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JohnJSal May 8th, 2009 5:26 PM

Will HG/SS replace Platinum?
 
In my mind, at least, Platinum seems like the "ultimate" version of Pokemon right now, sort of like Crystal was at the time, and Emerald later. It seems like the one you'd want to use to complete your Pokedex and just generally use as your "main" game.

But I'm wondering if anyone thinks HG/SS will replace Platinum in this regard, given that they will be newer and possibly have features that Platinum doesn't. Anyone have any reason to think this might happen?

Thanks.

dotKarma May 8th, 2009 5:30 PM

They already have, for me at least. The whole D/P/Pt games were kind of a turn-off for me. They were never that interesting. Now Gold and Silver and their remakes are another story as I grew up on Gold, but that's just my opinion.


EDIT: Plus it won't have a billion random, pointless Pokemon like D/P/Pt did.

lolwut May 8th, 2009 5:31 PM

well don't forget, platinum will probably be outplayed like diamond and pearl by the time it comes out so probably yes. It's probably coming out late 2010 or later, because its only coming out late 2009 in japan and usually it takes a year at least from the time the game comes out in japan for it to come out in english

CollinP May 8th, 2009 5:43 PM

Probably.... i mean, gold and silver were the most bought games in america when i was a kid... so...... the remakes should be 10 times better! i mean, fire red was ALOT better than the original red version in my tastes (probably because i was 2 when it came out)

True Reign May 8th, 2009 5:46 PM

Pretty much half of the Pokemon fans in the world started with either the cards or the second generation games.

I'm going to guess that HG/SS are going to become, as you said, the 'ultimate' Pokemon game for the next few years.

Zelda May 8th, 2009 5:46 PM

To tell you the truth, it's probably going to be the biggest hit ever. A lot of people wanted a GS remake and now, here it is.

Platinum is probably going to be the 2nd biggest hit.

Speed May 8th, 2009 5:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOfGold (Post 4625383)
They already have, for me at least. The whole D/P/Pt games were kind of a turn-off for me. They were never that interesting. Now Gold and Silver and their remakes are another story as I grew up on Gold, but that's just my opinion.


EDIT: Plus it won't have a billion random, pointless Pokemon like D/P/Pt did.

It's a remake, so it'll probably have all the pokemon that have been in D/P/Pt, like FR/LG with Johto and Hoenn.

I'm really hyped for this game though, hope it doesn't disappoint.

Gummy May 8th, 2009 5:47 PM

Being two of the most anticipated games in Pokemon history BEFORE they were even announced, I'm fairly sure they will steal the title as "Ultimate Pokemon Game" from Platinum.

Zelda May 8th, 2009 5:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twilight Sky (Post 4625471)
To be honest with you, even if I do happen to get these games, it just possibly can't replace Platinum. I mean, at first, everyone was so flipping eager for Platinum, and now since the G/S remakes are apparently going to be out, you're going to throw all that away?

C'mon now. :[

Well that may be true...but the only thing is a whole bunch of people loved Gold and Silver and have been waiting and waiting for a remake to confirm. Now that it is confirmed, there's no way they're going to treasure Platinum over the remakes. Maybe a few but still...

dotKarma May 8th, 2009 5:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed (Post 4625463)
It's a remake, so it'll probably have all the pokemon that have been in D/P/Pt, like FR/LG with Johto and Hoenn.

I'm really hyped for this game though, hope it doesn't disappoint.

Well, FireRed only had a few Pokemon from Hoenn, plus HG/SS will be able to trade with D/P/Pt, so what's the point of adding the (pointless) 150 more pokemon to the dex if you can get them by doing a quick trade?

Psyburn May 8th, 2009 5:54 PM

Well its too much hassle trying to get 2nd vermin in this game, especially since GTS is BS.

Here's hoping they bring back headbutt, THEN il throw plat away. :P

lolwut May 8th, 2009 5:59 PM

tbh i really think they shouldve made it like just after emerald for the gameboy advance, because i honestly think its going to be super confusing with the whole story not going from sinnoh to johto and then in johto theres going to be sinnoh pokemon? i think that might ruin the storyline... unless they make it how fire red was, so that its just johto/kanto pokes until the elite four then the national dex and so on and so forth

BeachBoy May 8th, 2009 6:01 PM

I'm not sure. I love the Battle Frontier in Platinum sooooo much, so I know I won't just kick it to the curb. But hey, gen II lovers might. XD

So I'll have to wait and see what Heart Gold has to offer.

Penumbra May 8th, 2009 6:03 PM

I anticipate it'll be a big seller, and a bigger hit than platinum.
Many people were spazzing about gen 3 and above because
they didn't look like pokemon. Now, we're going back to their
roots.
Personally, HG/SS Tops ANY (I mean ANY)
pokemon game, but that's just my opinion. I loved Platinum's
expanded story and all the neat little features here and there..

But let's face it. Gen 2 is just better. It just is.

Don't throw around the word "replace" so much.

We have a perfect example here:
Ruby, Sapphire, Fire Red, Leaf Green, Emerald.

When Emerald was released, people still used anything
before it. Call me insane, but I'll take a wild guess and say
people will still use Platinum, and it won't be "replaced"
by HG/SS. People may prefer it over platinum, but I'll
bet any amount of money that there'll be some kind of
turn-off in HG/SS, and people will recoil to Platinum for
that matter. Even if everything is neat, tidy, and perfect
for the remakes, Wi-Fi will still connect us to Platinum.

Platinum won't be replaced. There'll just be new slots
waiting for the good ole Gen 2 returners.

kevcrash May 8th, 2009 6:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowpokez (Post 4625393)
well don't forget, platinum will probably be outplayed like diamond and pearl by the time it comes out so probably yes. It's probably coming out late 2010 or later, because its only coming out late 2009 in japan and usually it takes a year at least from the time the game comes out in japan for it to come out in english


I don't hink so..
Fire Red and Leaf Green were released about the same time in Japan and U.S.
Definitely not LATE 2010. If even 2010 early 2010. I CANNOT WAIT for it!!!!! I can't wait for the features!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JP May 8th, 2009 6:08 PM

Usually I get that feeling of replacement as well, but with these remakes, I doubt they'll replace my Platinum. Reason be, Platinum's got all 493 pokemon, and I doubt HG/SS will have all of them... so in my mind, Platinum is still cream of the crop.

Mobile Tsk May 8th, 2009 6:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WILLBILL2 (Post 4625535)
I don't hink so..
Fire Red and Leaf Green were released about the same time in Japan and U.S.
Definitely not LATE 2010. If even 2010 early 2010. I CANNOT WAIT for it!!!!! I can't wait for the features!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, you're both wrong. If Japan gets it in, say, November, we should expect to receive it in (well July 2010) but if they decide for once not to be sackrocks, we may get it closer to the Japanese release.

EDIT: I forgot what this thread was about. Oh yeah. In short: yes. Platinum is a disappointing game and I predict HG and SS will be much better.

ashketchumandpikachufan May 8th, 2009 6:17 PM

I HATE PLATINUM NOW THESE ARE GOING TO BE THE BEST GAMES EVR I CANT WAIT TILL SCREENSHOTS WILL PROBABLY BE SHOWN TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY

spike6958 May 8th, 2009 6:22 PM

Well i think it will, i expect the HG/SS english release will be around the same time as Plat was this year, so by then you should have done everything that Plat has to offer, and HG/SS will be all shiny and new and exciting and i think that as long as it has Wi-Fi battles then yes the only use Plat will have is as a storage cart for all the Pokemon that no one wants to transfer over.

Forci Stikane May 8th, 2009 6:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Revolución (Post 4625466)
Being two of the most anticipated games in Pokemon history BEFORE they were even announced, I'm fairly sure they will steal the title as "Ultimate Pokemon Game" from Platinum.

Games do not always live up to the hype given to them, especially if said hype was in place long before the games were even confirmed. I would not be surprised if these games fall short of everyone's expectations in one form or another, leaving fans to return to Platinum.

On the other hand, there is one part of this that gives me hope: there is a certain factor in Pokemon games that has become predictable, and that is that the "combination" third game in each Generation will be the superior one. Yellow was an improvement on Red/Blue/Green, Crystal was an improvement on Gold/Silver, Emerald was an improvement on Ruby/Sapphire, and Platinum was an improvement on Diamond/Pearl. In the case of FireRed and LeafGreen, these remakes were released before the main Generation's third game--Emerald--came out, meaning that they did not need to improve on a game that had yet to be released. This time, however, the third game of the Generation has already been released, meaning that Nintendo now needs to improve upon it with the coming releases. If Nintendo realizes this, as they most certainly should, then we should be in for two excellent remakes.

WindBlows May 8th, 2009 6:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penumbra (Post 4625529)

Personally, HG/SS Tops ANY (I mean ANY)
Pokémon game, but that's just my opinion. I loved Platinum's
expanded story and all the neat little features here and there..

But let's face it. Gen 2 is just better. It just is.


Amen.

I totally agree with that...

Lionsroar May 8th, 2009 6:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 4625548)
Usually I get that feeling of replacement as well, but with these remakes, I doubt they'll replace my Platinum. Reason be, Platinum's got all 493 pokemon, and I doubt HG/SS will have all of them... so in my mind, Platinum is still cream of the crop.

wait you mean, the new g/s wont have all the pokemon so far? O_o

JohnJSal May 8th, 2009 6:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forci Stikane (Post 4625600)
On the other hand, there is one part of this that gives me hope: there is a certain factor in Pokemon games that has become predictable, and that is that the "combination" third game in each Generation will be the superior one. Yellow was an improvement on Red/Blue/Green, Crystal was an improvement on Gold/Silver, Emerald was an improvement on Ruby/Sapphire, and Platinum was an improvement on Diamond/Pearl. In the case of FireRed and LeafGreen, these remakes were released before the main Generation's third game--Emerald--came out, meaning that they did not need to improve on a game that had yet to be released. This time, however, the third game of the Generation has already been released, meaning that Nintendo now needs to improve upon it with the coming releases. If Nintendo realizes this, as they most certainly should, then we should be in for two excellent remakes.

Exactly what I had in mind when I asked the question. Since they are coming out *after* Pt, I wonder if they will have all of Pt's features and more, or be missing some of them, or some other combination of that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP (Post 4625548)
Usually I get that feeling of replacement as well, but with these remakes, I doubt they'll replace my Platinum. Reason be, Platinum's got all 493 pokemon, and I doubt HG/SS will have all of them... so in my mind, Platinum is still cream of the crop.

This was basically my main concern. I'm spending a lot of time completing my National Pokedex, and then to have another set of games come out so soon (I know it would happen eventually, but so soon?) is sort of disheartening. Almost makes it not worth trying to finish the 'dex. Yeah, I'll have it completed on Pt, but what good will that do after I've moved on to HG/SS?

Lt_Nite May 8th, 2009 7:08 PM

As said a lot of times already I'm so excited for these games, and cannot wait. Gen 2 was IMO the best generation, plot and pokemon wise. These games are gonna be huge I think. For me Platinum already got boring and old to me so I went back to play Sapphire, so to answer the OQ, yes it will replace it for me.

Cham May 8th, 2009 7:13 PM

I think I will probably play HG/SS more just because I love Gold so much, and my save battery died a long time ago. I really do enjoy Platinum, but Johto and all the memories along with G/S lead me to have a minor bias, just like FR/LG was more enjoyable than R/S/E for me.


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