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It seems like noone has justified the tiers. In actual fact, there are three tiers, four if you count BL (BorderLine) but right now, BL has been merged with UU. So you can use BL pokemon in a UU game.
Anyway. Tiers. Uber: These are pokemon with absurdly high stats and are too powerful for the regular metagame. This is because these pokemon would be too overcentralizing: meaning that at least every team would have to have a counter for this pokemon to be effective because it is such a great threat. OU: Over used, regular game play tier. Nothing special here, but pokemon in OU are too much for UU. UU: The reason why pokemon are in UU could be for different reasons. They could be outclassed. That means that another pokemon might be able to do it's job better, and hence, it is under used. Another reason could be simply because its movepool and stats are not enough to make it a viable threat in the UU environment. Any kind of pokemon may be used in Uber. Now. I'd just like to know this: which scene is more "competitive", Wifi battling on the DS or Shoddy on the PC? I really think it's shoddy, but I want some opinions here. |
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Pathetic troll is quite pathetic. But incase that's a serious question, Gyarados. Also, reported for a poor troll. 0/10 |
Im thinking about getting back into it with platinum coming out and all. Here is my question. WIll the stone edge of a aerodactyl with neutral attack nature max attack EV's max IV's kill a salamence after stealth rock damage. Im just worried that after intimidate that the mence will be left with some small amount and ill get owned
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And with a Choice Band, -1 Jolly Aero's Stone Edge on 80 HP / 0 DEF Salamence does 97% minimum, so yes. |
im trying to avoid choice banding my aero. Even with max Ev's in attack and a life orb ur saying it wont kill the mence after the SR?
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Damage: 85.19% - 100.28% So yep it dies after SR definately. |
sweet thank you very much. i was wondering is there a website you use to calculate those damages?
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That one ^ http://ownpurpose.com/libelldra/damage_calculator.html Or that one ^ ^_^ |
What do you guys think I should add for my future platinum team?
Gengar @ Leftovers 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe [MILD +SpA, -Def] -Shadow Ball -Hypnosis -Sludge Bomb -Dream Eater Glaceon @ Leftovers 200 HP / 252 SpA / 56 Spe [MODEST +SpA, -Atk] -Blizzard -Wish -Fake Tears -Hail Gallade @ Focus Sash 100 HP / 252 Atk / 156 Spe[ADAMENT +Atk, -SpA] -Close Combat -Swords Dance -Psycho Cut -Earthquake Garchomp @ Haban Berry 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe [HASTY +Spe, -Def] -Earthquake -Dragon Pulse -Outrage -Flamethrower What do you guys think I should add/change to my future team? All suggestions appreciated :) Thanks! |
For starters, Garchomp is Uber. Gengar should be specially attacking. And Glaceon / Gallade are outclassed.
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There's nothing wrong with Glaceon and Gallade, but change them if you're willing to use anything to win. >_>
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and thanks for hte suggestion :) |
64 HP / 252 Atk / 192 Spe On Gallade to beat jolly tar.
Timid Nature on Gengar, it needs that speed. Hasty can be used if you want too, in which case Explosion can go >> Hypnosis and you go 40 att / 216 sp.att / 252 speed. This ensures you OHKO Blissey and snorlax with boom. But yeah, what the above poster said. |
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You'll have to figure out who you want for your last three slots. A physical wall of some sort would be a start, as well as something that can lay down Spikes/SR and something that can spin them away. A staller is always nice too. |
Gengar @ Life Orb 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe [MILD +SpA, -Def] -Shadow Ball -Hypnosis -Sludge Bomb -Dream Eater Glaceon @ Leftovers 200 HP / 252 SpA / 56 Spe [MODEST +SpA, -Atk] -Ice Beam -Wish -Fake Tears -Hail Gallade @ Focus Sash 100 HP / 252 Atk / 156 Spe[ADAMENT +Atk, -SpA] -Close Combat -Swords Dance -Psycho Cut -Earthquake Cloyster @ Leftovers 200 HP / 56 Def / 252 SpD [BOLD +Def, -Atk] -Spikes -Toxic Spikes -Explosion -Surf How does that look so far? |
All of your Pokemon are like, extinct from the OU metagame. ._.; Except Gengar, which is an endangered species and is currently being hunted down by Steve Irwin.
Take a look at the Threats to an OU Metagame. Those are a list of some of the most fearsome Pokemon used in the OU Metagame today. Recommended Pokemon are Salamence, a brutal force in the metagame with a hard hitting Outrage and high speed to outrun it, Zapdos / Rotom-h, both fast and very diversified Pokemon in their movesets, Scizor, an abusive bug Pokemon that takes advantage of Swords Dance, high attack, and priority moves, etc. |
Don't listen to Cherii (however, a Salamence could do your team a favour), Cloyster's an awesome choice of Pokemon.
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Also.. you're not using any of the suggestions we gave you for the other three pokemon? |
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Cloyster is Stealth Rock weak, vulnerable to Toxic Spikes, and Spikes. It's a terrible Rapid Spinner. It's really only viable in UU. Try to limit your SR weak Pokemon to only two on your team. As Cherii suggested, read the stickies and learn more about the OU metagame. If you'd rather use your underpowered favorites, try out the UU metagame. Even there, some of your favorites may not be viable. |
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So I wanted to make a gimmicky yet still usable team based around Sandstorm, but I have a feeling I'm doing it wrong...here's what I have so far:
[email protected] Impish 6 HP 252 Def 252 Spec Def Stealth Rock Crunch Slack Off Earthquake Comments: Starter for SR and an all around tank. [email protected] Powder Sand Veil Adamant 106 HP 152 Attack 252 Def Aerial Ace Ice Fang Roost U-turn Comments: Scouter and anti-fighting. Bright Powder + Sand Veil = lots of evasion and Aerial Ace and Ice fang let him do damage while U-Turn is handy for a quick escape and damage against Psychics. [email protected] Naive 6 HP 252 Attack 252 Speed Sucker Punch Substitute Leech Seed Seed Bomb Comments: I've been rocked by this build before (although I'm not sure on the EVs), Brightpowder and Sand Veil help it avoid damage enough to set up even if it's outspeeded, once it does it can sweep fairly well. Empoleon Unsure of my setup. I really do need a water type on the team, and with the Steel type making it resistant against the Sandstorm, this one fits the bill, however I'm unsure on how to build it. Right now I have it with Brick Break, Ice Beam, and 252 Def EVs but nothing else. It's going to be my anti-dragon sweeper and brick breaker, but I'm kind of unsure on how to finish him up. [email protected] Calm 252 HP 252 Spec Def 6 Def Rapid Spin Light Screen Reflect (?) Explode Commentary: My special sponge and rapid spinner...I like light screen as it covers most of my other guys having lax special defense, but I'm considering replacing Reflect with another offensive move so I don't get out-stalled, but I'm not really sure what...another Earthquake isn't really what I need. My last slot is up in the air, I'm thinking Tyranitar for the 2nd Sand Stream and the sweeper factor, but I'm unsure which build to give him. Considering I'm Gyarados weak, I also considered Magnezone, but again unsure how to build him. I'm still pretty new to this team building thing, especially with the EVs, so thanks in advance for the help. |
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