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Breeding Questions
Soon, the Breeder's Corner sub forum will be gone. Instead, we'll be moving all breeding inquiries into this sticky. Why you ask? Because threads in that forum tend to attract massive amounts of SPAM and people answering the question over and over with no new information. Instead, we'll focus on quick answering methods like in the Request a Move Set and the Simple Q&A thread.
What's acceptable in this thread. Here are some examples:
Questions about soft resetting are also acceptable here. Here's a rundown of some of the more common questions:
There will be more covered in the Breeding FAQ I am working on, so stay tuned. |
Heya guys, I'm sad to see the Breeder's Corner go.
I had a post in the BC about my breeding in anticipation for Platinum but never got a chance to see any responses so i'll post the question again. I'm about to start breeding a Vaporeon for my WiFi team in Platinum and i'm going with Wish Support version, Bold ~ (*Surf / *Toxic / *Protect / *Wish). If i were to luck out and get a +65 *HP Electric than i would probably go with that over *Toxic but for now it's looking like the set above. Now i use my old Emerald technique via Dittos passing on 31 IVs so i can get 3 Flawless IVs on both parents to maximize my chances of getting good IVs for my other less desirable stats. So my question is which 3 stats should i focus on getting 31 in? Right now i'm leaning towards Bold ~ 31 HP / 31 Def / 31 SDf. Am i missing out on maximizing my EV's though if i do it this way since i will need to use an exact Speed number to outspeed certain pokes? Smogon has the EV spread as 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Speed so getting anything less than a 31 IV in Speed would result in me losing EVs in HP or not outspeeding certain pokes which would not be cool at all. Obviously HP / Def must be 31 but should my 3rd flawless be Special Defense or Speed? Any thoughts? |
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White Lotus: I see Special defense being more of a priority considering Vaporeon is most often a Bulky Water. It doesn't need the speed IV to do its job based on the EVs. Go with the plan you have now.
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Thanks Paradox, that's what i was thinking but i don't know the Speed Tiers as well as i did in 3rd Gen so i wanted to make sure there wasn't a specific speed i had to have in order to outspeed a specific threat.
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Hm, well, Vaporeon isn't going to be sweeping or Baton Passing, so the speed is a moot point, I think. However, Smogon DOES say to use the Speed, so it can outpace CB Metagross and Skarmory. If you think these may be a threat, you can consider getting that 31 Speed IV over Special Defense.
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Since IVs determined if a Pokemon were shiny or not in Gen II, does that mean there'd be at least an increased chance of breeding for a shiny in G/S/C?
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Yeah, if one parent is shiny I think the odds are 1/64, and the odds of getting a shiny poke from breeding was much greater than now. But.... isn't that kind of an odd question to ask considering you can't even trade G/S/C pokes to 3rd gen or 4th gen?
But for my own question: I'm breeding a shinx (don't ask why =p), and I'm planning on using the Mixed Attacker set that Smogon has for Luxray, which in case you don't know is: Rash/Naive Intimidate EVs: 120 Atk/ 252 SpA/ 136 Spe Moveset: Thunderbolt Return (I'm using this instead of HP Grass, I'm not that advanced at IV breeding) Crunch Ice Fang Anyways, all the other moves I can handle on my currently bred Shinx: Naïve #403 Shinx: 13 / 29 / 23 / 31 / 9 / 31 Now, can anyone help me figure out a chain of breeding to get said move (Ice Fang) onto Shinx while still keeping the IVs intact? Thanks! |
I think Jigg's question might belong in the 2nd Gen forum. ^^
It's good to note, though, that it's impossible to breed TWO shiny Pokemon together, since their DVs are too similar. |
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Haha, I really think it shouldn't be allowed anyway.
But actually, parents and offspring CAN breed, it's just you can't breed two shinies together. This includes if one parents and the offspring are both shiny. =3 And by 2nd gen, I meant the RBY and GSC forum. < _< I'm still new here, after all. |
Dammit, i just hatched a shiny Eevee and it was on the first round of breeding so its stats are hot garbage - totally random. One of its parents is a 31 Def Ditto ----> Yuck.
After crunching numbers he looks like... ~SHINY~ Eevee - Male - Lv. 5 'Run Away' - Makes escaping easier. Gentle <+SDf / -Def> IVs: HP 9 / Att 18 / Def 22 / SAt 17 / SDf 4 / Spd 14 Hidden Power: Rock <38> * Tackle * Tail Whip * Helping Hand * Wish Freaking Gross. What a Waste. It is on Emerald so i can clone but who would want this clunker? Sorry if this isn't the place for this but i would've taken it to Breeder's Corner so just lemme know for future reference. Any other thoughts about the whole Special Defense vs Speed for last 31 IV question? I'm leaning pretty hard towards Special Defense at the moment. |
hey there. im just breeding shuckles for a team im making. not competative, just for fun. but i want them to be good, so i wanted decent IVs. i just hatched there two, but dont know which one would be better. here are the IVs
19, 24, 30, 12, 31, 13 (Sassy male) 27, 15, 30, 17, 29, 9 (Sassy female) i know the male has better sp.atk, but the female has higher hp, and has higher stats overall i guess. which one would be better as a general defense shuckle? thanks Fishy |
definatly the Female as you dont need sp.att on shuckle lol..
@white lotus...Bad luck on the shiny..though id say go all out on sp.defnece! As for my qustion..Anyone know a good guide to learn how to iv breed?please post the link,thanks in adv. |
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is it posible to get infernape to know heatwave and if so how?
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^It can learn in two ways:
-If the father is a Torkoal that knows Heat Wave or -From one of the Platinum Move Tutors I have a question, as well. I've been breeding for a Cyndaquil, and I think I might have found a good one. Should I use it, or should I keep breeding? Here's the info: Nature: Modest IVs: 31/19/21/26/18/26 Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer this. |
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-Torkoal direct -Smeargle for the win, dude -an Egg move HEAT WAVE Vulpix (Torkoal + Vulpix/Ninetales) |
Hey, is it possible to get both Drill Peck and Whirlwind on a Skarmory at once (in 3rd Gen)? If so, how?
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No, it's not. There isn't a Pokemon in Gen III that can breed with Skarmory and have both Drill Peck and Whirlwind at the same time.
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I've got another Cyndaquil. Should I just use it, or should I use to breed for a better one?
Nature: Modest IVs:26/19/27/26/31/26 |
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Rebreed. As Jake said before, you are definitely going to want to rebreed it, but use it as a parent. On a side-note, I've got a male Houndoom with 31 IVs in Speed and Sp. atk I could give you if you wanted.
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Should I keep this Giratina (O)?
Nature: Mild IVs: 21/19/12/29/29/28 |
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Edit : Can squirtle have the following egg moves on 1 set? Haze/yawn/Fake out? If not what combinatios and how? |
Does the Hold-Everstone-while -breeding trick work only for Dittos? I've been trying to breed for an adamant Beldum from my adamant Metagross holding an Everstone, but I've hatched 43 eggs and got no adamant ones at all.
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I dont think it works for non gender pokes iirc. |
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*headdesk* Alrighty, thanks for the replies! Just one other query, I know to get Trick onto Spoink you need to chain breed, which parents do I need to start with?
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How can I get HP fighting onto my Glaceon?
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That's the quickest method I can think of. |
How do you breed elekid that knows cross chop, fire punch, and ice punch???
I tried like 100 times but i never got it right... please tell me!!! |
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2. Breed it with a Machop/Machoke/Machamp to get a male Machop that knows both moves 3. Level up the Machop until it learns Cross Chop (lv. 37) 4. Breed it with an Electabuzz/Electivire |
Noobie question here.
How do i teach my pokemon egg moves? i understand you have to breed Pokemon in some way but i am clueless as to how. So if someone could help that would be great. Thanks. |
^ ok so once you have your 2 pokemon you want to breed heres what u do:
1 make sure the dad has the required move 2 make sure the offspring can learn that move you want 3 breed your 2 pokemon 4 voila |
Then how do you teach pichu volt tackle if Pikachu cant learn it?
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A girl and guy Pikachu. You can't use a Ditto
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Should I use this for a Porygon2? I'm leaning highly towards using it:
Ability: Trace Nature: Modest IVs: 30/15/31/23/31/13 SA could be a bit better, but it's not meant to be a sweeper. |
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With the Trick Room set you can use that Porygon since you will be using Choice Specs which will increase the SpA by a lot, but its rather better if you have higher SpA. Not a bad Porygon, if I may say so myself. |
Have most chain breeds been discovered or is it possible that pokemon can learn moves that people don't know they can learn through long chain breeds?
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Heatran, naive
10/30/28-29/26/24-25/28 speed last should I keep this or continue resetting? :s /edit: thank you, I've kept it. |
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I've been IV breeding for a DD Kingdra for a few days, and I might have a good one. Should I use it?
Nature: Adamant IVs: 25/31/4/23/11/31 |
what weird matches of pokemon can you breed on diamond and pearl??
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Hey you guys, are there ivs good for my naive natured Azelf which i SR for recently
IVs: 5/25/11/31/29/31 |
Those IV's are awesome. Keep it.
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hey can sum1 plz help =(
when i breed a sczizor (shiny) with an adament ditto (also shiny) and i use the everstone when i breed them i dont get any adament scythers. ive been breeding for a while now and so far no adament scythers. can sum1 tell me what wrong? |
Your ditto should be holding the everstone. That allows it to have a 50% chance of passing down its nature.
Also, don't expect any shiny eggs. Breeding shinies together doesn't increase the odds of that happening. |
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If you still need an adamant Scyther I will give you one, just PM me. |
Okay, I have an MALE Ivysaur [that knows Double Edge] and a MALE and FEMALE Slowpoke [that know Curse].
Is there any way to get a Slowpoke that knows both Double Edge and Curse? I need to get one so I can then breed it with a Snorlax so the Snorlax can have both of them as egg moves. Sorry if the answer is obvious, I've looked into this a bit but it's still kind of confusing. I'm still kind of new to this... please reply if you know! ;x; EDIT; Okay. Looks like Slowpoke isn't able to learn Double Edge. So how about this. How do I get Ivysaur's egg [Bulbasaur] to learn Curse? 0: EDITEDIT; Nevermind, I figured it out! Well, at least I think I did... if not, I'll be coming back here for help. XD |
hey guys i'm pretty new to this whole breeding thing any tips would be help ful?
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Here's a few tips and things to remember about breeding. Other people may expand on this if they wish. ~ You can breed male and female pokemon to get an offspring of the female pokemon, at level 1. ~ In addition, you can use ditto to replace any of the pokemon above, but you will just get an offspring of the pokemon that isn't ditto. ~ Only male pokemon may pass down egg moves, TMs, HMs etc, but only as long as the female of the pokemon can learn the move itself. ~ Only females and Ditto have a 50% chance of passing down the nature, as long as the pokemon with the nature trying to be passed down is holding an everstone. |
Shaymin, timid
28/26/31/30/30/24 (spd last) Should I keep this? :s (speed could be better and the hp-type is fighting, not ice or fire :[ but the other stats are very nice.. difficult choice :s) |
Vulpix Egg Move
This feels like the right section for this, but if not, feel free to correct me.
Does anyone know if their is a way to make sure a Vulpix will know Energy Ball when it hatches? If so please tell me. |
Yes, there is a way.
Breed a female Vulpix with a male Nuzleaf, Seedot or Shiftry. Nuzleaf, Seedot and Shiftry learn it through TM. |
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Question if i get a t-tar with counter from emerald and transfer it over to platinum and breed it will the lavitar eggs learn counter
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No. Tyranitar is the ONLY one in the evolution line that can learn Counter.
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^ I don't think you can transfer things to Platinum from Emerald or otherwise. |
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I think you might be forgetting about the Pal Park, ShinjisLover.
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Ah, right, yeah I did. Well, the answer is still no either way. XD |
My understanding is that for any offspring, it inherits 3/6 IVs from its parents. The first is any random IV from either parent, the second is any except HP, and the 3rd is any except HP or defense. This makes it harder to pass on HP and Defense IVs... is that correct?
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Yes. While the other 4 stats have a 19.55% chance of being passed down, Defense has a 13.78%, and HP has a 8.02%.
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my recent egg hatching
Hello again, simple advice seeking really. I was given Riolu egg from the main story which recently hatched with the following, 'Adamant nature and Inner Focus'
I have seen alot of movesets with these two as priority, i was wondering if this pokemon was worth training as it hasnt got any breeding moves. Any advice on a moveset without egg/breeding moves would help thanks in advance. |
It's really up to you. As stated in the rules, in game teams don't matter because virtually anything works.
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Well if you are planning to use it in competitive battling then i highly suggest you check its ivs to see if they are good. If the rest are bad then you will have to rebreed anyways. [email protected] Orb 252 ATT / 252 SPEED / 6 DEF Adamant Nature Trait : Inner Focus - Close Combat - Swords Dance - Extremespeed - Stone Edge / Crunch (if you have bad ivs you might aswell rebreed for this too)/ Ice Punch |
I am pretty new with competitive battles but i am planning to ev train and breed heavily in the next few days. Is getting a pokemon up to lvl 50 the only way to accuratly work out its ivs? as that seems like it could take a long while.
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Actually, it's lv. 100, but yes. That's the only way to check out its IVs accurately.
However, Wi-fi battling does have a feature that automatically raises your Pokemon to lv. 100 for the battle. You could then go on an IV checker like Serebii's and calculate your IVs there. There is a thread in the Wi-fi Center's Battle Stadium set aside just for this purpose. |
Hi everyone! I'm new to breeding so I need some help with this.
If I'm trying to get a Cyndaquil, who should I pair with my lvl 100 Typhlosion? |
If it is female, pair it with any male Pokemon in the Ground egg group.
If it is male, pair it with Ditto. |
I'll do that. Thanks so much!
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Okay, so I've been playing for a bit and finally got to the elite four but before going I decided to change my lineup and was looking for a Roserade.
The moveset I'm looking to get on it is Sleep Powder, Sludge Bomb, Leaf Storm and Hidden Power (fire). Now I may seem a little stupid, but this breeding business confuses the heck out of me. Can someone explain to me how I would go about getting such a moveset? The problem is getting sleep powder and leaf storm, right? How can I? |
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Sludge Bomb is a TM so thats easy whilst Hidden Power is based on Ivs, read here. |
ugh, the no-URL thing killed my previous attempt at this post since I quoted a URL, lol.
1. If your pokemon had more than one IV @ 31, is it random which of the multiple possible characteristic phrases you get? For example, if you had all 31s, then the phrase could be, "Often dozes off," "Likes to thrash about," "Capable of taking hits," "Mischevious," "Somewhat vain," or "Alert to sounds." Which is chosen? Or is it random? 2. Not sure if you really have to be at level 100 to confirm that the IVs are at 31. If you check and record the ranges on serebii after each level, and combine the highest minimums with the lowest maximums, you can confirm one value if they're the same number, and I've been able to do it in the lvl 20s. For example, at level 15 you get 20-31, then 15-28, then 28-31. From this, you know the value must be 28. (it's usually not that easy) This only assumes that the serebii ranges are always correct. They seem to be, but I'm not sure. |
Thanks for the reply above, i just have another question about breeding. ..
Is it better to have a team of male pokemon due to the fact that they can pass the tms i give to them to any future pokemon so they are not lost forever or is there a way to pass one use tms from females to other future pokemon? |
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I'm making a new team for Platinum wifi, and I was just wondering, what do I need to breed with my Empoleon to get a piplup with agility? |
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^tells you here, any of those. ^^ |
can pokemon learn moves from both parents? like if i were to breed an electabuz that knows ice punch with a machoke with cross chop...would the elekid know both?
also is it possible to breed a metagross? |
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Beldum (metagross's first form) can only breed with ditto. |
ok im new to iv breeding and im not sure if these iv`s are any good
all of these are ralts female,serious-30/31/19/13/24/31 female,naughty-6/14/3/2/23/31 female,jolly-7/5/29/31/23/31 female,docile-13/31/23/2/31/9 male,naughty-18/14/4/23/6/31 male,naughty-5/22/27/21/23/31 |
31 is the max for IVs. So some are good and some are max.
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How do i get hatched pokemon to hatch with special moves like Volt Tackle on Pichu?
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To get a Pichu with Volt Tackle, you must breed a Pikachu that is holding a Light Ball, and the Pichu that hatches will have Volt Tackle.
Egg moves can be obtained by breeding a male pokemon with the move you want the offspring to know with a female of the species of the pokemon you want. For example: Lets say you want the Elemental Punches on a Machop. You would get a female Medicham, that knows Fire, Ice, and Thunderpunch, and breed it with a male Machop | Machoke | Machamp, and the resulting offspring will have said moves. Hope it helps ^_^ |
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Kinda new at IV Breeding, but here goes Can someone please explain or link me to something showing how to breed a specific hidden power onto a pokemon? Like, I want a Tropius with HP fire, Where would I start? I know it's based on IVs but how would I get the right ones? I've seen guides but it's all jumbled to me :S Lol sorry, but it seemed kinda interesting to get into. |
I bred a Tyranitar w/ Outrage, and am planning to breed it with Garchomp. However, I'm worried Tyranitar will forget Outrage if I leave it in the daycare to long. I know what your going to say, "Got to the Move Relearner in Pastoria." That won't work though since it's an Egg Move, trust me, I tried something like that before. Any suggestions?
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Got another question, am thinking of breeding a Duskull with Ominous Wind, is it possible/does it make sense to go chain breed and get Pain Split?
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Breed a male Drifloon/Drifblim/Spiritomb that knows Ominous Wind with a Misdreavous. You will wait untill you get a male Misdreavous that should know Ominous Wind. Level up the male Misdreavous to 28, so it learns Pain Split. Then, breed the male Misdreavous that knows Ominous Wind and Pain Split with a female Duskull/Dusclops/Dusknoir. I don't know if it makes since to breed to get Pain Split, but that is how you can do it ^ |
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