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Light Lucario April 26th, 2009 5:06 PM

I don't really hate Dawn and I haven't heard that much hatred for her character around other forums. I just kind of find her more annoying as a trainer. While she does participate in Contests, I feel like she hasn't really been using her team that much other than Piplup. I did like her at the start of D/P, but I became more annoyed with her as she used mostly Piplup and barely used her other Pokemon.

I still forget that she caught a Swinbu since it has not done a thing since she caught it. I only watch the dub, but I hear of things that have happen to her team recently.

I feel that she hasn't really developed as a character. Granted, it is Pokemon, but by the time May had five Pokemon, she had become a trainer who didn't really like Pokemon to a trainer finding her calling with Contests. While I'm not expecting the exact same results from Dawn, considering that there are quite a few differences between how she started and how May started out, I feel like she's still the same kind of character we saw from start of the saga. She isn't as inexperience as she was then, but I don't think that she's really grown that much either.

If Dawn started using more of her other Pokemon or taught them some new moves, then I probably wouldn't be as annoyed with her. She's okay and she obviously cares about her Pokemon, but I do get annoyed with her about her skills as a trainer at times.

Greeneflower April 26th, 2009 7:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Psyburn (Post 4573685)
I wouldn't mind pikachu being impaled actually :P

But COTD?

HOW COULD YOU DISS THE CUTEST MOUSE IN THE WORLD!?

Anyway, I like Dawn, and I don't care of her power.. WHAT IS SHE A POKEMON!?

Game Over1375 April 26th, 2009 7:42 PM

Woah, talk about getting out of hand.

*looks at Psyburn*

Dude, you just started a war.

Anyways, I like Misty, May, and Dawn. While I was a bit mad about Misty being replaced by May, she eventually grew on me. I wasn't mad about May being replaced by Dawn though. I figure this will be what the series as an anime will do, replacing the main female character with a girl from the next generation of Pokemon games.

I do admit that Dawn's skirt is a bit too short for a kid's show, but who cares? It is an anime people!

Sweet Smoochum April 26th, 2009 8:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Game Over1375 (Post 4586181)
While I was a bit mad about Misty being replaced by May, she eventually grew on me. I wasn't mad about May being replaced by Dawn though. I figure this will be what the series as an anime will do, replacing the main female character with a girl from the next generation of Pokemon games.

I felt the same way, dude.

I don't know why people hate Dawn. Maybe there are those, who are hardcore Misty/May fans, don't like Dawn. I have no problem with Dawn. I like how she's a little more relaxed than the previous two and that she's not flirty with Ash. Sure, she can be a little obsessed with her hair, but what other girly girl isn't? I like how they are giving Dawn shipping options such as Kenny, that Pearl dude, and Gary. For once, a girl who is traveling with Ash likes Gary! :) (I say this because she likes Gary's poetry + b/c their outfits match! How cute!) (Dawn/Gary shipper here.)

Besides, what's wrong with a prepubescent ten year old wearing a skirt? It's not like she is in high school dressed like that. And she is wearing boots with it thus covering up her legs more than the first two. Honestly, how can people find a show starring 10-11 year olds and pokemon "sexual?" I personally think it's wrong to think that way about this show.

Amaruuk April 26th, 2009 8:32 PM

From what I've seen of the DP episodes, I can say that Dawn's actually a decent character. I can't compare her to May, since I haven't watched the seasons with her in it, but I'd say Dawn's more likable than Misty was. She's the one I found annoying. Sure Dawn's hair obsession and tantrums are annoying, but they fit her character. Dawn also seems like someone who'd be easier to get along with than Misty, as well as someone who's more open-minded.

Game Over1375 April 26th, 2009 8:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GymLeaderLily (Post 4586266)
I felt the same way, dude.

I don't know why people hate Dawn. Maybe there are those, who are hardcore Misty/May fans, don't like Dawn. I have no problem with Dawn. I like how she's a little more relaxed than the previous two and that she's not flirty with Ash. Sure, she can be a little obsessed with her hair, but what other girly girl isn't? I like how they are giving Dawn shipping options such as Kenny, that Pearl dude, and Gary. For once, a girl who is traveling with Ash likes Gary! :) (I say this because she likes Gary's poetry + b/c their outfits match! How cute!) (Dawn/Gary shipper here.)

Besides, what's wrong with a prepubescent ten year old wearing a skirt? It's not like she is in high school dressed like that. And she is wearing boots with it thus covering up her legs more than the first two. Honestly, how can people find a show starring 10-11 year olds and pokemon "sexual?" I personally think it's wrong to think that way about this show.

I agree with you as well. I just wish a few more people think about this like we and few others have...

Psyburn April 27th, 2009 5:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Game Over1375 (Post 4586181)
Woah, talk about getting out of hand.

*looks at Psyburn*

Dude, you just started a war.

Its a curse im afraid :P

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Besides, what's wrong with a prepubescent ten year old wearing a skirt? It's not like she is in high school dressed like that. And she is wearing boots with it thus covering up her legs more than the first two. Honestly, how can people find a show starring 10-11 year olds and pokemon "sexual?" I personally think it's wrong to think that way about this show.
Exactly. Design choices for a character should not be the equivalent of the overall quality of the character. If people are simply citing a skirt as to why a character is "bad", then you have no real complaints against the character........ rather than you being pissed that she replaced an earlier companion. And Also, complaining about sexuality in japanese cartoons is probably a waste of time, especially since there are actually other shows where girls as young as 6 get raped.

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Originally Posted by Greeneflower (Post 4586148)
HOW COULD YOU DISS THE CUTEST MOUSE IN THE WORLD!?

When the little rodent is shoved down my throat 24/7, it deserves my wrath.

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Dawn's non-dubbed name...
Why...why do people insist on using non dubbed names?

Roxasabridged April 27th, 2009 8:35 AM

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Why...why do people insist on using non dubbed names?
Probably because it's seen as their real/better name.

Jorah April 27th, 2009 9:43 AM

I don't hate Dawn, I like her, although she isn't really one of my favourite characters. I like how she's girly and cares how her hair looks because it's quite funny when you contrast it with Ash who doesn't care at all and doesn't see why he should because he wears a hat XD Although, in a future episode when his hair goes poofy, he cares just as much as Dawn XD

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Originally Posted by Psyburn (Post 4586852)
Why...why do people insist on using non dubbed names?

Because they watch the Japanese version :P

Unown_ April 27th, 2009 10:27 AM

Same here. I don't hate her. I liked her overreacting personality at the start of the series, but lately that has disappeared into thin air. She's an OK character in my book.

Haza April 27th, 2009 10:35 AM

Maybe its because her voice is a bit annoying and her Pokemon are boring. I dont hate her though, I just find her boring.

Inferno1 April 27th, 2009 11:18 PM

It is the same reason May was hated people did not want to see the previous female traveler leave. It is a never ending cycle the girl who replaces dawn will be just as hated

JP April 28th, 2009 12:11 PM

I myself have nothing against her. I can't say I have a hatred of any main character though, and when it comes to comparing Misty, May and Dawn, I think they're all equally entertaining and interesting; as well as they do what they were meant to be doing in the series.

Kitty! April 28th, 2009 2:05 PM

I have this weird thing with Hikari.
I remember when she was first introduced, and I started watching the Japanese D/P episodes right when they came out ..I fell in love with this girl. She was so cute and funny. I think once the dub came out ..I got sick of her ..(it might have been because of her voice) ..or maybe because her personality kept changing.

ATM, she seems kinda boring. I miss how she was back in the beginning. I mean she's weird. Haha, sometimes I like her ..sometimes I hate her.

At one point, I was going on this total spasm with her. I liked her for a few weeks ..but then hated her ...but then liked her again ...and then hate, and now I'm kinda just yeeeah. xD

Hiidora April 29th, 2009 10:17 PM

People love Dawn, Who would hate her?

Dawn Is like a girl ash in a micro mini skirt and there for everybody loves her. In my opinion she is fun and entertaining, A heck of a lot better then May. Which brings me to the question "Why does everybody hate may?" I hate her, and I don't know why. I just do.

Roxasabridged April 30th, 2009 7:47 AM

I just saw an episode of D/P this morning, and I remembered why I don't like her: Her voice kills my ears...

Charaxes April 30th, 2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hiidora (Post 4594993)
People love Dawn, Who would hate her?

Dawn Is like a girl ash in a micro mini skirt and there for everybody loves her. In my opinion she is fun and entertaining, A heck of a lot better then May. Which brings me to the question "Why does everybody hate may?" I hate her, and I don't know why. I just do.

I wish more people would answer their own question like you have. No, I'm not being sardonic.

Here's a fun question: where was it that she started to turn in your eyes? Her first Contest, her first actual capture, what motivated you to say, "screw this, I'm not liking her anymore"?

weedle_mchairybug May 1st, 2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Charaxes (Post 4597840)
I wish more people would answer their own question like you have. No, I'm not being sardonic.

Here's a fun question: where was it that she started to turn in your eyes? Her first Contest, her first actual capture, what motivated you to say, "screw this, I'm not liking her anymore"?

If Buneary was her first actual capture, then definitely by that point (The way she acted in the beginning of that episode, as well as that little fit she made at Brock near the middle, made me hate her.).

Psyburn May 4th, 2009 5:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hiidora (Post 4594993)
People love Dawn, Who would hate her?

Dawn Is like a girl ash in a micro mini skirt and there for everybody loves her. In my opinion she is fun and entertaining, A heck of a lot better then May. Which brings me to the question "Why does everybody hate may?" I hate her, and I don't know why. I just do.

You could read through the topic and see for yourself >_>

peteron85 July 13th, 2009 8:27 PM

I dislike dawn because shes just plain boring. She has no clue whats shes doing, and all she likes is pokemon contests, which are even more dull than her. Plus the voices of her Piplup and Buneary annoy the hell out of me.

Wings Don't Cry July 13th, 2009 8:43 PM

I think Dawn was a cool character, I don't really like her voice in the English dub though, but she's alright and I don't want people to compare her to May because May was just a NO, same goes with her brother.

Unown_ July 13th, 2009 10:01 PM

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