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Dylan T. April 29th, 2009 4:04 PM

Is my Shaymin legit?
 
I received a Lv. 30 Shaymin (holding an Amulet Coin) on GTS for a Lv. 1 Arcanine today, and someone told me that it might not be legit. Apparently the OT was from Japan, so the Pokémon's name is シェイミ.

Trainer Memo:
Bold nature.
Apr. 18, 2009
Flower Paradise
Apparently had a
fateful encounter at
Lv. 30.
Good endurance.
Likes sour food.

It knows Magical Leaf, Air Cutter, Quick Attack, and Growth. Please help me! This is concerning me because my friend told me that hacked Pokémon could ruin my game.

By the way, if you were wondering, I was able to obtain the Gracidea from the lady in Floaroma Town.

Forci Stikane April 29th, 2009 4:12 PM

Level 30 Shaymin can only be obtained through the Member's Pass event item on a Diamond or Pearl game cartridge, except that the item has only been released to Platinum. So yes, that Shaymin is probably hacked in one form or another.

However, your friend was incorrect in saying that it would ruin your game.

Dylan T. April 29th, 2009 4:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forci Stikane (Post 4594175)
Level 30 Shaymin can only be obtained through the Member's Pass event item on a Diamond or Pearl game cartridge, except that the item has only been released to Platinum. So yes, that Shaymin is probably hacked in one form or another.

However, your friend was incorrect in saying that it would ruin your game.

The Member's Pass is used to obtain Darkrai. Oak's Letter is used to obtain Shaymin. Also, are you sure my friend is incorrect?

UltraBlaziken April 29th, 2009 4:23 PM

I double-checked your post, and I don't see why this Shaymin wouldn't be legit (they have already done the Oak's Letter Wi-Fi event in Japan) but it may not (could be cloned or created with PokéSav.)

And don't worry, hacked Pokémon have a very low chance of destroying your game (a friend of mine has some wickedly hacked Pokémon, for example a Metagross with Shadow Force or a Pupitar with Fly, among others, and nothing has happened to his game so far.) This friend even gave a "full team" of hacked Pokémon (he used the Pokémon Modifier AR Hack) and nothing has happened to my Platinum (I'm even training some of them.)

EDIT: Wait a second! If only the movie (event) Shaymin can get you the Gracidea Flower, then how come it was found at the Flower Paradise (an in-game place) if it was got from a real life event? That doesn't make any sense at all!!!

Forci Stikane April 29th, 2009 4:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan T. (Post 4594208)
The Member's Pass is used to obtain Darkrai. Oak's Letter is used to obtain Shaymin. Also, are you sure my friend is incorrect?

My mistake. I actually get the two confused quite a bit.

Yes, the actual hacked Pokemon itself does not normally have the coding necessary to do so, especially if all that was hacked for was the Oak's Letter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltraBlaziken (Post 4594211)
I double-checked your post, and I don't see why this Shaymin wouldn't be legit (they have already done the Oak's Letter Wi-Fi event in Japan)

Only for Platinum, where Shaymin is found at level 50.

Tinhead Bruce April 29th, 2009 4:30 PM

The Shaymin could have been obtained through the E4 Glitch or through Tweaking.
Yeah, this seems like the most logical explanation. These are considered hacked in the Trade Corner, just so you know.

UltraBlaziken April 29th, 2009 4:37 PM

I think I found the answer. Read the edit on my first post. This Shaymin must be hacked somehow!

Shauna April 29th, 2009 4:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltraBlaziken (Post 4594211)
I double-checked your post, and I don't see why this Shaymin wouldn't be legit (they have already done the Oak's Letter Wi-Fi event in Japan) but it may not (could be cloned or created with PokéSav.)

And don't worry, hacked Pokémon have a very low chance of destroying your game (a friend of mine has some wickedly hacked Pokémon, for example a Metagross with Shadow Force or a Pupitar with Fly, among others, and nothing has happened to his game so far.) This friend even gave a full "team" of hacked Pokémon (he used the Pokémon Modifier AR Hack) and nothing has happened to my Platinum (I'm even training some of them.)

Edit: Wait a second! If only the movie (event) Shaymin can get you the Gracidea Flower, then how come it was found at the Flower Paradise (an in-game place) if it was got from a real life event? That doesn't make any sense at all!!!

Any Shaymin can get you the Gracidea flower.

UltraBlaziken April 29th, 2009 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shauna (Post 4594286)
Any Shaymin can get you the Garcedia flower.

That isn't true. From what I know, any Shaymin can use it, but ONLY the event/movie Shaymin can make you get it.

As a proof, I can tell you that I just tried it with my Shaymin (got with the Pokémon Modifier hack) and it didn't work. She didn't give me anything. I will also try to get you a link for more proof.

Forci Stikane April 29th, 2009 4:46 PM

...How did I manage to miss this...?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan T. (Post 4594149)
Trainer Memo:
Bold nature.
Apr. 18, 2009
Flower Paradise
Apparently had a
fateful encounter at
Lv. 30.
Good endurance.
Likes sour food.

Yes, the Shaymin is hacked. Any Shaymin caught at the Flower Paradise should say "Apparently met" when obtained in a trade.

This also explains how it unlocked the Gracidea, as only the "fateful encounter" Shaymin should be able to do so, not those caught in the Flower Paradise.

Shauna April 29th, 2009 5:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltraBlaziken (Post 4594305)
That isn't true. From what I know, any Shaymin can use it, but ONLY the event/movie Shaymin can make you get it.

As a proof, I can tell you that I just tried it with my Shaymin (got with the Pokémon Modifier hack) and it didn't work. She didn't give me anything. I will also try to get you a link for more proof.

Sorry, let me rephrase, lol

Any legit event shaymin will unlock the gracidea. wondercard shaymin is an event.


Nevermind, Forci has it right

~RNC~ April 29th, 2009 5:18 PM

Well I have the japanese version of the game and I don't think that's a hack at all, here is the info on the one I caught myself:
Shaymin's name is in japanese
lv30 quiet nature
flower paradise
apparently had a faithful encounter at lv30
Impetuous and silly
Likes dry food

And this shaymin was traded from my platinum game to my pearl game and still says that, not apperently met!!

~RNC~ April 29th, 2009 5:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forci Stikane (Post 4594408)
I have verified the above quote personally. So, would you care to revise your statement?

Well if you have a wi-fi connection I'll meet you on there and prove it, as you can see I have no platinum fc in my sig.
As a matter of fact I have 2 of them, I restarted my game to get another.

No I won't revise it, I got 2 of them personal myself, so I know what level they are.
It's lv 30 not 50!!

~RNC~ April 29th, 2009 5:37 PM

I thought I took that fc out because of the confusion while trading.
And I'll be more than happy to let you check them, I caught both of these myself, so I know, I have had the japanese game since it came out.

Forci Stikane April 29th, 2009 5:57 PM

...Never mind, it seems as though I am even more out of my mind than I had originally thought.

According to Serebii.net, the Shaymin in Platinum will appear at Level 30 and will unlock the Gracidea Flower.

Tinhead Bruce April 29th, 2009 6:05 PM

Oh snapolis! My answer must be right den! Woo!

~RNC~ April 29th, 2009 6:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forci Stikane (Post 4594509)
...Never mind, it seems as though I am even more out of my mind than I had originally thought.

According to Serebii.net, the Shaymin in Platinum will appear at Level 30 and will unlock the Gracidea Flower.

Thank you for that, I was right to say that the shaymin he has seems to be legit.

Dylan T. April 29th, 2009 6:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltraBlaziken (Post 4594305)
That isn't true. From what I know, any Shaymin can use it, but ONLY the event/movie Shaymin can make you get it.

As a proof, I can tell you that I just tried it with my Shaymin (got with the Pokémon Modifier hack) and it didn't work. She didn't give me anything. I will also try to get you a link for more proof.

From what I've heard, if your Shaymin is hacked, you can't receive the Gracidea (I didn't mention this in the first post because I wasn't sure if it was true or not). By the way, did you already have the Gracidea when you tried this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~RNC~ (Post 4594546)
Thank you for that, I was right to say that the shaymin he has seems to be legit.

Thank you for your help!

~RNC~ April 29th, 2009 6:48 PM

If you'd like I can check it and compare it to mine??

BlueShadow April 29th, 2009 6:48 PM

I think that it is legit because in bulbapedia, I read that the Oak's letter is already release in Japan. There are ONLY 2 types of shaymin that can get the Gracidea, one is the event shaymin, but there is another shaymin that get the Gracidea. If you use the oak's letter (in Platinum) you can catch the legit shaymin, and that shaymin can be used to get the gracidea. That means that only the shaymin from Platinum's flower paradise can activate the Gracidea. If you transfer a shaymin from D/P flower paradise you can't get the gracidea

~RNC~ April 29th, 2009 6:52 PM

You can get the flower with any shaymin, but it can only be used on the event shaymin, from what I understand from serebii.

Dylan T. April 29th, 2009 7:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~RNC~ (Post 4594623)
If you'd like I can check it and compare it to mine??

What do you need to compare?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueShadow (Post 4594624)
I think that it is legit because in bulbapedia, I read that the Oak's letter is already release in Japan. There are ONLY 2 types of shaymin that can get the Gracidea, one is the event shaymin, but there is another shaymin that get the Gracidea. If you use the oak's letter (in Platinum) you can catch the legit shaymin, and that shaymin can be used to get the gracidea. That means that only the shaymin from Platinum's flower paradise can activate the Gracidea. If you transfer a shaymin from D/P flower paradise you can't get the gracidea

Go to this site. Click the button that reads "Pokémon" then click the button that says "Shaymin". On page 4 of 4 is a guide on how to get the Gracidea.

EDIT:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Forci Stikane (Post 4594306)
...How did I manage to miss this...?



Yes, the Shaymin is hacked. Any Shaymin caught at the Flower Paradise should say "Apparently met" when obtained in a trade.

This also explains how it unlocked the Gracidea, as only the "fateful encounter" Shaymin should be able to do so, not those caught in the Flower Paradise.

I don't think that means anything. The Lv. 100 Regigigas that I got from Toys R' Us says the same thing in its Trainer Memo, but it's obviously legit.

LethalTexture April 29th, 2009 11:10 PM

It seems you have your answer, so I'll close this. But simple questions like this should be asked in the Q&A sticky in future.

*locks*


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