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Jimmyray August 30th, 2009 6:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Blazing Pryde (Post 5054690)
No, hatched pokemon are always at level five. I don't think there is a way to get the level any lower than that.
Also, I've cloned and tested pokemon on Emerald. Evolving them earlier or later does not change their stats at any given level (two level 50 Metagross clones will have the same stats, even if one is evolved asap and the other is evolved at level fifty).
Unless you're trying to get in a move that only the evolution can learn, there's no need to rush.

No, in D/P/Pt they're level 1? Lol. Also I don't mean cloning in Emerald, I mean levelling up in Platinum. Thanks though? Lol

Jake♫ August 30th, 2009 7:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 5054600)
Is there any way I can breed an Exeggcute with Sleep Powder on it at Lv:1? I want to give it a Leaf Stone straight away so it doesn't lose exp. :(

If you breed it with another Pokemon who knows Sleep Powder as well as the Exectutor (I'm assuming) you're breeding with, it should have Sleep Powder when it hatches.

wolf August 30th, 2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5054479)
Are you guys sure? SDLuke's I imagine will pack Jolly nature since it's already getting Attack boosts from SD. And if he's running Choice Band I'd also expect Jolly. I also figured that Fire Punch on Gallade can OHKO Scizor after the LO bosst and he can survive a Choice Banded Bullet Punch but he will be seriously dented.

Like Chaos said, you miss out on a lot of KOs when using Crunch against Celebi and the like. It also adds more power on hitting faster foes with ExtremeSpeed (which he will be using to sweep majority of the time). Also:
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Originally Posted by Shoddy Statistics
| Lucario | Nature | Adamant | 60.8 |
| Lucario | Nature | Jolly | 21.5 |
| Lucario | Nature | Other (5) | < 6.4 |

Choice Band Scizor's Bullet Punch has a 20% chance of OHKOing after Stealth Rock damage. :|

591 Atk vs 166 Def & 277 HP (60 Base Power): 229 - 271 (82.67% - 97.83%)

After Life Orb recoil, Gallade would probably have fainted by then.

Jimmyray August 30th, 2009 4:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake♫ (Post 5054955)
If you breed it with another Pokemon who knows Sleep Powder as well as the Exectutor (I'm assuming) you're breeding with, it should have Sleep Powder when it hatches.

Ah. So atm I am breeding a male Bulbasaur w/Sleep Powder with a female Exeggcute. If I get the Exeggcute to learn Sleep Powder too, it will work? Thanks :)

Skip Shot August 30th, 2009 4:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 5057735)
Ah. So atm I am breeding a male Bulbasaur w/Sleep Powder with a female Exeggcute. If I get the Exeggcute to learn Sleep Powder too, it will work? Thanks :)

The male passes on the egg moves iirc, so just having the Bulbasaur is fine. Also, if both Pokemon have a similar move (i.e. both have Leech Seed) I believe that the baby will hatch with that move as well. So you could have an exeggcute baby with Uproar/Hypnosis, Barrage/Hypnosis, Leech Seed, and Sleep Powder.

Jimmyray August 30th, 2009 4:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Shot (Post 5057851)
The male passes on the egg moves iirc, so just having the Bulbasaur is fine. Also, if both Pokemon have a similar move (i.e. both have Leech Seed) I believe that the baby will hatch with that move as well. So you could have an exeggcute baby with Uproar/Hypnosis, Barrage/Hypnosis, Leech Seed, and Sleep Powder.

But the eggs that I bred using the Bulbasaur so far have just been Hypnosis/Barrage/Uproar!

Skip Shot August 30th, 2009 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmyray (Post 5057926)
But the eggs that I bred using the Bulbasaur so far have just been Hypnosis/Barrage/Uproar!

Does the Bulbasaur have Sleep Powder? If not, it might because Exeggcute can learn Sleep Powder at level 13. So then, you would have to have Sleep Powder on both Pokemon.

Chaostorm August 31st, 2009 3:18 AM

you might change the Item of your Gallade to Choice Scarf to turn the Gladiator warrior into a revenge Killer
( Jolly is good for +400 Spe assuming Choice Scarf but if you used Adamant , you will be Outsped by Mence and Gyara after a Dragon Dance ) , or completely change the Gallade into Physical Azelf I posted earlier :

Azelf @ Choice Band / Choice Scarf
Nature : Adamant / Jolly
Trait : Levitate
EVs : 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
-U-turn / Trick
-Zen Headbutt
-Explosion
-Ice Punch / Fire Punch

use Adamant if you're going to give this dude Scarf , or Jolly if you're gonna use Choice Band , if you wanna the freedom to attack , you can use Life Orb on him with Jolly Nature ( and not to mention that its Explosion is deadly for him being Speedy )

EDIT : is it wise to use Gligar as a Lead in UU ? ( since it seems an Inferior Gliscor )

Jimmyray August 31st, 2009 4:00 AM

Ok, I'll try it with both of them knowing it. Thanks everyone :)

xXI JOE IXx August 31st, 2009 6:59 AM

Is Garchomp Uber?
 
I am working on a team for wi-fi battling, and I need a ground pokemon so I thought Garchomp would be good, but this website said tha it is. Is this right or wrong? This was updated in 2008 so I am not sure if he is still classed as uber. Thanks :)

Dark Azelf August 31st, 2009 7:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xXI JOE IXx (Post 5060221)
I am working on a team for wi-fi battling, and I need a ground pokemon so I thought Garchomp would be good, but this website said tha it is. Is this right or wrong? This was updated in 2008 so I am not sure if he is still classed as uber. Thanks :)

Yes, its still uber nothing has changed since that.

However it, like all the suspects are currently being tested on the suspect ladder on smogon to see how it effects the metagame now.

FreakyLocz14 August 31st, 2009 8:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wolFLARE (Post 5056325)
Choice Band Scizor's Bullet Punch has a 20% chance of OHKOing after Stealth Rock damage. :|

591 Atk vs 166 Def & 277 HP (60 Base Power): 229 - 271 (82.67% - 97.83%)

After Life Orb recoil, Gallade would probably have fainted by then.

Witout Life Orb recoil Bullet Punch wouldn't 2K0, and I'll just Lunar Dance Gallade back in using Cresselia ior if I need it later I also have a WishPasser too.

On the other hand I experimented with Expert Belt to avoid LO recoil and here's the results I got when Jolly Gallade hit's back with Fire Punch using the CB Scizor EV spread from Smogon.

349 Atk vs 236 Def & 343 HP (75 Base Power): 384 - 456 (111.95% - 132.94%)

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Originally Posted by Chaostorm (Post 5059771)
you might change the Item of your Gallade to Choice Scarf to turn the Gladiator warrior into a revenge Killer
( Jolly is good for +400 Spe assuming Choice Scarf but if you used Adamant , you will be Outsped by Mence and Gyara after a Dragon Dance ) , or completely change the Gallade into Physical Azelf I posted earlier :

Azelf @ Choice Band / Choice Scarf
Nature : Adamant / Jolly
Trait : Levitate
EVs : 252 Atk / 252 Spe / 4 HP
-U-turn / Trick
-Zen Headbutt
-Explosion
-Ice Punch / Fire Punch

use Adamant if you're going to give this dude Scarf , or Jolly if you're gonna use Choice Band , if you wanna the freedom to attack , you can use Life Orb on him with Jolly Nature ( and not to mention that its Explosion is deadly for him being Speedy )

EDIT : is it wise to use Gligar as a Lead in UU ? ( since it seems an Inferior Gliscor )

Yes and also seeing that Jolly Gallade can still OHKO Luke with a CC boosted by Expert Belt or Life Orb I decided to go with Jolly. If I use Azelf it will most likely replace Girafarig. Yes, Girafarig has been useful with STAB Return and can revenge kill something (esp Ghosts and fellow Psychics) with that or Sucker Punch but it has benn limited to just that mostly I'll see if replacing Wish with EQ can dent Steels enough to warant losing Wish support as well, The next phase in the expiriment is to see what hapeens if I replace Girafarig with Azelf and Bronzong with Metagross and also move Starmie to the lead with an Anti-Lead set Pokedra suggested.

And P.S. about Gilgar just watch out I'd most likely use the best lead Gliscor set and transfer the same set to Gilgar and go from there.

natedogg August 31st, 2009 11:22 AM

For a UU team what makes a better rock polisher Torterra or Relicanth?

Aurafire August 31st, 2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by natedogg (Post 5060928)
For a UU team what makes a better rock polisher Torterra or Relicanth?

Torterra has higher base Attack and Speed (and arguably better typing), so he's probably the better choice unless you have a specific reason to use Relicanth.

wolf August 31st, 2009 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5060465)
Witout Life Orb recoil Bullet Punch wouldn't 2K0, and I'll just Lunar Dance Gallade back in using Cresselia ior if I need it later I also have a WishPasser too.

Like what my calculation showed, after Stealth Rock damage, you have a 20% chance of being OHKOed (switching back into Stealth Rock damage, or LO recoil secures the KO). I don't know how it doesn't 2HKO. Dx You don't want to stay in on Scizor at all, taking around 90% from Scizor is too much. :| Switching back to Cresselia, Lunar Dancing, and switching back to Gallade is a bad idea because after another Stealth Rock damage, you will faint (Lunar Dance does not work before entry hazard damage). And you're losing Cresselia in the process. LO Adamant Close Combat also has a 40% chance of OHKOing Scizor after SR damage: 383 Atk vs 236 Def & 343 HP (120 Base Power): 271 - 321 (79.01% - 93.59%). Jolly doesn't OHKO though, and Expert Belt Jolly does even worse.

I still think hitting Gliscor is much more important than hitting Scizor who OHKOs Gallade before it can even use a move.

FreakyLocz14 August 31st, 2009 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wolFLARE (Post 5063097)
Like what my calculation showed, after Stealth Rock damage, you have a 20% chance of being OHKOed (switching back into Stealth Rock damage, or LO recoil secures the KO). I don't know how it doesn't 2HKO. Dx You don't want to stay in on Scizor at all, taking around 90% from Scizor is too much. :| Switching back to Cresselia, Lunar Dancing, and switching back to Gallade is a bad idea because after another Stealth Rock damage, you will faint (Lunar Dance does not work before entry hazard damage). And you're losing Cresselia in the process. LO Adamant Close Combat also has a 40% chance of OHKOing Scizor after SR damage: 383 Atk vs 236 Def & 343 HP (120 Base Power): 271 - 321 (79.01% - 93.59%). Jolly doesn't OHKO though, and Expert Belt Jolly does even worse.

I still think hitting Gliscor is much more important than hitting Scizor who OHKOs Gallade before it can even use a move.

I already have 2 Ice Beamers already so Gliscor isn't a threat. Most likely I can get rid of Fire Punch for Stone Edge to deal with Gyara and any other flyings or fires if Alakazam is out of the game already. If Starmie has already spun away the rocks that would help. Gah I'm always Scizor weak whenever I try and make a Psychic team. Cresselia isn't of any use after all the enemy Mence is fainted after than her purpose is Lunar Dance support. I'll just do a special Azelf w/Flamethrower and see if that puts Scizor at bay since I already have 2 Physical attackers (Gallade and Metagross) or maybe even a Mixed Azelf any good sets for a Mix Azelf?

Dusk252 September 1st, 2009 2:17 AM

Offensive Raikou or Substitute + Calm Mind?
 
I'm going to EV train a Timid Raikou and I need to know what would be the more effective version of it as an individual Pokémon.

Pokedra September 1st, 2009 3:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dusk252 (Post 5063600)
I'm going to EV train a Timid Raikou and I need to know what would be the more effective version of it as an individual Pokémon.

Raikou @ Leftovers
Nature : Timid
EV : 68 HP / 116 SpA / 72 SpD / 252 Spe
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power Ice / Hidden Power Grass

^ Basically setup a sub on something that can't hurt you and start CMing up. Once you have a 2-3 you can start sweeping =]

Ultraviolence September 1st, 2009 5:30 AM

I need help with my team, I have a Infernape, Empoleon and Roserade ready, but need help with movesets, and my last 3 members.

wolf September 1st, 2009 6:03 AM

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Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5063244)
I already have 2 Ice Beamers already so Gliscor isn't a threat.

K.
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Originally Posted by FreakyLocz14 (Post 5063244)
I'll just do a special Azelf w/Flamethrower and see if that puts Scizor at bay since I already have 2 Physical attackers (Gallade and Metagross) or maybe even a Mixed Azelf any good sets for a Mix Azelf?

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/0d/Spr_4p_482.png@ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 8 HP / 180 Atk / 104 SpA / 216 Spe
Naive Nature (+ Spe / - SpD)
- Zen Headbutt
- Fire Blast
- Grass Knot
- Taunt / Explosion

Fire Blast 2HKOs Bronzong and the steels (no SR up). Grass Knot helps deal damage against Swampert, Hippowdon, etc. Taunt is helpful against stall and Baton Pass teams. Explosion can also be used. Psychic is also a pretty nice to hit on both sides. You need to weaken Blissey a small amount because Zen Headbutt doesn't fully 2HKO (this is Calm Blissey too). HP EVs allow Azelf to survive a Choice Band Scizor's Bullet Punch, and the Speed EVs lets it outrun Timid Gengar. This is basically a stall breaker, you just need to weaken Blissey some, and get rid of Spiritomb.

Also, if you are able to have SR up, you can use an alternative spread: 8 HP / 244 Atk / 40 SpA / 216 Spe, it 2HKOs Bronzong with SR up.

Lady Gaga September 1st, 2009 7:10 AM

Can Togekiss or Clefable learn Taunt?

Chaostorm September 1st, 2009 7:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Gaga (Post 5064257)
Can Togekiss or Clefable learn Taunt?

No , Both Togekiss and Clefable cannot learn Taunt ....

Lady Gaga September 1st, 2009 3:57 PM

Ive got a team I want to post here, but it is a Double Battle team. It is called Gagagigas (its a Regigias team, and the base of it was created by Gigatitan, but I have tweaked it alot to make my own...only 2 or 3 Pokemon stayed the same). So, would i be able to post it in this forum, cuz usually all i see are Single Battle RMTs.
Here is what it would look like, the title:

Gagagigas (DB RMT)

Is this okay!?

Dark Azelf September 1st, 2009 4:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady Gaga (Post 5065983)
Ive got a team I want to post here, but it is a Double Battle team. It is called Gagagigas (its a Regigias team, and the base of it was created by Gigatitan, but I have tweaked it alot to make my own...only 2 or 3 Pokemon stayed the same). So, would i be able to post it in this forum, cuz usually all i see are Single Battle RMTs.
Here is what it would look like, the title:

Gagagigas (DB RMT)

Is this okay!?

Yah but use THIS thread for them.

Lady Gaga September 1st, 2009 4:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 5066042)
Yah but use THIS thread for them.

But its not imcomplete or anything. I just need it to be reviewed, like all other complete teams here. Why are DB teams getting neglected!? T_T


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