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Pokemon Garnet ~On Hold
"I'm not done yet Gramps."
(Alot has changed since I have to restart the hack) http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1458/pokemonneon.gif The Return of Gary Oak. Pokemon Neon A hack of http://i33.*.com/i79b9z.png Introduction Hello. I am Xatoku, I have coded in the past but I've seen some hacks here and I want to give it a shot. Features What the game will include
Storyline How the games story will progress. Spoiler:
Team You can help. Just ask. Xatoku Screenshots Progress reports via Pictures Videos Video content of the hack via YouTube. Once I get some stuff done. Progress- How the hack is advancing. Restarting. Banners Show your support with the following banners. http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9122/63017249.gifby Xatoku (It's a little newb but my first banner so yeah XD) HTML Code:
Polls If I'm stuck I'll come to you guys for advice Should Misty join Ash's party when you reach Kanto? Awards Spoiler:
Journal Where I can type stuff that I have in my mind so i don't forget. Note there are spoilers in here so read at your own risk Help Help I need! I need somebody to do some recolouring for me :D |
Offtopic: Hey there is already a hack called Pokemon Neon, so you will have to change the name. Ontopic: The storyline is good, but i think you should add afew more features. ;) Well good luck ! Buizel 9 ~ |
Why did you make a new post? Just edit your old one o.O. This one is probably just going to be locked. At least copy your post in this one while you can, and edit your other one so you dont have to format it again. Better safe than sorry. |
Wow, awesome story, man! Sounds great!
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The thread was closed, I don't know why but somebody closed it.
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XD mah bad, Still adjusting to the PC layout haha. Looks like it was closed for lacking an introduction and storyline. I think this hack sounds great to be honest. I would be happy to get some support bars made for it granted some screens and media pop up. :) |
hmm will do, once i get this scripting thing down I'll post some up
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Sorry for double post but, do you guys think Gary should talk in some instances or no?
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There is a pencil in the button right of your older posts, that would be the edit button ;)
Sounds like the question you should be asking is, why shouldn't he talk in come instances? |
Well, I usually don't approve of the character(player) talking unless it's REALLY important. It's a little different here because it's supposed to be Gary, though, so as long as it's more or less in character (and not so overused that it gets annoying) it should be fine.
Also, some people (for some reason) like it when the player talks. Eh, so, are you going to find some way so you can't play as a girl? Or how are you going to handle that? EDIT: Just noticed your poll. Unless you come up with a REALLY good reason, it wouldn't make sense for Rocket, Aqua, and Magma to team up. Rocket is after money and power, and Aqua and Magma are after entirely OPPOSITE goals from each other. Now, if there was a management change - probably in Aqua and Magma - and Geovanni thought that the alliance would bring him personal benefit... maybe then. |
Thanks alot Kay. About the girl thing, I've had thoughts of making it only playable as Gary to be original. In no way I'm sexist but I just remember when I was young rooting for Gary all the time becuase I thought he was so cool, so I'm gonna leave the game as just Gary and then I can make a more focused storyline.
As for the teaming up thing I'm not sure too. I was thinking that Aqua and Magma would have caught the 3 Legendary Birds (Moltres,Zaptos and Articuno) and are In Johto going after the Dogs, while Giovani allready has Mewtwo he wants more and goes after the dogs aswell and then they meet and alliance. |
:D It would be more likely for them to meet and fight over the legends. Geovanni wants power - I think that's right. To tell the truth you probably know better than me because I haven't seen the anime in ages (I think they've gotten rather lame personally...). Also, I didn't think Magma and Aqua would team up - or did that happen in the Anime?
Anyway, just ideas. :) |
Well he bosses of Magma and Aqua were kind of teaming up in Emerald but yeah I like your idea of fighting over the legends. Maybe Aqua and Magma couldn't beat Giovani's Mewtwo so they look for another strong pokemon, maybe Deoxys or somebody? And blah blah blah.
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Well, in Emerald they also looked like they were ready to mend their ways and become good guys. Near the end, I mean, which is when they actually started talking to each other instead of fighting...
Of course, I always figured that once they mended their ways, then if they kept their teams together it would be to protect the environment. But I'm sure stopping Team Rocket would help protect the environment. :D I figure if they're still bad, then they probably aren't working together yet. Although that would then be three Teams fighting over legendaries, which means all the regular people are caught in the middle of what might be considered a mob war or something... ;) Again, just throwing out ideas. |
Looks like a good game. I hope you finish it.
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Sweet it was moved :) Thanks Cierra
On Topic: Do you guys want May or Dawn to travel /w Ash and Brock? |
Whats this???!!!!
Whats this???!!!! Are you hacking off shiny gold?? Sure looks like it.
And the scripts too. >_> The brandon one looks like the Carlos one in Shiny gold. :\ I sure hope you dit'ent |
No? This is a FireRed hack.
And the Brendan script was by me, 1 of my first too. I also need to change the tileset. |
And just a little advice from another mapper.
on the first screenshot, try to use more types of grass. \it looks like a carpet :\ I realy like the story though, and i hope you will continue this. |
Looks like you are using Zel's Shiny Gold as a ROM Base, which is a big no no, unless you have permisson from Zel. To say it is a Fire red Hack is mess, because you just said oyu needed to change the tile set, which means you are using a rom hack as a base, if it were a stock Fire Red ROM and you needed to change the tilesets, then you would have stock FR tiles in your screens. Excuse me if I am mistaken, but I think people should create their own work when it comes to making a ROM hack, be it with a team or by yourself. Any confusion could and will be resolved if you provide a link to the actual ROM Base you are using. |
this sounds pretty cool. the storylines good, seems to need some tweaking, like krysteenah suggested, but other than that i think it sounds good.
just an idea, you could have a couple battles where gary teams up with ash or one of the other heros (kinda like in pokemon diamond / pearl or even in emerald with steven) this sounds good though i wish you luck! :) (cant wait to try it out! lol) |
I will tell you guys again. THIS IS NOT A SHINY GOLD HACK!!! It has nothing to do with Shiny Gold so please stop spamming my thread with statements that it is a hack of shiny gold.
I did use Zel's blocks 1 originally in the screens but not his whole hack, I have already changed the blocks and everything and will update once I figure out how to import them. All in all, it had blocks from shiny gold but that was about it and the only blocks were the ground and the trees. As of now, I'm looking for a new tileset. |
still, you need to have zel's permission.
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There are some nice tuts on importing tiles in the tuts section. There are also some nice ROM Bases that are released to the public with new tile sets. And your thread is in progression hacks, and using tiles that you probably were not permitted to use, will just get your thread locked, so I thought I would point that out. Here is a public ROM Base you might be interested in though, very nice tiles and palettes imo. http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=4160104&postcount=149 or this one http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=4188569&postcount=153 just back up your maps and scripts, then edit them accordingly. |
Ooo I like that too, I may try it.
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and export the tile set, and the palette then import them into the other ROM Base |
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Weather or not it's a pretty good hack, for a beginner. ;) Keep progressing and you'll be fine. Use a Rombase which you like, not chosen for you. |
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No, he just used a few tiles from it. I didn't pick them for him, I merely suggested them, and put it out there, so he knows there are nice ROM Bases which are public, that he can use to save him self some stress inserting a bunch of new tilesets. |
K tileset's all fixed now. Pics all updated :)
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Looking great man! If I can get some spare time I will get you a userbar or two, I have some others I will get done before yours, but I will make sure I get one or two made, so I can put one in my siggy :) |
New screens uploaded. I'm starting to script CherryGrove now, and I'm getting good at scripting now :)
Note: Because of Ash's palette for some reason the palette for exclamation marks and the arrows leading outsite of a door a bit different, I was going to change them back to white and black but I thought they added a little originality and really said Neon with the new colours, you'll see them in the beta but I'm keeping them as they are with the new colours. |
I really like the idea as playing as Gary...
Hey Zatoku if you're still looking for someone to help with plot, I'll gladly vollunteer. I should be able to have several pages of plot line each week and such. If it's good with you, you can pm me or email me the full story so far. my email: [email protected] (srry it's long...) |
If you have MSN then I can talk to you there because it's probably the easiest way.
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Always wanted to see things from his point of view
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Will Dawn and Misty be making appearances?
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Dawn may have a cameo or two and Misty will be a gym leader. I have had thoughts of Misty walking round with Ash and Brock in Kanto and May in Johto and Hoen
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It does sound like something Misty would do if Ash was nearby...
Question! Will Team Rocket/Magma/Aqua be under a new Leadership or will Giovanni and such reappear? |
looks cool i cant be a beta tester due to school so anyway cant wait
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this game sounds awesome. i would love to be a beta tester for you bud. also if you need help with the story line, im really fimilar with the show and games. so just let me know. im new the forums here. but ive been downloading from here for a while. i saw this hack and thought it would be a good reason to join the forums.
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Umm I think Giovani Maxie and Archie will be under a main leader, though I'm not sure who that will be, maybe Mewtwo.
I have decided to make it so May leaves the group in Hoen and Misty joins up after you beat her in her gym. Yes! Beta Testers would be nice, I'm assuming a beta tester just checks the beta to make sure it's ready for release so yeah you may come in handy. Question: Who should the Champion be? I had a thought of making my own Champion to be kul but yeah Update: Here's how the Elite 4 Will Work There are 14 Rooms in total 12 with Elite 4 Members from around the 3 regions 1 With a Pokecenter 1 With the Champion Each room will have 3 exits so you face up against random members of the elite 4's. 1 Room will have a Pokemon Center but you won't know which one until the data is leaked. The last room will have the champion in it. But before you fight the champion you fight your rival. What do you think? |
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and there were just the elite 4 and a few trainers. In my version you went around till you found the correct door combo, if you messed up you face a trainer then the door leads back to the beginning. |
Fighting the Rival right after the Champion might be hard with your expanded Elite Four challenge. Though it might not make the fight as awesome since the player would have just went through many tough challenges. So, you could go the Mt. Silver route and have the Rival, and their partners, elsewhere with pokemon far stronger than the Champions.
Though for the Elite Four a cool idea might be a double battle thing for some of them. |
Well the Champion fight WILL be a double battle no ifs ands or buts.
I think you will have a room where your rival is aswell, not sure. |
well ill be happy to help with testing and/or the story line
do you have aim? |
Yeah [email protected], add me
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Wow, I've been looking for something like this for quite some time. I was actually thinking about learning to script myself just to make a hack following Gary's storyline. xD You have my support. If there's ever any sprites or plot ideas that you need, I'd be happy to help. =3
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Okay.
Okay, lets get this started..
First of all, take a look at your story, I want to know what happens while we are playing through the hack, not how the player starts his adventure. And "in the T.V" is not a good phrase for "Manga/Series or anime" Your going to need to step up on your grammar aswell.. Next up, we have, mapping. your mapping is very small, plain, and bland. I'd hate to play through this map. It would take me 5 seconds to walk through this whole map. Perhaps even go into all the houses.. And your scripting is meaningless, they don't make me say Wow. One good thing though is how you set out the thread. Very simple, and easy to read. Good luck! |
Well your statement doesn't make much sense. You're saying you can easily travel through the maps yet they seem empty? That doesn't make sense because you're implying that you want me to enlarge the map and in turn wouldn't that result in even more empty space? I'm not gonna wimp out and say zomg it's my first hackz leave me alone but as much as you're showing my faults you're not helping either. Most people who have posted here either want to help or show the hacker what's wrong and suggestions how to fix it, such as Kaylee, she supported her problem and told me how to fix it while you're just naming off faults. In game I can gaurentee my grammer is higher than others but honestly I don't care how my text comes out on a thread, I understance presentation is important but I know people would rather me finish the hack then focus on the thread. So if you intend on replying to this message than just tell me HOW to fix the problems rather than just tell me what the problems are. TYvm bye
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And he was pointing out the problems. You obviously don't know how to map if you're asking how it can have less empty space if I enlarged it. Talk to Disturbed if you need help. |
God I don't need help, I'm doing this hack for my personal benefit and help is welcome it's just how it is delivered. My computer was just also in the repair shop and I'm on a friggin laptop keyboard ffs.
If we are all done here, News: Team Aqua & Magma will be against eachother throughout the Johto Region but In Kanto they decide to Team up with Team Rocket. EDIT: GFS, that's saying alot seeing as how in your thread you said not to hurt your feelings. |
Are there any Pre-Betas? ?????And The storyline seems soo cool!
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Xatoku, this is looking better every time I see this thread! I am very eager to see a beta release. Any hints as to what each team will try to focus on throughout the game? Or will it be the same as the originals? as far as the bickering goes, your maps look fine, you can always spice it up by arranging the trees in a more natrual flow, but since you are remaking maps from older games it really doesn't matter. Lets not bash other peoples hacks, GFS's hack looks like it is doing good as well. We are all hackers doing this for fun, so lets keep it civil :) |
Will do thanks. I wasn't bashing his thread but he had said in his thread that we were hurting his feelings which seemed kind of ironic at the time.
As for beta, maybe in a few months? UPDATE I can assure you that there will be no bikes and instead a girl will be giving away her Rapidash which can't battle but loves to run, so she gives it to you as a bike. NOTE: I did get the idea to put this in my hack in replace of the bike from Flame of Rage but I have had thoughts about doing it every since the Triathlon episode when Ash and friends are in camp, and one of the events is to ride their rental Pokemon. |
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That is a very cool idea! have you thought about switching to a ruby ROM Base? You could use the acro bike for the Rapidash, and a mach bike for the actual bike, that way the Rapidash can Jump. I know your progressing through Fire Red, but it is a thought before you get too far into it. |
Ahh I'm probably sticking with FireRed cuz I like how the tools are pretty much all firered based making it easy for newbs like me haha.
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Yeah, it was just a though :). I look forward to more updates! |
My spriter has now just started Rapidash, here's what he has so far.
CodeNameArtist Inc. Disclaimer, Do NOT Use these. These are only for this hack. http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2345/dudewithrapidash.png |
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Fantastic! maybe add an anti-rip on the image and edit your post to prevent people from jacking it. |
How do I do that? Is it in the advanced edit settings?
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No just put 'Property of Poke'mon Neon' on the actual image to try and discourage people from using it. I maybe even make a slight color shift o na few pixes that way they are close enough to look at, but the ROM will show a messed up sprite if someone ripped them from the image you posted. since there will be 1 color that is not on the actual palette but looks like it would be since its RBG values are 1 off. |
Alright I added a Poll for this whole switching to Ruby nonsense, I think I will but I'll leave it up to you guys.
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Just a side not, if you aren ot familiar with Ruby hacking you will notice that some things are much harder to do on Ruby than FR. |
Yeah I probably AM gonna keep it FireRed, just wanna see people's opinions.
UPDATE: CHERRYGROVE 80% DONE!!!! NEED TO SCRIPT RIVAL #2 AND WERE READY FOR THE NEXT ROUTE YAY! |
Last I heard they were also working on a day and night system for FR as well, RAWR hurry haha me wantz beta! |
Lol, where should the beta end though? If you want a full Johto beta then It'll be a while, I can release a tiny beta but it would only be up to the first gym >.< Seems pointless if you ask me haha.
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Do an alpha when you get to Golden Rod
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Will do. I'm almost done Cherry Grove now so yeah XD
Alright the first banner has been posted now! Check the first page hehe. The first page was also redone a bit. |
I can't understand a thing of the storyline,and your tiles are like crap.
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Thanks for the non constructive critism. But everyone has their own opinions I guess....But if you can't comprehend the story then that's your problem not mine. And if you're just posting that in spite of what I said on your thread then that's not cool man.
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It's your problem with the storyline,if no one understands what it says.....
I was curious to see your ''succesful hack'',when you posted in my ''failure hack''. You just didn't see my team.We're moving too fast,and i'm gonna have my hack ready in probably 3 months,so look at your own,before saying 'this hack is a failure' to other threads. |
You should really thank the person who created the ROM Base, otherwise it is classed as saying it is your own when it isn't (proper term is plagurism, I think that is how it is spelt. Plagurism is wrong). My opinion is that you should insert your own tiles, instead of using ROM Bases, as it makes it more unique.
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Yeah my spriter is working on a tileset for me as we speak but I will credit the tileset in 1 minute...
To the other comment, I thought the hack would be bad because it showed a wild Giratina, which I thought would have been a bad idea. Still atleast tell me I was too harsh instead of coming trashing my thread just because I gave a "negative" comment on yours. Nuff said. |
Wow that sound like fun! Thank you so much
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Seems great. :]
Love the tile set and the maps look approving. |
I have to update the map pics hehe they look alot different now.
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This hack sounds and looks awesome i cant wait to play this hack, hope it will be done soon!
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Alright I have decided to make an Alpha that goes up to the first Gym which WILL be release before May 2nd.
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^ Excellent news! This sounds like a pretty good idea, and the plotline is really interesting! Plus, I'd love to play in 2/3 worlds :)
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i cant wait to play the alpha, i posted like on the second page that id be a tester ;]
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This hack sounds amazing. Cant wait for a release. I hope you make it like a Red/Blue, Gold/Silver, Ruby/Sapphire remix so that you can travel to kanto, johto and hoenn. I like to be a alpha/beta tester.
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Perhaps, But so far only Johto and Hoenn will be in because I don't know how much space I'll have left.
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OK and Ill like to suggest a way for you to connect johto and hoenn if you dont have a way. You can link them by boat from Olivine City to Lilycove City. If you have a different way, please let me know. You can also do a surfing route from Cianwood City to Mossdeep City and start your Hoenn badge adventure from there. Just suggestions though.
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This hack looks awesome! do i need any programes to play it?
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Well It will probably be Mr. W/e with Peeko picking you up and taking you to Petalburg.
QUESTION: Is there anyone who can edit the grass animation for me? If so please pm me. |
Because it's right outside of violet city I have decided to add Charific Valley into the alpha 1. This being said, you will be able to catch a charmander afteer you have beaten the first gym :D
EDIT: Make it the after the 2nd gym so if you don't pick the fire starter hehehe.... |
Another thing, Gary will be riding is Arcanine. DO NOT say that I am copying Pokemon Flame of Rage, it's just that Gary rode his Arcanine in a race during the Anime so I have no choice. Nuff said.
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Awesome looking hack bro. Keep up the good work.
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Hey good luck,but why is everyone trying to make the map blocks look like the ds games,it just looks to be too much for gba rom!
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Congratulations on winning hack of the week number 60. Here is your award.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh139/oddigem/neonaward.png?t=1240151386 |
Oh? I was gone for few days and hotw w00t!
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Congrats on HoTW! You deserve it Xatoku, you are doing a great job! |
Hey doodes, I changed the pallete for the greens to make it a little more mature and finished scripting route 30 OMG. Note I'm changing the path later on cuz it's way to bland but as of now....
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ooooo. I like the new palette! the grass could use a slight adjustment though. |
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Anyway, this is good, congrats on HOTW. |
Congrats for HOTW!
I like the new tree palette but I think the grass is a bit too dark xD GL! |
Woah!!! A Pokemon game from another perspective, I'm looking forward to this.
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Cool hack man keep up the good work! Good Luck with this!
BTW Im looking forward to playing the alpha |
Cool it'll be good to see gary's side of the story.
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