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Zennerick March 21st, 2009 8:17 PM

Future Pal Park Problem?
 
As almost everyone is aware of, the new Nintendo DSi is coming out soon (U.S. release: April 5th). The new DSi lacks a Gameboy Advance slot; this could cause many problems to those who will own a DSi along with the Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum games.

The main concern of this whole thread is how the owners of a DSi and Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum would obtain the Pokemon only obtainable via Pal Park. Sure, you could just keep your DS/DS Lite; however, if you somehow break it, your forced to either find an alternative DS/DS Lite thru Ebay, Amazon, etc. (if your lucky, used ones at a game store) or buy the new DSi at a local store. This will be especially hard if a child never did own a regular DS/DS Lite before he or she received the DSi.

So, what do you think about this 'Pal Park problem'?

Eon-Rider March 21st, 2009 8:20 PM

Tough luck if your original DS or Lite breaks. I don't think there will ever be a real solution for it.

Schala_25 March 21st, 2009 8:29 PM

Its annoying, true. Either Nintendo will come up with a way to make an attachable GBA slot (if that makes any sense to anyone...) that you can buy separately, or you'll just have to find a DS/DS Lite and and keep it in good condition.

Duuuarte March 21st, 2009 8:42 PM

Pokemon Ranch will solve my problem

Curt_09 March 21st, 2009 8:44 PM

Nintendo is a marketing fiend. They will get you to buy as many accessories as humanly possible.
An attachable GBA slot similar to what we saw with Pokemon Stadium is definitely not out of the question.

Eon-Rider March 21st, 2009 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duuuarte (Post 4455484)
Pokemon Ranch will solve my problem

How does My Pokémon Ranch help with anything?

PokemonMichael March 21st, 2009 9:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eon-Rider (Post 4455498)
How does My Pokémon Ranch help with anything?

you have a point there.

Yus, i agree, they will likely make an attachable GBA slot. well they better. if they make a GS remake, i want to get my Empoleon on it.

Cactus Twist March 21st, 2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PokemonMichael (Post 4455550)
you have a point there.

Yus, i agree, they will likely make an attachable GBA slot. well they better. if they make a GS remake, i want to get my Empoleon on it.


Why would they make a GS remake for GBA now?

YellowPen March 22nd, 2009 2:19 AM

Its all a massive marketing strategy

I can say with out any fear that majority of DSi users will own at least one or more of D/P/Pt. And therefore most of DSi users will want to complete the pokedex.
So without a GBA slot, you will have to buy another attachment, or buy for the next series of games, which I'm willing to bet has have the pokemon which were previously only available through the GBA games.

Kinda like when R/S/E was released, but you couldn't get some pokemon from R/B/Y/G/S/C. So you had to buy FR/LG to complete the pokedex.

Mitchman March 22nd, 2009 2:30 AM

Exactly where an attachement or gsds with about all the other pokemon you cant catch in it.

.Nighthawk. March 22nd, 2009 2:31 AM

True but It would be easier if nintendo realsed one of the gba games on the dsi shop that way you could send it across to your diamond pearl or platinum solving the problem but something tells me that if it would happen then it would cost loads. they have tried to make it a bit more easier on platinum by letting you get the legendery birds without gba games

Mitchman March 22nd, 2009 4:13 AM

Problem is they dont have a VC for the DSi and the games are only compatible through the slot. Not through say SD or internal DSi memory.

Wichu March 22nd, 2009 4:24 AM

You could easily get them on Wi-Fi...

mStar March 22nd, 2009 5:43 AM

That sure does suck, since I'll be trading in my DS Lite for $70 credit towards my DSi. But, I'll probably use my cousins DS Lite.

BHwolfgang March 22nd, 2009 8:18 AM

Wow. That sucks. I'm sure that Nintendo and Game Freak would release something that makes it possible to link it to the GameBoy Advanced series games.

M O M U S U March 22nd, 2009 8:28 AM

Well, I'm not getting a DSi anyways for this reason, I have a ton of GBA games that I still play, and I'm not very willing to give them up just yet.

Anyways, Nintendo will probably release a $10-$20 GBA adapter for the DSi that will allow you to play GBA games via some sort of add-on.

Nintendo... I love them and hate them at the same time...

Speed March 22nd, 2009 8:52 AM

Maybe this is where the SD card comes in?

Zennerick March 22nd, 2009 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Wichu (Post 4456303)
You could easily get them on Wi-Fi...

True; however, due to the lack of a GBA slot, there will be less Pokemon from previous generations of Pokemon games in the GTS/Wi-Fi. If there are, they are most likely hacked or generated.

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Originally Posted by Speed (Post 4456929)
Maybe this is where the SD card comes in?

That would be painstaking. Imagine having, at the most, three GBA games saved on your SD Card. That would
take up a lot of space, not to mention it would be hard enough getting the GBA data onto the card accurately.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curt_09 (Post 4455490)
Nintendo is a marketing fiend. They will get you to buy as many accessories as humanly possible.
An attachable GBA slot similar to what we saw with Pokemon Stadium is definitely not out of the question.

There aren't any other ports to plug in accessories to the DSi besides the DS game slot and the almighty SD card slot. I couldn't imagine an attachable GBA slot accessory for the DSi.

spike6958 March 22nd, 2009 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zenn (Post 4457245)
True; however, due to the lack of a GBA slot, there will be less Pokemon from previous generations of Pokemon games in the GTS/Wi-Fi. If there are, they are most likely hacked or generated.

That and the fact that you have to have seen the Pokemon in order to get them off the GTS, which in turn would need you to have the GBA slot.

Zennerick March 22nd, 2009 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spike6958 (Post 4457314)
That and the fact that you have to have seen the Pokemon in order to get them off the GTS, which in turn would need you to have the GBA slot.

Excellent point. I hadn't thought of that. :cer_nod:

BrainDamage March 22nd, 2009 1:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenn (Post 4457245)
That would be painstaking. Imagine having, at the most, three GBA games saved on your SD Card. That would
take up a lot of space, not to mention it would be hard enough getting the GBA data onto the card accurately.

you do realize that pokemon GBA Roms are at the most 16MB and SD cards made nowadays are 1, 2, 4, and 8 GB? and the smallest that one could come across is 128MB?

And getting GBA Data onto the card accurately isn't going to be the problem. What hasn't been confirmed is whether the DSi software would have the ability to read GBA from the SD card.

Think about it, if Nintendo gave the DSi the ability to play GBA ROMs stored on the SD card, distribution of roms across the internet would increase from gamers with flash carts to anyone with a DSi. Nintendo couldn't let that happen and risk losing money from the DSi shop.

So the only possibility I see AT ALL, IF AT ALL, is some sort of adapter that inserts into the SD card slot or the DS cart slot

*PrincessPika-chu* March 22nd, 2009 2:09 PM

They probably would do that if they had some kind of firmware for the DSi, that won't let you play roms that aren't downloaded from the DSi shop. Just like we can't save a wii ISO or a SNES ISO onto a SD card and stick it into the wii, but we can play the same games if they are downloaded from the shop.

That is a great idea, but I doubt Nintendo would do that--put GBA games in the DSi shop. (But they may surprise me)

I'm gettng a DSi, I traded in my broken out of warranty, replaced systems, and just got about $40 more to pay on it. I'm keeping my faithful Fat DS, for the GBA insertion, and I can battle and trade between two DS's now.

BrainDamage March 22nd, 2009 2:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pikapikapal#1 (Post 4457945)
They probably would do that if they had some kind of firmware for the DSi, that won't let you play roms that aren't downloaded from the DSi shop. Just like we can't save a wii ISO or a SNES ISO onto a SD card and stick it into the wii, but we can play the same games if they are downloaded from the shop.

That is a great idea, but I doubt Nintendo would do that--put GBA games in the DSi shop. (But they may surprise me)

I'm gettng a DSi, I traded in my broken out of warranty, replaced systems, and just got about $40 more to pay on it. I'm keeping my faithful Fat DS, for the GBA insertion, and I can battle and trade between two DS's now.

Somewhere I recall seeing that Nintendo said that they planned on putting GBA games into the DSi shop. I don't recall exactly

*PrincessPika-chu* March 22nd, 2009 2:26 PM

I googled it and found like a few things. Nintendo gave no definite answer, and by knowing game developers, etc., they probably are gonna have GBA in the DSi shop, if there is an unsure answer.

It makes sense since SNES and stuff in in the Wii Shop, it won't be a huge conversion issue putting the GB/GBA games into the DSi shop. I thought about it and it's really possible.

Thanks.

I don't have any GBA games, so it isn't like I would miss the slot. Usually, I would just ask for an insertion pokemon online, or just hack it, and hatch eggs from it, to make it legit.

Cyntric March 22nd, 2009 2:28 PM

that is why the dsi is not worth upgrading for.


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