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luke February 23rd, 2009 9:26 AM

Breeding Questions
 
Soon, the Breeder's Corner sub forum will be gone. Instead, we'll be moving all breeding inquiries into this sticky. Why you ask? Because threads in that forum tend to attract massive amounts of SPAM and people answering the question over and over with no new information. Instead, we'll focus on quick answering methods like in the Request a Move Set and the Simple Q&A thread.

What's acceptable in this thread. Here are some examples:
  • How do you get <insert egg move> on <random Pokemon>?
  • Why isn't <Pokemon> breeding with <Pokemon>?
  • What item do I need to breed <Pokemon>?

Questions about soft resetting are also acceptable here.

Here's a rundown of some of the more common questions:
  • Can you breed a Shiny Pokemon from Shiny Parents? The Answer is No.
  • How does one pass on TM from parent to child? The Father must know the move and the child must be capable of learning the TM.

There will be more covered in the Breeding FAQ I am working on, so stay tuned.

White Lotus March 2nd, 2009 2:01 AM

Heya guys, I'm sad to see the Breeder's Corner go.

I had a post in the BC about my breeding in anticipation for Platinum but never got a chance to see any responses so i'll post the question again.

I'm about to start breeding a Vaporeon for my WiFi team in Platinum and i'm going with Wish Support version, Bold ~ (*Surf / *Toxic / *Protect / *Wish). If i were to luck out and get a +65 *HP Electric than i would probably go with that over *Toxic but for now it's looking like the set above.

Now i use my old Emerald technique via Dittos passing on 31 IVs so i can get 3 Flawless IVs on both parents to maximize my chances of getting good IVs for my other less desirable stats. So my question is which 3 stats should i focus on getting 31 in?

Right now i'm leaning towards Bold ~ 31 HP / 31 Def / 31 SDf. Am i missing out on maximizing my EV's though if i do it this way since i will need to use an exact Speed number to outspeed certain pokes? Smogon has the EV spread as 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Speed so getting anything less than a 31 IV in Speed would result in me losing EVs in HP or not outspeeding certain pokes which would not be cool at all.

Obviously HP / Def must be 31 but should my 3rd flawless be Special Defense or Speed?

Any thoughts?

Eon-Rider March 2nd, 2009 2:57 AM

Quote:

Can you breed a Shiny Pokemon from Shiny Parents? The Answer is No.
You should probably rephrase that question since you're making it sound like it's impossible to get a shiny Pokemon from shiny parents even though it's entirely possible.

Paradox Dragonite March 2nd, 2009 5:43 PM

White Lotus: I see Special defense being more of a priority considering Vaporeon is most often a Bulky Water. It doesn't need the speed IV to do its job based on the EVs. Go with the plan you have now.

White Lotus March 2nd, 2009 7:17 PM

Thanks Paradox, that's what i was thinking but i don't know the Speed Tiers as well as i did in 3rd Gen so i wanted to make sure there wasn't a specific speed i had to have in order to outspeed a specific threat.

Paradox Dragonite March 2nd, 2009 7:23 PM

Hm, well, Vaporeon isn't going to be sweeping or Baton Passing, so the speed is a moot point, I think. However, Smogon DOES say to use the Speed, so it can outpace CB Metagross and Skarmory. If you think these may be a threat, you can consider getting that 31 Speed IV over Special Defense.

jigglyppuff8 March 2nd, 2009 7:28 PM

Since IVs determined if a Pokemon were shiny or not in Gen II, does that mean there'd be at least an increased chance of breeding for a shiny in G/S/C?

Tinhead Bruce March 2nd, 2009 7:34 PM

Yeah, if one parent is shiny I think the odds are 1/64, and the odds of getting a shiny poke from breeding was much greater than now. But.... isn't that kind of an odd question to ask considering you can't even trade G/S/C pokes to 3rd gen or 4th gen?

But for my own question: I'm breeding a shinx (don't ask why =p), and I'm planning on using the Mixed Attacker set that Smogon has for Luxray, which in case you don't know is:


Rash/Naive
Intimidate
EVs: 120 Atk/ 252 SpA/ 136 Spe
Moveset:
Thunderbolt
Return (I'm using this instead of HP Grass, I'm not that advanced at IV breeding)
Crunch
Ice Fang


Anyways, all the other moves I can handle on my currently bred Shinx:
Naïve #403 Shinx: 13 / 29 / 23 / 31 / 9 / 31


Now, can anyone help me figure out a chain of breeding to get said move (Ice Fang) onto Shinx while still keeping the IVs intact? Thanks!

Paradox Dragonite March 2nd, 2009 7:42 PM

I think Jigg's question might belong in the 2nd Gen forum. ^^
It's good to note, though, that it's impossible to breed TWO shiny Pokemon together, since their DVs are too similar.

jigglyppuff8 March 2nd, 2009 8:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradox Dragonite (Post 4402407)
I think Jigg's question might belong in the 2nd Gen forum. ^^
It's good to note, though, that it's impossible to breed TWO shiny Pokemon together, since their DVs are too similar.

...There's a 2nd Gen forum? Anyway, thanks. That also answered my un-asked question of 8 years of why parents and offspring couldn't breed in Gen II.

Paradox Dragonite March 2nd, 2009 8:39 PM

Haha, I really think it shouldn't be allowed anyway.

But actually, parents and offspring CAN breed, it's just you can't breed two shinies together. This includes if one parents and the offspring are both shiny. =3

And by 2nd gen, I meant the RBY and GSC forum. < _< I'm still new here, after all.

White Lotus March 4th, 2009 12:25 AM

Dammit, i just hatched a shiny Eevee and it was on the first round of breeding so its stats are hot garbage - totally random. One of its parents is a 31 Def Ditto ----> Yuck.

After crunching numbers he looks like...

~SHINY~
Eevee - Male - Lv. 5
'Run Away' - Makes escaping easier.
Gentle <+SDf / -Def>
IVs: HP 9 / Att 18 / Def 22 / SAt 17 / SDf 4 / Spd 14
Hidden Power: Rock <38>
* Tackle
* Tail Whip
* Helping Hand
* Wish

Freaking Gross. What a Waste. It is on Emerald so i can clone but who would want this clunker?

Sorry if this isn't the place for this but i would've taken it to Breeder's Corner so just lemme know for future reference.

Any other thoughts about the whole Special Defense vs Speed for last 31 IV question? I'm leaning pretty hard towards Special Defense at the moment.

fishyfins March 4th, 2009 6:55 AM

hey there. im just breeding shuckles for a team im making. not competative, just for fun. but i want them to be good, so i wanted decent IVs. i just hatched there two, but dont know which one would be better. here are the IVs

19, 24, 30, 12, 31, 13 (Sassy male)
27, 15, 30, 17, 29, 9 (Sassy female)

i know the male has better sp.atk, but the female has higher hp, and has higher stats overall i guess. which one would be better as a general defense shuckle?

thanks
Fishy

dark_seeker March 4th, 2009 7:10 AM

definatly the Female as you dont need sp.att on shuckle lol..
@white lotus...Bad luck on the shiny..though id say go all out on sp.defnece!

As for my qustion..Anyone know a good guide to learn how to iv breed?please post the link,thanks in adv.

luke March 4th, 2009 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishyfins (Post 4405729)
hey there. im just breeding shuckles for a team im making. not competative, just for fun. but i want them to be good, so i wanted decent IVs. i just hatched there two, but dont know which one would be better. here are the IVs

19, 24, 30, 12, 31, 13 (Sassy male)
27, 15, 30, 17, 29, 9 (Sassy female)

i know the male has better sp.atk, but the female has higher hp, and has higher stats overall i guess. which one would be better as a general defense shuckle?

thanks
Fishy

Shuckle doesn't need Special Attack, so definitely go with the female.

Silver Yutaka March 8th, 2009 1:29 PM

is it posible to get infernape to know heatwave and if so how?

"Shadow Lugia" March 14th, 2009 7:18 PM

^It can learn in two ways:
-If the father is a Torkoal that knows Heat Wave or
-From one of the Platinum Move Tutors

I have a question, as well.

I've been breeding for a Cyndaquil, and I think I might have found a good one. Should I use it, or should I keep breeding? Here's the info:

Nature: Modest
IVs: 31/19/21/26/18/26

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this.

Jake♫ March 14th, 2009 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Shadow Lugia" (Post 4436008)
^It can learn in two ways:
-If the father is a Torkoal that knows Heat Wave or
-From one of the Platinum Move Tutors

I have a question, as well.

I've been breeding for a Cyndaquil, and I think I might have found a good one. Should I use it, or should I keep breeding? Here's the info:

Nature: Modest
IVs: 31/19/21/26/18/26

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this.

I'd honesty recommend re-breeding it. You are going to want 31s in speed and special attack. I would recommend using it as a parent though.

Xebelleon March 14th, 2009 7:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silver Yutaka (Post 4418726)
is it posible to get infernape to know heatwave and if so how?

-Platinum Tutor
-Torkoal direct
-Smeargle for the win, dude
-an Egg move HEAT WAVE Vulpix (Torkoal + Vulpix/Ninetales)

Ninja Caterpie March 14th, 2009 8:12 PM

Hey, is it possible to get both Drill Peck and Whirlwind on a Skarmory at once (in 3rd Gen)? If so, how?

jigglyppuff8 March 14th, 2009 8:25 PM

No, it's not. There isn't a Pokemon in Gen III that can breed with Skarmory and have both Drill Peck and Whirlwind at the same time.

"Shadow Lugia" March 15th, 2009 11:27 AM

I've got another Cyndaquil. Should I just use it, or should I use to breed for a better one?

Nature: Modest
IVs:26/19/27/26/31/26

Dark Azelf March 15th, 2009 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Caterpie (Post 4436138)
Hey, is it possible to get both Drill Peck and Whirlwind on a Skarmory at once (in 3rd Gen)? If so, how?

None do, so you are either stuck with one of the below : -

1.Whirlwind + Hidden Power Flying (or Steel Wing)

2.Roar + Drill Peck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Shadow Lugia" (Post 4437820)
I've got another Cyndaquil. Should I just use it, or should I use to breed for a better one?

Nature: Modest
IVs:26/19/27/26/31/26

Yep id say thats good enough.

"Shadow Lugia" March 15th, 2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 4437843)
Yep id say thats good enough.

Thanks. I have one more question, though. I'm not sure If I should use it for singles or doubles. I was originaly going to use it for a Sunny Day team in doubles, but I've discovered that it has HP 70 Water, and it seems a shame to let that go to waste.

Tinhead Bruce March 15th, 2009 11:42 AM

Rebreed. As Jake said before, you are definitely going to want to rebreed it, but use it as a parent. On a side-note, I've got a male Houndoom with 31 IVs in Speed and Sp. atk I could give you if you wanted.

"Shadow Lugia" March 24th, 2009 2:03 PM

Should I keep this Giratina (O)?

Nature: Mild
IVs: 21/19/12/29/29/28

dark_seeker March 25th, 2009 3:23 AM

Quote:

Should I keep this Giratina (O)?

Nature: Mild
IVs: 21/19/12/29/29/28
I think you should.I mean it has decnt ivs but the nature might be a bit of a let down.

Edit :
Can squirtle have the following egg moves on 1 set?
Haze/yawn/Fake out?
If not what combinatios and how?

.Ozymandias March 25th, 2009 11:49 AM

Does the Hold-Everstone-while -breeding trick work only for Dittos? I've been trying to breed for an adamant Beldum from my adamant Metagross holding an Everstone, but I've hatched 43 eggs and got no adamant ones at all.

Dark Azelf March 25th, 2009 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celuthea (Post 4466051)
Does the Hold-Everstone-while -breeding trick work only for Dittos? I've been trying to breed for an adamant Beldum from my adamant Metagross holding an Everstone, but I've hatched 43 eggs and got no adamant ones at all.

Ditto's and Female pokemon.

I dont think it works for non gender pokes iirc.

Tinhead Bruce March 25th, 2009 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark_seeker (Post 4465132)
I think you should.I mean it has decnt ivs but the nature might be a bit of a let down.

Edit :
Can squirtle have the following egg moves on 1 set?
Haze/yawn/Fake out?
If not what combinations and how?

Nah, I don't believe it can.

Quote:

Originally Posted by celuthea (Post 4466051)
Does the Hold-Everstone-while -breeding trick work only for Dittos? I've been trying to breed for an adamant Beldum from my adamant Metagross holding an Everstone, but I've hatched 43 eggs and got no adamant ones at all.

Dittos and Females. Is your Adamant Metagross male or female?


EDIT: Darn, beat to it.

.Ozymandias March 26th, 2009 2:12 AM

*headdesk* Alrighty, thanks for the replies! Just one other query, I know to get Trick onto Spoink you need to chain breed, which parents do I need to start with?

You're Gonna Go Far Kid! March 28th, 2009 10:29 AM

How can I get HP fighting onto my Glaceon?

Alternative March 29th, 2009 3:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celuthea (Post 4468430)
*headdesk* Alrighty, thanks for the replies! Just one other query, I know to get Trick onto Spoink you need to chain breed, which parents do I need to start with?

For Trick Spoink, you'll need to breed a Mr. Mime with a Spinda, and then the Spinda with Trick with a Spoink or Grumpig.

That's the quickest method I can think of.

hank jones March 29th, 2009 3:31 PM

How do you breed elekid that knows cross chop, fire punch, and ice punch???
I tried like 100 times but i never got it right... please tell me!!!

"Shadow Lugia" March 29th, 2009 8:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hank jones (Post 4480996)
How do you breed elekid that knows cross chop, fire punch, and ice punch???
I tried like 100 times but i never got it right... please tell me!!!

1. Get a Male Medicham and use the move relearner to teach it Fire Punch and Ice Punch
2. Breed it with a Machop/Machoke/Machamp to get a male Machop that knows both moves
3. Level up the Machop until it learns Cross Chop (lv. 37)
4. Breed it with an Electabuzz/Electivire

Fierce. March 29th, 2009 9:17 PM

Noobie question here.
How do i teach my pokemon egg moves? i understand you have to breed Pokemon in some way but i am clueless as to how. So if someone could help that would be great. Thanks.

nofudgeplz March 30th, 2009 5:06 PM

^ ok so once you have your 2 pokemon you want to breed heres what u do:

1 make sure the dad has the required move
2 make sure the offspring can learn that move you want
3 breed your 2 pokemon
4 voila

Fierce. March 30th, 2009 5:21 PM

Then how do you teach pichu volt tackle if Pikachu cant learn it?

Alternative March 30th, 2009 5:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fierce. (Post 4484687)
Then how do you teach pichu volt tackle if Pikachu cant learn it?

You must Breed a Pikachu that is holding a Light Ball to get Pichu with Volt Tackle.

GFA April 3rd, 2009 9:39 AM

A girl and guy Pikachu. You can't use a Ditto

"Shadow Lugia" April 6th, 2009 3:34 PM

Should I use this for a Porygon2? I'm leaning highly towards using it:
Ability: Trace
Nature: Modest
IVs: 30/15/31/23/31/13
SA could be a bit better, but it's not meant to be a sweeper.

The Kidd April 7th, 2009 6:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Shadow Lugia" (Post 4510190)
Should I use this for a Porygon2? I'm leaning highly towards using it:
Ability: Trace
Nature: Modest
IVs: 30/15/31/23/31/13
SA could be a bit better, but it's not meant to be a sweeper.

Actually, if you are going to use the Charge Beam set it is meant to be a sweeper therefore it will need Sp.A to get the highest SpA possible since its stat will not be maxed.

With the Trick Room set you can use that Porygon since you will be using Choice Specs which will increase the SpA by a lot, but its rather better if you have higher SpA.

Not a bad Porygon, if I may say so myself.

Lt. Silver April 8th, 2009 6:17 PM

Have most chain breeds been discovered or is it possible that pokemon can learn moves that people don't know they can learn through long chain breeds?

MewMisaki April 9th, 2009 4:37 AM

Heatran, naive

10/30/28-29/26/24-25/28 speed last

should I keep this or continue resetting? :s

/edit: thank you, I've kept it.

Archer April 9th, 2009 4:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MewMisaki (Post 4518331)
Heatran, naive

10/30/28-29/26/24-25/28 speed last

should I keep this or continue resetting? :s

Hey, it looks pretty good, but keep in mind you won't be outspeeding flawless Speed ScarfTrans, aside from that, you don't have much to worry about. It depends on the aforementioned and whether or not you're prepared to keep going. I'd take those IVs.

"Shadow Lugia" April 9th, 2009 7:10 PM

I've been IV breeding for a DD Kingdra for a few days, and I might have a good one. Should I use it?
Nature: Adamant
IVs: 25/31/4/23/11/31

gryyf April 10th, 2009 9:36 AM

what weird matches of pokemon can you breed on diamond and pearl??

pkmnmaster69 April 10th, 2009 11:35 AM

Hey you guys, are there ivs good for my naive natured Azelf which i SR for recently

IVs: 5/25/11/31/29/31

The Hero Without a Name April 10th, 2009 11:42 AM

Those IV's are awesome. Keep it.

ethanftw April 12th, 2009 9:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkmnmaster69 (Post 4523668)
Hey you guys, are there ivs good for my naive natured Azelf which i SR for recently

IVs: 5/25/11/31/29/31

nearly perfect IV's, keep it

Quote:

Originally Posted by gryyf (Post 4523316)
what weird matches of pokemon can you breed on diamond and pearl??

define "weird" lol, just saying weird matches doesnt really lead to anything specific

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Shadow Lugia" (Post 4521307)
I've been IV breeding for a DD Kingdra for a few days, and I might have a good one. Should I use it?
Nature: Adamant
IVs: 25/31/4/23/11/31

to my knowledge, this isnt PERFECT IV's but its still not lacking in anyway, if i were you i'd just keep it

nofudgeplz April 12th, 2009 11:56 AM

hey can sum1 plz help =(

when i breed a sczizor (shiny) with an adament ditto (also shiny) and i use the everstone when i breed them i dont get any adament scythers. ive been breeding for a while now and so far no adament scythers. can sum1 tell me what wrong?

jigglyppuff8 April 12th, 2009 12:04 PM

Your ditto should be holding the everstone. That allows it to have a 50% chance of passing down its nature.
Also, don't expect any shiny eggs. Breeding shinies together doesn't increase the odds of that happening.

nofudgeplz April 12th, 2009 3:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jigglyppuff8 (Post 4532705)
Your ditto should be holding the everstone. That allows it to have a 50% chance of passing down its nature.
Also, don't expect any shiny eggs. Breeding shinies together doesn't increase the odds of that happening.

no i know it doesnt incrase the chance of a shiny im just saying. and my ditto is holding the everstone and its not working =(

The Kidd April 12th, 2009 6:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nofudgeplz (Post 4533522)
no i know it doesnt incrase the chance of a shiny im just saying. and my ditto is holding the everstone and its not working =(

It must be the Scizor, sometimes the nature doesn't pass because one of the parents is affecting it not to. In this case its your Scizor.

Alternative April 12th, 2009 7:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Kidd (Post 4534351)
It must be the Scizor, sometimes the nature doesn't pass because one of the parents is affecting it not to. In this case its your Scizor.

Actually, the Ditto or the female of the breeding pair must hold the everstone, in order of the 50% chance of passing down the nature is going to work. If you want an Adamant Scyther baby, your Scizor must be Female with Adamant nature, or your Ditto must have adamant nature. This doesnt mean that you will get Adamant Scyther, just a good chance.

nofudgeplz April 12th, 2009 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Kidd (Post 4534351)
It must be the Scizor, sometimes the nature doesn't pass because one of the parents is affecting it not to. In this case its your Scizor.

how does that work?

fillerfiller

The Kidd April 13th, 2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blakus (Post 4534604)
Actually, the Ditto or the female of the breeding pair must hold the everstone, in order of the 50% chance of passing down the nature is going to work. If you want an Adamant Scyther baby, your Scizor must be Female with Adamant nature, or your Ditto must have adamant nature. This doesnt mean that you will get Adamant Scyther, just a good chance.

He stated that his adamant Ditto was holding the everstone and its not working.
Quote:

Originally Posted by nofudgeplz (Post 4534606)
how does that work?

fillerfiller

With certain pokemon the nature will keep on being random. I know this because it has happened to me a lot. When I try using my Milotic with Azumarill holding an everstone, it will not pass its nature.

If you still need an adamant Scyther I will give you one, just PM me.

Matsu Razu April 20th, 2009 5:32 PM

Okay, I have an MALE Ivysaur [that knows Double Edge] and a MALE and FEMALE Slowpoke [that know Curse].
Is there any way to get a Slowpoke that knows both Double Edge and Curse? I need to get one so I can then breed it with a Snorlax so the Snorlax can have both of them as egg moves.
Sorry if the answer is obvious, I've looked into this a bit but it's still kind of confusing. I'm still kind of new to this... please reply if you know! ;x;

EDIT; Okay. Looks like Slowpoke isn't able to learn Double Edge. So how about this. How do I get Ivysaur's egg [Bulbasaur] to learn Curse? 0:


EDITEDIT; Nevermind, I figured it out! Well, at least I think I did... if not, I'll be coming back here for help. XD

catchemall123 April 20th, 2009 7:53 PM

hey guys i'm pretty new to this whole breeding thing any tips would be help ful?

Alternative April 20th, 2009 8:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catchemall123 (Post 4566836)
hey guys i'm pretty new to this whole breeding thing any tips would be help ful?


Here's a few tips and things to remember about breeding. Other people may expand on this if they wish.

~ You can breed male and female pokemon to get an offspring of the female pokemon, at level 1.
~ In addition, you can use ditto to replace any of the pokemon above, but you will just get an offspring of the pokemon that isn't ditto.
~ Only male pokemon may pass down egg moves, TMs, HMs etc, but only as long as the female of the pokemon can learn the move itself.
~ Only females and Ditto have a 50% chance of passing down the nature, as long as the pokemon with the nature trying to be passed down is holding an everstone.

MewMisaki April 22nd, 2009 12:17 PM

Shaymin, timid
28/26/31/30/30/24 (spd last)
Should I keep this? :s

(speed could be better and the hp-type is fighting, not ice or fire :[
but the other stats are very nice.. difficult choice :s)

Callandor May 3rd, 2009 6:26 PM

Vulpix Egg Move
 
This feels like the right section for this, but if not, feel free to correct me.

Does anyone know if their is a way to make sure a Vulpix will know Energy Ball when it hatches? If so please tell me.

Micro May 3rd, 2009 6:42 PM

Yes, there is a way.

Breed a female Vulpix with a male Nuzleaf, Seedot or Shiftry.
Nuzleaf, Seedot and Shiftry learn it through TM.

Gymnotide May 3rd, 2009 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L O L L I P O P (Post 4609365)
Yes, there is a way.

Breed a female Vulpix with a male Nuzleaf, Seedot or Shiftry.
Nuzleaf, Seedot and Shiftry learn it through TM.

You can also do it through Smeargle, Vulpix or Ninetales already knowing it, Leafeon, Girafarig, and Grumpig.

J-Dubb May 4th, 2009 4:28 PM

Question if i get a t-tar with counter from emerald and transfer it over to platinum and breed it will the lavitar eggs learn counter

jigglyppuff8 May 4th, 2009 4:39 PM

No. Tyranitar is the ONLY one in the evolution line that can learn Counter.

ShinjisLover May 4th, 2009 4:39 PM

^ I don't think you can transfer things to Platinum from Emerald or otherwise.

J-Dubb May 4th, 2009 4:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpp8 (Post 4612232)
No. Tyranitar is the ONLY one in the evolution line that can learn Counter.

Dang well thanks for all the help regardless

jigglyppuff8 May 4th, 2009 4:43 PM

I think you might be forgetting about the Pal Park, ShinjisLover.

ShinjisLover May 4th, 2009 4:51 PM

Ah, right, yeah I did. Well, the answer is still no either way. XD

Tephros May 5th, 2009 6:04 AM

My understanding is that for any offspring, it inherits 3/6 IVs from its parents. The first is any random IV from either parent, the second is any except HP, and the 3rd is any except HP or defense. This makes it harder to pass on HP and Defense IVs... is that correct?

jigglyppuff8 May 5th, 2009 12:51 PM

Yes. While the other 4 stats have a 19.55% chance of being passed down, Defense has a 13.78%, and HP has a 8.02%.

gee2k8 May 8th, 2009 1:18 PM

my recent egg hatching
 
Hello again, simple advice seeking really. I was given Riolu egg from the main story which recently hatched with the following, 'Adamant nature and Inner Focus'
I have seen alot of movesets with these two as priority, i was wondering if this pokemon was worth training as it hasnt got any breeding moves. Any advice on a moveset without egg/breeding moves would help thanks in advance.

Zebra Thunderhead May 8th, 2009 1:28 PM

It's really up to you. As stated in the rules, in game teams don't matter because virtually anything works.

-CLOSED-

Dark Azelf May 8th, 2009 1:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gee2k8 (Post 4624717)
Hello again, simple advice seeking really. I was given Riolu egg from the main story which recently hatched with the following, 'Adamant nature and Inner Focus'
I have seen alot of movesets with these two as priority, i was wondering if this pokemon was worth training as it hasnt got any breeding moves. Any advice on a moveset without egg/breeding moves would help thanks in advance.

*Merges with sticky*

Well if you are planning to use it in competitive battling then i highly suggest you check its ivs to see if they are good. If the rest are bad then you will have to rebreed anyways.

[email protected] Orb
252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 DEF
Adamant Nature
Trait : Inner Focus
- Close Combat
- Swords Dance
- Extremespeed
- Stone Edge / Crunch (if you have bad ivs you might aswell rebreed for this too)/ Ice Punch

gee2k8 May 8th, 2009 3:25 PM

I am pretty new with competitive battles but i am planning to ev train and breed heavily in the next few days. Is getting a pokemon up to lvl 50 the only way to accuratly work out its ivs? as that seems like it could take a long while.

jigglyppuff8 May 8th, 2009 4:48 PM

Actually, it's lv. 100, but yes. That's the only way to check out its IVs accurately.

However, Wi-fi battling does have a feature that automatically raises your Pokemon to lv. 100 for the battle. You could then go on an IV checker like Serebii's and calculate your IVs there. There is a thread in the Wi-fi Center's Battle Stadium set aside just for this purpose.

Fuyu May 10th, 2009 11:26 AM

Hi everyone! I'm new to breeding so I need some help with this.

If I'm trying to get a Cyndaquil, who should I pair with my lvl 100 Typhlosion?

jigglyppuff8 May 10th, 2009 11:37 AM

If it is female, pair it with any male Pokemon in the Ground egg group.

If it is male, pair it with Ditto.

Fuyu May 10th, 2009 12:43 PM

I'll do that. Thanks so much!

Shifter_Go May 10th, 2009 9:23 PM

Okay, so I've been playing for a bit and finally got to the elite four but before going I decided to change my lineup and was looking for a Roserade.
The moveset I'm looking to get on it is Sleep Powder, Sludge Bomb, Leaf Storm and Hidden Power (fire).
Now I may seem a little stupid, but this breeding business confuses the heck out of me.
Can someone explain to me how I would go about getting such a moveset?
The problem is getting sleep powder and leaf storm, right? How can I?

Dark Azelf May 10th, 2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shifter_Go (Post 4631374)
Okay, so I've been playing for a bit and finally got to the elite four but before going I decided to change my lineup and was looking for a Roserade.
The moveset I'm looking to get on it is Sleep Powder, Sludge Bomb, Leaf Storm and Hidden Power (fire).
Now I may seem a little stupid, but this breeding business confuses the heck out of me.
Can someone explain to me how I would go about getting such a moveset?
The problem is getting sleep powder and leaf storm, right? How can I?

Male Exeggcute/Bellsprout (Sleep Powder) ---> Evolve into Victreebel/Exeggutor for Leaf Storm (Both learn in on level 47) ---> Breed onto female in Roserade family.

Sludge Bomb is a TM so thats easy whilst Hidden Power is based on Ivs, read here.

Tephros May 11th, 2009 1:03 AM

ugh, the no-URL thing killed my previous attempt at this post since I quoted a URL, lol.

1. If your pokemon had more than one IV @ 31, is it random which of the multiple possible characteristic phrases you get? For example, if you had all 31s, then the phrase could be, "Often dozes off," "Likes to thrash about," "Capable of taking hits," "Mischevious," "Somewhat vain," or "Alert to sounds." Which is chosen? Or is it random?

2. Not sure if you really have to be at level 100 to confirm that the IVs are at 31. If you check and record the ranges on serebii after each level, and combine the highest minimums with the lowest maximums, you can confirm one value if they're the same number, and I've been able to do it in the lvl 20s. For example, at level 15 you get 20-31, then 15-28, then 28-31. From this, you know the value must be 28. (it's usually not that easy) This only assumes that the serebii ranges are always correct. They seem to be, but I'm not sure.

gee2k8 May 11th, 2009 1:06 PM

Thanks for the reply above, i just have another question about breeding. ..
Is it better to have a team of male pokemon due to the fact that they can pass the tms i give to them to any future pokemon so they are not lost forever or is there a way to pass one use tms from females to other future pokemon?

Tephros May 12th, 2009 1:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gee2k8 (Post 4632799)
Thanks for the reply above, i just have another question about breeding. ..
Is it better to have a team of male pokemon due to the fact that they can pass the tms i give to them to any future pokemon so they are not lost forever or is there a way to pass one use tms from females to other future pokemon?

As far as I know females cannot pass on TM moves. For those TMs that cannot be obtained more than once per game, it's definitely something to consider.

madskil72 May 16th, 2009 4:55 AM

Hi
I'm making a new team for Platinum wifi, and I was just wondering, what do I need to breed with my Empoleon to get a piplup with agility?

Dark Azelf May 16th, 2009 5:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madskil72 (Post 4646054)
Hi
I'm making a new team for Platinum wifi, and I was just wondering, what do I need to breed with my Empoleon to get a piplup with agility?

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/egg/393.shtml#agility

^tells you here, any of those. ^^

§1 May 20th, 2009 7:39 PM

can pokemon learn moves from both parents? like if i were to breed an electabuz that knows ice punch with a machoke with cross chop...would the elekid know both?

also is it possible to breed a metagross?

SoulRed12 May 20th, 2009 7:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by §1 (Post 4659827)
can pokemon learn moves from both parents? like if i were to breed an electabuz that knows ice punch with a machoke with cross chop...would the elekid know both?

also is it possible to breed a metagross?

Egg moves and tm moves can only be passed from the father. But in this case, why not get a female electabuz and a male machoke, and teach machoke cross chop and ice punch? Then the resulting elekid could have both.

Beldum (metagross's first form) can only breed with ditto.

ray236 May 27th, 2009 3:06 PM

ok im new to iv breeding and im not sure if these iv`s are any good

all of these are ralts

female,serious-30/31/19/13/24/31
female,naughty-6/14/3/2/23/31
female,jolly-7/5/29/31/23/31
female,docile-13/31/23/2/31/9
male,naughty-18/14/4/23/6/31
male,naughty-5/22/27/21/23/31

Pikapikapower May 30th, 2009 12:09 PM

31 is the max for IVs. So some are good and some are max.

timekaiser June 3rd, 2009 3:23 PM

How do i get hatched pokemon to hatch with special moves like Volt Tackle on Pichu?

Detox June 3rd, 2009 6:11 PM

To get a Pichu with Volt Tackle, you must breed a Pikachu that is holding a Light Ball, and the Pichu that hatches will have Volt Tackle.

Egg moves can be obtained by breeding a male pokemon with the move you want the offspring to know
with a female of the species of the pokemon you want. For example:

Lets say you want the Elemental Punches on a Machop. You would get a female Medicham, that knows Fire, Ice, and Thunderpunch, and breed it with a male Machop | Machoke | Machamp, and the resulting offspring will have said moves.

Hope it helps ^_^

Tinhead Bruce June 3rd, 2009 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray236 (Post 4685302)
ok im new to iv breeding and im not sure if these iv`s are any good

all of these are ralts

female,serious-30/31/19/13/24/31
female,naughty-6/14/3/2/23/31
female,jolly-7/5/29/31/23/31
female,docile-13/31/23/2/31/9
male,naughty-18/14/4/23/6/31
male,naughty-5/22/27/21/23/31

Hah, well that totally depends on if you want a Gallade or a Gardevoir. Actually, none of those breeds would be specifically good. For Gallade, you're going to want an Adamant or Jolly nature, and 31 IVs in at least Speed and Attack. For Gardevoir, you're going to want a Modest, Timid or Calm nature (depending on the set), with 31 IVs in Sp. Attack, Sp. Def, and Speed (again, depending on the set).

KodiakBlackout July 7th, 2009 3:04 PM

Hey
Kinda new at IV Breeding, but here goes

Can someone please explain or link me to something showing how to breed a specific hidden power onto a pokemon?
Like, I want a Tropius with HP fire,
Where would I start?
I know it's based on IVs but how would I get the right ones?
I've seen guides but it's all jumbled to me :S
Lol sorry, but it seemed kinda interesting to get into.

GFA July 12th, 2009 8:59 AM

I bred a Tyranitar w/ Outrage, and am planning to breed it with Garchomp. However, I'm worried Tyranitar will forget Outrage if I leave it in the daycare to long. I know what your going to say, "Got to the Move Relearner in Pastoria." That won't work though since it's an Egg Move, trust me, I tried something like that before. Any suggestions?

Dark Azelf July 12th, 2009 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFA (Post 4849198)
I bred a Tyranitar w/ Outrage, and am planning to breed it with Garchomp. However, I'm worried Tyranitar will forget Outrage if I leave it in the daycare to long. I know what your going to say, "Got to the Move Relearner in Pastoria." That won't work though since it's an Egg Move, trust me, I tried something like that before. Any suggestions?

Move Outrage to the bottom of the move list [to slot 4] every few levels, this way it wont be forgotten since only the top move is replaced. ^^

GFA July 12th, 2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf (Post 4849365)
Move Outrage to the bottom of the move list [to slot 4] every few levels, this way it wont be forgotten since only the top move is replaced. ^^

Oh that's very helpful! Thanks a lot!

GFA July 15th, 2009 3:53 AM

Got another question, am thinking of breeding a Duskull with Ominous Wind, is it possible/does it make sense to go chain breed and get Pain Split?

Gulpin July 15th, 2009 5:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFA (Post 4859549)
Got another question, am thinking of breeding a Duskull with Ominous Wind, is it possible/does it make sense to go chain breed and get Pain Split?

It is possible:

Breed a male Drifloon/Drifblim/Spiritomb that knows Ominous Wind with a Misdreavous. You will wait untill you get a male Misdreavous that should know Ominous Wind. Level up the male Misdreavous to 28, so it learns Pain Split. Then, breed the male Misdreavous that knows Ominous Wind and Pain Split with a female Duskull/Dusclops/Dusknoir.

I don't know if it makes since to breed to get Pain Split, but that is how you can do it ^


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