looked around and seen 2 major rotom heat forms: Trick varients and Bulky Varients. And among those you have rotoms with maxed speed and special attack with either modest or timid depending on scarf or specs. The bulky goes for more of a support utility with reflect or will-o-wisp as a 4th slot and defences increased with leftovers. The one thing that is the same is the shadow ball, overheat and thunderbolt (very occasionally discharge) moves.

Now I wanted to know what were the main utilities of them: specs, scarf and bulky varients like what they are best at stopping, what attacks can they survive, what they can outspeed, etc.

Genetics April 19th, 2009 5:39 PM

I've been thinking and i want to run a regigigas in my team and I've noticed he's gotten a bit of flak just for his ability which though the most useless thing ever created isn't completely crippling ( certainly not the deserving of his NU branding as UU is more suitable) anyways Ive thought about and i think I've thought of a good move set for him.

substitute(almost necessary if you want to use him IMO)
double team (can help with stalling after substitute is used)
drain punch (can help by getting back hp used to create substitutes plus if i put big root on him(i think thats what it is called) he'll get back even more hp)
Facade( this is the only one I'm not sure about sure the base power is good when he's statused but thats not something you want in the first place if anyone has any ideas to a good STAB for this guy I'd be Glad to hear any suggestions)

as for Ev's i think i wanna max out hp and attack but i don't know what to put the rest in.

so theres my plan for him I'd love to hear any comments or criticisms anyone has. =)

SmashBrony April 19th, 2009 5:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genetics (Post 4562928)
I've been thinking and i want to run a regigigas in my team and I've noticed he's gotten a bit of flak just for his ability which though the most useless thing ever created isn't completely crippling ( certainly not the deserving of his NU branding as UU is more suitable) anyways Ive thought about and i think I've thought of a good move set for him.

substitute(almost necessary if you want to use him IMO)
double team (can help with stalling after substitute is used)
drain punch (can help by getting back hp used to create substitutes plus if i put big root on him(i think thats what it is called) he'll get back even more hp)
Facade( this is the only one I'm not sure about sure the base power is good when he's statused but thats not something you want in the first place if anyone has any ideas to a good STAB for this guy I'd be Glad to hear any suggestions)

as for Ev's i think i wanna max out hp and attack but i don't know what to put the rest in.

so theres my plan for him I'd love to hear any comments or criticisms anyone has. =)

Good luck getting ANYONE to say anything....
I've made a Regigigas set that NO ONE seems to have noticed...
Double Team is Ill-eagle, I heard....
Imo, I'd use my set for it... I can PM you it,
if you'd like...

Forever Forum April 19th, 2009 5:48 PM

I don't mean to keep coming back here, but I'm a little stuck here(again...).

I am trying to get me and my buddy together so we can battle together in the Battle Tower against other trainers while he is in his house and I am at my house, but I can't get it to work. We talk to the lady dressed in purple and when one of us selects "Become Leader" and the other selects "Join Group", we can't go from there.

Can anyone help me on how to get this to work?

Genetics April 19th, 2009 5:57 PM

sure i'd love to see your moveset for regigigas and why would Double team be iilegal is evreyone TRYING to keep regigigas down?

SmashBrony April 19th, 2009 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genetics (Post 4563007)
sure i'd love to see your moveset for regigigas and why would Double team be iilegal is evreyone TRYING to keep regigigas down?

Because there's not that many "Never-miss"
moves that are actually any good.
In fact, Aura Sphere is the ONLY good one,
& Lucario & Togekiss are the only ones to learn it in OU.
& I'll PM the set....

Genetics April 19th, 2009 6:08 PM

yeah but still shuckle is NU and he's allowed double team. last time i checked anyway that might of changed.

The Hero Without a Name April 19th, 2009 7:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genetics (Post 4563041)
yeah but still shuckle is NU and he's allowed double team. last time i checked anyway that might of changed.

well you need to check again, because absolutely no Pokemon is allowed to use Double Team in any competitive environment.

Forever Forum April 19th, 2009 8:28 PM

Hold item for Tyranitar?
 
Need help deciding a Hold item for Tyranitar.

Currently my team goes as:

Scizor @ Life Orb
Swampert @ Leftovers
Latios @ [Nothing, currently trying to obtain a Soul Dew]

I find myself juggling between Choice Band and Focus Sash for Tyranitar. Choice Band helps to OHKO most opponents online, but Focus Sash helps a lot when I find my Tyranitar against Staraptors, Infernapes or Brelooms.

Any suggestions?

StrickeN April 19th, 2009 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forever Forum (Post 4563457)
Need help deciding a Hold item for Tyranitar.

Currently my team goes as:

Scizor @ Life Orb
Swampert @ Leftovers
Latios @ [Nothing, currently trying to obtain a Soul Dew]

I find myself juggling between Choice Band and Focus Sash for Tyranitar. Choice Band helps to OHKO most opponents online, but Focus Sash helps a lot when I find my Tyranitar against Staraptors, Infernapes or Brelooms.

Any suggestions?

Glad we are playing by the rules eh?

FYI soul dew and latios are both banned in OU play.

TTar you have to determine a hold item dependant of what it's roll is. I've seen some use LO with DD osme with CBPursuit and much more. It depends what roll is he filling?

Archer April 19th, 2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrickeN (Post 4563644)
Glad we are playing by the rules eh?

FYI soul dew and latios are both banned in OU play.

TTar you have to determine a hold item dependant of what it's roll is. I've seen some use LO with DD osme with CBPursuit and much more. It depends what roll is he filling?

If he mentioned CB as an option, we can only hope he meant and all-out attacking set. CBTar is great. Focus Sash is pretty useless on something like Tyranitar, as it has brilliant bulk on both the Physical and Special sides, so Focus sash is only going to let you live Close Combats, and the like. This is pointless, as Stone Edge, your primary move for hitting Staraptor is not 100% accurate; you're slow, so the next pokemon will take you out and you can't switch out, as Stealth Rock will kill it on the way in.

Sash can work on a DD Set, but it's really not recommended, with priority running rampant. Try this:

Tyranitar @ Choice Band
Adamant | Sand Stream
[ 164 HP, 252 Atk, 92 Spd ]
~ Stone Edge
~ Crunch
~ Pursuit
~ Aqua Tail/Earthquake

Aqua Tail is better for Gliscor, Hipoowdon and... God forbid... Donphan. It 2HKOs them both. Keep in mind, the faster Gliscor's EQ will hurt. EQ is better if you don't have access to the Platinum Tutors or are more worried about Metagross etc.
The EVs outspeed Standard 16 Spd Skarmory, so you can 2HKO with SE.

d2m April 19th, 2009 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiroi Togekiss (Post 4563222)
well you need to check again, because absolutely no Pokemon is allowed to use Double Team in any competitive environment.

Note: Shuckle can abuse the hell out of accupressure, though, if he gets lucky and gets 2 evasion ups, he's invincible.

Translator April 20th, 2009 5:02 AM

Is Return affected by attack boosting moves like Swords Dance.? Can someone also give me a good moveset for Porygon.? Thanks.

Translator April 20th, 2009 5:03 AM

Can someone give me a good moveset for Porygon.? Thanks.

Milke April 20th, 2009 6:49 AM

I'm using my Porygon-Z in the Battle Hall currently and need help with his moveset. I don't know his IVs yet and he's not EV trained, but this is his moveset now. Level 60. I've had him since the Porygon that dude gives you in Velistone.

[email protected] Orb
Modest Nature
~Tri Attack
~Psychic
~Thunderbolt
~Signal Beam

Skip Shot April 20th, 2009 7:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheekoo (Post 4564174)
Is Return affected by attack boosting moves like Swords Dance.? Can someone also give me a good moveset for Porygon.? Thanks.

Swords Dance does increase the power of all physical moves by raising your Attack 2 stages. Therefore, it does affect Return.

I would ask for a Porygon set in the Request a Team/Moveset thread.

Neko Keeshi April 20th, 2009 8:53 AM

I'm trying to build a little cup team and I was wondering what your guys opinions on this moveset of these guys. I also need help on picking items and what items are aloud in the Little Cup rules.

Eevee = Adaptability; Wish, Yawn, Return, Dig

Elekid = Static; Cross chop, Ice Punch, Signal Beam, Magnet Rise

Stunky = Aftermath; sludge bomb, shadow claw, night slash, flame thrower

Growlith = Intimidate; Crunch, Heat Wave, Body Slam, Roar

Smoochum = Forewarn; Ice Beam, Psychic, Shadow Ball, Grass Knot

Lileep = Suction Cups; Energy Ball, Recover, Rock Slide, Rock Polish


PM with opinions :D

FinalPaladin April 20th, 2009 8:58 AM

get rid of shadow claw on stunky, sorry dont no what you could replace it with,maybe slash

Neko Keeshi April 20th, 2009 9:03 AM

What about Iron Tail? Its pretty high attack and another attack type to cover.

Aurafire April 20th, 2009 9:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DunderMifflinite (Post 4564408)
I'm using my Porygon-Z in the Battle Hall currently and need help with his moveset. I don't know his IVs yet and he's not EV trained, but this is his moveset now. Level 60. I've had him since the Porygon that dude gives you in Velistone.

[email protected] Orb
Modest Nature
~Tri Attack
~Psychic
~Thunderbolt
~Signal Beam

Ice beam and Dark Pulse give you better type coverage over psychic. But the thing is, P-Z it kinda slow for a simple life orb sweeper. Might wanna check out some interesting options here to see what fits your team best. http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/porygon-z

Milke April 20th, 2009 9:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aurafire (Post 4564673)
Ice beam and Dark Pulse give you better type coverage over psychic. But the thing is, P-Z it kinda slow for a simple life orb sweeper. Might wanna check out some interesting options here to see what fits your team best. http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/porygon-z

It's for the Battle Hall, so it's the only pokemon. There are no others on the team at that facility. Thanks for the link. I'm going to delete signal beam for dark pulse, I think.

Veristical Blaze April 20th, 2009 10:40 AM

Dunder Mifflinite, your poke

[email protected] Orb
Modest Nature
EV's: 252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 6 Spe
~Tri Attack
~Psychic
~Thunderbolt
~Dark Pulse <--Better type coverage

Milke April 20th, 2009 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veristical Blaze (Post 4564854)
Dunder Mifflinite, your poke

[email protected] Orb
Modest Nature
EV's: 252 HP / 252 SpAtk / 6 Spe
~Tri Attack
~Psychic
~Thunderbolt
~Dark Pulse <--Better type coverage

HP? I thought speed and sp attack for sure.

Aurafire April 20th, 2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DunderMifflinite (Post 4564966)
HP? I thought speed and sp attack for sure.

Yes, just stick with Sp attack and Speed. HP EVs on Porygon-Z is usually pretty lol.

Awesomo April 20th, 2009 1:59 PM

Looking for some help. i need a poke who is bulkier then floatzel to baton pass off agility boost in the NU tier. Nebody got a idea

jigglyppuff8 April 20th, 2009 2:09 PM

I'm a complete idiot when it comes to serious competitive battling, but Gorebyss and Lopunny look like good candidates to me.

mizu-kun April 20th, 2009 2:40 PM

Can someone give me a quick little moveset for Buizel and/or Floatzel?

SmashBrony April 20th, 2009 4:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizu-kun (Post 4565604)
Can someone give me a quick little moveset for Buizel and/or Floatzel?

Here's what I'd use: (or maybe the pure psyical rain set...)

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Name: MixDance
Item: Mystic Water
Nature: Rash
EVs: 240 Atk / 252 SpA / 16 Spe
Moveset:
~ Rain Dance
~ Surf
~ Waterfall
~ Toxic / Ice Beam

Floatzel is a surprisingly good Mixed Sweeper thanks to decent offensive stats and Rain Dance. This set works just like any other Rain Dancer; find a turn to Rain Dance and start inflicting pain. Surf is the primary STAB here, as it will outdamage Waterfall most of the time. The set is fairly simple; just hit the opponent on its weaker defensive stat. The final slot helps combat pokemon that resist Water attacks. Ice Beam will hit Breloom, Tangrowth, Salamence, and Dragonite hard, but will leave you lost against Water Pokemon. Toxic is Floatzel's best attempt at crippling Bulky Waters, as most of them can shrug off Hidden Power Electrics and unboosted Crunches and Returns all day but will hate the lingering effects of Toxic, barring those that have access to Rest and Sleep Talk.
With these EVs, Floatzel hits an amazing 540 Speed in the Rain, and 270 Speed to beat neutral Heracross even without rain. Mystic Water is the item of choice, since you are using only water attacks and Life Orb recoil will only hinder you.

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Now I'm wondering...
which one of these is the better defensive duo?:
Bronzong & Spiritomb
Dusknoir & Heatran
Or is there a better mixed defensive Steel & Ghost-typed duo?

Extric April 20th, 2009 6:16 PM

Okay, I just bought Platinum and I'm looking to get back into the competitive battling scene. Does anyone know of any site that I can use to read up on the current metagame and info on new Pokémon movesets?

jigglyppuff8 April 20th, 2009 6:41 PM

Smogon is always a good resource for me.

Forever Forum April 20th, 2009 7:24 PM

I was able to get a movie Shaymin today via trade. I used the Gracidea to transform it into Sky Forme, but when I try again, it didn't work.

Anyone know why?

jigglyppuff8 April 20th, 2009 7:41 PM

*Yawn* Maybe because it's night time. :3
Also, it doesn't work when Shaymin is frozen.

Alternative April 21st, 2009 12:58 AM

I'm looking for an Altaria set that can utilize the Heal Bell and still live. I'm looking for other moves, EV spread and nature.

I'm also looking for a Special UU Sweeper that would fit into a semi-stall team, and maybe resistance to birds such as swellow and honchkrow.

Veristical Blaze April 21st, 2009 6:44 AM

Quote:

Now I'm wondering...
which one of these is the better defensive duo?:
Bronzong & Spiritomb
Dusknoir & Heatran
Or is there a better mixed defensive Steel & Ghost-typed duo?
I think Bronzong+Spiritomb is a better one because their a physical and special wall like pokemons and spiri's typing is a nice one without super effective's

Translator April 21st, 2009 10:58 PM

Can someone give me a good moveset for Misdreavus.? Thanks. (3rd generation attacks only.)

FinalPaladin April 22nd, 2009 2:27 AM

Can someone please rate

[email protected] orb
rash nature
sp atk252/Atk252/sp def4
~Hydropump
~waterfall
~dracometeor
~dragon dance

dont suggest outrage as i have pearl (not platinum)

˚° ﺎ ﮟ סּ ﻛ °˚ April 22nd, 2009 10:04 AM

Hi, don't know if this goes in here or the Simple Q&A, but what would be better on a standard SD Lucario, Stone Edge of Ice Punch

Luke
Standard Evs/Nature
~SD
~ExtremeSpd
~CC
~Stone Edge/Ice Punch

Thanks ^^

Dark Azelf April 22nd, 2009 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ˚° ﺎ ﮟ סּ ﻛ °˚ (Post 4571319)
Hi, don't know if this goes in here or the Simple Q&A, but what would be better on a standard SD Lucario, Stone Edge of Ice Punch

Luke
Standard Evs/Nature
~SD
~ExtremeSpd
~CC
~Stone Edge/Ice Punch

Thanks ^^

I generally prefer Stone Edge. Hits everything Ice Punch will except Gliscor (lol).

˚° ﺎ ﮟ סּ ﻛ °˚ April 22nd, 2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 4571339)
I generally prefer Stone Edge. Hits everything Ice Punch will except Gliscor (lol).

Yeah, Gliscor is the one I was worried about =S
But I guess I have a P2 Ice Beam to deal with him, I hope thats enough xP

FinalPaladin April 23rd, 2009 8:41 AM

Hi im using a pikacchu set.im using the pika from battle revolution so i cant get a different hdden power type as i need surf (damn).
pleaze raate

[email protected]
hardy nature
evs some in atk sp.atk and spe(please tell me what evs i need)
volt tackle
sub
surf
focus punch

Max™ April 23rd, 2009 3:56 PM

So yea, I havent used Rotom-Appliance yet...So Im just wondering what the set that's used for it would be...

wolf April 23rd, 2009 4:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Wynaut (Post 4575057)
So yea, I havent used Rotom-Appliance yet...So Im just wondering what the set that's used for it would be...

Here is the analysis for Heat (click on the word of each form), Frost, Wash, Mow, and Fan.

Hope I helped. ;D

=major yum! April 23rd, 2009 11:33 PM

Which move is more effective in UU: Grass Knot or Energy Ball?

Aurafire April 24th, 2009 3:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =major yum! (Post 4576169)
Which move is more effective in UU: Grass Knot or Energy Ball?

It depends on the pokemon really, although in general, Energy Ball hits the bulky waters a bit harder in UU/NU since they're lighter there. I don't think using one or the other is goign to cost you terribly though.

.Ozymandias April 24th, 2009 5:21 AM

I'm thinking about using Plusle and Minun in a NU doubles, what would be the best movesets and natures for them?

SmashBrony April 24th, 2009 7:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veristical Blaze (Post 4567700)
I think Bronzong+Spiritomb is a better one because their a physical and special wall like pokemons and spiri's typing is a nice one without super effective's

Thanks!
Blakus:
I've looked up Altaria & Swablu, unless they haven't up-dated them yet,
cannot learn Heal Bell.

Cheekoo:
Here's what I'd use:
Name: Perish Trapper
Item: Leftovers Nature: Calm
Moveset: (below) EVs: 252 HP / 176 Def / 16 SpD / 64 Spe
~ Mean Look
~ Perish Song
~ Taunt / Destiny Bond
~ Protect

MissyD! The old Perish Trapper from GSC is back for more in ADV. However, the only reason Misdreavus was used over Gengar for trapping in GSC was because it wasn't weak to Psychic or Earthquake. Considering that Misdreavus only has a small amount more Special Defense and the same Ground immunity, and that Gengar is much faster for Taunting and is generally cooler, you might want to go with that. Still, the Special Defense and no Psychic weakness is nice. Perish trapping is even better in ADV with Taunt. Trap your foe, Protect to regain health from Leftovers, Perish Song or Taunt depending on who is on the field. Protect and Taunt whore until it falls, and switch out. This is really a no-brainer, and works best with Jirachi to give Wish support. Jirachi can also take Explosions, which are common after Perish Trapping. Use Destiny Bond if you are sure Misdreavus isn't going to survive the 3 turn setup Perish Song needs.

FinalPaladin:
The Kingdra set is good, except you need to give it the Adamant nature,
& use this EV spead: 252Atk/ 24Sp.A/ 232Spd
& you're better off using this for Pikachu:
Name: MixedPika
Item: Light Ball Nature: Hasty/ Naive
Moveset: (below) EVs: 152 Atk / 104 SpA / 252 Spe
~ Thunderbolt / Volt Tackle
~ Brick Break
~ Grass Knot / Hidden Power Ice
~ Substitute

In DP, Light Ball doubles Pikachu's Attack as well as its Special Attack, making a physical set viable on him. This particular Pikachu is NOT walled by the likes of Blissey and Snorlax; in fact, he does a significant number against the two with Brick Break. Volt Tackle is made even more potent by the fact that Pikachu has a slightly higher Attack than Special Attack, but the recoil along with Substitute could kill him very quickly considering his meager HP, even without his opponent's help.

Dr. Strange April 25th, 2009 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by =major yum! (Post 4576169)
Which move is more effective in UU: Grass Knot or Energy Ball?

Lets see, Grass Knot's power varies depending on the weight of your opponent's pokemon(it can deal damage to a max of 120) while Energy Ball's damage is constant(with a base power of 80), but like Aurafire stated Energy Ball is better for those kind of matches.

Sword Up My Butt April 25th, 2009 1:58 PM

Muk?
 
Im thinking of using my muk as a toxic stall,

nature: relaxed/modest

moveset:
Acid Armor
Toxic
Mimize
Sludge bomb

yes or no?

The Hero Without a Name April 25th, 2009 2:12 PM

Special Muk=NO. His Special Attack blows, especially in comparison to his base 105 Attack.
Besides that, Minimize is banned.

Barney. April 25th, 2009 2:56 PM

I recently found a sassy CurseShieldon just lurking in one of my boxes..I checked it's IVs..And they were rather good..Apart from it's attack..Which was 6.

But it's Special Attack was 30..

so, do you think I could use this shieldon to make a Curse/Metal Burst Bastiodon but use the BoltBeam combo instead of Stone Edge/EQ ??

And what EVs should I use?

scoli April 25th, 2009 11:49 PM

I was hoping someone could help me thikn of some items and the last pokemon to my team please =/ currently :

Leafeon/??????
ATK/SPD EV
Adament

Leaf Blade
X Scissor
Swords Dance
??????????(was thinking Giga Impact or GrassWistle)



Absol/Razor Claw
Super Luck
ATK/SPD EV
Naughty

Night Slash
Psychocut
Sucker Punch
Swords Dance



Infernape/????
ATK/Sp.ATK EV
Mild/Rash

Flamethrower/Blast Burn
Flare Blitz
Focus Blast
Close Combat



Rhyperior/???
Solid Rock
Brave/relaxed
ATK/DEF EV

Earthquake
Megahorn
Hammer Arm
Stone Edge



Garchomp/Grip Claw
ATK/SPD Ev
Lonely

Outrage <--- currently trying to get =]
Draco Meteor
Sand Storm
Earthquake

and the last pokemnon who knows >.< im stuck =/ would greatly appreciate any help or suggestions

Rhymed April 26th, 2009 4:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoli (Post 4583171)
I was hoping someone could help me thikn of some items and the last pokemon to my team please =/ currently :

Leafeon/??????
ATK/SPD EV
Adament

Leaf Blade
X Scissor
Swords Dance
??????????(was thinking Giga Impact or GrassWistle)



Absol/Razor Claw
Super Luck
ATK/SPD EV
Naughty

Night Slash
Psychocut
Sucker Punch
Swords Dance



Infernape/????
ATK/Sp.ATK EV
Mild/Rash

Flamethrower/Blast Burn
Flare Blitz
Focus Blast
Close Combat



Rhyperior/???
Solid Rock
Brave/relaxed
ATK/DEF EV

Earthquake
Megahorn
Hammer Arm
Stone Edge



Garchomp/Grip Claw
ATK/SPD Ev
Lonely

Outrage <--- currently trying to get =]
Draco Meteor
Sand Storm
Earthquake

and the last pokemnon who knows >.< im stuck =/ would greatly appreciate any help or suggestions

Not even worth fixing, to be honest, you have terrible natures, an uber and some really strange moveset choices. sorry :[

FinalPaladin April 26th, 2009 5:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoli (Post 4583171)
I was hoping someone could help me thikn of some items and the last pokemon to my team please =/ currently :

Leafeon/??????
ATK/spe
Adament

Leaf Blade
X Scissor
Swords Dance
??????????(was thinking Giga Impact or GrassWistle)



Absol/Razor Claw
Super Luck
ATK/SPD EV
Naughty

Night Slash
Psychocut
Sucker Punch
Swords Dance



Infernape/????
ATK/Sp.ATK EV
Mild/Rash

Flamethrower/Blast Burn
Flare Blitz
Focus Blast
Close Combat



Rhyperior/???
Solid Rock
Brave/relaxed
ATK/DEF EV

Earthquake
Megahorn
Hammer Arm
Stone Edge



Garchomp/Grip Claw
ATK/SPD Ev
Lonely

Outrage <--- currently trying to get =]
Draco Meteor
Sand Storm
Earthquake

and the last pokemnon who knows >.< im stuck =/ would greatly appreciate any help or suggestions

ITs OK ill coment on the high amount of mistakes for ya

MISTAKES IN BOLD

1.Never use any moves that leave you pokemon unable to attack next turn (like hyper beam and blast burn) as to normal attacks (like return or Flame thrower) will do more damage than one hyper beam.also those attacks leave you un able to switch out and can leave you open to dangerous attacks like focus punch.

2. Here a the natures you need
Absol:Adamant
Rhyperior:Adament
Garchomp:jolly
Infernape:Naive

3.Why the heck is the grip claw on garchomp,it has no use what so ever.replace with yache berry

4.Get rid of draco meteor and sand storm on garchomd and replace with either fire fang,swords dance(reccomended).you could use stone edge for ice types and crunch as a filler but fire fang and swords dance are reccomended

5.get rid of flare blitz and focus blast on infernape.replace with grass knot and thunder punch (you will have to breed for it)

6.EVS needed
garchomp atk252/spe252/HP4
infernape atk /spe /sp.atk (cant remeber the numbers)
absol atk252/spe252/Def4
leafeon atk252/spe /????
Im not to sure on evs but yours need changing.
hope i helped

Could i have a scizzor set i was thinkkin of these moves
quik attack
aerial ace
bullet punch

Rhymed April 26th, 2009 5:22 AM

http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/212.png

Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Technician
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- Superpower
- Pursuit
---

FinalPaladin April 26th, 2009 5:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rhymed (Post 4583778)
http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/212.png

Scizor (M) @ life orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- U-turn
- brick break
- Pursuit
---

i have slightly tweaked ur set as i dont have platinum for super power and i dont like the side affect on choice band

Barney. April 26th, 2009 6:02 AM

If you so badly want to use a life orb..

Replace Pursuit with Swords Dance and U-Turn with X-Scissor

FinalPaladin April 26th, 2009 7:22 AM

thanx i think that i will. are there any physical bug moves that have 40-60 power if so what are they as i could use them on scizor

Dark Azelf April 26th, 2009 8:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FinalPaladin (Post 4584127)
thanx i think that i will. are there any physical bug moves that have 40-60 power if so what are they as i could use them on scizor

No.

Just use X-Scissor on it =/

Barney. April 26th, 2009 11:48 AM

There's Silver Wind

I didn't get an answer:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Korova. (Post 4581568)
I recently found a sassy CurseShieldon just lurking in one of my boxes..I checked it's IVs..And they were rather good..Apart from it's attack..Which was 6.

But it's Special Attack was 30..

so, do you think I could use this shieldon to make a Curse/Metal Burst Bastiodon but use the BoltBeam combo instead of Stone Edge/EQ ??

And what EVs should I use?

kty.

Frequency April 26th, 2009 12:55 PM

I would give the hand to energy ball.

When you use Substitue, does the pokemon's stats determine how long it lasts? I've been wondering that for awhile...

jigglyppuff8 April 26th, 2009 12:59 PM

A substitute takes 1/4 of a Pokemon's HP and can only withstand that much.

Aurafire April 26th, 2009 8:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Korova. (Post 4581568)
I recently found a sassy CurseShieldon just lurking in one of my boxes..I checked it's IVs..And they were rather good..Apart from it's attack..Which was 6.

But it's Special Attack was 30..

so, do you think I could use this shieldon to make a Curse/Metal Burst Bastiodon but use the BoltBeam combo instead of Stone Edge/EQ ??

And what EVs should I use?

I wouldn't use it at all, You already have to invest heavily in HP and the defenses so it doesn't die, and that leaves little room for any Sp attack EVs to make it remotely effective =/

SoulRed12 April 27th, 2009 11:02 PM

Just curious, is this forum for critiquing in-game teams (such as, the competitive team I set up on my actual Pokemon Emerald cartridge)? Or only for teams made with and for online battling programs like Shoddy?

Pokedra April 28th, 2009 12:33 AM

Only for Shoddy/Wi-Fi teams =] In-game teams don't really have a place =/

AuraGuardianLeader April 28th, 2009 6:54 AM

In anyone's opinion, what do you think is the best non-Legendary Water Pokemon?

Aurafire April 28th, 2009 7:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AuraGuardianLeader (Post 4590105)
In anyone's opinion, what do you think is the best non-Legendary Water Pokemon?

There's no "best" water pokemon...It depends on the situation or how you want to use them. Gyrados, Starmie, Vaporeon, Kingdra, Swampert...All good water pokemon, but they fill very different rolls. Gyrados and Kingdra are more offensively oriented, while Vaporeon and Swampert are more defensive and supportive.


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