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Find your secret ID (without cheating!)
Most people know that the ID number on your Trainer Card is not the only one you have. You actually have a second, hidden ID number, known as your secret ID number. However, due to it not being shown, most people think that you can only see it if you use cheats. This is false.
But how can you find your secret ID, when the game doesn't show it to you? There are a few game mechanics that actually allow you to work it out. Here's a quick rundown:
Now that I have the explanation out of the way, time to move on to the method. Firstly, let me make this clear: you won't be able to work out your exact secret ID. You'll only be able to get a range in which it could be, as though there are 65536 possible secret IDs, the chance of a shiny is 1/8192. Therefore, you'll get a range of 65536/8192=8 different possible secret IDs. Anyway, first, you need to catch a shiny. If you've already got one, then great; if not, start searching! However, the shiny cannot be cheated or hatched. Shiny cheats affect the generation of the personality ID, and an egg's personality ID is generated at a different time than the IVs. Therefore, with these two, there is no link between the personality ID and the IVs, so the personality ID cannot be calculated. Then, you need to calculate your shiny's IVs. There's loads of guides on how to do that already; however, if you can't find any, here's a short guide from me.
Once you have a personality ID for your shiny, go to this site. Yes, it's in Japanese. There should be a Flash applet at the top, with three buttons on the upper right. Click the bottom one of those. You'll see a screen with a space for your ID, and a wider space underneath. That's where you enter the personality ID of the shiny. Once you have entered your ID and the shiny's personality ID, click the large grey button underneath the personality ID. This will make a list of numbers pop up in the big white box. These are your possible secret IDs. If you had multiple personality ID possibilities, repeat the last step with each one, for two different shinies from the same save file. Two of the secret ID lists should have the same number[s]; these are your possible secret IDs. As I said earlier, this method won't give you your exact secret ID. However, all of these will give you the same shiny Pokémon personality IDs, so if you're using your secret ID to find the timing for soft-resetting shinies on Emerald, any one of those will work. If you need any help, or you don't understand part of this guide, please post. |
nice find. i heard all this thing i'd like to keep the randomness thing..
and pokemon also have a formula in catching a pokemon (i found it out in bulbapedia.. man that site is so rich about information..) |
This is really cool!
Now im trying to get myself an shiny starly in diamond! |
Nice; I've heard about RNG abusing in Emerald to churn out shinies. However, I cannot get Smogon's IV to PID applet to work. Does it require a certain program in order to use it?
Edit: Nevermind. Like I suspected, I need Java. Blargh. XD |
This is pretty interstting... might give it a try. lol
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Does this work for Sapphire?
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Btw, I was successful in finding my shiny PID/time. Thanks again for the thread. I was too lazy to look up this stuff on my own. :0 |
Its a pity the system has changed in D/P
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Actually, this can be used to calculate your secret ID in any 3rd or 4th gen game. However, the reason I put it here was because the only use I can think of for your SID is to abuse Emerald's RNG for shinies (since none of the other games have an abusable RNG).
However, to use it for D/P, take note that in D/P, all wild Pokémon are generated with method 1 (unlike in 3rd gen, where they're either method 2 or 3). |
Do you need two shinies or do you need one?
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