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Jarrod April 4th, 2009 6:21 PM

Games Deleting?
 
So yeah. I haven't played Yellow, Red, Blue, Silver, Gold, or Crystal in a long time.

I just recently put them into my GBA, and something weird happened.

On every game, my accounts were deleted...

How does this happen? Do accounts automatically delete when you don't play for a large amount of time?

That's stupid...

Eon-Rider April 4th, 2009 6:26 PM

The older games have a problem where the save simply gets deleted due to a battery problem.

Jarrod April 4th, 2009 6:29 PM

So is there even any point in playing them anymore if the games will just delete themselves, or what?

MessiahForHire April 4th, 2009 7:02 PM

Well, do any new saved files get deleted? It could have just been something that went funky at one point if files still save. I remember at one point my file on my Red version got deleted (this was a long time ago), but every file made since then has been saved properly. Could be something like that.

Jarrod April 4th, 2009 7:14 PM

Well on Pokemon Blue, I turned on my game and it said 'Your file has been destroyed!'

It kind of made me mad when I seen it, and never really wanted to play it since then.

Dominus Temporis April 5th, 2009 7:31 AM

I sympathize with you, the same thing happened to me recently. I decided to look at my old Crystal file, and it wasn't there... no message or anything, just gone. So I started a new file and got to Ecruteak, but when I turned it on the next day, I got a message saying "Your save file is corrupted" and it refused to let me play.

Seems like bad future-planning on the game makers' parts to me.

Morgenstern April 5th, 2009 7:38 AM

Like Eon-Rider said, I think it's something to do with the internal battery failing. I know it's possible to replace them... But it might be more hassle than it's worth, because I don't think you'll get your old save file back, and you can pick up the older games really cheaply nowadays.

The same thing happened to my Pokemon Crystal /: May he/she rest in peace xD

Harmonie April 5th, 2009 8:59 AM

Well that's weird with the first generation games. It's common in second generation games, but I've never heard of it happening with first generation games.

My first generation games work just fine, and so does my Crystal version, thankfully... But Gold and Silver, the batteries are done for. =(

Ninja Tree April 5th, 2009 9:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Envy II (Post 4505190)
Well that's weird with the first generation games. It's common in second generation games, but I've never heard of it happening with first generation games.

My first generation games work just fine, and so does my Crystal version, thankfully... But Gold and Silver, the batteries are done for. =(

Well...you CAN replace the batteries with a little bit of work. First gen games don't use so much battery power because they don't have to keep track of the time.

Limey-chan April 5th, 2009 9:17 AM

Reading things like this worries me, My Blue and Silver versions still work perfectly fine, but my concern with Silver is that the battery will die soon (To be fair, it's now 8 or 9 years old and my current game has over 300 hours racked up). I would be absolutely, genuinely gutted if that did happen as i'm pretty close to completing my Dex, I have plenty of well-trained Pokémon and basically i've got a lot of good memories of that game. Added to the fact that i've put so much time and effort into it, it'd be VERY disheartening for me.

Ninja Tree April 5th, 2009 9:44 AM

You should start looking in to things that you can possibly back up your saved data with if it's that precious.

Smooky April 5th, 2009 9:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Cooltrainer_Mike (Post 4505263)
Reading things like this worries me, My Blue and Silver versions still work perfectly fine, but my concern with Silver is that the battery will die soon (To be fair, it's now 8 or 9 years old and my current game has over 300 hours racked up). I would be absolutely, genuinely gutted if that did happen as i'm pretty close to completing my Dex, I have plenty of well-trained Pokémon and basically i've got a lot of good memories of that game. Added to the fact that i've put so much time and effort into it, it'd be VERY disheartening for me.

Maybe you should get Pokemon Stadium 2, and register your Pokemon onto it. I'm sure you can find a working N64 and game, try pawn shops or look on the internet.

Then, you'll still have something.

Hope this helps.

Limey-chan April 5th, 2009 9:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja Tree (Post 4505347)
You should start looking in to things that you can possibly back up your saved data with if it's that precious.

Yeah, that's not a bad idea actually. Transferring my Pokémon onto Stadium/Stadium 2 won't be a problem at all.

Though tbh it's not so much the data is more the fact that i've spent literally months and months of my life on that game training and raising Pokémon and trying to complete my Dex. The thought of all that time and effort being completely wiped really doesn't bode well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooky (Post 4505362)
Maybe you should get Pokemon Stadium 2, and register your Pokemon onto it. I'm sure you can find a working N64 and game, try pawn shops or look on the internet.

Then, you'll still have something.

Hope this helps.

Only just read your reply, sorry XD

But yeah, like I said above I can transfer my Pokémon onto Stadium 2 easily, that's really not a problem. It's just all the effort i've put into the game over the months and years. Would be devastated if it got lost.

That said, the game won't last forever. It's quite a morbid thought but it's a bit like death - inevitable lol.

Thanks for the advice though ^_^

s0nido April 5th, 2009 1:26 PM

There's a problem where the internal battery expires. It happened to my friend's Crystal version. The game has a battery in it which it uses to save games. Eventually, it expires.

Kevo182 April 7th, 2009 3:48 PM

What about with 4th generation games? Diamond/Pearl/Platinum.
is the same thing going to happen to these?

BlueShadow April 7th, 2009 8:06 PM

Maybe or maybe not. I think that they fixed that problem.

Valeran April 8th, 2009 1:04 AM

The way that DS and other games are handled are completely different. I'm pretty sure a DS game is just a flash chip which doesn't require it's own power source like a battery.

Unfortunately older carts of all types suffer this problem, it's not unique to Pokemon, the Game Boy or even Nintendo. So you can't really blame the "game makers" and saying it's bad future planning. Everyone single cart-based game will have the issue eventually. Game developers usually expect you to have moved onto another game they made before it happens.

Leirot April 8th, 2009 5:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominus Temporis (Post 4504769)
I sympathize with you, the same thing happened to me recently. I decided to look at my old Crystal file, and it wasn't there... no message or anything, just gone. So I started a new file and got to Ecruteak, but when I turned it on the next day, I got a message saying "Your save file is corrupted" and it refused to let me play.

Seems like bad future-planning on the game makers' parts to me.

I wouldn't go that far. You do realize the Gen 1 and Gen 2 games are uber old right? All things come to an end. The more you play it, the sooner the things gonna crap out on you. Sure, I was devastated when I turned on my Red Version (Completed Pokedex) to find the save file was gone, but...it happens. I've had the game since...3rd grade? (is in college now). My silver is also broken, but it's my fault (used the pokebox cheat thingy on it to get masterballs).

You can't really blame the maker for the game not working 10 years in the future, lol. Technology just wasn't good enough back then. Most things NOW wont last ten years.

HiroUey April 8th, 2009 5:40 AM

Its hard to let go, but i guess you have to, I have a crystal where my old save file was deleted, so i started a new one, i saved and cut off and then cut it back on, that file was also deleted. I also have a blue version that wont even start, it shows the gameboy sign and then when its suppose the years(1995-19somthing) the screen is just blank

Starom April 9th, 2009 9:40 AM

Aye - this happens to my Silver version :( It's sad because that was my favourite of all of the games I had! XD *goes to buy another copy from Amazon*

Spinda777 April 9th, 2009 9:42 AM

G/S/C have this problem sooner than many other older game cartridges due to their internal clock. The clock constantly running drains their internal battery much faster than other games.

shadowsvengance April 13th, 2009 5:44 AM

games deleting? my pokemon gold deleted it self and i was uber angry becuase i had 19 level 80 pokemon Grrrr lol

Pumpkinz 4 Mayor April 13th, 2009 6:09 AM

I think this happened because of the clock inside the game. When it reached a certain time, I think like 999:99 or something like that, the game would just be deleted, because of no more room on the save, or it would corrupt the battery and delete the save file.

Archer April 13th, 2009 7:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pumpkinz 4 Mayor (Post 4535715)
I think this happened because of the clock inside the game. When it reached a certain time, I think like 999:99 or something like that, the game would just be deleted, because of no more room on the save, or it would corrupt the battery and delete the save file.

Good theory, but no.

There's just an internal battery to keep the memory that holds the save active. Like RAM in a computer, the information is lost when the power is turned off. It effectively keeps the save memory powered on. The internal clock, which is hardware in the GBC games drains extra power and can cause the battery to drain quickly. Battery stops - Memory loses power and is wiped. Simple.

This doesn't usually occur in later games as iirc, they use flash memory or SDRAM.


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