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ashketchumandpikachufan May 10th, 2009 12:00 PM

One new legendary?
 
You know how they added one legendary to firered and leafgreen (deoxys) who thinks they should add a legendary to these games????
P.S i hope its mewthree

Taichi May 10th, 2009 12:03 PM

It's Manaphy. I called it!!

The snorlax master May 10th, 2009 12:04 PM

I agree that they should add more legendary like maybe a Mewtwo or the legendary birds.

JP May 10th, 2009 12:05 PM

I don't know about a brand new legendary, but a "newish" one I can see being in this is Shaymin. Especially after that reference from Oak about that rock being in one of these regions.

OokamiShipper May 10th, 2009 12:05 PM

I think Celebi already has it covered. ^^;

BHwolfgang May 10th, 2009 12:05 PM

Nonsense. The mascot is Lugia and Ho-Oh.

They only added Deoxys because of it's movie.

Well, even if it's too early to tell, I'm praying that they won't do this. We don't need another random Legendary.

AJ™ May 10th, 2009 12:05 PM

Rofl, mewthree.

If they were going to add a legendary, I suppose it'd be Celebi, as it wasn't there earlier.

If you're talking about an entirely new, never before seen legend. I doubt it, highly.

Omega Saikon May 10th, 2009 12:06 PM

My guess, Phione or Shaymin.

Alexithymia~ May 10th, 2009 12:10 PM

Mewthree sounds a little far fetched...
Maybe they'll just add one of the existing 4th Gen.
It would add an extra story to the game, I guess.

jigglyppuff8 May 10th, 2009 12:16 PM

Actually, Deoxys was in the game's coding for Ruby and Sapphire. It just had no legitimate way to be obtained other than being traded through other games that received the event.
Likely, an entirely new Pokemon is not going to be added. Besides, Celebi was the "new legendary" added in Crystal during Gen II (in Japan anyway). Also, adding an entirely new Pokemon would cause major compatibility issues with the other Gen IV games.

Sonic on the Rocks May 10th, 2009 12:16 PM

If they were putting in one not available in Johto before, it'd probably be Shaymin.

Lady Gaga May 10th, 2009 12:25 PM

Ya, probably Shaymin or Mewtwo!

Jr. Berry Master May 10th, 2009 12:36 PM

I'm thinking it'll be Celebi. Celebi is from 2nd Generation, but was only obtainable at an event.

I know it's 3rd Generation, but I'd like to see Jirachi

CollosalPokemon May 10th, 2009 12:36 PM

Probably Shaymin of Gen IV, because Johto is a green region, not too cold or to rugged. A new Legendary is too farfetched for now and it would be stupid to add another legendary right now, but it would not cause incompatibility with D/P/Pl because they could ban that legendary from wifi & the top of the Pokemon Center like they did with G/S/C. Gold, Silver, and Crystal were compatible with G/R/B/Y and yet Johto contained 100 MORE Pokemon than Kanto in G/R/B/Y.

Oh, and probably Celebi if Gen 2, as it is the Final Pokemon of Johto and it is an event Pokemon.

Condulimassos May 10th, 2009 12:38 PM

It would be Shaymin for sure because of the counterpart of the Sinnoh White stone.
Mewtwo could also be a possibility in cause Cerulean cave gets restored.
The third option would probably be Celebi if they remade the GS ball event.
Mewthree?I lolled my head off.

Lightning Sage™ May 10th, 2009 12:43 PM

Mew three dosent sound relistic.. There would be to much problems with that. I think that if they were going to add a legendary for me it would have to be shaymin or mewtwo.

.inLOVE May 10th, 2009 1:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashketchumandpikachufan (Post 4629914)
P.S i hope its mewthree

Sorry to burst your bubble but Mewthree is a hack.

I think they might, possibly Giratina or something. But who knows.

Zero Avenged May 10th, 2009 1:09 PM

Yeah I think that if they don't add shaymin they are going to add shaymin teasers

spike6958 May 10th, 2009 1:10 PM

i think we'll see Celebi and Mewtwo, i don't see a need for Shaymin due to D/P/P but Celebi and Mewtwo would be nice editions, but out of the two i would take Celebi over Mewtwo, or maybe Celebi in one and Mewtwo in the other...

slimjd008 May 10th, 2009 1:12 PM

agreee, would love to see a mewtwo

seeker May 10th, 2009 1:19 PM

It'll most likely be 2nd G because most other legendaries are already obtainable in events or not but i dunno if Celebi has its own event in any of the othe games so it'll probably be obtainable! if not Jirachi cause theres no eent for it either! when i say event i mean script event.

Glaceon_ May 10th, 2009 1:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OokamiShipper (Post 4629929)
I think Celebi already has it covered. ^^;

We can hope. I hope we can get Celebi from HG/SS, because I've always wanted to use one, but for lack of events, never had one to use... after all, they pretty much left the event for it in G/S/C untouched for the English versions, I believe... and I don't even think it was released outside of Japan, but then again, I never paid much attention to events prior to D/P/Pt... ^^;;

BeachBoy May 10th, 2009 1:22 PM

It'd be nice to see Mewtwo make a return to the dungeon, but I think / want Celebi to be the added legendary here. Since we didn't really get it last time. ;;

SilverLink May 10th, 2009 1:42 PM

Probably Celebi? Yah it could be tied to the story like Platinum did with Girantina. I can see it! Lugia or Ho-Oh is controlled by Team Rocket and destroys everything. And Celebi comes back to warn you.

Jαcκςση May 10th, 2009 2:33 PM

Nah, it's probably celebi.

Conan Edogawa May 10th, 2009 2:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpp8 (Post 4629959)
Actually, Deoxys was in the game's coding for Ruby and Sapphire. It just had no legitimate way to be obtained other than being traded through other games that received the event. Likely, an entirely new Pokemon is not going to be added. Besides, Celebi was the "new legendary" added in Crystal during Gen II (in Japan anyway). Also, adding an entirely new Pokemon would cause major compatibility issues with the other Gen IV games.

I agree If they added an entirely new pokemon then we would have a situation similar to the one between the metal games and the originals. And Deoxys wasn't new, people knew about it so if they followed that pattern it would be a 4th gen legendary like Shaymin.

Gymnotide May 10th, 2009 2:57 PM

It's gonna be Cyrus.

http://www.pokecommunity.com/showpost.php?p=4562090&postcount=18

Lt_Nite May 10th, 2009 3:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gymnotide (Post 4630320)

lmao, Well I think it'll be Shaymin, for the reference in D/P/Pl, Mewtwo because I have a feeling Cerulean Cave will be back for more things to do, and I think the legendary birds will be back too but with different locations maybe? Just my thoughts.

AceOfSpades May 10th, 2009 3:22 PM

Legit Mew in Kanto? Yes sirr. Lol.

AceOfSpades May 10th, 2009 3:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiroshi Sotomura (Post 4630389)
Personally I'd like to see it on Faraway Island.

It can stay there for all I care, I just don't want to have to wait for an event to get to Faraway Island.

Lynx1 May 10th, 2009 3:43 PM

The original games had 6 legendaries, and I think there's a good chance of Shaymin and even Mewtwo making an appearance in the remakes. There will not be any new ones introduced though.

And Mewtwo doesn't need an evolution.

Lady Gaga May 10th, 2009 3:53 PM

but we just got Skymin! now theres more Shaymin!?

no offense Shay, i love you so much, but youir getting overloaded with loving?

I just want mah Mewtwo and Celebi! Plz nothing else!!!

Zelda May 10th, 2009 4:15 PM

If you're talking about a brand new legendary, then no. Leave it for the 5th Generation to come.

Zackraa May 10th, 2009 5:12 PM

no there will be no "new" pokemon or legendaries in the games though adding a legendary from another region to round off the low amount in johto would be nice

Artemis May 10th, 2009 5:29 PM

My guess would either be Celebi if not put in an event or a simple one from the 4th or 3rd Gen. Mewtwo is a possibility as well xD

Percy Thrillington May 10th, 2009 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashketchumandpikachufan (Post 4629914)
You know how they added one legendary to firered and leafgreen (deoxys) who thinks they should add a legendary to these games????
P.S i hope its mewthree

There may be a small sub-plot involving a GS Ball and Celebi, but apart from that I very much doubt a new Legendary will jump into the remakes. And there's probably no chance of a Celebi side-quest happening too, so... yeah.

AJ™ May 10th, 2009 5:38 PM

Perhaps a legitimate event of Mew will be available...
Maybe to that lost island that was never accessible in RSE?

KhaosKnight May 10th, 2009 5:55 PM

I think it will Celebi, with the case of Deoxys, Deoxys was already in the R/S pokemon data so it would make sense to me that they would add a pokemon that was in the previous versions that wasnt as easy to obtain.

Just my two cents.

jAvAcOlA May 10th, 2009 6:03 PM

If they put Mew in the game...it has to involve the SS Anne truck.

elratauru May 10th, 2009 6:10 PM

I would like them to put celebi, well, celebi was already in g/s/c, but I would like if they put the gs ball item again xP...

JollyRoger25 May 10th, 2009 6:39 PM

Celebi, of course, I mean, its a remake of a Gen II game, and Celebi is one of the hardest pokemon to obtain in America, soo it would make sence for them to add like a Island, or a forest where you can go to obtain Celebi. Mabey, they'll add a forest just above the Johto Battle Tower, like in the movie to get Celebi, but for sure if they do add one, its going to be Celebi, and this would have been alot more fun if it was a Poll..

True Reign May 10th, 2009 6:47 PM

Mewthree? What have you been on?

If I had to take a wild guess at this, I would say either Celebi or Jirachi. However, it'll be unlikely that they'll even add more legendaries to the game.

Zackraa May 10th, 2009 9:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elratauru (Post 4630907)
I would like them to put celebi, well, celebi was already in g/s/c, but I would like if they put the gs ball item again xP...

sadly that event was japan only :(

like every single legitimate (legitimate as in you are able to catch it in game) pokemon event... so far if they dont do darkrai and shaymin events at some point this year pokemon fans will be ticked off that is.. if they arent too busy staring at the pre-realease GSDS picture >.<

I hate having to use cheating devices just to be able to get a pokemon that already exists in my game before they had excuses as to why the rest of the world couldn't get them events being to hard to pull together or maybe it would cost too much events such as the old sea chart and the other islands now with the DS and wifi they have no real excuses for it considering it requires what? the push of a button? =\

mainly I'm saying if they do include celebi as an event pokemon I hope they will hold the event outside of japan because I have yet to see that done besides the event pokemon like TRU shaymin and the movie events give away pokemon too many to list off but you understand what I mean no one outside of japan can catch them without "tweaking" or hacking I would like to get celebi in ilex forest :(

sorry for the slight rant ^^;; I just want a legit way to catch event legendaries so that they will officially be mine with the whole OT (insert your username here)

Ashmi May 10th, 2009 9:56 PM

I hope they put Celebi in.

lolwut May 10th, 2009 10:06 PM

i would love jirachi seeing as how its one of my favourite pokemon

Lukar May 10th, 2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zackraa (Post 4631359)
sadly that event was japan only :(

like every single legitimate (legitimate as in you are able to catch it in game) pokemon event... so far if they dont do darkrai and shaymin events at some point this year pokemon fans will be ticked off that is.. if they arent too busy staring at the pre-realease GSDS picture >.<

I hate having to use cheating devices just to be able to get a pokemon that already exists in my game before they had excuses as to why the rest of the world couldn't get them events being to hard to pull together or maybe it would cost too much events such as the old sea chart and the other islands now with the DS and wifi they have no real excuses for it considering it requires what? the push of a button? =\

mainly I'm saying if they do include celebi as an event pokemon I hope they will hold the event outside of japan because I have yet to see that done besides the event pokemon like TRU shaymin and the movie events give away pokemon too many to list off but you understand what I mean no one outside of japan can catch them without "tweaking" or hacking I would like to get celebi in ilex forest :(

sorry for the slight rant ^^;; I just want a legit way to catch event legendaries so that they will officially be mine with the whole OT (insert your username here)

Hopefully, in the next generation of Pokemon games, they'll have all of the new Pokemon available without having to use events (But you still have to trade between versions)- however, for the Pokemon that are harder to obtain, they'll have events to get them if you don't want to go through all the hard work.

xxChazxx May 11th, 2009 4:00 PM

If they're asking for a NEW legendary, Celebi would be out. Because he was catchable in Crystal, so his inclusion would be mandatory if they mean to make them true remakes of the series.

Shaymin would be the logical guess. As said before, Johto is a green region and there is to be another white rock in the Kanto region. All signs point to Shaymin.

PS:
Mewthree? What were you thinking?

bamak93 May 11th, 2009 4:02 PM

shaymin is our only real guess at a non-Johto legend.

counterpart rock in Kanto, remember?

Virtual Chatot May 11th, 2009 4:03 PM

Celebi is the only thing on my mind :D

Astinus May 11th, 2009 4:16 PM

If a legendary would be put into the game, it would most likely be Celebi. That one is the only one catchable in Crystal (Japan) and given out by event (America). It's a difficult Pokemon to capture, plus it fits into the game (being a G/S/C remake), so I'm leaning towards Celebi as the event Pokemon.

I'm not quite seeing why Shaymin would be put into a remake of Generation II. o_O Besides, Shaymin was "recently" given away.

Quote:

I hope they will hold the event outside of japan
There was an event once where the Pokemon was given away in TRUs and then over Wi-Fi in America. I remember reading about it.

bamak93 May 11th, 2009 4:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lt_Nite (Post 4630330)
lmao, Well I think it'll be Shaymin, for the reference in D/P/Pl, Mewtwo because I have a feeling Cerulean Cave will be back for more things to do, and I think the legendary birds will be back too but with different locations maybe? Just my thoughts.

Canonically, Mewtwo and the birds CAN'T exist in kanto in that timeframe. The birds are frolicking around Sinnoh and Cerulean cave caved in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AceOfSpades (Post 4630382)
Legit Mew in Kanto? Yes sirr. Lol.

Sevii+Mystery Gift+???+PROFIT=MEW

GFA May 11th, 2009 4:41 PM

You guys posting already existing Pokemon, yeah, that's not a new legendary... Plus wasn't Deoxys introduced in Emerald? Correct me if I'm wrong, 'cause I very well may be.

As for all of you saying Celebi will be introduced into the plot? I say no. Look at FrLg, did they change the plot? Not really.

Mr. bell May 11th, 2009 4:54 PM

I hope that we'll able to catch more legendaries. It make sense as there aren't many legendaries in the II generation, as opposed to the many many legendaries from generation IV

Azonic May 11th, 2009 5:11 PM

Definitely want to see Celebi. We didn't get to see it in GSC really.

Talesplayer July 29th, 2009 3:36 PM

Kyogre and Groudon are already in it, idk if this counts since itsa an event but you can get Giratina, Dialga, or Palkia from the arceus event. so i think they hav legendaries covered. though i would love to see mewtwo available.

Greene1516 July 29th, 2009 3:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashketchumandpikachufan (Post 4629914)
You know how they added one legendary to firered and leafgreen (deoxys) who thinks they should add a legendary to these games????
P.S i hope its mewthree

Yea because they are really going to add in a Pokemon that isn't actually real (it's only from a hacked game).

Haza July 29th, 2009 3:42 PM

You can only really expect to see a new form or two since it seems to be a trend.

xxChazxx July 29th, 2009 3:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ℍ a z a (Post 4918701)
You can only really expect to see a new form or two since it seems to be a trend.


Would the two Pichu's count? People seem to have forgotten them

Haza July 29th, 2009 3:55 PM

Shiny Pichu is not special but Gizamimi may be considered one.

Falcon Wing July 29th, 2009 3:58 PM

I just hope we get a new form.

ElementalKrack July 29th, 2009 6:25 PM

My honest guess, Celebi. In the second generation games (Gold, Silver and Crystal), they featured Celebi, and a GS ball which is... hard to obtain.
Well, Celebi is its farmost and honest choice to this.

StillPlayPokemon July 29th, 2009 7:07 PM

Unless your talking something like Celebi which isn't actually new, I can't see why you would want one. Didn't you get enough with the Legendary overkill in DPPt. Honestly its kinda gotten out of hand. In RBY there weren't even enough to fill an entire team. Now we've got enough for multiple teams.
RBY had 5 (1 event)
GSC had 6 (1 event) and you could transfer the others
RSE had 10 (1 event, 1 bonus from gcn disk) plus transfers from FRLG and the events for GSC pokemon
DPPt had too many to count

Bigdog July 29th, 2009 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The snorlax master (Post 4629925)
I agree that they should add more legendary like maybe a Mewtwo or the legendary birds.

Here's the list of legends available in other gmaes besides the ones exclusive to their region:

Platinum-- Roaming Legendary Birds/ Regis

FR/LG---GS Birds/Cats.

HG/SS----Celebi/Hoenn Legends/acquire one of D/P/Pt legends with Aruceus event at Level one/Maybe Mewtwo/Mew?

There's no reason for Mewtwo to be added ,as he can just be brought over from the GBA, but who knows?

skeddles July 29th, 2009 7:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StillPlayPokemon (Post 4919645)
Unless your talking something like Celebi which isn't actually new, I can't see why you would want one. Didn't you get enough with the Legendary overkill in DPPt. Honestly its kinda gotten out of hand. In RBY there weren't even enough to fill an entire team. Now we've got enough for multiple teams.
RBY had 5 (1 event)
GSC had 6 (1 event) and you could transfer the others
RSE had 10 (1 event, 1 bonus from gcn disk) plus transfers from FRLG and the events for GSC pokemon
DPPt had too many to count

I agree, there are way too many legendaries. How many damn legends are there?!

They make them because people over-react at their coolness and specialness, and they seem more exciting. And if there's at least one legendary you like, they assume you'll buy the game for it. It's the same reason the cards are getting stronger and stronger. To make money. And it drives me crazy. Why can't they just make the games get better and better? Which they haven't in my opinion, but I won't get into that now.

Luck July 29th, 2009 7:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StillPlayPokemon (Post 4919645)
Unless your talking something like Celebi which isn't actually new, I can't see why you would want one. Didn't you get enough with the Legendary overkill in DPPt. Honestly its kinda gotten out of hand. In RBY there weren't even enough to fill an entire team. Now we've got enough for multiple teams.
RBY had 5 (1 event)
GSC had 6 (1 event) and you could transfer the others
RSE had 10 (1 event, 1 bonus from gcn disk) plus transfers from FRLG and the events for GSC pokemon
DPPt had too many to count

14=too many to count?
That is including the pseudo-legendaries manaphy and phione, mind you.

Anyways, the only Pokemon I want to be in there is mewtwo. If that happens, they might revive the cerulean cave, and some other places if they do that(did people really like a butchered kanto?) That is the only thing I want, because I don't care much for the others in johto.

GymLeaderSilver July 29th, 2009 7:53 PM

I'll tell you what Pokemon they should add. It is the best option they can do. NO EXTRA LEGENDARIES. They will repeat the mistake they made in 4th gen, overflooding it with legendaries, eventually making it unclear which is the main mascot of the games when there's over 10+ legendaries to get after the national dex. So, KEEP THE SPOTLIGHT ON LUGIA AND HO-OH, with Celebi thrown in too but that's it.

Mattysaurus July 29th, 2009 8:18 PM

I'm thinking Celebi or Mew, because they're hard to find. :(

Åzurε July 29th, 2009 8:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GymLeaderSilver (Post 4919781)
I'll tell you what Pokemon they should add. It is the best option they can do. NO EXTRA LEGENDARIES. They will repeat the mistake they made in 4th gen, overflooding it with legendaries, eventually making it unclear which is the main mascot of the games when there's over 10+ legendaries to get after the national dex. So, KEEP THE SPOTLIGHT ON LUGIA AND HO-OH, with Celebi thrown in too but that's it.

Congratulations, you have just expressed the generalized opinion of every other fan who has become entirely vehement over the staggering amount of legendary Pokemon introduced in the Fourth Generation. Perhaps with a bit of lack of understanding what the topic is about.

But, yeah, Johto legends, Celebi, and no more than like 2 more than what's already announced. Mew would be nice.

PowerFreak09 July 29th, 2009 8:29 PM

Mewtwo, along with latios and latias, were confirmed to be in the game a few weeks ago, I thought.
At least that's what I've seen/read on YouTube/serebii respectively.

Haza July 29th, 2009 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerFreak09 (Post 4919915)
Mewtwo, along with latios and latias, were confirmed to be in the game a few weeks ago, I thought.
At least that's what I've seen/read on YouTube/serebii respectively.

That is unconfirmed is in rumor mode currently.

bobandbill July 30th, 2009 12:16 AM

Thread bumpage? We can't have that!

Thread is rather outdated in the majority of posts here, so there's not much point to keep this here, really. There's already threads on legendary Pokemon as well - like the Lugia and Ho-oh thread (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=178608), and the RSE legendary thread (http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=185271), and others. Thread closed.


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