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Inkfingers April 22nd, 2009 7:44 AM

Real pokemon guru
 
If any of you have questions on pokemon in real life like how would they breathe fire or how would they fit in a Poke`Ball or any other question, ask me and I'll answer it through science.

Åzurε April 22nd, 2009 12:16 PM

I like the idea, and I have a few theories of my own... mind if I join?

as first question, how about regice/steel/rock/gigas- mechanical? possesed chunks of material? natural pokemon?

Inkfingers April 22nd, 2009 12:58 PM

If you join heres ur job If i ever come across a really hard question or happenned to be swamped in questions then ill ask for ur help k. as for the question about the regi's registeel has a very soft and fragile inner body. It has actual steel that has been created by fusing all the materials needed to create steel, forming a natural steel. This "armor" protects the inner body, which is also very thin, the head however is very large and and the eyes glow the same way a firefly's thorax glows. there are holes in the armor so it can see. The other three I'll have to think about and I'll tell you the reasons later.

Sebastien Loeb April 22nd, 2009 1:10 PM

I have not sincerely understood, who both really this '' Pokémon guru ''.

Åzurε April 22nd, 2009 1:43 PM

Ink's the "official" guru, and I'm the backup.

I'll answer occasionally anyways, though.

also, be aware that some information may not have 100% plausible or scientific information (this is pokemon, after all), and things like legendary pokemon may have a mythical-based answer in them.

Silhouette April 22nd, 2009 2:07 PM

Tell me why Kangaskhan is born with a baby in its pouch.

Åzurε April 22nd, 2009 2:15 PM

That's just screwed up. X_x as of yet, I don't know.

the best I can come up with, it was made official before breeding came into play. In r/b, it wasn't a problem.

Silhouette April 22nd, 2009 2:17 PM

Yeah, you've got a point. Let me know when you come up with something. ^_^

Gymnotide April 22nd, 2009 2:52 PM

Fire-breathing is an easy one.

The Pokemon holds a variety of non-harmful chemicals in flame sacs found within the mouth or throat, closer to the trachea. Upon using a flame attack, the Pokemon releases a portion of the chemicals, which mix together to form a combustible mass which is to be depleted after the attack. The Pokemon exhales a great deal of air in order to set the mass ablaze and direct the fire in the desired direction. Some Pokemon should have the ability to inhale while also exhaling, owing to their apparent ability to sustain fire-breathing for long periods of time. The inside of the mouth or, I guess Skuntank's butt, should be lined with resilient epithelium that resists the intense heat given off by the attack or regenerates at a rate faster than it can be destroyed.

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For Regice, Regirock, and Registeel, I think it would be reasonable that they have some sort of conductive material inside that functions like the human nervous system, but not necessarily an entire body inside. The Pokemon should also have an energy-filled core from which it draws power from during times of need. Otherwise, it would draw from magnetic fields around the world, explaining the fact that it can use Zap Cannon, and other electrical attacks.

Åzurε April 22nd, 2009 3:14 PM

Mmm. very good on the firebreath, but I personally don't understand why the cells of the Pokemon's mouth would regenerate that fast. if so, it would have extreme mouth-druff.

I like the idea of the regis... but according to the 'Dex (taking it as fact) registeel is completely hollow. Anything there?

I'm leaning towards mech-body w/ spirit for the first 3 golem pokemon. For gigas, I need to do research.

did I use "I" enough? xD

Gymnotide April 22nd, 2009 3:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooglizer (Post 4572155)
Mmm. very good on the firebreath, but I personally don't understand why the cells of the Pokemon's mouth would regenerate that fast. if so, it would have extreme mouth-druff.

Stimulating the flame sacs will activate the nearby endocrine glands which release a hormone targeting the mouth cells (or Skuntank's butt cells). Upon binding, the hormone cascades and stimulates the increased production of ribosomes and nucleic acids. Moreover, the cells are launched into a hyper-proliferating state.

Åzurε April 22nd, 2009 3:21 PM

*spine broken by sheer bio-logic* XD I get it now. not that being that smart is a bad thing.

Gymnotide April 22nd, 2009 3:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Silhouette (Post 4571971)
Tell me why Kangaskhan is born with a baby in its pouch.

Also, how come Mantine was born with Remoraid in Gen II and III, but not in IV? :D

Åzurε April 22nd, 2009 3:44 PM

the Remoraid got bored of that question, and so has taken a break to go have it's own sprite instead. :P

Ho-Oh April 22nd, 2009 7:45 PM

Why are Slowpoke tails edible?

Åzurε April 22nd, 2009 8:51 PM

One might also ask: why are cow balls edible? xDDD
They just are. I don't think they should be deemed fit for human consumption, but they are.

pokerus34 April 22nd, 2009 9:15 PM

In Pokemon World, Thundershocks are just like kicks in butts.

But in the Real World, what would it feel?

Haha!

P.S.:)

Gymnotide April 22nd, 2009 9:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerus34 (Post 4572954)
In Pokemon World, Thundershocks are just like kicks in butts.

But in the Real World, what would it feel?

Haha!

P.S. = Support Pokemon Times! Post on my Newspaper Thread! :)

The same as getting shocked by a taser or getting hit by a lightning bolt.
Weaker electrical attacks would just cause temporary, short-term loss of motor functions or numbness, like a low taser setting. Stronger ones would completely overload the neurons in the body and cause pain and overload of the entire nervous system.

Also, your spam just makes me feel less like posting there.

Åzurε April 22nd, 2009 9:27 PM

Gymno has a point on the Newspaper... Put it in your sig or do something.

Tacogeddon April 22nd, 2009 9:53 PM

One has to wonder how Porygon can even exist, while it is artificial, it's apparently not a robotic being, as the description says it's "made completely out of programming code" yet it's obviously quite solid and alive. Unless Silph Co. has a 3D printer that can also endow a programmed AI with form.

Åzurε April 22nd, 2009 10:06 PM

2 guesses:
1) there is a small device which (besides being nigh-on-impossible to create right now) scans a phyical design and projects it as a solid hologram, also containing a CPU and some small sensors to give it the appearance of life.

2) A device at the Silph, Co. building controls every instance of Porygon (perhaps Porygon2) distributed among the masses by a form of digital wave akin to those which your TV receives through a sattelite service. This wave allows the being to keep it's tangibility, while sending and recieving information to allow it to function as a living being.

these are both based on the assumption that porygon is hollow on the inside, like a videogame graphic when you position the camera funny.

Tacogeddon April 22nd, 2009 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooglizer (Post 4573019)
like a videogame graphic when you position the camera funny.

Porygon, the living clipping error!

Of course, it gets more confusing if you consider that they can mate and lay eggs, unless that too is all more "soligram" trickery.

Åzurε April 22nd, 2009 10:20 PM

to the best of my abilities, yes. that's pretty much it. xD I'll try to get back to you if I ever come up with a better solution.

KostK2Boss April 23rd, 2009 4:21 AM

Here's a good one, guru: Why do pokemon like Meowth, Wailord, Munchlax, etc. - mammals in common sense - lay eggs?
Another question is: Are Koffing, Voltrob, Magnemite and Bronzor pokemon entirely manufactured by humans, or just "machines" made by humans and coming to life thanks to an unseen force?

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 23rd, 2009 8:36 AM

All pokemon are secretly reptiles XD. But you have to wonder about the people in pokemon world...

Milke April 23rd, 2009 9:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4572090)
Fire-breathing is an easy one.

The Pokemon holds a variety of non-harmful chemicals in flame sacs found within the mouth or throat, closer to the trachea. Upon using a flame attack, the Pokemon releases a portion of the chemicals, which mix together to form a combustible mass which is to be depleted after the attack. The Pokemon exhales a great deal of air in order to set the mass ablaze and direct the fire in the desired direction. Some Pokemon should have the ability to inhale while also exhaling, owing to their apparent ability to sustain fire-breathing for long periods of time. The inside of the mouth or, I guess Skuntank's butt, should be lined with resilient epithelium that resists the intense heat given off by the attack or regenerates at a rate faster than it can be destroyed.

- - - - -

For Regice, Regirock, and Registeel, I think it would be reasonable that they have some sort of conductive material inside that functions like the human nervous system, but not necessarily an entire body inside. The Pokemon should also have an energy-filled core from which it draws power from during times of need. Otherwise, it would draw from magnetic fields around the world, explaining the fact that it can use Zap Cannon, and other electrical attacks.

This is a good response. Scientific. You other guys are just copying the pokedex and sprites.


As for my question, how do pokeballs work? How do you shrink a 1,000+ pound pokemon(like Groudon) into a baseball-sized capsule? And how do they shrink and grow?

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 23rd, 2009 9:09 AM

I believe that they've somehow mastered the science of matter to energy transfers, and the reverse. However, seeing as the pokeballs also involve light and sound (forms of energy) it means that theoretically, each time a pokemon was released or returned, it would lose some energy/matter and thus change its shape...

Inkfingers April 23rd, 2009 9:19 AM

kangaskahn isnt born w/ a baby it goes through a very long cycle. at the age of birth to the age of two they have fun like human babies. At age three they are are taught parenting skills till the age of twenty. Then they are let into the wild to breed. finding a mate is very easy for a kangaskahn because they are all so close. They then breed and the female is left to care for the baby. If the male happens to ever come across the path of that kangaskahn, they must take responsibility for the child, hence male kangaskahn.

kangaskahn arent born with babies they are allowed to be free until age three and are taught parenting skills until age twenty. They go through many tests of parenthood one including taking care of a poke doll(kangaskahn baby of course). They are then let out into the wild and the females must find a male. They then breed and the male leaves, just as polaar bears do. If that same male were to cross paths with that same female, the male must take the baby if the mother allows it to, and raise the child, hence male kangaskahns.

Fire breathing: great assumption gymnotide but it is wrong. fire breathing is caused by the grinding of iron pyrite and flint. a pokemon that has the ability to breathe has two sacs located on the pallet and lower jaw. They take the metals and store them seperately in each sac, flint on top. when the pokemon breathes fire, it uses its tongue to release the metals and they fall into its back teeth used for grinding and grinds the flint and iron pyrite to ignite it. The pokemon has a large amount of hydrogen stored in a third lung that is smaller than the other two. It breathes outward very hard to get to fire to spurt out of its mouth. Fire type pokemon have very large amounts of saliva that it uses to cover the teeth, tongue, and inner mouth to protect its mouth from be burned or melted. However, there is not enough saliva to douse the fire. once then pokemon stops breathing out, the fire stops.

Remoraid is similar to kangaskahn, but instead it forms a very close bond with the mantine. They were very close friends until the remoraid had a very large growth in population and made closer friends with each other. It's sort of a tribal kid of thing. Mantine and remoraid are still friends, but they no longer travel in pairs together.

A slowpoke's tail is made of pure muscle, skin, bone, and meat. The tail is skinned, deboned, demuscled(if that's even a word) and wella, slopoke tail. It has been said to taste similar to a ham.

A thundershock is much more serious in reality and can cause paralasys, skin cancer, and even death.

Porygon is created by a series of very difficult computer codes. It is then transferred through pure energy through energy conversion to a poke'ball, just as a pokemon is released and called back into a pokeball(description of a poke'ball is very long and will be answered in another post).

Pokemon are a species of mixed species(keep that in mind) For example, bulbasaur is a mix of a plant and an animal and golduck is a mix of a reptile and a duck. So those pokemon aren't full mammals, I guess you could say. They have the ability to lay eggs by having the same reproductive system birds do. I'm not going to get into that for several reasons.

Like cloyster, pokemon have an inner body The metals on pokemon are naturally made by a very complex mixing system and create an outer shell, though it's not always made of metal.

Dunder Mifflinite. First of all I have to use to pokedex info to get my facts straight. Second the description of a pokeball will take up an ENTIRE PAGE OF POST INFO. So please be more specific. ask questions about specific parts and I'll answer them bit by bit. Okay.?

Oh, and Gymnotide. Welcome to the team. If anyone else wants to join you have to ask and I'll tell you if you can or can't. I'll ask you a question and tell me how it happens. To everyone out there who's helping me out: Thank you guys so much for helpin out but it's fine, I'll handle it. So please if someone asks a question, let me take care of it. And to the team(Mooglizer and Gymnotide, Thanks for ur help but please only help if I ask for it). Also, thanks to all my supporters. I didn't think this topic would be so popular. Thanks guys.

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 23rd, 2009 11:06 AM

Ummm...Inkfingers, not to be rude, but Kangaskhan are born with babies. Hatch one yourself and you'll see. Plus, how exactly do you know that you are the one who's right about fire-breathing? Surely, this is really just a thread of speculation and theorizing, so you can't say that something is definitely right or wrong :S.

Åzurε April 24th, 2009 9:46 AM

[email protected] is right, after all. We can only come up with something logical (or logic+forces of nature as deities+ nonexistent technology+the confirmed existence of ghosts) with which to answer a given question.

[email protected] hee hee. I tickled myself.

Inkfingers April 24th, 2009 1:07 PM

Okay guys I'm sorry about that fire breathing thing. I mixed it up and didn't do enough research. Here's the deal, all pokemon who have teeth use the grinding technique and those who are absent of teeth use the flame sac method. Here are all of the fire pokemon in order:

Grinding Flame Sac Other
Charmander Vulpix Slugma
Charmeleon Ninetales Magcargo
Charizard Ponyta Torkoal
Growlithe Rapidash
Arcanine Magmar
Cyndaquil Flareon
Quilava Moltres
Typhlosion Magby
Houndour Ho-oh
Hoiundoom Entei
Numel Torchic
Camerupt Combusken
Chimchar Blaziken
Monfernape Chimchar
Heatran Monferno
Infernape
Magmortar

Okay Dunder. Here's how the pokemon shrinks. Let's say you're call ing back a pokemon into its ball. You swiftly stroke your thumb back on the bottom of the ball activating motion sensor, opening the pokemon conatainment area. The pokemon is then transferred into the ball by using energy conversion(the pokemon is converted into pure energy) and stored into the pokemon containment area. There its particles, that were once broken down, are then reassembled into a miniature pokemon! This process is similar to Wonkavision Featured in Charlie and the Chocolate factory. A DNA analyzer quickly scans the room around for the pokemon, and identifies its type and living conditions and projects a holographic enviroment for the pokemon. The process of being let out will be discussed later.

Wyyrlokk April 24th, 2009 2:14 PM

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Originally Posted by I Laugh at your Misfortune! (Post 4574188)
Ummm...Inkfingers, not to be rude, but Kangaskhan are born with babies. Hatch one yourself and you'll see. Plus, how exactly do you know that you are the one who's right about fire-breathing? Surely, this is really just a thread of speculation and theorizing, so you can't say that something is definitely right or wrong :S.

I think they aren´t. Well, they have that baby in the games of course, but the games show only a very small part of a functionable world. Why don´t need Pokemon food or why don´t you have to feed them? Why don´t they have to, well, go to the toilet? Why could baby Pokemon hatch eggs already? That are some logical mistakes which are indebted by the fact that the game should be as small as possible (because it´s still huge enough). I think to program a sprite for a baby kangaskhan without a baby (lol...) would be too much work and, by the way, stupid, because nearly every other pokemon would need an own baby sprite then, too. I think in Kangaskhan´s case we are requested to think of a logical solution and not to stick as close to the games as possible.

But, after all, that´s only my personal opinion. You may have, of course, your own.

Inkfingers April 24th, 2009 2:29 PM

Thanks Wrrylok. I like the way u think. He's exactly right. Now look at it this way guys. The baby kangaskahn in the game is just a fluke, that's all. In reality, they cannot be born with a baby. The explaination I gave is logical and makes sense. Plus, when you think about it, Why is it that when a kangaskahn is hatched, it is an adult kangaskahn, not the baby in the pouch? All it is is a game thing.

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 24th, 2009 2:32 PM

Wyyrlokk - I'm fully aware that in a logical world, Kangaskhan wouldn't give birth to babies that already had their own babies...because that's kind illogical >.< I was just pointing out that we have only ever seen a kangaskhan hatching with a baby in its pouch, so we can't say for sure that it doesn;t happen like that.

My own personal theory is that it isn't actually a baby, but more of a smaller pokemon which shares some kind of mental connection with the big version. in a way, the small one is like a brain to the larger one which is separated from the body...if that makes any sense at all :P But hey, its pokemon. It doesn't have to make sense XD

Inkfingers April 24th, 2009 2:33 PM

If that's not good enough for you guys though here you go: Kahngaskahn's baby isn't actually a baby, It's a part of its body. Like an angler fish, kangaskahn controls its extra attatchment, just as humans control their arms and legs.

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 24th, 2009 2:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkfingers (Post 4577907)
If that's not good enough for you guys though here you go: Kahngaskahn's baby isn't actually a baby, It's a part of its body. Like an angler fish, kangaskahn controls its extra attatchment, just as humans control their arms and legs.

hey, your idea's like mine but the other way around...kinda XD

Inkfingers April 24th, 2009 2:36 PM

Now I have an answer to the regis too. Every one of them is not completely an element. In fact, what you see on the outside is like a very hard shell. Inside each regi, there is a nervous system that controls every part of the body.

sorta ya. oh and for that egg laying question, It's like a platypus, it's a mammal(though the platypus is the only mammal to lay eggs) A mammal that las eggs.

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 24th, 2009 2:39 PM

But wasn't Registeel stated to be completely hollow? In that case, only the "spirits possessing machines" idea makes sense.

Inkfingers April 24th, 2009 2:40 PM

Btw, how do u guys think I'm doin as the pokemon guru? Do my explanations make sense, gimmie some feedback here.

The nervous system is fused together w/ the armor. It is also very thin, making it completely hollow.

Raaji April 24th, 2009 2:44 PM

How about things like potions. Although I think I can probably describe it I wana see If your theory is different, here's mine. The potion Is somthing on the lines of nanotechnology, the stuff inside of the potion imideietly(sp?) healing the organic matter that it touches.

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 24th, 2009 2:55 PM

^ has raised a good point, actually. How the heck does something like Muk even EXIST?

Inkfingers April 24th, 2009 3:04 PM

Okay this is kinda tricky. The potion. Very good assumption. another way of doing that is by having a healing type medicine with a steroid in it, but not so much that it's like an illegal drug, just enough to speed up the healing process. Kinda like how sometimes babies are born w/ certain problems and need steroids to survive, you know?

Muk.Muk's body is composed of a more jelly like substance. It's kind of like a jelly fish that can move on land, is made up of a thicker jelly like substance and has eyes.

I haven't given potions a lot of thought.

Tacogeddon April 24th, 2009 3:27 PM

Muk could also be a giant unicellular blob, a giant amoeba.

Oh, and judging by how fast potions heal, they could be some kind of nanomachine spray that stitches together wounds and accelerates healing on the molecular level, it's the only way I can imagine a totally topical medicine healing the most greivous of wounds.

Gymnotide April 24th, 2009 3:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkfingers (Post 4573952)
Fire breathing: great assumption gymnotide but it is wrong. fire breathing is caused by the grinding of iron pyrite and flint. a pokemon that has the ability to breathe has two sacs located on the pallet and lower jaw. They take the metals and store them seperately in each sac, flint on top. when the pokemon breathes fire, it uses its tongue to release the metals and they fall into its back teeth used for grinding and grinds the flint and iron pyrite to ignite it. The pokemon has a large amount of hydrogen stored in a third lung that is smaller than the other two. It breathes outward very hard to get to fire to spurt out of its mouth. Fire type pokemon have very large amounts of saliva that it uses to cover the teeth, tongue, and inner mouth to protect its mouth from be burned or melted. However, there is not enough saliva to douse the fire. once then pokemon stops breathing out, the fire stops.

lol. I like how you completely refute my completely plausible theory with that... Well.

The problem is that given the nature of glands and / or sacs in the body, they would need to be comprised of muscular tissue, lined with heavy epithelium. The palate is hard and impervious to most substances, due to the proximity of the mouth cavity to the upper skull. The bottom is laden with salivary glands, which cannot afford to be displaced for other structures. Since the glands you mention are located in the palate and the jaw, your theory is an impossibility. The top is simply too hard and neither side has enough room to store such glands.

In addition, the material mentioned would be completely out of question, given their natures. Bodies cannot produce flint nor pyrite, and therefore must consume it from an outside source. In addition, flint is very easily degraded, and over time will become powdery and inefficient in making a fire. The Pokemon would need to continually consume flint to renew its fire-breathing ability. Both grainy substances would harm the vital glands, the brain, or otherwise. Not all Pokemon eat such materials. Furthermore, flint and pyrite cannot be placed further back in the mouth or else they will cut the spinal cord, thyroid, etc. Flint maybe, but definitely not pyrite. It would function like a gizzard.

Hydrogen gas is completely implausible. Since hydrogen is half as light as oxygen gas, it will float. The lung within would rise and the body would also slightly elevate. This also limits the amount of hydrogen gases present in the body, since if the lung was a large enough mass, the body would be unable to keep itself grounded. Given the fact that Pokemon can sustrain flame-based attacks for long periods of time, it is improbable that such an organ exists, since it would require a large amount of gases (and therefore a larger lung). Since you describe the substance as a "lung," it must continually exchange the hydrogen gas, which there simply isn't enough of in the world - 1 part per million in air. If it were a hydrogen-filled sac, the same problem arises. There is just simply not enough hydrogen to refill the sacs. In addition, the amount of gas released would only cause a small EXPLOSION, not a stream of flames. The Pokemon's head would explode. Hydrogen gas also spontaneously combusts at 560 degrees - Pokemon living in volcanoes and those hit with flame-based attacks would surely explode.

And the saliva thing. Don't be silly. Saliva cannot possibly ward away a fire. It would heat up like boiling water and sear the inner membrane of the mouth. Then, it would evaporate and the hot fumes would bombard the upper membrane of the mouth, some passing through nasal passages and rupturing that epithelium. If there is enough, the saliva would douse the flame.

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Originally Posted by Inkfingers
Okay this is kinda tricky. The potion. Very good assumption. another way of doing that is by having a healing type medicine with a steroid in it, but not so much that it's like an illegal drug, just enough to speed up the healing process. Kinda like how sometimes babies are born w/ certain problems and need steroids to survive, you know?

Muk.Muk's body is composed of a more jelly like substance. It's kind of like a jelly fish that can move on land, is made up of a thicker jelly like substance and has eyes.

1. That is not what a steroid does. Steroids are regulators, not activators (er, they can activate, but only indirectly). The healing process requires inflammatory response, followed by clotting and repair. A steroid could not possibly perform these functions, though they can regulate them. The only steroid which can possibly maintain this function is an anabolic steroid, but those cannot work as quickly as the Potion. Moreover, steroids would stimulate the body to repair itself, but they cannot speed the process up faster than the body can already regenerate.

2. If it were jelly, it would need constant bathing in liquid or else it would dry out and become crusty. More likely, Muk just secretes a mucous substance.

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Originally Posted by Inkfingers
A slowpoke's tail is made of pure muscle, skin, bone, and meat. The tail is skinned, deboned, demuscled(if that's even a word) and wella, slopoke tail. It has been said to taste similar to a ham.

You overlooked the fact that muscle IS the meat that we eat. Pork chop? That's thigh muscle.

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Originally Posted by Tacogeddon
Muk could also be a giant unicellular blob, a giant amoeba.

Not enough surface area. Can't be single-celled.

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 24th, 2009 3:43 PM

I wonder if maybe Muk has a solid body underneath the goo, whihc then (as gymnotide suggested) then secretes...the goo :P It would explain how Muk is, y'know, able to eat solid food and all.

Tacogeddon April 24th, 2009 3:49 PM

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Originally Posted by I Laugh at your Misfortune! (Post 4578146)
I wonder if maybe Muk has a solid body underneath the goo, whihc then (as gymnotide suggested) then secretes...the goo :P It would explain how Muk is, y'know, able to eat solid food and all.

I could imagine it being slug-like under the ooze, the flat area underneath it being like a slug's "foot."

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 24th, 2009 3:51 PM

Lol, like a slug with some slime-making gland that's gone into overdrive? It's not completely impossible...I think XD

Spinor April 24th, 2009 3:56 PM

Ok, explain to me how Team Galactic gets their Pokeballs if they have no belt around their waist or any pockets or anything to carry them with in that tight uniform, please :3



http://www.pokezam.com/news/data/upimages/Team_Galactic.bmp

Gymnotide April 24th, 2009 3:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ΩGodotΩ (Post 4578167)
Ok, explain to me how Team Galactic gets their Pokeballs if they have no belt around their waist or any pockets or anything to carry them with in that tight uniform, please :3



http://www.pokezam.com/news/data/upimages/Team_Galactic.bmp

They can convert Poke Balls into energy, like Poke Balls do to Pokemon.
They store them in their fingertips within a mechanical device.

Inkfingers April 24th, 2009 4:23 PM

Gymno I'm really sorry for that thing about you being wrong and all. but listen. I'll prove you wrong. W/ The sacs, let me expand. If you were touch your pallete and go back, not far enough to touch your uvula, but near or in front of it, you would notice a softer area. For fire pokemon, that is where the sac is on the top. Now before you correct me on how you need that softer area that is in the back, not in the throat, but moreso near it. Fire pokemon do not have tonsles, leaving room for that area. The lower area is not there though, you got me there.
The bodies do not produce flint or pyrite, they find and store it. The sacs have a lining on the inside, preventing any harm to the body. They do not consume the minerals, they use and grind them. The grainy material is burned through the fire, actually strengthening it. And yes, they do go and find more flint and iron pyrite when they run out. The pokemon rids of any harmful material by simply just washing & spitting it back out just as a human dumps waste products. Also the mineral sacs do not lead to the brain or any other part of the body. It is a thin flap with just enough room to store the minerals, meaning it is closed off.
Okay I didn't think of the hydrogen build up. So sue me. But the pokemon releases oxygen, nitrogen,argon,and carbon dioxidea.k.a. airand a pretty big amount. You did get me on that one.
Let me change the saliva thing. That was my first thought(I've thought about fire breathing before) and that was my first guess, but here's what really happens. It's simple, the pokemon opens its mouth wide enough so that a slender jet of fire exerts from the mouth and grows.
There you go man.


I don't know much about muk and potions so ya but that slug idea is really good

Gymno said it all on that one. Late on typing

Tacogeddon April 24th, 2009 5:35 PM

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Bombardier Beetle in all of this, they mix reactant chemicals into a stream of near-boiling liquid that deals death to other tiny critters.

dc_united April 24th, 2009 5:39 PM

I've got a question-

Apricorn. Apparently, in the good ol' days of salad and glory, you used to capture Pokemon using a fruit used in baby foods. You've already explained pokeballs, but how could Apricorns give off enough energy to transport pokemon, unless they were dangerously radioactive?

Inkfingers April 24th, 2009 7:13 PM

Very good question, but actually, the apricorn is not what gives off the energy. The apricorn is used as a base for the pokeball. Like something is made out of metal or plastic, the pokeball is made from a apricorn shell, and the technology to do all tthe things it does, like transferring pokemon into energy, iss added. kinda like a cell phone, the tecnology is inside, but it has a plastic cover, hiding all that technology.

Åzurε April 24th, 2009 7:47 PM

Dude, I missed out on some good questions. Stupid lawnmower...

Anyhow. Ya'know inkfinger (I really dislike commenting stuff like this), I don't think you gave a satisfactory answer above there.you explained pokeballs somewhat, as a given technology, but not how apricorns could contain pokeball-type technology in the first place...
I think perhaps there could be a certain chemical/element somewhere inside said nut- probably on the inside layer of the shell- which had a tendency to transmute matter to energy, and vice versa, when disturbed, such as by impact or pressure. As another point of the same discussion, I believe there was something about having to modify the apricorn slightly, such as by hollowing out the inside, hence the placing of the material. so, the Apricorn would have the ability to contain the pokemon inside, and the age and quality of the nut, plus the skill of the craftsman doing the hollowing and other alterations, would define how effective the Apricorns were at capturing them. Modern pokeball makers would have manufactured the containment material in different quantities and types, and made them possible to activate with the press of a button.

I forgot the return function! :O

Perhaps the composition of the Apricorn would hold information somehow? like a genetic outline of sorts. Pokeballs might replicate this through the use of a small computer between the inner and outer shells.

The computers between the Pokeballs, PC box, and Trainer profile on the PokeDex, would make it possible to teleport pokeballs to the PC box after the Trainer already has registered 6 pokemon for their party. (which means anyone allowed to use Pokedex-upgrading devices could hack themselves the abilities to carry more than 6 pokeballs at a time! >:D)

Gymnotide April 24th, 2009 9:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkfingers (Post 4578242)
Gymno I'm really sorry for that thing about you being wrong and all. but listen. I'll prove you wrong. W/ The sacs, let me expand. If you were touch your pallete and go back, not far enough to touch your uvula, but near or in front of it, you would notice a softer area. For fire pokemon, that is where the sac is on the top. Now before you correct me on how you need that softer area that is in the back, not in the throat, but moreso near it. Fire pokemon do not have tonsles, leaving room for that area. The lower area is not there though, you got me there.
The bodies do not produce flint or pyrite, they find and store it. The sacs have a lining on the inside, preventing any harm to the body. They do not consume the minerals, they use and grind them. The grainy material is burned through the fire, actually strengthening it. And yes, they do go and find more flint and iron pyrite when they run out. The pokemon rids of any harmful material by simply just washing & spitting it back out just as a human dumps waste products. Also the mineral sacs do not lead to the brain or any other part of the body. It is a thin flap with just enough room to store the minerals, meaning it is closed off.
Okay I didn't think of the hydrogen build up. So sue me. But the pokemon releases oxygen, nitrogen,argon,and carbon dioxidea.k.a. airand a pretty big amount. You did get me on that one.
Let me change the saliva thing. That was my first thought(I've thought about fire breathing before) and that was my first guess, but here's what really happens. It's simple, the pokemon opens its mouth wide enough so that a slender jet of fire exerts from the mouth and grows.
There you go man.


I don't know much about muk and potions so ya but that slug idea is really good

Gymno said it all on that one. Late on typing

Just woke up, so I'll just keep this short and sweet.
  • The palatine uvula would be the worst place to put it since that is where the space between the nasal passage and the mouth cavity is the thinnest. There is not possibly enough room back there.
  • "Finding and storing" is exactly what I meant by consume.
  • Grinding the material would only degrade it. Burning the materials would also do the same thing; burning the material in no way strengthens it.
  • If they are thin, then they would be more prone to damage -- the surfaces of the gland are closer to each other than if they were larger, and therefore more prone to damage from the stony substances found within when releasing.
  • Nitrogen is unflammable, otherwise when you light a match in midair, the entire environment would go ablaze -- our air is mainly composed of diatomic nitrogen. Argon is highly unflammable, having a very low boiling point and low heat conductivity. In fact, it is the stuff used in fire extinguishers. The same does for carbon dioxide. If it is air, the only vital part is the oxygen gas.
  • Oh yeah, it's definitely not hydrogen. I forgot the fact that diatomic hydrogen is impossible to make with the body. You will end up with H+ ions instead of the required hydrogen atoms. The H+ would then rupture every membrane it touches lol. And then, the hydrogen gas, if it does form by some manner of impossibility, is small enough to diffuse out of the body.
  • Grinding powder with the teeth can't possibly make a fire every time.
  • The pyrite would also heat up and sear whatever it touches. The flint would just decompose into chalky black ash.
  • If the body shoots a thin jet, they will need to breathe out really hard. That would put out the fire and expel the grains of material.

Wyyrlokk April 24th, 2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4578174)
They can convert Poke Balls into energy, like Poke Balls do to Pokemon.
They store them in their fingertips within a mechanical device.

Well... lol. xD

If we are at that point already, how could you carry a bike, some rods, hundreds of potions, balls, stones and other items in such a little backpack or handbag? I think it´s the same way like that female warriors in a fantasy game - they wear nothing more than boots and steel bras, although it seems to be stupid to wear... well, nearly nothing while facing a mob of orks/a dragon/ some evil henchmen. But it looks good, so they programmed it that way. Not very logical, but again the "make it easy"-decision of Nintendo probably.

Well, in Galactic´s case, they maybe just forget to draw the belt here. For no obvious reason, because it wouldn´t look bad. The Rockets have one, too.
But, as we know, the Galactic henchmen always loose their Pokemon if the´ve lost a fight, so maybe this two had to give back their Pokemon and therefore don´t need a belt actually. xD

Gymnotide April 25th, 2009 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4579282)
Well... lol. xD

If we are at that point already, how could you carry a bike, some rods, hundreds of potions, balls, stones and other items in such a little backpack or handbag? I think it´s the same way like that female warriors in a fantasy game - they wear nothing more than boots and steel bras, although it seems to be stupid to wear... well, nearly nothing while facing a mob of orks/a dragon/ some evil henchmen. But it looks good, so they programmed it that way. Not very logical, but again the "make it easy"-decision of Nintendo probably.

Well, in Galactic´s case, they maybe just forget to draw the belt here. For no obvious reason, because it wouldn´t look bad. The Rockets have one, too.
But, as we know, the Galactic henchmen always loose their Pokemon if the´ve lost a fight, so maybe this two had to give back their Pokemon and therefore don´t need a belt actually. xD

lol, we convert the Bikes, Rods, Repels, TM 26, Black Flute, Cleanse Tag, Iron Ball, Black Sludge, HM 04, Cheri Berry, Heal Ball, etc. into energy and store it within the backpack, which is secretly a Poke Ball-like device.

Oh yeah. Forgot that a lot of the Grunts don't have Pikmin.

Wyyrlokk April 25th, 2009 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4579292)
lol, we convert the Bikes, Rods, Repels, TM 26, Black Flute, Cleanse Tag, Iron Ball, Black Sludge, HM 04, Cheri Berry, Heal Ball, etc. into energy and store it within the backpack, which is secretly a Poke Ball-like device.

Oh yeah. Forgot that a lot of the Grunts don't have Pikmin.


That doesn´t sound very logical to me. xD Besides, in the PokeSpec it seems to be that the characters don´t have such a magical backpack (but they carry also not that many stuff with them...). Ok. I guess I have to make my own decision here, to see it as a rpg-player would see it - there are no weight-limits, so you have to make your own and limit your inventory by your own. xD

In fact, that problem exist in many games. You carry thousands of items with you, although this is nearly impossible.
When you play a game where your character only can carry a limited weight, you are really annoyed sometimes by reality, after playing games with such a "magical backpack" - for example "S.T.A.L.K.E.R." - only 50 kg, which means you really have to decide what you want to take with you. A medikit? Another gun? Some more ammunition? Some food? That´s quite cool and makes the game harder than a game like Pokemon where you allowed to carry everything you want to. In that way, the first games (RBY) were closer to reality - you could only carry 20 different items in your backpack.

Inkfingers April 25th, 2009 12:55 PM

All the items fold and unfold for more room, like some stock on guns. The bike, the frame fols and the tires's rubber outside comes off. the spokes fold. Also, many items are smaller, therefore, there's more room in the bag. Gymno, why don't you say we just drop the fire breathing crap. I just wanna move on and answer more questions and get off this subject. And If u say it doesn't make sense, another thing that doesn't, the it's kinda like a bee I guess. Their body's wiegh more than their wings, and therefore should not be able to fly. There so just drop it. Please. And the apricorn thing, I don't get what's so hard about it. The Appricorn has no technology whatsoever. That's just a base for the technology BUILT on the inside.

dumbpikAchu April 25th, 2009 1:59 PM

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Originally Posted by I Laugh at your Misfortune! (Post 4573880)
All pokemon are secretly reptiles XD.

then me, a Pikachu that somehow misteriously ate a Charizard is secretly a reptile? I DO have some Skitty somewhere in there, and some wolverine, but...
No question :D

sabrina_diamond April 25th, 2009 4:06 PM

Here's a really good question: How do Evolution stones, Deepsea teeth and Light-ball work if they trans-mutate Pokemon such as Eevee and Camperl, especially if the items are held by Pokemon in the Daycare? Does the Elemental radiation from the Evolution stone affect the Pokemon?

Also, when Pokemon breed, how come the Eggs hatched Pokemon resemble the mother/female and yet can learn attacks from both their parents :D

Åzurε April 25th, 2009 6:08 PM

Ink, IMO there isn't technology per say in an Apricorn, but if it was just a nut, you could very well use anything with a hard shell for capturing pokemon. Is this what you're getting at?

well, for the elemental stones, I assume it would have to be activated somehow, like the aforementioned energy-matter compound in my note on everyone's favorite nuts. Although, in one of the early episodes of the anime, I remember a large colony of eggsecute(sp) traveling across a place made of leaf stone, and evolving into Exeggutor. My guess, a willingness to evolve exerted by the pokemon in question and/or it's trainer, in the presence of the material needed to evolve. Note that this is of course the anime, and not the games, so they had to insert item-link evolutions differently, which brings us to your next point, the link items. Perhaps the pokemon holding the item would, as data, mingle with the item's code, and react to it physically at the earliest opportunity, which would be directly after the trade.

I don't know how to explain egg moves, except something akin to the hereditary knowledge shown by Saphira in the Inheritance Cycle (a.k.a., Eragon). And that was basically unexplained.

Monochrome April 25th, 2009 6:23 PM

My questions are..

-What is a ditto made of andy why is it solid enough to still have a face and eyes, what makes it able to become other Pokemon? And if its genetic code is so easily changed why isn't it affected by evolution stones like Eevee? Why can't a ditto evolve from the Pokemon its copying either.. If its a complete copy I mean...

- What makes one pokeball more effective than another? Why if there exists a masterball are kids still getting crappy pokeballs that suck? Is there a mass manufacturing plant for pokeballs?

- Let's just say for the sake of science the theory of evolution is true and humans evolve from animals... What went on in the Pokemon universe and why arent humans capturable by Pokeballs... It has been proven that humans arent capturable and it makes them drowzy or something dun remember!

-What is a cubones skull exactly and how is it born with it when the pokedex says it is the skull of its mother... Does it kill its mother?

- Does slowking still have a lag in pain like he did as a slowpoke or a slowbro... Because I'd assume with the poisons being pumped into his brain from the shellder that he would still feel the same effects

-how exactly do ghost Pokemon work like Gastly... it is said he is quite literally gas..

-How exactly did humans find out about Arceus?

-WHY DO POKEMON MAKE EGGS IN DAYCARE AND WHY DO THE OLD PEOPLE JUST SIT AND LET THEM... MAKE EGGS? DX

(JUST SOME QUESTIONS TO PONDER OVER!)

Åzurε April 25th, 2009 6:32 PM

Alright, down to it, then.

1) Ditto is made of a variation of the liquid comprising the majority of an amoeba, and the face area is it's nucleus. At best guess it has to come into contact with the DNA or material of whatever it's trying to copy. Were this the case, It wouldn't be affected by elemental stones at all, unless it wanted to become one (and IMO still wouldn't work because of a seemingly more mystical quality in the little rocks...)

2) I said something about it in the Apricorn bit... Pokeballs are likely mass manufactured, and use the lowest-quality and easiest-to-obtain capturing material, minus any special properties from real Apricorns. By that, A masterball (in addition to the risk of giving it to a a real jackarse who'll misuse it) would take very long and be very expensive to produce such a high quality material, and would likely take a real professional to get it in without messing it up.

3) Well, it might be a deviation in the DNA that causes it, or the 'balls could just be programmed to capture only living beings ID'ed as Pokemon.

4) Huh. Well, perhaps Cubone do in fact grow a second skull, on the outside of the one beneath their skin, which becomes removable once the Cubone is fully grown. The Pokemon might take the skull of a dead Marowak and throw out it's naturally grown one, due to instinct.

5) Shellder are non-toxic (like crayons! xD). any fluid secreted could be actually be beneficial to brain function.

6) I don't quite understand. Explain further?

7) A small sect of the Ninten-Do tribe saw it in person, and distributed the information to other areas. XDDD

or... It was active for a while during the earlier days of humanity, assuming again darwinian macroevolution existed like that.

Monochrome April 25th, 2009 6:36 PM

I'm still confused though.... WHy wouldn't the evolutionary stones work? I mean supposedly Eevees DNA is easily changed which is why it has so many evolutions .. so why wouldnt ditto type change?

And why wouldn't they just sell masterballs or ultra balls to everyone? I mean that's like selling a huting rifle that doesn't kill...

Åzurε April 25th, 2009 6:59 PM

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...it has to come into contact with the DNA or material of whatever it's trying to copy.
It doesn't evolve, it just changes form.

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...it (in addition to the risk of giving it to a a real jackarse who'll misuse it) would take very long and be very expensive to produce such a high quality material, and would likely take a real professional to get it in without messing it up.
Besides that, you gain access to more powerful balls after getting more badges now. so, a trainer with 1-2 badges only would need to worry about catching pokemon catchable with a pokeball.

Monochrome April 25th, 2009 8:49 PM

Well...

It says directly in the Pokedex and in many other sources the reason the Shellder gives the slowking intelligence is that it puts toxins in its brain...

Oh and I mean how did are humans so sure Arceus was the first i mean sureits in legend but where did they figure it out... Technically wouldn't it all be speculation if not for its existance within the actual game?

And i know this is stupid to ask but I'm really interested in this... is there anyway I could hope on the... POKEGURU Bandwagon?

Blaziken_Boy April 25th, 2009 9:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumner (Post 4582775)
Oh and I mean how did are humans so sure Arceus was the first i mean sure it's in legend but where did they figure it out... Technically wouldn't it all be speculation if not for its existence within the actual game?

The Pokeballs were specially designed to react to an oil secreted by human skin and not capture. However, the Pokeball has to stun the Pokemon it targets for a brief moment to be able to convert it, and this stun can't be overcome by modifications, explaining why in the anime when someone's hit with a Pokeball they're stunned for a bit.

Or it could just be the fact that someone just hit them in the face with a small round capsule designed to convert matter into a more compressed state to store for later ejection. I'd be stunned, too.

Greeneflower April 25th, 2009 10:35 PM

I have a question :3

How does Pikachu store energy in it's cheeks? And why to they call Pokemon "it" when Pokemon are also refereed to as a boy and a girl?

Thanks! :3

Wyyrlokk April 25th, 2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sabrina_diamond (Post 4581831)
Also, when Pokemon breed, how come the Eggs hatched Pokemon resemble the mother/female and yet can learn attacks from both their parents :D

Well, I think the attacks are part of the genetic material, and the child, or baby Pokemon, got the genes of both mother and father. So it could know an attack of his father just after be born (which explains also why it does not need to train this new attack).

Inkfingers April 26th, 2009 9:24 AM

Stones: The chemical balance of the stones fuses w/ the DNA of the pokemon, causing it to evolve. It evolves depending on what the pokemon and stone are made up of.
Breeding: It's not really a matter of them looking like the mother, it's more like them appearing ing more juvenile. It's kinda like TM's and HM's the pokemon just learns it due to its type.
Apricorns: pretty much. The apricorn, however, has an extremely shell, making it perfect for being thrown around and hitting the ground many times.
Ditto: It's made of a substance similar to Silly Putty. It is still unknown what substance that is though. It is solid enough to give it a face. It can transform because it does not have a solid structure, but is very sophisticated, giving it the ability to transform into an exact copy. How does it change color? Smae way a chameleon does. How does it change shape, same way clay is formed, only it does it by itself. How does it know the moves of the opposite pokemon? Ditto is a telepath and since it is so sophisticated it learns the move in 1 second.
How are pokeballs more effective, that is a secret kept by Poke'ball, company who makes them. They have stronger features though, which makes them stronger for catching pokemon. Kinda like a cell phone. The more features, the more expensive.

The masterball takes 10 years to make one because it is so complex to make one, hence, one masterball in existence

Humans aren't able to be caught b/c the pokeball; only reads pokemon DNA to be captured. Pokemon evolve like humans did, only they evolve from expeirience and do it much quicker.

Yes, it's a sacrifice a mother makes to have a child. Once the Cubone is of age 4 and is able to fend for itself, it kills its own mother because their heads are the most sensitive part of their body and they need protection and must learn to hunt at this age.

Shelder: Mooglizer said it all.

Gastly and all gohst pokemon are gas. They are a very thick, nontoxic gas that has false eyes and mouth also made of gas and pretends to use them, giving them an even gohstlier appearence.

Just as they foiund out other legendary pokemon, through legendary tales. Since the legendary pokemon have been seen, arceus is believed to ber real. They found out how Arceus created pokemon by a pokemon to human language translater. Just as Meowth did to ash in Pokemon 2000 when Pikachu and Zapdos were communicating. Arceus is a god to pokemon because he/she made them. I will not get into how Arceus was made due to religious reasons

Breeding: The same reason humans let other animals breed. It's part of nature.

Shelder's toxins are helpful toxins, juast as there are helpful bacteria.

Pikachu stores energy in its cheeks the same way certain animals store poison. Only pikachu gets it's energy kind of like humans. We have electricity in us, only pikachu has more and is able to handle more w/out killing itself. The energyis stored in it's cheeks, just because the cheeks were chosen to store the energy.
If a pokemon is refferred to as it, that means it's speaking generally, just as we do with animals.Example: The gorilla is very sophisticated. IT also has strong arms. Or if you are facing a pokemon, and don't know if it is a boy or girl, then one would call said pokemon "it."

Sumner, if you want to join, try and answer this question. If you have a good, logical, and interesting response, then you can join. If not then I'm sorry but you can't.


"When Wartortle evolves into Blastoise, How does it GROW tow high-pressure water cannons?"

Åzurε April 26th, 2009 11:46 AM

I really don't have a good answer for the Blastoise bit... Have you noticed most of the "biology" questions are coming from the first generation pokemon? It's most likely because the Game Freak was experimenting with less logical designs to see which worked best. They probably weren't sure of the direction pokemon, as species, were going to take. Little note.

Inkfingers April 26th, 2009 12:39 PM

Okay the blastoie question is for SUMNER ONLY

And ya I did notice that. Truthfuly I'm better w/ 1st and 2nd gen than the other 2 b/c I rarely play silver and haven't played d/pe/pl
But I can still answer questionns about Hoenn & Sinnoh

Monochrome April 26th, 2009 6:44 PM

Well... First I want to explain the phisiology of the actual jets... Supposedly they reach deep inside the shell launching water outwards at a speed of 160 Mph making it powerful enough to punch through even steel. They jut out from open areas near the Pokemons right and left shoulders.

My assumption is that when Wartortle evolves perhaps it naturally grows two hollow cannons made of bone in order to prevent itself from becomming overloaded with water that its shell picks up over a long period of time. Supposedly the water launched is the water colected in the shell through swimming and being in bodies of water. I think originally the cannons were grown as a device to drain a shell in order to prevent water form becoming stagnant or weighing the blastoise down but over the ages it evolved into a weapon when its other uses were discovered and used more frequently.

The muscles inside a blastoises shell slowly develop into a compression like mechanism that builds pressure and releases the water through the cannons that were forced shut by another set of muscles. And over the period of evolution wartortle like many other Pokemon are forced into an adaptation completely altering their size and appearance and the growing of the cannons is just another adaptation made to accomadate Blastoises size!

Well I gave it the old clown college try thar and I gope its correct enough.

By the way, I get most of my information about Pokemon from the pokedex and then add in my own scientific perceptions... If my science sint good enough I can still provide as much information possible with the information i have amassed from a decade of Pokemon.

Åzurε April 26th, 2009 6:51 PM

I like it personally, though an anatomically correct -if we dare go there- Blastoise would likely have narrower cannons than portrayed in anime/manga/games. Also, perhaps in a pinch a water-gunning pokemon could condense water from in the air somehow... But this is a separate piece of speculation.

I'm sorry for intruding on the question earlier, Inky.

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 27th, 2009 10:36 AM

Just to input re: the cubone question. One popular theory is that all female marowak die in childbirth, which not only provides the skull, but also explains why all Cubone are constantly sad.

Wyyrlokk April 27th, 2009 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by I Laugh at your Misfortune! (Post 4587348)
Just to input re: the cubone question. One popular theory is that all female marowak die in childbirth, which not only provides the skull, but also explains why all Cubone are constantly sad.

Well, but how should Cubone and Marowak truly raise their population if with every new-born one grown-up has to die?

Inkfingers April 27th, 2009 12:24 PM

Sumner, welcome to the team. Mooglizer, don't worry about it it's ok and plz don't call me Inky. Ink is fine if you wanna shorten my name. And I like the cubone theory better than mine, makes more sense.. Wyrrlok, You forgot about the male marowak, who are left to care for the baby cubone. They find a female, and breed, then they have the baby, the mother dies during birth. Males do hope for a female, since there aren't many left. The population only raises if a mother does not have birth, or if a baby boy cubone is born.

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 27th, 2009 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wyyrlokk (Post 4587367)
Well, but how should Cubone and Marowak truly raise their population if with every new-born one grown-up has to die?

Er...um...er...they...keep a constant population? It never goes up or down :P

Gymnotide April 27th, 2009 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkfingers (Post 4584481)
Stones: The chemical balance of the stones fuses w/ the DNA of the pokemon, causing it to evolve. It evolves depending on what the pokemon and stone are made up of.

Actually, the game references the radiation given off by the stones, not the stone itself, that modifies the DNA, Inky.

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Ditto: It's made of a substance similar to Silly Putty. It is still unknown what substance that is though. It is solid enough to give it a face. It can transform because it does not have a solid structure, but is very sophisticated, giving it the ability to transform into an exact copy. How does it change color? Smae way a chameleon does. How does it change shape, same way clay is formed, only it does it by itself. How does it know the moves of the opposite pokemon? Ditto is a telepath and since it is so sophisticated it learns the move in 1 second.
Doesn't explain how the jelly can change its shape by itself, Inky.
Having telepathy does not magically allow someone to automatically learn how to discharge electricity or fire from one's body, Inky.

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The masterball takes 10 years to make one because it is so complex to make one, hence, one masterball in existence
Caveat, Inky. You can get another Masterball from the lottery game, Inky. Also, what stops them from mass-producing them in a factory, Inky?

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Humans aren't able to be caught b/c the pokeball; only reads pokemon DNA to be captured. Pokemon evolve like humans did, only they evolve from expeirience and do it much quicker.
DNA is DNA, Inky. Doesn't make sense that Poke Balls can differentiate, Inky. It also doesn't explain why people haven't made Poke Balls to capture humans yet, Inky.

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Yes, it's a sacrifice a mother makes to have a child. Once the Cubone is of age 4 and is able to fend for itself, it kills its own mother because their heads are the most sensitive part of their body and they need protection and must learn to hunt at this age.
My Marowak is still alive, Inky.
Also, you can breed Cubones too, Inky.

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Gastly and all gohst pokemon are gas. They are a very thick, nontoxic gas that has false eyes and mouth also made of gas and pretends to use them, giving them an even gohstlier appearence.
What controls them, Inky?
How come they can take physical hits and also pass through attacks too, Inky?

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Shelder's toxins are helpful toxins, juast as there are helpful bacteria.
A technicality: no such thing as a good toxin by definition, Inky.

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Originally Posted by Sumner (Post 4586023)
Well... First I want to explain the phisiology of the actual jets... Supposedly they reach deep inside the shell launching water outwards at a speed of 160 Mph making it powerful enough to punch through even steel. They jut out from open areas near the Pokemons right and left shoulders.

My assumption is that when Wartortle evolves perhaps it naturally grows two hollow cannons made of bone in order to prevent itself from becomming overloaded with water that its shell picks up over a long period of time. Supposedly the water launched is the water colected in the shell through swimming and being in bodies of water. I think originally the cannons were grown as a device to drain a shell in order to prevent water form becoming stagnant or weighing the blastoise down but over the ages it evolved into a weapon when its other uses were discovered and used more frequently.

The muscles inside a blastoises shell slowly develop into a compression like mechanism that builds pressure and releases the water through the cannons that were forced shut by another set of muscles. And over the period of evolution wartortle like many other Pokemon are forced into an adaptation completely altering their size and appearance and the growing of the cannons is just another adaptation made to accomadate Blastoises size!

Well I gave it the old clown college try thar and I gope its correct enough.

By the way, I get most of my information about Pokemon from the pokedex and then add in my own scientific perceptions... If my science sint good enough I can still provide as much information possible with the information i have amassed from a decade of Pokemon.

Doesn't explain some small minute details:
  • Muscles can only contract or relax, therefore the water would be unable to be fired in a constant flow unless there were two or more muscles. Even so, they would need to squeeze really hard to get that speed, potentially obliterating all of Blastoise's insides and the cannons.
  • Blastoise can maintain water attacks for a very long time, even firing many times its volume in water. It can't replenish its water constantly.
  • Where does Blastoise get all the energy to attack so hard, then?

Inkfingers April 27th, 2009 1:06 PM

You know what Gymnotide, it's fine if your going to correct me for some things, but EVERY SINGLE THING I SAY! You've gotta be kidding me, man! I don't want to be mean or anything, so I'm going to please ask you to leave this disscusion. BTW This is pokemon, they're not real, so they could do some of the things you say are wrong, you don't know for sure what these things are capable of, because they don't exist.

Gymnotide April 27th, 2009 1:40 PM

I didn't correct everything you said. Only some of it.

I Laugh at your Misfortune! April 27th, 2009 1:47 PM

I think we've discovered that there is only one way to really explain all of this.

A wizard did it.

Åzurε April 27th, 2009 2:17 PM

^ lol, that's the answer to end all questions, right there.

and Gymno, please don't be a jackarse. << inky, inky, inky. really? come on.

But then, I had no idea that would offend you, Ink.

Monochrome April 27th, 2009 6:20 PM

Well I'm glad to be a part of the team of course but I still need to answer Mooglizer.

-According to most sources they shoot only short bursts of water out at a time while others they seem to have an endless supply of water. I prefer to think about the quick burst theory as more truthful because the other one Blastoise would need to have an endless supply of water which is just physically impossible. My next theory would be he absorbs moisture from the air but that wouldn't work because it would dry his skin out so much that he would become hurt.

-As for the energy that's a good question, let me respond with another, how does Happiny have so much strength, like enough to lift things at amazing rates as it does in the Anime or why does it have the Crush ability in Pokemon Ranger.

Ricky429 April 27th, 2009 7:12 PM

I have a question about Squirtle.

How can it eject so much water out of its tiny body? Where does it store it all?

Rubber Ducky April 27th, 2009 7:18 PM

How does Machamp throw 1,000 punches a second or whatever without exploding? (see Machamp thread)

Åzurε April 27th, 2009 7:38 PM

Huh... As for squirtle, I'm not sure, because Blastoise could very well absorb moisture and store it over time, instead of all at once. Squirtle couldn't do that, it's too small. That thread about Machamp is in fact all about Machamp. :O Inorite? Have you asked there first? I'll try to answer your questions, but if I fail, I probably won't post, mmkay?

Inkfingers April 27th, 2009 7:41 PM

Gymno, I know you didn't correct everything I said. I was exaggerating for emphasise. Anyway, I'm feeling more calm so I'll give you one more chance. You can correct some answers, but please say it too sound more sincere, rather than just bluntly correcting those people. Like Mooglizer, and ILM did. Okay.
BTW Good one ILM
Mooglizer, It doesn't exactly offend me, but I just don't really like the way it sounds. It's kinda like if some one called u a name that u just didn't really feel all that comfortable w/ like Mooginator or something else that just doesn't really sound good to you. So it's not that it offends me, but I'd rather u call me Ink or Inkfingers.
For Happiny: All that "fat" you see, is actually pure muscle, giving it enhanced strength. It does have fat though, It has little, but it has it.

Squirtle has a strange system in its body called the hydronomic system. It's a mix of the the root hydro and the word ergonomic. This is named because what squirtle does, is whenever it drinks water, half of it is actually dranken(or whatever the word is) and the other half goes through the hydronomic system and the water is run through the hydronomic system , where it is cleansed by acids, and moves throughout an organ similar to an intestine and is now more fluid. The water is stored in the back of its shell( there is basically a compartment for the water, still giving it room to use withdraw) giving squirtle a very heavy load to carry

The same way a humming bird flaps its wings 70 times per second, only machamp is swifter and stronger, and has for limbs, instead of two, and throws one punch with every arm seperately.

Ninja Caterpie April 27th, 2009 8:27 PM

Lol, we don't have to be nice when you're a self-proclaimed Pokémon guru that should be able to deal with everything we throw at you.

Have you read the Machamp thread? If it did so, it would blow its arms up.

Inkfingers April 28th, 2009 3:37 PM

It's not that I can't take it, it's just that gymno was kind of nitpicking to like a maximum. It says machamp's texture is rugged. That means there is a layer of skin there and he's rugged on the inside, so the skin is thin enough to have a rugged texture, but still be able to cushion the blow.

AJ™ April 28th, 2009 4:28 PM

Q. Why does playing a "magical" azure-colored flute in the tune of the Pokémon Theme make a random flight of light-stairs at the top of a freezing cold mountain, somehow connected to the space/time continuum, appear?

xD. I just had to make that super detailed.

Åzurε April 28th, 2009 5:47 PM

Firstly, the Flute is not azure-colored. It is most likely a reference to the sky (occasionally referred to as Azure) and though it says the stairs glow, I don't believe they do. This however has nothing to do with the explanation, and I'm not sure why I even commented on it. XP

The flute could simply have been given to humankind, or crafted by people with help from Arceus. It stands to reason that the Spear Pillar could have been inhabited at some point. Anyone else up for answering this as well?

And, Ink, I get what your saying, it is annoying.

AJ™ April 28th, 2009 6:13 PM

Your answer displeases me!
I want a more logical answer! I WANT THE GURU'S ANSWER!

Monochrome April 28th, 2009 6:24 PM

Well honestly i dont think the explanation get much better than that, I think something u need to know is that Pokemon legend is not fact in the real world and we real peoples can only speculate, hell i doubt anyone in the Pokemon universe even knows... Thats why it's called legend... I'm not sure what scientibfic explaination could be involved describing the mechanics of a magical flute......

Åzurε April 28th, 2009 6:30 PM

Uh, the frequency of the sound it makes signals Arceus to let one person up the stairs. That's about it.

*Runs to get Inkfingers*
Iiiinnk! XD

Wyyrlokk April 28th, 2009 9:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooglizer (Post 4592150)
Uh, the frequency of the sound it makes signals Arceus to let one person up the stairs. That's about it.

*Runs to get Inkfingers*
Iiiinnk! XD


I guess so, too. There are some alarm whistles, producing a sound which only a dog can hear, so if you blow into that whistle, usually your dog (if you have one) will come to you if he hears that (and if he´s trained to come to you, of course... xp). Probably it´s the same with Arceus.

Inkfingers April 29th, 2009 2:58 PM

Okay I like some of these guesses. Props, o'_'o, this is probably the hardest question I've ever been asked before on the subject of pokemon. Here we go though, the answer to end all guesses...

Ninja Caterpie April 30th, 2009 2:29 AM

Righty-ho, we're waiting. To totally rip it to shreds

Where is it?

Inkfingers April 30th, 2009 7:19 PM

Sorry this took so long to post. School stuff and it wouldn't let me post when I finished typing. anyway, here it is
The song played is a code, just as in some movies, the protagonist needs to solve the code of some sort of puzzle to continue. When every note of the song is played correctly, Arceus hears it, with the feeling that a hero is coming, worthy of capturing it and sends down the stairs. The effect that the song causes seems to have a magical effect, so people just call it magical. The stairs descend from Arceus's home(the top of spear pillar) by telekinesis, for Arceus has this power, just as Abra does. Arceus's home is made of pure light. Arceus is actually levitating in mid air by using telekinesis on itself, but is giving the impression of standing on the light. When the trainer finally enters, he/she is also being lifted by telekinesis. Since Arceus is the strongest pokemon, it has the ability to to fight against an enemy and keep everything ;evitated, even when being hit and attacking. However, if Arceus were to faint, its telekinesis stops, since it is unconsious, and the trainer falls to their death. Arceus only drops the stairs down when it knows that there is a trainer capable of own it, otherwise, the stairs will not descend.


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