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Ineffable~ June 17th, 2009 6:52 PM

My only problem with that comment is, even if they are a little thin, really what else could they be?

Haza June 17th, 2009 6:53 PM

The original GSC didnt sport these vents either.

Samme! June 17th, 2009 7:08 PM

I think that they are just lights or lamp posts (whatever you wanna call them) but they just happen to look similar to the vents from DPP

Artemis June 17th, 2009 7:17 PM

The point is, there hasn't been any other information on these poles or vents. It was only seen once in New Bark Town and hasn't been scouted anywhere else in Johto. Either it be there for show or because maybe there is an Underground brought in, we still do not know. If there is to be an Underground, then I wouldn't expect Coro Coro to release anything on it either by next month or the rest to come. Even though it wasn't there in the originals, it still doesn't provide much evidence of it confirming the Underground like what was brought in Sinnoh. There are a lot of things shown in the games that weren't provided before, but it never has to mean anything other than it being there. So, like I've said there is a possibility [I won't deny that], but we basically have to hold onto our seats, speculate, and wait until further information.

What we have now though is quite valuable. As I noted that the Notch Eared Pichu has a different sprite from the Pikachu Colored Pichu Sprite. This is definitely something new, and I actually like it. They have put in a lot of effort to bring in the anime/movie antics to the remake, such as Arceus and the two new Pichus, so there are a lot of unexpected things probably coming our way [Who knows?].

WindBlows June 17th, 2009 7:17 PM

ZOMG!
http://i44.tinypic.com/10ni2pi.png

Haza June 17th, 2009 9:12 PM

DO you guys think that Pikachu & Raichu will also have notched ears?

Pokestick, good times. June 18th, 2009 12:53 AM

"vents": If u ask me, they're simply an odd looking fence...
Twilight Darkrai... one word... ZOMG!!!!

Haza June 18th, 2009 12:56 AM

Never knew what the "Z" in "ZOMG" was supposed to mean and I still dont

Anyway, why would a fence just have 3 parts? Why would three lamps light the same damn spot?

Pokestick, good times. June 18th, 2009 1:10 AM

To all of those questions of yours... I... I don't know...
I mean... Why would a Town only have two houses... What would team Magma really win in emptying the world of it's water... Why are Nidorina and Nidoqueen placed in "non-breedable"... Why do you want your Pokémon to follow you... Why is Soul so ugly... Only Nintendo knows...

EDIT: hey, about the lamp theory... anyone seen the Ecruteak city art... on the pic, there are some places in the city where there are like four lightpoles right next to each other... Isn't that the same thing... And come on... you can easily see that those are lamps...

Haza June 18th, 2009 1:21 AM

If the dame "bule things" are there, they are there for a reason saying how they are not originally there. A lamp or fence serves no major purpose. Its obvious that they are a variety of those that were in Sinnoh, but being different regions they are destined to have different designs.

Mitchman June 18th, 2009 1:26 AM

We have seen many routes towns and cities so I wanna say no those are just random lights.

Haza June 18th, 2009 1:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Todoroki Is (Post 4758496)
We have seen many routes towns and cities so I wanna say no those are just random lights.

The vents wouldnt just be in one town. And if those are lights they are lousy because they light nothing.

Mitchman June 18th, 2009 1:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ℍ a z a (Post 4758498)
The vents wouldnt just be in one town. And if those are lights they are lousy because they light nothing.

At night time they could light the town a bit. If you haven't seen a lot of towns and cities now have lights or something. These would be it for newbark and that is it. I doubt the underground truly would be in.

Haza June 18th, 2009 1:33 AM

Unless there are secret bases on the surface, Im sure the Underground is returning.

Mitchman June 18th, 2009 1:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ℍ a z a (Post 4758506)
Unless there are secret bases on the surface, Im sure the Underground is returning.

Yes surely the best thing to do is be sure of something that makes no sense as we can clearly see no other vents. And we have a secret base. Your room.

Haza June 18th, 2009 1:41 AM

Well we havent seen much so you cant say there are no more. They look too much like those in Sinnoh to be ignored. This is why I am so sure.

tommzy2 June 18th, 2009 1:47 AM

Pal Park In HG/SS
 
OK first of all many of you people are thinking that little part on the map right next to Cianwood city is Either a Battle frontier,Battle island or a Pal Park.

Well one thing i know is its highly unlikely that it's gonna be a pal park now listen here.
Nintendo have realesed the DSi which has a camera, sd slot and NO GBA SLOT.
The reason for that is Nintendo wants to forget about GBA and any other DS games that include the function of the GBA SLOT therefore the future Pokemon games will not use that function. It's highly unlikely that the little area right next to Cianwood city is gonna be a Pal Park. Another thing im thinking about, is this game gonna be Compatible with the DSi camera because that would be cool maybe u might be able to get ur trainer card fixed with a picture of yourself or maybe when u defeat the elie four u might get an option that may allow u to take a picture with all your pokemon im not sure about that but that would make the game a bit better.

Well more about the Pal Park
That area on the map does look like the Pal Park with the different area's and terrains but as i said before its highly unlikely that it is cause Nintendo's trying to get rid of the GBA function with there games so then u wont be able to Migrate pokemon and catch them in the Pal Park.

Another thing, Remember that place in Viridian City where there was that little battle place where u verse a guy named cal or something and he has a lvl 50 meganium lvl 50 feraligatr and a lvl 50 thyphlosion and if u battle'd a friend u get his pokemon data and you can battle his pokemon and get xp for it that would be cool if they put that back in HG/SS it would be a good way to train ur pokemon and a good way to train for your next battle against your friends. That's all Cya Later.

bobandbill June 18th, 2009 2:02 AM

Merged the thread speculating on whether Pal Park would be in or not (amongst other things) here - Speculation thread after all.

I wouldn't really be too quick to discount it myself, personally - although there is the DSi and all without the GBA slot function, don't go about forgetting the DS and DS Lite as well - which MANY people have, DSi or not. It would be all that useless an option for them to implement it, really - I don't think anything near the majority of people playing HG/SS will only have a DSi, given how much longer, and how many more units the DS/DS Lite has sold. I'd say there's a chance either way - for it to be in, or not, simply.

Trying to guess what sections are what in the map so far isn't something I'd suggest to do as well - who knows, maybe a different Pal Park will occur? Maybe it'd be in Kanto (after all, it was a post-Elite Four thing...). And maybe a new option altogether would be done - maybe, for instance, something similar to the Time Machine in GSC (Bill was working on it, after all).

I also kinda doubt seeing much of a DSi camera function incorporated especially - it might though, but I'm not too sure on that. It'd be a pretty 'meh' thing though in my mind, as I don't really care for such things - but that's just me. =/

It'd be nice if the Trainer House came back - it'd then be somewhat similar to the Secret Bases, in that you could re-battle your friend's Pokemon team over and over again. I quite enjoyed that.

Zeph. June 18th, 2009 2:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ℍ a z a (Post 4758516)
Well we havent seen much so you cant say there are no more. They look too much like those in Sinnoh to be ignored. This is why I am so sure.

But we haven't seen much to asume that there is going to be an underground either.

Here's my argument: coro-coro has unveiled information of being able to catch Kyogre, Groudon and Rayquaza in HG&SS. You think they would have announced something like an underground before something that big.

Also, regarding the 'vents/lamps': it's outside a LAB, so they may be generators or cylinders of some sort (seeing as places like labs would require certain amounts of power to run?)

Team Rocket's Raichu June 18th, 2009 7:08 AM

Why would there be an underground if you could decorate your room like in the originals?
Why would there be a Pal Park if you could use the Time Machine like in the originals?
What other reason would Bill have to come to Johto?

Also to all the People who thinks that Kanto won't be included it was proven it would be in when it was in the originals!

Offtopic: Maybe this section (where the threads for HG/SS is) should be moderated. There is many moved and closed threads.

Artemis June 18th, 2009 8:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pokemon0987654321 (Post 4759087)
Why would there be an underground if you could decorate your room like in the originals?
Why would there be a Pal Park if you could use the Time Machine like in the originals?
What other reason would Bill have to come to Johto?

Also to all the People who thinks that Kanto won't be included it was proven it would be in when it was in the originals!

Offtopic: Maybe this section (where the threads for HG/SS is) should be moderated. There is many moved and closed threads.

Okay, just because we may have the option to decorate our rooms, doesn't necessarily mean that we do not need an Underground or secret base hidden in a forested tree or indented mountain. However, with little evidence of proof for an Underground to be included besides three similar blue cylinders it is hard to assume. It hasn't been sited anywhere else and the best thing to do other than speculate about it would simply be to wait for further information. We still have a few months before the Japanese release, so there is still time for a lot more information to be revealed.

The time machine is not noted to be in the remakes as yet, because nothing has been said about it. Plus, there isn't much of a time difference between the 4th generation games as the Sinnoh line and Johto line run together. So, a Pal Park can still be utilized for the game for those who do not have a DSi. Not to mention this system is still a new item and not everyone has it as yet. So, before saying it may not be in it you really have to look at things from a different perspective. Such as, the possibility of Kanto making a return and the areas that can be altered there. Not to forget the clouded area where the original Battle Tower was located as well. So, there are different options and opinions on this idea. I wouldn't say it isn't needed and I wouldn't say it isn't there, because we still have to reach into more of a depth in details for Johto itself.

Kanto has partially proven to be included. We have a mention of the original FRLG storyline from three years ago in the game. We also have the sightings of the Magnet Train leading east to Kanto. There is also the confirmation of seeing Route 22 on the map as well. If you piece it together you can conclude that we may have Kanto back once more, however it wasn't officially spoken of as yet.

blueblur155 June 18th, 2009 8:04 AM

Do we know the release date for this game outside of japan yet?

to the mod(s): im sorry if this is in the wrong place, but i didn't know where else to ask this.

Melodyfree June 18th, 2009 8:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueblur155 (Post 4759254)
Do we know the release date for this game outside of japan yet?

We don't even know about the release date IN Japan, other than September '09.
I'd wait until at least December before considering international releases.

Artemis June 18th, 2009 9:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melodyfree (Post 4759454)
We don't even know about the release date IN Japan, other than September '09.
I'd wait until at least December before considering international releases.

Actually, it is not technically confirmed that the release for Japan will be specifically in September. As for all we know, it is Fall of 2009. It is specualted to be released on the 19th of September, and it is speculated that it may be released on 10 Year Anniversary date. So for now, all we know is it will be released on Fall of 2009, because we do not know anything specific other than that. December is a pretty good month to estimate for any news on the international release for the US, as it was about the same time we got word on Platinum for the US as well. If not, then we may know of it either a little earlier or a little later. For the American release of the games though, it is speculated that it could be released from anytime during Late February to April, but is still unsure of [as this is based on speculation and estimation]. Of course, a few months after the US release is when we should be expecting the EU versions to be distributed as well as for other countries too.

Zeph. June 18th, 2009 10:05 AM

I hate long waits :P

I'm actually really looking forward to the new feature which lets any of the 493 pokemon you have follow you around. I can just imagine it: cycling along with a Dialga trodding behind XD


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