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jmadude May 11th, 2009 5:18 AM

The TMs of Heart Gold and Soul Silver
 
Since Pokemon Gold and Silver had completely different TMs, does anyone think they will change the TMs so far or just add them to the list?

PatJamma May 11th, 2009 5:43 AM

I don't know but zap cannon better be a TM *remerbers "Snorlax used Zap cannon!"*

Kokuo May 11th, 2009 5:46 AM

They'll probably have the same TM's as DPPt since FRLG had the same TM's as RSE.

ToraSushii May 11th, 2009 6:04 AM

I hope so! Dynamicpunch is like, my favorite punch in Pokemon.

Though, I highly doubt they would keep it.

Lunar Umbreon May 11th, 2009 6:05 AM

They'll keep D/P/Pt TMs, but have move tutors for moves like Zap Cannon and Dynamicpunch. I hope that you can get multiple versions of all the TMs this time, as well.

bobandbill May 11th, 2009 6:06 AM

Interesting question - I can see it going either way, actually - although on second thoughts...maybe not. FR/LG went with the same TM list as RSE's in the end, possibly I guess due to the fact that one can trade TMs. If you tried to trade a TM that wasn't in D/P/Pt... well, I doubt that's easily possible. One could always disable trading of TMs, but that I don't see happening - TMs after all are normally tradeable items.

So based on that, I think the TMs stand to be the same as D/P/Pt's - seems to be a necessary outcome. The HMs though could change, considering you can't trade those (meaning don't expect Defog and what-not over GSC's Flash or say, Whirlpool), and I suppose one way they could get around the fact TMs would probably have to be the same is via good old move tutors. (I believe Crystal started it, in fact, in the form of a man on certain days (Wednesdays, for one), teaching Ice Beam/Flamethrower/Thunderbolt by the Goldenrod Game Corner - if he stays though I thing he'd be teaching different moves this time around). Hopefully ones that teach the move more than once this time too. (If a similar thing as Platinum had it with the moves tradable for Shards happens, I'll be ok with it, certainly).

JeTz May 11th, 2009 6:09 AM

I hope the TM of Zap Cannon was there as well!

Zap Cannon is cool! As well as Snorlax is using it! Epic!

Penumbra May 11th, 2009 6:17 AM

Well.
I was about to rampage here, shouting out
"WASTE THREAD!" parading around, but someone's
beat me to it (and put it in an unfamiliar friendly
tone :()

Anyway, FR/LG TMs = R/S/E TMs.
Also, the tradable incompatibility is in place.

This is obviously a big "NONO!" but I do hope they
allow move tutors (Like the ones in Emerald AND
Platinum!). The moves were sick. I remember buying
Thunder/Ice/Fire Punch from the Dept store.
You could either a) Destroy the Elite four w/
Thunder Punch 'phlosion b) Destroy the Elite Four w/
Ice Punch 'Gatr

Good times.. But seriously now. I think there should be
one move tutor to have all the Punches, one with
all the Kicks, and one with other. The Punches
(Thunder/Fire/Ice/Mega/Dynamic/Mach) tutor will be in
the underground where the haircutters are, in Goldenrod,
the kicks (Blaze/Mega/Jump/Rolling/HiJump) could be
Cianwood, the Other (Zap Cannon/DPPt Moves/Forgotten
Johto TMs) could be in Kanto somewhere..



-Leaf May 11th, 2009 6:20 AM

Just add some TMs. don't mess up with this plz!

bobandbill May 11th, 2009 6:25 AM

Quote:

Well.
I was about to rampage here, shouting out
"WASTE THREAD!" parading around, but someone's
beat me to it (and put it in an unfamiliar friendly
tone )
Um...sorry then? =P But yeah, as said before - new TMS won't be a-happening unless they kill off the ability to trade TMs between HG/SS and every and any other game, and this I find unlikely.

At any rate, I like the ideas you had on the move tutors there and what they have. IIRC though, there be Punch move tutors in Platinum already though. But heck, why not have another one, as a throw-back to GSC's Punch TMs? XD

Dunsparce May 11th, 2009 6:45 AM

Why do threads like this even exist?

Like Fire Red and Leaf Green, there will most likely be move tutors teaching moves that were TMs in originals.

Here are the 2nd Gen TM moves Unavailable in 4th Gen:

TM01 Dynamic Punch*
TM02 Headbutt
TM03 Curse
TM07 Zap Cannon
TM12 Sweet Scent
TM24 DragonBreath
TM40 Harden
TM43 Detect
TM50 Nightmare**
*Available in Emerald as a Move Tutor
**Available in XD as a Move Tutor

Probably like how Emerald had all the FR/LG Tutor Moves, plus new ones, HG/SS will most likely do the same.

These are 3rd Gen Move Tutors(That wer once RGBY TMs) I'd like to see make a return:
TM08 Body Slam
TM10 Double-Edge
TM18 Counter
TM19 Seismic Toss
TM31 Mimic
TM35 Metronome
TM36 Selfdestruct*
TM41 Softboiled
TM43 Sky Attack*
*Found only in Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness

These are some RGBY TMs I'd like to see tutors for the first time:
TM04 Whirlwind -More Phazing
TM16 Pay Day - Very fun move
TM49 Tri Attack - A Reliable Special STAB for Normal Types(Most of them got this move in RGBY via TM)

Artemis May 11th, 2009 8:35 AM

Most likely they'll revamp the TMs to match those of DPPt...They might even add in Tutors for access to some special moves as well.

World King May 11th, 2009 9:11 AM

The most probable thing they'll do is add some moves we had as TMs in the Original GS pair turned into Move Tutor moves for HGSS. And just like FRLG, 1 or 2 DPPt HMs will be turned into regular moves (Dive, anyone?)

You know what's more epìc than a Zap-Cannoning Snorlax? A Cursing Suicune. O_O

Zelda May 11th, 2009 9:53 AM

I don't think they would make any new TM's for the game. After all, this is only a remake not a new generation.

redsaber5859 June 26th, 2010 9:52 AM

LOL is this the oldest thread or what?!?!? Ya everybody knows that they use the ones in dppt! Lololol

Guy June 26th, 2010 1:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsaber5859 (Post 5914081)
LOL is this the oldest thread or what?!?!? Ya everybody knows that they use the ones in dppt! Lololol

This is so sad. Did you purposely revive a thread over a year old knowing it was old or against the rules? D: You know what? Don't answer that. Please, do not revive threads over a month old since its last post date.

...And just throwing it out there for you, HG/SS does not have the exact same HM line up as DPPt. HG/SS has Whirpool return as HM05 rather than having Defog. That said, I don't think there's any need in keeping such an old thread open any longer.

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